The Syndicate

Also are you TMI-ing that the wolves aren't lost? Your statement that I was bussing TL on purpose sort of seems to presume that

Also under your world TL is still scum anyway so why do you look like you're trying to shift off the TL wagon

[VOTE: TL] aubergine

Forgot to add my vote, but they're just outed wolf so yeah.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:31 pm TL might still be lost, in that case.

If TL is lost how can it be a bus

How would wolf Alison know that TL is their buddy and know to bus them

this Voxx theory is completely made up

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:31 pm Also are you TMI-ing that the wolves aren't lost? Your statement that I was bussing TL on purpose sort of seems to presume that

Also under your world TL is still scum anyway so why do you look like you're trying to shift off the TL wagon

I mean they might not be lost, it’s a possibility to consider.
Why do you think I, the person voting for and pushing TL, am trying to shift off the TL wagon?

I mean your wording looked like you were trying to justify a move off TL so.

why are people voting themselves, wtf

that is never correct regardless of alignment

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:36 pm YOLO

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

are you outing too? ok then

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:37 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:36 pm YOLO

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

My only argument is that you two are the only two people with WIM left.

That is a stupid argument because I always have high WIM regardless of my alignment

And where I'm standing I've outed one wolf and now two so obviously I'll have high WIM

This is a bad last gasp from you and I'm just going to exe TL and then you afterwards.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:39 pm Also by me being at -1 we can assume get more info on the world am pushing of exactly TSP and Alison where all the town are demotivated from all the mis eleminations

This world has been mechanically disproven

Hyena had 2 votes on her and both me and TSP were online and did not vote her

TSP wouldn't have locked me up if I was his mainwolf buddy, and if we were one lost one main then there would be nothing stopping the kill carrier from getting a kill on one of the nights that no kill happened

You are pushing mechanically impossible worlds and are hard outed.

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:41 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:40 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:39 pm In theroy we could clear Hyena if you think they could have gotten to parady they where here when i went to -1

I’m not clearing hyena off the theory that he doesn’t hammer you and also recall the tl/hyena pairing looking fairly strong right now so

hammer

Do not clear this slot when TL flips red, Hyena had no choice but to bus and tried to resist the wagon until the very end.

I repeat, do not clear the Hyena slot after TL's flip. That is my legacy.

Thanks for the game!

The "twist" so to speak to this game is that it's based on the kind of crappy American Dirk Gently TV show with Elijah Wood, if you've seen the show then the flavor and mechanics will likely/hopefully make sense to you! If not, it's a mediocre adaptation (with a couple bright spots tbf) of a Douglas Adams story.

Oooh fuck, I could have been outed based on my fake flavor here, if someone knew the story. The reason I claimed a fake flavor was that I was afraid that someone had a note saying something like "Secretly a Rockstar is the lost wolf", which seemed plausible to me, and I didn't think this setup had an actual flavor to call me out on so I made something up.

I had it brewing in my mind that I wanted to claim motion detector as a fakeclaim for a while now because I think it's a fakeclaim nobody ever uses so it might be believable. Except that was a pretty boring role for this game, so I added some small twists to make it look realistic. The Nemesis thing was because I was playing MTG and saw True-Name Nemesis and went "oh, cool, I'll add a Nemesis to my role claim, that might make it look a bit in line with Thesis/Antithesis stuff and The Right Person stuff".

How come Sloonei's info leaked out even after he died? And who was passing nutella notes?

Also what do the orders do actually

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:16 pm Nutella, TL and I saved you THREE time. ;-; Why couldn't you have just voted with us?

I mean, you guys hammered yourselves so not sure nutella is to blame there. I think there's a very decent chance she would have gotten there on you two being town because that level of AtE is out of your scum range anyway, if you had just not voted yourselves and allowed nutella to come back.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:17 pm The punk gang and marmot had maybe the most incredible use of a RB I've ever seen, blocking the NK THREE NIGHTS IN A ROW. I was dumbfounded tbh

Yeah, that was a pretty good use of a roleblock. I tried to swing it in my favor by arguing that it clears me/TSP from being a team because the town thought the same wolf would carry the kill every night, but that never panned out.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:18 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:17 pm Also what do the orders do actually

Assume you mean the orders from LC?

They basically just dictated target for TSP, and then he could choose whether to pull the trigger or not.

Lethal locks someone up, what does nonlethal do?

