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give me a pool of 3 people and I'll bargain with one of 'em tonight. they can confirm I gave 'em powers. you pick the people, so it can't be rigged.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:23 pm Ohai, Alison! I have the dumbest tinfoil that you are on a 3p team with Kyle and LC. Isn't that dumb? Pretty dumb.
dizzy and syn are good picks. I don't want nutella - she seems to be the town leader, and I want my bargains to go on people that the mafia will ignore and not nightkill (which I thought falcon was but apparently not). it's a win win for you, if you have to make the mafia decide between killing the loud town leader and killing the person with the PR. plus the way they use the PR can clear or implicate someone you were uncertain about.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:28 pmYeah. It's not really even a real tinfoil. Just more of a cool thought.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:26 pmgive me a pool of 3 people and I'll bargain with one of 'em tonight. they can confirm I gave 'em powers. you pick the people, so it can't be rigged.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:23 pm Ohai, Alison! I have the dumbest tinfoil that you are on a 3p team with Kyle and LC. Isn't that dumb? Pretty dumb.
also if I was in a 3P team I would probably do more to push my team's agenda instead of just sitting back and handing out bargains to get an easy win
Here's a pool of three people:
Dizzy
Syn
Nutella
Already gave out role thief, pick another.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:37 pmLet's say Dizzy, Syn and Michelle then. Role thieving.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:31 pm dizzy and syn are good picks. I don't want nutella - she seems to be the town leader, and I want my bargains to go on people that the mafia will ignore and not nightkill (which I thought falcon was but apparently not). it's a win win for you, if you have to make the mafia decide between killing the loud town leader and killing the person with the PR. plus the way they use the PR can clear or implicate someone you were uncertain about.
also pick a power to give.
no I've just been picking more or less at random from my pool
i'm tired of my contractees dying because I need them alive to fulfil my win conditionJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:46 pm Alison selecting out of the agreed pool smh
Oh well, made is probs town anyway
if I protect a dealmaker, I can't strike a new bargain, so it rounds down to 0 anyway.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:00 amwell... i wasn't able to find out if you'd count as your own victory point person because you weren't around to respond, but it seemed that at least being able to protect your dealmakers would be beneficial to everyone involved, especially since you're working at such a deficit, and if you yourself had counted as a person having accepted a deal that would make things easier for you mathematically in the endgame.
i'll double check with dunia but it seems win win to me so if it's allowed I'll do it.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:58 amwhat the fuck is that allowed?Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:52 amif I protect a dealmaker, I can't strike a new bargain, so it rounds down to 0 anyway.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:00 amwell... i wasn't able to find out if you'd count as your own victory point person because you weren't around to respond, but it seemed that at least being able to protect your dealmakers would be beneficial to everyone involved, especially since you're working at such a deficit, and if you yourself had counted as a person having accepted a deal that would make things easier for you mathematically in the endgame.
yes, I count as my own victory point.
However, thinking about this gives me a new idea instead. I can still accept the bargain (I have until EOD to do so). So my compromise is that you take my power every day and help me fulfil my win condition by striking bargains with people, and in exchange I will act as a doctor and allow town to control who I protect every night. you get an extra doctor, and I win at the same rate (and can protect my dealmakers too).
sound good?
yeah i'm in lol this sounds fun
got it
It's not clear to me if ability thief can steal factional NKs. But either way I'm town. If ability thief *can* steal factional NK then Kyle would have an NK, and he doesn't ability thief *can't* steal factional NKs, then why was there no NK last night?
I'll rand the protection between those 3 then.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:39 amProbably Kyle? Or someone else who has been cleared (sort of) like tutuu or radishes
There are 14 people alive. There are 4 people who are either me or people who have bargained with me. These people must comprise more than half of the number of people living. So with 14 people alive, I need at least 8, so 4 more. Let's say you exe someone, the mafia kills someone, and I strike a bargain with someone. That would lead to 12 people alive tomorrow and 5 bargainees. The next day would, hopefully, be 10 people alive and 6 bargainees, which would allow me to fulfil my win con.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:47 amHow close are you to achieving your Win Con? I'll support extending the game for you.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:52 amif I protect a dealmaker, I can't strike a new bargain, so it rounds down to 0 anyway.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:00 amwell... i wasn't able to find out if you'd count as your own victory point person because you weren't around to respond, but it seemed that at least being able to protect your dealmakers would be beneficial to everyone involved, especially since you're working at such a deficit, and if you yourself had counted as a person having accepted a deal that would make things easier for you mathematically in the endgame.
yes, I count as my own victory point.
