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by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:28 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:22 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pm long cons town I think
what why?
I liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.

also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me

before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
Well, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.
it's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rekt
Where are you at with Drago? I remember you said he was pinging you since you put him down as villa but I can remember if you said why or not
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:33 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:30 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:28 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:25 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:22 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:19 pm long cons town I think
what why?
I liked your post saying I pinged you. seemed natural. I think if scum wanted to push me you would've given at least one reason.

also scum tend to see my overall game as Towny and tend to tmi me town more than vaguely sus me

before that, I also mildly liked you saying we post too much. I think town say that more than scum by some amount relative to rand% or whatever.
Well, don't be so hasty, I'm putting together a post with some of the reasons.
it's too late I'm townreading you forever now get rekt
Should I finish doing that post, or are you going to concede and save me the trouble?
i mean im town so if you have any other scumreads your time is better spent there

also @benson i dont remember what pinged me about drago

something something activity patterns something something his aggression is a bit too pointed and gave me some scum vibes at times...? felt like he was pushing where i sussed...? idk man

for how not into this game i am i really should be posting less
I thought it was weird when right after Eva made her case against Mac, Drago popped in just to tell us he *had* a case against Mac but didn't have time to write it all out. It was like he wanted to get on the wagon early for whatever reason.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:42 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

MacDougall wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:41 pm Who else was it that said rabbit reminds them of the spec chat rabbit and town read them for it? I wanna give them town reads.
Master Radishes?
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:44 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

[mention]iaafr[/mention] I'm not confident enough in my town reads to do your game yet. I don't even have anyone I'd want to call "top town". If I remember I'll do your game tomorrow or something.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:47 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:44 pm i already think radishes is town, if he's the one who gave that read

esp if benson is town, from the way radishes kinda reinforced the townread of benson when i was starting to doubt it

no reason to stop me from turning on benson at all if radishes scum benson town
That's an interesting take.

I do have to admit, I have slight concerns over MR for giving me the town lean so easily. Like really, I've done fuck all this game compared to what I typically do on our home site.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:50 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

MacDougall wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:46 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:44 pm @iaafr I'm not confident enough in my town reads to do your game yet. I don't even have anyone I'd want to call "top town". If I remember I'll do your game tomorrow or something.
Can we fast forward through the part where you're tinfoiling and get to the part where I'm locktown so I can be this "top town"?
Nah, you're gonna have to sweat for that.

Q: Do you think 112 is trying to pocket you, or something? I kinda get that vibe.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:54 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Before my dishonestly infects too many thoughts I should confess that I don't have a hard scum read on 112 or anything like that. But I'm suspicious and paranoid because she really hasn't' delivered the insight I expect so far.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:26 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

nutella wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:11 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:28 pm Looked at the ISO: 112 has way too few hot-takes/60. That's a lynching imo
I'm intrigued by how much you two have been at each other's throats. Both of you have said things to the effect of "we can spot each other when we're both town" and the opposite of that has happened, which makes me think one of you is likely bad. I have leaned 112 based on some prior reasons and because I saw her as a deepwolf in wc1 whereas I'm unfamiliar with you.
From your perspective I can understand this. However, I'd caution that it's probably too early to be definitively suggesting that one of us has to be bad based on how we've interacted. I wouldn't be surprised if 112 pops in tomorrow and starts calling me a villa.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:32 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:17 pm full disclosure i think eva is town but i kinda wanna just pl her on my perception that she keeps tunneling town (me, mac, hyena) and is going to continue to do so and form stubborn uncompromising reads that i disagree with etc

probably wont end up staying on this vote but theres no good wagons yet

eh maybe i sit on 112 for now

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
I confused about what you're saying here
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:36 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:33 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:32 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:17 pm full disclosure i think eva is town but i kinda wanna just pl her on my perception that she keeps tunneling town (me, mac, hyena) and is going to continue to do so and form stubborn uncompromising reads that i disagree with etc

probably wont end up staying on this vote but theres no good wagons yet

eh maybe i sit on 112 for now

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
I confused about what you're saying here
PL stands for policy lynch

as in I'll lynch a townread because I dislike what they're doing to the gamestate and they keep tunneling my townreads
Oh right. I should've figure that out lol.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:39 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

I like this discourse because nutella was the most firmly null player for me (of everyone posting consistently). I did a cursory ISO and I still honestly don't know. I can't find anything that's inherently wolfy to even comment on.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:40 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

