The Syndicate

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm what the hell

i thought i voted'

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

let's try again!

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:07 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:43 pm @Evenstar why is Spiny a town read for you?

Nice chart. I think you missed MR though

spiny is town because of her early pressure & defenses - let me dig up the posts

same kind of hard gut read as nutella, but given that I could very well be wrong about nutella it's a good idea for me to review the material

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:19 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 am Morning everyone, can't say i'll gladly catch up, can someone tell me if is worth reading all the last 7 pages?

Ah Michelle ma belle blah blah blah French stuff

To be honest no but it also can’t hurt?
Summary:
Juliets: bad
Nutella: good
Drago: weird
Jack: good for now
Nova: scary after cats and dogs
elephant: elephant
Mac: very positive
Creature: creature
iaiaafrair: my new favorite

no mention of 112?

also just looked in your iso and you actually haven't acknowledged 112 once even though they've had lots of posts and attention so basically you're officially w/w now congratulations

No who’s 112

how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.

Actual insight like this is rare and usually from town.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar

so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.

that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.

should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P

I'm pretty sure I've literally never seen this post from a scum. I catch it a lot, but it's never from scum.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:32 am

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 am
how do you have a strong favorite read of iaafr but "who dat" 112 when all of iaafr's meaningful posts/interactions were with 112 lol this read fake

I've been reading and avoiding posting until I finished catching up, bc sleepy and not feeling chatty tbh. but this one stuck out enough to need to reply in the moment.

This one? This is what it was? Of all the posts you latched on to this? I mean I quoted the point I liked from iaafr and it was about Mac. And then he challenged me to a duel and I liked that too. So not all of the meaningful posts/interactions are about 112.

I’m not generally one for individual post construction, but it’s ... interesting ... (someone kill me) that the first half has no punctuation and the latter half does. That shows different curator styles, or that both parts were written separately, or its a player thing I don’t understand because I’ve never played with spiny creature before. Slight lean scum though for the first possibility: in a normal world town would never make such a mentality shift from one half to another, but there are conceivable reasons. The second and third possibilities are NAI.

gone thru mentions. I switch between caps / no caps and punctuation / no punctuation a lot, it is indeed NAI for me. ig it is the difference between shitposting register and longer-sentences register, but it doesn't mean I thought about the punctuated sentences more; I don't edit any of my posts as any alignment unless they're very long and making a complicated case.

and as for the first paragraph: yeah it was weird. I stand by that. missing all of the 112/iaafr pocket-not-pocket conversation means you skimmed the thread, so even if it's true you missed forming an impression on iaafr it was weird to me to then have 10 different reads if you hadn't read a great deal.

has courage of her convictions

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:03 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Oh wait, I totally forgot about Spiny not directly confronting me about liking too many people.

[VOTE: Spiny Creature] aubergine

*narrows eyes*

I wasn't gonna make too much of it when it was just a throwaway thought from you, but when it's repeated with the exact same wording ("directly confronting me") 12 hours later, that feels like a static read. and maybe forced.

me in one post: "I'm still catching up and wasn't feeling like replying while still reading, but I do want to reply to this one specific thing from Tony"

me in the very next post: "now that i'm posting i might as well post the loose vibes I have on about 5 people so far, including a vague half-remembered read on Hyena, but these are not replies just memories"

like... dude, the lack of direct reply to you is explained. also "directly confront" as if my read on you wasn't as weaksauce as "I think I remember X scummy thing about Hyena, but not sure, will finish catchup first".

tunneling me for not replying directly to you, when I hadn't replied directly to ANYONE IN THE GAME except for Tony, and then repeating the same wording to explain the scumread 12 hours later, just feels insincere to me.

this is a good thought

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:27 pm not gonna quote that whole thing @Hyena but i only specifically object to the last one

"more fencesitting :P"

no. i just straight up, by no stretch of the imagination, ever townread Pawn. I said to him "hey I haven't seen any of your posts because I left before you, here is a question for you". that is 110% of our interactions at the point where you said I was calling him town.

