The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:52 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:46 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:40 pm 112 - suspect.
Evenstar- suspect
Pawn - suspect

No way in hell I'm voting Hyena today.
what tf have I done to be suspect?

I was the best poster in the other dream level 3 days running.
What the fuck no you weren't. Not even close. Several times you didn't even post inside of a 12 hour window leading into end of day! Everyone was terrible on that level except Michelle who at least tried. Why are you lying?
Why are you so serious? Why are you looking for that gotcha? Why did you think there were no scum in the other dream?
So I am being serious now? I thought your scum read was predicated on me not being serious?

What gotcha? I see you lying, I call you out.

I thought it was possibly all town because of the presence of no lynch as an option which I explained and you saw. Why ask a question you know the answer to?

You ignored my entire point and my question to ask me this asinine bullshit. You're caught, flailing, scum. Self vote.

ok well idk

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:49 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:46 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:43 pm

You just haven't been taking seriously your duty to solve the game. You've been taking sly shots at me since jump street and there is no real impetus for it because it's all based on nothing.
I feel the same way about you right now. Funny stuff.
Such lazy bs.
case in point
What case in point?

You are so absolutely full of shit it's unreal.

no

I am going through a very difficult time and am trying my best

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:59 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:49 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:46 pm

Such lazy bs.
case in point
What case in point?

You are so absolutely full of shit it's unreal.
no

I am going through a very difficult time and am trying my best
I am sorry to hear that but with all due respect and as it pertains to the game you seem to do this kinda thing a lot and while I don't doubt you really are having a tough time it makes questioning you and casing you very difficult and feels like some unfair trap card you use to justify scummy behaviour.

E.g. I suspected you in wc1 and you did something similar and I pretty much felt unable to case you without feeling like I was personally attacking you or attacking your moral fibre.

I dunno what you wanna do with that info but there it is.

I don't even think I'm being scummy. My reads are genuine. I can't elaborate on them because I don't even know why I have them beyond gut. My memory is absolutely shot and I can't do anything but post in the present, I haven't slept in 2 days, and this is what I'm spending my time on:

I have been wolf exactly 1 time with you, and it was a high-stakes game. I do not lie about this level of distress outside of that tournament.

I do feel bad. Maybe I should sub out. But I'm legit town giving opinions on stuff and this whole chain started because you started calling me scum again after I thought I made some effortful posts in the other dream and i still don't get what changed your mind so quickly when it's somewhat reasonable that i not be posting for long stretches considering.

The best way to use me probably is to give me some sort of task or mission- ask me my opinion of someone else, for a detailed analysis of some post x or y, throw a ball and make me fetch, and then form a judgment on that. Idk.

You don't have to feel bad about pushing me. If you really have a sus on me, keep going. I can take it. I won't be angry. But it's probably most productive to just point me to something and let me free flow- but it's gonna have to be a two-way convo, us both throwing ideas out there and bouncing stuff over to each other about whatever's going on right now.

i don't mean to AtE but there's nothing else to do but be honest, having a tough time and not able to participate as well as i normally do. I will try, on for another hour then heading to sleep.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:00 am 112 please hit the spoiler next time I am phone posting ffs :/

Sorry. I didn't know it would embed.

no quarantine pls

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:04 am In spite of fear of being fooled again I'm just gonna locktown 112. I believe em.

112 I just had some weird galaxy brain POE abrupt synapse connection thing. If you're town that's good it just makes shit easier for me.

If you want homework I have a few players I'm anxious about having lacking reads on. juliets, Jack, LC, Hyena and TL. I'm gonna spend some time trying to solve these slots over the next day or two.

TL was the player I left my vote on D1. I probably did it for a reason? Lol

Hyena seemed agenda-y to me, particularly with the grouping of Eva and I earlier in the day, and I think they're forcing the attitude this time more so than letting it out naturally. Scum lean.

Juliets seems reasonable, I like their posts. Too reasonable? Haven't paid enough attention to know.

Jack I keep getting pings from- very strong/commandeering poster imo, but it feels somewhat like a mask to me. Could easily be town. More likely scum than juliets imo.

Who's LC?

112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:04 am In spite of fear of being fooled again I'm just gonna locktown 112. I believe em.

112 I just had some weird galaxy brain POE abrupt synapse connection thing. If you're town that's good it just makes shit easier for me.

If you want homework I have a few players I'm anxious about having lacking reads on. juliets, Jack, LC, Hyena and TL. I'm gonna spend some time trying to solve these slots over the next day or two.
TL was the player I left my vote on D1. I probably did it for a reason? Lol

Hyena seemed agenda-y to me, particularly with the grouping of Eva and I earlier in the day, and I think they're forcing the attitude this time more so than letting it out naturally. Scum lean.