[mention]Evenstar[/mention] how serious was your initial big case on Mac? How much was exaggerated?
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:41 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:39 pm What is -EV?
negative expected value for the town.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:45 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Trustworthy liberal probably just had the wolfiest pop in of the game.
by Benson
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:46 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
this is like

incredibly simlar

to exactly how evenstar TMI'd hyena as town D1 of that game
If Nute ever flips wolf I'm calling Hyena my certified top town
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:25 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Long Con wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:56 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:54 pm maybe we should just lynch dragomir because i hate this post
Dragomir wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:59 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:54 pm Dragomir is getting a lot of townreads. I'd be stunned if this isn't TMI from somewhere.
Stunned? Does that make *this* TMI then?
:ponder: :ponder:
Mafucka ninja'd me. Shit lol. Mindmeld buddies. I got the same idea. He sounds way too sure that there is TMI involved, so he must know that I'm town.
It does feel like the slick pander of a con artist. "Shit lol. Mindmeld buddies."
Yeesh, possibly. Especially when my comment wasn't anything extraordinary.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:34 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:15 pm [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine
No new reason, just coasting on my one scum read from the players I’m almost familiar with
CMV: this is the worst vote in the game so far.

I do even think there was the slightest of follow-up
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:35 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:15 pm [VOTE: Juliets] aubergine
No new reason, just coasting on my one scum read from the players I’m almost familiar with
CMV: this is the worst vote in the game so far.

I do even think there was the slightest of follow-up
*don't not do
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:44 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Maybe this is poor reasoning but Hyena recklessly voting everywhere just seems so villagery. I always see villagers do that more often than wolves.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:46 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

My 112 read looks better and better as we progress without her truly getting involved with the wolf hunt.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:03 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:56 am Has anyone ever even decided to go so far as to go want to do look more like?

:shrug:
Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:06 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:04 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:03 am
nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:56 am Has anyone ever even decided to go so far as to go want to do look more like?

:shrug:
Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?
whipped cream pouring like waaterfaaallls
It's an old reference but it checks out :clap:
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:07 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

nutella wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:05 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 pm I know the feel when you're baked and you think you just discovered the secret of the universe in the colour of your curtains man. So I'll let that one slide through to the keeper.
Actually though did you ever respond to that tmi thing
He basically responded by calling me a wolf (I'm exaggerating the truth, but that's what it seemed like lol)
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:10 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:07 am
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:23 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:55 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:51 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:47 pm Hey Nanook, where the fuck are you? Stop hiding behind Mac and start playing the game.
This is on topic though? Why the green?

And to answer your earlier question I'm still null+ on Mac.
Hi Pawn. I see you're still around and close-reading despite your last post being two hours ago. Care to share any of your insights, or are you just gonna float through the rest of the day taking convenient potshots?
Mac is comfy though.

I mean I can sheep you instead if you want. Who should I be voting for?
fuck you get your own opinions
That's a D5 thing
I thought you were great and fearsome though :ponder:

Give me a fresh 112 take and I'll give you a D1 pass
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:42 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

112 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:35 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:43 pm im just always baffled when i get tunneled like this because i hardly see any scum with a playstyle that matches my towngame and i feel like ive been mostly transparent with most of my thoughts and my confidence levels are shaky like theyre supposed to be and i clearly dont have tmi and wtf honestly

also no, i dont have a strong argument for why benson is town other than them feeling generally solvy and liking the posts i said i liked (their first readspost, their post saying they dont actually have a confident scumread on 112, their post saying they wouldnt be surprised if 112 came in townreading them tomorrow, etc)
iaafr/benson/112 towncore imo
loling
@iaarf I told you she'd come back with the villa read ;)
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:46 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

[VOTE: Elephant ] aubergine
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 am
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]

Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 pm
Creature wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm Yeah you guys should D1 a new player cause they’ll be harder to read!

Wait....
Epignosis then?
Fine with me. I'm not bad, but there's no way I'm going to keep up with this.
I am awake and picking up where I left off last night. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine for trying reverse pysychology, and a revenge vote on Hyena. Looking at the poll, I anticipate my vote may change during the next 600 posts of catching up.
LIke, why say the last part? Wolves so often feel the need to tack on additional information about hwo they are going to vote.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:57 am
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:50 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 pm
Creature wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm Yeah you guys should D1 a new player cause they’ll be harder to read!