you can't just manufacture a nonexistent townread on Pawn and then call me "fencesitting" lol

point out where specifically you got the impression I was townreading him with a quote please?

spiny is right that she's never townread pawn and that Hyena's behaviour is sus as hell

honestly could go back there rn if not for urgent breakfast spreads

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:28 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

please explain what is happening

you are just reposting our read lists and coming to some conclusions without any explanation

I doublechecked my read list against pawn's because I know he's good at reading games, and usually does so fairly truthfully regardless of alignment. His reads agree with mine, and disagree with yours. That says I'm not just playing badly; you're scum.

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:40 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:28 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

please explain what is happening

you are just reposting our read lists and coming to some conclusions without any explanation

I doublechecked my read list against pawn's because I know he's good at reading games, and usually does so fairly truthfully regardless of alignment. His reads agree with mine, and disagree with yours. That says I'm not just playing badly; you're scum.

OK, this honestly sounds like very towny progression.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:42 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:41 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

thank fuck

i like your balls dude, got a real set, gotta clack em

just not at me, im gonna have to castrate you im sorry

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:46 pmWhat's AtE?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:54 pm I followed along a bit at work today. Just got home.

I think the biggest takeaway from the Eva/Nute dichotomy is that Jack is probably town. This is good, as I was ready to scumread him for a lacklustre opening to the game. But his angle on Eva/Nute seems way too much effort for a scum to take on a fight that, one presumes, involves one or two town.

Welcome to my town, Jack.

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 am Someone really familiar with TonyStark should give me a summary of how his current game compares to his town meta.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:09 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:02 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 am Someone really familiar with TonyStark should give me a summary of how his current game compares to his town meta.

bump

I have such a gut suspicion that Tony is a wolf. Someone help me out.

Well I agree with you on that. So if you're asking for someone to help you out of the tunnel, afraid I can't help you there. Willing to give you another shovel to keep digging though.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:54 pm I followed along a bit at work today. Just got home.

I think the biggest takeaway from the Eva/Nute dichotomy is that Jack is probably town. This is good, as I was ready to scumread him for a lacklustre opening to the game. But his angle on Eva/Nute seems way too much effort for a scum to take on a fight that, one presumes, involves one or two town.

Welcome to my town, Jack.

... nani the fuck?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:12 pm Lmao you guys really hate that Jack read.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:15 pm Are you people serious?

I missed that the game had started and I have 47 pages to read!?!?!?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:50 pm We need to get rid of some players. Too many to keep track of.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:55 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:53 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:50 pm We need to get rid of some players. Too many to keep track of.

Hopefully a bunch of no-voters just get shot at night

Still so far away though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:05 pm By the way,

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:03 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:01 pm 3: I don't think him being scum would impact my reads much. The point was to check against someone good, not against someone town.

wut

Is Eva saying she didn't care whether Pawn was town or scum when checking her reads against him to decide on nutella's alignment?

Is she playing this game on a different plane that a mortal like I could not hope to understand, or does that not make sense?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:38 pm Radishes I’m kinda surprised you’re playing so much today.

Different forum different belief in D1’s?

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:09 pm Town + town read

Benson

iaafr
Evenstar


Town lean

Creature
Hyena
juliets
MacDougall


Null +

Epignosis
Master Radishes
nutella
Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo
vanity.


Null

DFaraday
Dom
Dragomir
Long Con
Michelle
novaselinenever
Spiny Creature
Quin
Rej


Null - / slight wolf suspicion

Elephant
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Texas Cloverleaf


wolfy

112
TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal


A lot of these are shit reads and determined on the spot.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:14 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:09 pm Town + town read

Benson

iaafr
Evenstar


Town lean

Creature
Hyena
juliets
MacDougall


Null +

Epignosis
Master Radishes
nutella
Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo
vanity.