This game felt really swingy, the town played very good at times (blasting away 2 mafia D1, roleblocking the nightkill three times in a row) and very bad at times (quickhammering Quin without letting them speak for no reason, voting themselves in F5). I'm glad the pendulum ended up swinging our way but I do think that the game could have easily gone their way if some small stuff had changed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:23 pm Lethal did not act as a JK by the way, actions taken on the target the same night they're lethaled would still take effect. It just removed the target from the thread for a cycle. They also still counted for parity but that never became relevant here.

Yeah I knew it was bullshit when I saw it, I just went along with it because it cleared me.

Remind me again why the notes leaked everywhere?

My first two posts.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:46 am I'm lost. What does "out of the thread" mean? Are they not allowed to read the thread, or just not allowed to post/vote? (I assume the latter because it's much easier to enforce.) Are they in the playerlist or a separate category? Because if they're in the playerlist we should just have everyone check in to see who's missing and out of the thread.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:50 am I like LC jumping on a perceived slip. It's not a real slip, but being attentive to scumslips is townie (mafia know exactly who the mafia are most of the time and don't care) and the way he handled it doesn't look like scum trying to drum up suspicion based on a poor choice of wording.

Breadcrumbed lost wolf, because the main wolves knew I existed (I checked with nanook) so I wanted to soft lost wolf to them so they wouldn't nightkill me by accident. Had a heart attack when Sloonei's note came out because I thought someone would catch the soft now that they knew a lost wolf was in the game.

Neither was a real thought, I didn't care about people being put out of thread and I didn't care about LC's post. I just wanted an excuse to insert those lines in as naturally as possible. You never catch this kind of stuff if you aren't looking out for a lost wolf soft.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:40 pm Everyone go look at alison’s first post. Specifically, the first two words of it.

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be info leaking that there was a lost wolf in the game. I never would have softed so brazenly if it wasn't for that. I thought it would be the kind of thing where you would only catch it if you were main wolf and knew there was a lost wolf.

I killed you N2 because you were obvious town by that point and I thought you would probably get there on me. It was tough because nutella was a dayvig but I felt you were a better kill at the end of the day.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:05 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:04 am Alright, I'm less aggravated now.

GG, Alison and TSP. It was starting to get really tilting talking to both of you on that last day, lol.

That's what really started to confirm for me that it was you two, plus the amount of WIM you two had compared to the other three of us.

FWIW I'd have that amount of WIM regardless of my align. WIM is not alignment indicative for me lol.

But yes we were intentionally trying to tilt you into making a bad vote :P

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:12 am Tsp was outed for so fucking long lmfao

I legit though TSP was outed the moment Poison flipped which was why I immediately attacked him the next day. I thought he was a goner. Somehow the gamestate changed from that and I just went with it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:01 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:40 pm Everyone go look at alison’s first post. Specifically, the first two words of it.

Honestly, I didn't expect there to be info leaking that there was a lost wolf in the game. I never would have softed so brazenly if it wasn't for that. I thought it would be the kind of thing where you would only catch it if you were main wolf and knew there was a lost wolf.

I killed you N2 because you were obvious town by that point and I thought you would probably get there on me. It was tough because nutella was a dayvig but I felt you were a better kill at the end of the day.

I probably would have caught you day 3, but only because I had that information and was going to look for hints like the ones you dropped.

Spec chat confirmed it when I learned the mechanics of my role.

I should have known better than to assume town doesn't have a way to find the existence of a lost wolf in a role madness game tbh

I'm glad I realized that you would have gotten there on me and killed you instead of nutella!

This game was a little challenging for me to play because I had two town daykills holding me hostage the entire game and half my team got killed D1. I had to devote time to managing it and making sure that things went well, especially during F5.

Unfortunately I had to sort of open push on townies a lot since I was down on numbers and I'm glad nobody caught me on that (except Mac I think, and he died).

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:37 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:28 am Tsp not risking letting Sloonei stay alive, glad my partner got the memo :P

The curse is lifted.

What curse?

just pocket him and then tell him he can always catch you if you're wolf so the fact that he townreads you means that you're lock town

then wait a day or so for that to marinate, nightkill him, and brazenly claim that the sloonei green flip outs you as town because sloonei is never wrong about you

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] so what was the town tell you had on me earlier in the game that you didn't want to reveal

or was that fake

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:26 am And this game turned into “tsp and Alison fail at understanding mechanics because the mechanics spew them scum” so obviously not a good read in general

I blatantly lied about how mechanics work at least 3 times in this game. I don't recall about what exactly, I think the way your power worked was one of them.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:21 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:47 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:45 amI'm a mafia this game and I think I'm the only one.

oh wow

I had no idea there were lost wolves at the time.

I enjoy that people thought Long Con town-spewed me after his lynch regardless of his attitude from this.

What were you trying to communicate?