Juliets seems reasonable, I like their posts. Too reasonable? Haven't paid enough attention to know.

Jack I keep getting pings from- very strong/commandeering poster imo, but it feels somewhat like a mask to me. Could easily be town. More likely scum than juliets imo.

Who's LC?

I'll commit to isoing them in the morning btw. Need sleep before i do it

Also- I'm probably way behind everyone- but the eva/MR/Sprityo thing is important to solve.

I've played 100s of games with MR and do not like him here, honestly

112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:16 am Also- I'm probably way behind everyone- but the eva/MR/Sprityo thing is important to solve.

I've played 100s of games with MR and do not like him here, honestly

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention] - why is Eva scum above Sprityo exactly?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:19 am
112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:16 am Also- I'm probably way behind everyone- but the eva/MR/Sprityo thing is important to solve.

I've played 100s of games with MR and do not like him here, honestly
Idk from all I've heard he definitely sounds the most likely townie of that trio lol.

What gives me serious pause on what I just said is his genuine excitement when he announced he'd been on a journey. Seemed like towny individuality expressing if u get my rhythm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:19 am
112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:16 am Also- I'm probably way behind everyone- but the eva/MR/Sprityo thing is important to solve.

I've played 100s of games with MR and do not like him here, honestly
Elephant got mislynched Vanity and you ignore him? Please let me know your oppinion on him.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:27 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:19 am
112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:16 am Also- I'm probably way behind everyone- but the eva/MR/Sprityo thing is important to solve.

I've played 100s of games with MR and do not like him here, honestly
Elephant got mislynched Vanity and you ignore him? Please let me know your oppinion on him.

I haven't read any posts from him since I left his environs with a hard scum lean on him d1.

So i guess nothing should have changed there. We can lynch him.

Wasn't aware he mld vanity

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:04 am Well that was a trip (quite literally I presume). Cool stuff.

No drugs involved, believe it or not

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:40 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:11 am That's not what salad is you pleb
I know but it's something close to it and I thought it was an odd/random collection of names.
It's the players I feel least knowledgeable on. It shouldn't have any meaning to you. We have had different game experiences.

Does town nute normally attack everyone for everything?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:45 am
112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:40 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:11 am That's not what salad is you pleb
I know but it's something close to it and I thought it was an odd/random collection of names.
It's the players I feel least knowledgeable on. It shouldn't have any meaning to you. We have had different game experiences.
Does town nute normally attack everyone for everything?
How on earth did you (and michelle) see that as an attack?

I teased him a bit with "weird salad but ok" but I was just trying to figure out how he settled on those names bc they seemed weird to me. Not an attack at all. And most of them are from my group which makes sense now that I think about it.

You seem defensive. I was simply asking about your meta before even rendering judgment, and you still find something to criticize there?

i think MR is town now fwiw- going back and forth so there's not much to take here, but i've noticed some isolated incidents of emotion/surprise in his posts that i just don't see him faking as scum.

i like nute here- trust her over eva/lld

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:47 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:45 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:44 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:41 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:30 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:27 pm
'Don't want it lynched, but want it dead.' Yeah that's a townie thought process.
You're a pain in the ass and will fill the day with chaosposting if I try to lynch you. Better to just call the vig on your ass.
Cheers.

But your reasoning is still completely anti-town.
No it's not.

It's the same reason I'm not giving Nutella a game's worth of information.

Mafia is not a game of arguments solely it's a game of decisions and of emotional maintenance. No one wants to fucking deal with 40 pages of you or Nutella shitting up this thread with the same 10 points over and over again and chaos posting into oblivion.

So ES is calling for you to be vigged instead of lynched because that way you don't get to spam the thread with impunity and drag your heels and make some random lurkfuck get lynched instead.

That's town logic. It's replicatable by scum, but it's not anti-town remotely.
Nah. Wrong.

Nice to see you paying attention now, though. Like, you're not, since you're just tunneling nutella and doing nothing else. But it's better than nothing.
Offer still on the table friend. Give me Nutella and I'll give you Evenstar tomorrow.

They arent BOTH town.

but I know which one is harder to lynch.
I mean, look, I have no idea what to think of nutella. Half a dozen different posts pinged me on my ongoing re-read of what I missed. But half a dozen posts make me think they are never scum.

So I'm still very open to scum!Nutella, but probably not today.

I get this and it's where I'm at, although I put more weight into the 'never scum' set of posts than the others that might be sketchy. Likely town.