Null

DFaraday
Dom
Dragomir
Long Con
Michelle
novaselinenever
Spiny Creature
Quin
Rej


Null - / slight wolf suspicion

Elephant
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Texas Cloverleaf


wolfy

112
TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal


A lot of these are shit reads and determined on the spot.

Hmm... I know I'm breaking the rules here, but I just mentioned Benson while talking about Sprit, so...

...just wanted to say that I retract what I just said about you, Benson. :P

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:22 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:17 pm sprit seems really concerned about votes and suspicion even though we're far out from EoD and he doesn't have *that* much heat. I'm a little pinged by that.

good

i can make you medium pinged about it too

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:42 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:41 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

thank fuck

i like your balls dude, got a real set, gotta clack em

just not at me, im gonna have to castrate you im sorry

Hmm. I haven't looked at the entire interaction, but the pretend dead cat could be mafia here. I don't like that they pounced on Sprit for being concerned about getting lynched when Sprit has been concerned about it for, like, the entire game it feels like.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:07 pm Players I am null on that you are not (please tell me about how you arrived at your reads on these players):

Master Radishes - Seeming just silly
Texas Cloverleaf - His initiative to catch up from page 1
Pawn Lelouch - More the early gut I had on Pawn Lelouch I thought would do more as scum
Spiny Creature - I liked her snarkiness
Michelle - I think I'm supposed to be townreading her by now if she's town
DFaraday - The one post he posted I called probably scum, so UTR
Rej - I ISO'd him and didn't like what I saw, also I usually find one post I like from him when he's town

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:18 pm Long Con
Benson
Creature
Dom
sprityo
Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis
Master Radishes
DFaraday
vanity.
juliets
Elephant
Hyena
112
Michelle
Quin
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
novaselinenever
Pawn Lelouch
Spiny Creature
Texas Cloverleaf
TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal
Rej
nutella
Evenstar
Dragomir
Lady Lambdadelta
iaafr
MacDougall

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:31 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:27 pmI dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:37 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:35 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:31 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:27 pmI dig the spiciness of those wolf reads. Talk me through MacDougal, please. Does he try to facilitate pro-town initiatives regardless of faction?

He's quite capable of such a thing. I still think he went TMI earlier, but I'm used to being the only one who believes something like that.

Yeah, I definitely wanted to believe it was TMI earlier. But I've been burned SOO many times by putting too much stock into a single instance of ostensible TMI.

Hold up are we still talking about the thing where I exhibited TMI on Dragomir by virtue of accusing others of having TMI on Dragomir?

Because if so consider this.

If I exhibited TMI on Dragomir, am I right that the others did too? Or did I see a bunch of people town reading a townie and decide to try to accuse them all to stop them from getting their townie way? Or is it a mix?

Or did I just get wigged out by the fact that a bunch of people were town reading someone who I thought didn't deserve a town read?

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:38 am Benson's started reaching the point of too agreeable for me btw

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:11 am @Epignosis , why is Tony Stark lynch fodder? Is that just based on this gam? Or is he a common mislynch?

I do agree that that type of style is an easy push for the wolves if he's town. But I just can't ignore my strongest intuition atm. He's too pedestrian and blendy to not be a wagon today.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:21 am

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:07 am Drago has seemingly disappeared while several people are calling for his head. Never a good look.

I need him to post so I can re-evaluate that read. I'm still kinda holding on to his start that I liked.

it feels like you really had to force this post tbh

112 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:32 am

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:28 am 112, do you understand why I'm wolf reading you?