However, thinking about this gives me a new idea instead. I can still accept the bargain (I have until EOD to do so). So my compromise is that you take my power every day and help me fulfil my win condition by striking bargains with people, and in exchange I will act as a doctor and allow town to control who I protect every night. you get an extra doctor, and I win at the same rate (and can protect my dealmakers too).
sound good?
I leave the game at the end of the next day phase assuming everything goes well (ie. my bargainees dont die). If not it will take longerHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:10 pm@Alison When exactly do you leave the game again (assuming you leave when you've fulfilled your win con)?Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:07 pmAnd the order I'd go in if I had full control is Made -> Alison -> Dizzy -> Michelle -> JPIC. JPIC is on the border though for me. Made -> Alison and then one of Michelle or Dizzy would probably always be what I would aim for right now though.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 pmOh, that makes sense. Right now, I think Made is in the bottom of the general accepted PoE, and he's, like, somewhere in the middle of mine. I have no problem starting there.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:59 pmI just mean, let's yeet the strongest overlap between the generally accepted POE and your mirror-universe one.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pmHow do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pmVenn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
Gotcha
You dont have to use the silence if you dont want to, just accept the bargain
Then help me fulfil my win con early and I'll be out of your hairtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:44 amif our numbers get low alison could in theory scumside, not out of betrayal but to fulfill her wincon, coz like, lets say last scum is outed, and if we were to yeet them game is over and alison doesnt fulfill her wincon, then she is incentivized to scumside hyptheticallyDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:42 amWell, yeah, I really do want to believe that. But not sure I can afford to.
sure. Then Kyle votes me tomorrow, steals my power and uses it to strike a bargain with someone he trusts in exchange for a pro-town power. I am fine with that compromise.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:30 amDo you have a problem with me arguing this from a logical standpoint? Because I think it's pretty logical from a town perspective to be as careful as we can. Does that make sense? I'm not trying to sabotage you.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:24 am If you're going to argue that Dizzy then you better accept the bargain I gave you because I offered you roleblocker which is pro town. I'm going to offer tutuu silencer tonight regardless. If she doesn't want to accept then I'll have Kyle steal my power and offer something unambiguously townie (eg. protective) to someone unambiguously town. The bargains made by Kyle count towards my win con, so I'll be happy to strike that compromise if you're paranoid.
I was thinking I would accept your offer myself, but I'd really like it if @tutuu didn't. Tutu, I'd rather have a pro-town power in play instead of a useless one. I can accept and you can decline. Does that sound ok?
I won't, my role can't kill. It would be pretty out of flavor for the Gambit Demon and also add unnecessary swing to the setup where half the game is decided based on the 3P essentially kingmaking. I'm just here to get my free win and peace out.
I gave him the power to restrict people's posts
that would be terrible from a setup design perspective. You'd be violating the flavor of the original role and adding a huge amount of swing to the game for no reasonDyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:13 pmI accepted Alisons bargain.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:11 pmDon’t be sorry. I had a sleepless night worrying that i’ll spend most of today defending myself, so that’s a relief
How come you can roleblock?
But the wording of it was very ominous. I'm seriously expecting all bargainees to die once Alison achieves her wincon or if she is killed... Maybe I'm overly paranoid, but that would be in line with 3p roles here at cindy kate. I've seen some really dangerous ones.
you accepted my bargain last day phase so you'd be yeeting yourself. I've townsided up the ass and done nothing to help scum other than give ted a bargain (who I didnt know was scum). Leave me alone.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:27 pm I'm questioning whether yeeting Alison is a good idea.
@Michelle Did you ever role claim btw?
did i upset u