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:42 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:29 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:22 pm @Lady LambdaDelta

Take a step back.

I know, it's infuriating. But the site meta here is just like this, and you're harming your own case now.
No. Don't start make snide comments about the Syndicaters. They are, like every community, full of some very lovely people and a few 'not everyone's cup of tea' types. Don't care what your alignment is, don't generalise in a petty way like that.
I like you a lot as a person.
I taught @112 everything they know.

Definitely. The Techno-Setian-Anarchistic philosophy is all MR.

Hey guys- in a fair headspace for playing after smoking up, so I'm gonna be big-time dedicated for the next while. I'm always as weird as I am, but sometimes it exaggerates under big stress. It's mostly real-life stuff that's concerning me and making my eccentricities flair up lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:43 pm I wanna thank Nutella and Mac for being so damn easy to read that I can sheep your reads on the players I haven’t thought about since we got put into different dreams.
Juliets and Michelle should thank them to.

This is now the towncore.

lmao

that's incredibly scummy lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:51 pm @Long Con
@Quin

Did ya’ll miss me? I haven’t seen you since I got back. Gimmie some #content.

Gimme some.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:50 pm I mean I for one am really enjoying it and think the hosts have done a great job.
I agree.

Yes- I really agree. Thanks for letting me participate. It's been a wild ride for me in real life, and it is nice to be kinda trotting along in this one lol.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] - I went off of your wagon because I figured I was tunnelling you for things that are probably just an odd town-meta considering the other long-time syndicaters are not as suspicious of you as I have been throughout the game. And I felt eva was essentially therefore the correct vote choice for me in the case that my MR read is accurate, which I am starting to cement to myself for now. So that's the explanation- Idk if it's suitable for it, but i swear is truth

suitable for you*

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:57 pm How scummy would it be if I vee hoted 112?

Asking for a friend.

Dickbutt.

ok- I'm just poking you because I haven't seen you in a bunch of days and have unanswered doubts because--this is my fault--i haven't been keeping up well.

sorry, it's how i scum-hunt, i think this is a towny post and i'm just going to iso you to keep myself busy.

yeah, jack, i am inclined to like you after an iso skim. we could settle our differences and towncore if you so want.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:51 pm @Long Con
@Quin

Did ya’ll miss me? I haven’t seen you since I got back. Gimmie some #content.
Soonish. I'll give you my catchup hot takes, still reading up. Epignosis - Evenstar took a turn when Epi decided she's not scum but is actually town, for the Four Reasons. I was seeing Ep as the Civ side of things there, but this turnaround could be a calculated pocketing ploy. LLD and Eva voting nutella is not that cool, nutella has looked very town over the days, and the timing of Eva's vote wasn't the best. 112 maybe sketchy. Michelle maybe sketchy.

This is a very reserved style of writing and the post seems to follow a checklist.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:59 pm @Epignosis - I went off of your wagon because I figured I was tunnelling you for things that are probably just an odd town-meta considering the other long-time syndicaters are not as suspicious of you as I have been throughout the game. And I felt eva was essentially therefore the correct vote choice for me in the case that my MR read is accurate, which I am starting to cement to myself for now. So that's the explanation- Idk if it's suitable for it, but i swear is truth
My preferred pronoun.

lmfao

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:16 am ill just stay on elephant for now because im torn here

hyena wagon building would be nice

would prefer @112 get off evenstar for today and talk to me more about hyena and elephant

i dont trust these animals

ok. i am about to catch up.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:18 am I would like to kill Long Con more than I would like to kill elephant. Long Con is more classically scummy in my opinion.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:51 pm @Long Con
@Quin

Did ya’ll miss me? I haven’t seen you since I got back. Gimmie some #content.
Soonish. I'll give you my catchup hot takes, still reading up. Epignosis - Evenstar took a turn when Epi decided she's not scum but is actually town, for the Four Reasons. I was seeing Ep as the Civ side of things there, but this turnaround could be a calculated pocketing ploy. LLD and Eva voting nutella is not that cool, nutella has looked very town over the days, and the timing of Eva's vote wasn't the best. 112 maybe sketchy. Michelle maybe sketchy.
This is a very reserved style of writing and the post seems to follow a checklist.
112 captures part of the spirit here

i think ive said this w.r.t nut, perhaps incorrectly, but i dont feel a town undercurrent with long con's thoughts. on elephant, individually, i'm torn. i'd rahter kill long con than elephant.

very good post. thank you.

wait just saw that apparently Benson was annoyed we didn't lynch TL. there could be something there- not so likely that he and i both screw up a read like that, even if it's early tbh

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:03 am @112

hey 112 i've missed you

could you do some stream of consciousness on your thoughts on elephant and relevant associatives over the course of this game?