I understand everything. I am the most intelligent agency in the universe.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:40 am I've been independently reading some of Tex's posts as scum but am willing to overlook it because I thought their entrance was quite respectable.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:26 am @MacDougall this post is unrelated to the jack discussion but was a turning point that opened my eyes to scummy!radish:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:38 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:36 pm vanity lock town

You're late to the game on this one.

anyway this was around the same time as my interaction with him about jack, read through that for context, then he comes out with this:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:13 pm Let's all vote jack then, since I'm clearly wrong about it.

which is the scummiest post in the game yet. cue my vote.

thoughts?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:31 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:26 am @MacDougall this post is unrelated to the jack discussion but was a turning point that opened my eyes to scummy!radish:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:38 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:36 pm vanity lock town

You're late to the game on this one.

anyway this was around the same time as my interaction with him about jack, read through that for context, then he comes out with this:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:13 pm Let's all vote jack then, since I'm clearly wrong about it.

which is the scummiest post in the game yet. cue my vote.

thoughts?

(a) I've been hard townreading vanity for a long time now

(2) You missed the part where four or five players criticised my Jack read, and I gave a 'lmao wow you guys hate that' post followed by the above quoted post. I see why you guys need a 'sarcasm' button on this board I guess.


Your read is bad and you should feel bad.

(1) I don't care, it was suspicious.
(b) I don't care, it was suspicious.

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:29 am

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:19 am Man the avatar upload restrictions here suck, this why no one talks to me

I’ll talk to you! Hi I’m TSP. Could you please give me 3 non alligned pairs, players who aren’t w/w?

Uhh beat I can do there is say that I think all of Mac 112 iaafr are town so none of those three pairings are w/w

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:59 am

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:49 am

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:29 am

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:19 am Man the avatar upload restrictions here suck, this why no one talks to me

I’ll talk to you! Hi I’m TSP. Could you please give me 3 non alligned pairs, players who aren’t w/w?

Uhh beat I can do there is say that I think all of Mac 112 iaafr are town so none of those three pairings are w/w

This response is disappointing if you're town.

The response is disappointing regardless of alignment but thems the breaks of starting 40 pages in the hole

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:15 pm

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:04 pm @juliets people seem to think you're more likely town, who's your top two suspects if I were to take a look at someone specifically

I just dropped my suspicion of Tony so that's no longer in play.

I am concerned about novaselinever and Rej at this point but there is not much to go on. I'm also concerned about Nanook but that may also be because he hasn't had a lot to say from what I remember. I don't understand why he (or Eva) followed LLD's vote. LLD led him astray from what I remember in the champs finale and this reminds me of that. I will take a look at him shortly.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:36 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:27 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:15 pm

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:04 pm @juliets people seem to think you're more likely town, who's your top two suspects if I were to take a look at someone specifically

I just dropped my suspicion of Tony so that's no longer in play.

I am concerned about novaselinever and Rej at this point but there is not much to go on. I'm also concerned about Nanook but that may also be because he hasn't had a lot to say from what I remember. I don't understand why he (or Eva) followed LLD's vote. LLD led him astray from what I remember in the champs finale and this reminds me of that. I will take a look at him shortly.

Wait, why did you completely drop the suspicion? I mean, his responses were okay, but it didn't seem like anything that should completely rectify his wolfy thread presence.

Wrt Nanook: I'm concerned about his over-emphasis that he isn't going to "play" early on because of the high player count. He keeps restating that fact; all the while he's in the thread and interacting ALL the time anyways, so it isn't even accurate.

Benson I just did a long post about Tony's responses to my accusations. The things I pointed out he had a good response for, most of them were things he pointed out were jokes and as I looked at them again I could see that they probably were. Maybe there are other reasons I should consider him that weren't in my ISO that others brought out. Why do you see him as wolfy?

Also, I need to go to my appointment in a few minutes and I won't be back until around 4:00 ugh, two hours from EOD. I dread it.

Also also, I just read through 112 again and I don't see me voting for her day 1. I will try to look at Nanook in the next few minutes.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:35 am wait is this one of those tricks the hosts are playing on us?? is this one of the ~~*unorthodox*~~ elements? is nova a plant?!

Btw anyone think I was onto something here?? He popped in once and dropped assertions that sprit and epi are bad with no explanation. Are we bring incepted? @novaselinenever are you the inceptor???