Wait....
Epignosis then?
Fine with me. I'm not bad, but there's no way I'm going to keep up with this.
I am awake and picking up where I left off last night. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine for trying reverse pysychology, and a revenge vote on Hyena. Looking at the poll, I anticipate my vote may change during the next 600 posts of catching up.
LIke, why say the last part? Wolves so often feel the need to tack on additional information about hwo they are going to vote.
That’s some of the worst logic I’ve ever read, and I’ve played with ds
Thanks, I try my best.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:03 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:58 am
112 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:55 am i make like 100 posts a game when i'm town that can arguably be read as tmi. i think tmi reads should only be given good weight when they're very blatant. i haven't even read the alleged mac-drago tmi though, just want to say that i can understand why mac might be frustrated here.
I made a read that said Dragomir was probably getting TMI townreads and then I got accused of having TMI on him for making that read. It's just the kind of crap that irritates me. I just want space to solve.
Why is that crap? It's D1 and we have like nothing to work with other than tenuous things like that? You aren't above being suspected.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:05 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

@112 at what point did you stop suspecting me?
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:12 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:06 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:05 am @112 at what point did you stop suspecting me?
Benson, son of Ben. May I offer you a Creature lynch as a starter?
I have almost no opinion on him. I'll do an ISO in a sec.
I do share the sentiment that the 5-6 people villa-reading him does NOT mean he's spewed town in a game this big.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:14 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Does anyone remember all the players that gave Creature town reads early on? I'm too lazy to search it.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:17 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:15 am Jack was one. I kinda sheeped it. Don't remember who else. Maybe Evenstar?
Thanks. I remember Evenstar came in afterwards saying that Creature was spewed town *because* of all the early town reads.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 pm
Creature wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm Yeah you guys should D1 a new player cause they’ll be harder to read!

Wait....
Epignosis then?
Fine with me. I'm not bad, but there's no way I'm going to keep up with this.
I am awake and picking up where I left off last night. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine for trying reverse pysychology, and a revenge vote on Hyena. Looking at the poll, I anticipate my vote may change during the next 600 posts of catching up.
LIke, why say the last part? Wolves so often feel the need to tack on additional information about hwo they are going to vote.
I mention not being caught up because I want to be transparent about the state of my mind, and I see the need for transparency since the original votes on Epignosis have gone elsewhere, and I have not. I had hoped to avoid ill-considered cases on me. Judge for yourself how successful that was. :pout:
112 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:37 am actually, let's just cut off the infected part while it's early.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine
You have no case and no investigation, merely pressure. Why do you do it?

Unfortunately I can't find any more votes in that "expand view" feature, although I know iaafr was just sheeping 112, and Nanook seems to have a blank vote. I'll go back to catching up until someone actually quotes or mentions me, ok?
Yeah, all fair.

This wasn't directed at me but I think votes for merely pressure are acceptable strategies.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:30 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

I can't bring myself to get serious about a Creature wagon today when a) he doesn't really leave a good or bad impression on me; and b) people from this site, who know him better than i do, were calling him villa right off the bat.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:31 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Do we expect a lot of people to get shot tonight?
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:02 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:51 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:49 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 pm
Creature wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 pm

Epignosis then?
Fine with me. I'm not bad, but there's no way I'm going to keep up with this.
I am awake and picking up where I left off last night. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine for trying reverse pysychology, and a revenge vote on Hyena. Looking at the poll, I anticipate my vote may change during the next 600 posts of catching up.
LIke, why say the last part? Wolves so often feel the need to tack on additional information about hwo they are going to vote.
I mention not being caught up because I want to be transparent about the state of my mind, and I see the need for transparency since the original votes on Epignosis have gone elsewhere, and I have not. I had hoped to avoid ill-considered cases on me. Judge for yourself how successful that was. :pout:
112 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:37 am actually, let's just cut off the infected part while it's early.

[VOTE: Elephant] aubergine
You have no case and no investigation, merely pressure. Why do you do it?

Unfortunately I can't find any more votes in that "expand view" feature, although I know iaafr was just sheeping 112, and Nanook seems to have a blank vote. I'll go back to catching up until someone actually quotes or mentions me, ok?
Yeah, all fair.