As far as associatives go, they're not something I typically pay attention to without more flips than we've had. I don't remember him being a major proponent of the Dragomir lynch and so wouldn't use that in any way to clear him. And I don't think I've read a single post this game and had an 'a wolf wouldn't post that' revelation, and I keep feeling like I'm detecting bad agenda, power-wolfy confidence and very forced reactions from all of the posts I've read of him. I haven't been in the same dream as him since D1, but the feelings I had on him then still linger because he was a very strong wolf read of mine early in the game.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:10 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:08 pm wait just saw that apparently Benson was annoyed we didn't lynch TL. there could be something there- not so likely that he and i both screw up a read like that, even if it's early tbh
Yeah, I trust his reads, and I have a growing SR on T Lib myself.

There was a brief wagon on him that a bunch of people hopped on, then hopped off. I'm bad at in-the-moment wagonomics so I don't know what it means.

Do you want to make it a counter-wagon with me?

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

Yes.

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:25 pm Oh, thanks for reminding me, Jack...

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:17 am On a different subject, I am now reading nutella as town after reading through her posts in this new phase. I don't agree with everything she says but that's ok.

I was seeing Elephant as town in our time together before we merged back together. I am concerned though because he hasn't been here very much in this new phase and I don't understand his vote on Michelle. @Elephant I need to see more from you today.
This was such a wishy washy post. "I don't agree with everything she says but that's okay"? "I need to see more from you today"?

Juliets, as I recall your movement onto vanity stood out to me for seeming to just sheep others. Am I mischaracterising that?

yeah that's a bad post

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:32 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:40 pm Eva-- forget nutella and Epi for a second-- I'm not voting for either.

Who is bad and why?
Radishes, because of everything that happened in D4, plus compelling reasons that I can't share. Willing to let the vig get him though.
Quin, because they've lurked through the entire game and have a wolfy pickup today.
If it's not Nutella, Hyena is very likely scum. If neither of them are, look at Long Con.
112 could still be scum and I'm very tempted to resolve them today. They've felt weird this whole game and they had a wolfy vote earlier.

Never scum:
LLD
Rabbit
Pawn Lelouch

do it. resolve me. i dare you.

Long Con is who i'd look at before hyena and nute tbh

off radish imo

iaafr pls project town

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:55 pm Honestly just lynch Hyena. He's probs mafia off of Elephant.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

I don't like this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:58 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:56 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:55 pm Honestly just lynch Hyena. He's probs mafia off of Elephant.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine
I don't like this.
Finish the thought.

It reads like a powerwolf post to me. It's a mild thought- if it were a bigger ping, I'd share more words. I post things like that to prompt people to reread things for themselves when I get a tingle I don't know how to phrase. Asking me to elaborate is antithetical to the reason I post it; I want to see whether others can see what I see in the post.

What /i/ don't like about it is that it's so directly suggestive- the confidence seems forced, like he /wants/ to be seen as confident in the read, like he's shooting for the TWTBW cred. when i want to make a vote but don't care to explain it i don't usually say antyhing- i just vote. but pawn felt the need to justify it somehow, to tack on those two sentences with nothing really behind them but base confidence that can't reasonably manifest in a town game

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:04 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:59 pm You're so transparent.
It's called laziness and apathy actually.

i feel that dawg and have tried so hard to fight it

nihilism is the bane of all existence; it is our duty to fight it to our graves.

epi's post against me was garbage

he's saying i point things out without making judgment but he does the same thing to me smh

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:57 am
112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:00 am epi's post against me was garbage
What was garbage?

You were cherry-picking quotes and misrepresenting what I said- and falling into the pit of describing an action without going into details on the chain of reasoning that implies it as wolfy.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm Btw @112 @Pawn Lelouch if you guys wanna come back to that discussion about how much you hated my D2 rainbow now that we know there are probably no townies in Eva, Radishes and Iaafr and now that we know that Nova and DF are town and LC and Juliets are likely town as well...

I’m right here.

Mongrels.

what rainbow?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm Btw @112 @Pawn Lelouch if you guys wanna come back to that discussion about how much you hated my D2 rainbow now that we know there are probably no townies in Eva, Radishes and Iaafr and now that we know that Nova and DF are town and LC and Juliets are likely town as well...

I’m right here.

Mongrels.
what rainbow?
viewtopic.php?p=562203#p562203

viewtopic.php?p=562290#p562290

nobody you have listed as scum there has even flipped

Search found 280 matches