This wasn't directed at me but I think votes for merely pressure are acceptable strategies.
I do not understand how mere pressure is a strategy if it has no goal. If there is no goal, how can you have a strategy?
A blank vote says, "I scumread this person, but I do not want to investigate them, engage them, or convince anyone else, and while I feel this scum read is important, I will not share my thought process". It is like playing the game and not playing it, simultaneously.
For me, one of the goals is to simply see how they respond to the burden of having votes. Sometimes wolves start acting differently under the pressure and uncertainty of blank votes.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:09 am
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Re: I am the Elephant.

Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:57 am @Benson @Master Radishes
Could you please give me your opinions on iaafr and 112? I have read up to 1500, and you seem connected. It has also caught my attention that three of you have recently voted me, and from the 1500 mindset, this occurence feels strange.
iaarf - probably the solviest and most helpful player in the game right now. I love his insights. He better be town.

Master Radishes - I recall him having some decently genuine reads (mostly regarding me). But he stays put in the neutral category until further notice.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:17 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

juliets wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:49 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:43 pm im just always baffled when i get tunneled like this because i hardly see any scum with a playstyle that matches my towngame and i feel like ive been mostly transparent with most of my thoughts and my confidence levels are shaky like theyre supposed to be and i clearly dont have tmi and wtf honestly

also no, i dont have a strong argument for why benson is town other than them feeling generally solvy and liking the posts i said i liked (their first readspost, their post saying they dont actually have a confident scumread on 112, their post saying they wouldnt be surprised if 112 came in townreading them tomorrow, etc)
Your first paragraph speaks to me. I don't think I've ever seen a scum style that matches your current style either. And I feel like you have been transparent, your thoughts are shaky (and ever changing) and I haven't seen anything I consider tmi. I'm ready to lean town on you, but I would appreciate anyone who has played with you a lot to comment on whether this paragraph rings true to them.

I also liked the same Benson posts that you mention here. Maybe their reads of each other when they are both town take a while to evolve in a game, I wouldn't know since I've never played with them. @Benson and [mention]112[mention] is this true or when you read each other town does it usually happen day 1 and on in games? Maybe one of them doesn't have to be scum which is what I was thinking when I signed off last night.
It depends. Lately it's been taking until day 2+ to start reading them properly. They both have strong wolf games and I'm cautious about giving town reads until they are fully deserved. 112 hasn't seen me wolf in quite a while but she ALWAYS calls me a villager by D1/D2, whether she's villa or wolf. MR is similar.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

ewwwwe Juliets you infected my post!!
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:18 am
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Dragomir wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:52 am I went to sleep last night with my girl being the leading wagon, now it's Elephant and Hyena. What happened?
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:21 am
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Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:53 am From my interaction with Master Radishes, where Benson butted in, I have Benson as town if Radishes is town, and Radishes leans town on me. @Master Radishes was not perfectly certain of Benson's alignment, but much in the past 12 hours has revolved around Benson. Nutella observed Benson and 112 scumreading each other, and somehow concluded that it probably made one of 112, Benson, and Radishes not town. If that is true, 112 is scum. Iaafr townread 112 and Benson, and scumread nutella, but iaafr's reads are very flexible, and iaafr also has very high confidence in Benson, and I am suspicious of that. I can see iaafr as scum in this constellation. Epignosis had a slow start, and asserted more authority later on, townreading nutella and attacking iaafr's scumread of her. Epignosis plays intransparently, and I can see that playstyle as a cover for powerwolfing; excepting six players from lynch today without accompanying town reads strikes me as a bold but efficient possibility to protect his wolf buddies.
Getting the puzzle of these six players to line up correctly establishes a much needed town core. My current layout is Benson, Master Radishes, and nutella as town, and 112, iaafr, and Epignosis as uncertain scum. I need to research 112, a lot depends on them.

I also have Juliets, Hyena, and Creature as provisional town, but don't see them as connected as the others. I would love to see @Hyena and @Creature evaluate each other directly.
This is good for now and I'm probably switching my vote soon.
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Dragomir wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:19 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:18 am
Dragomir wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:52 am I went to sleep last night with my girl being the leading wagon, now it's Elephant and Hyena. What happened?
What?
"my girl"? lol
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:35 am
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Creature wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:14 am
vanity. wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:39 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:36 pm
vanity. wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:34 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:33 pm
Hyena wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:32 pm
vanity. wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:15 pm i'm probably going to get questions about my nanook read so i'll just explain that now



nanook instantly pushing lld in this post reads to me as "i've been burned by this person bad and i want to lynch them out of paranoia" to me. it's like a classic v thought process in my opinion. now, he has a good wolf game and i wouldn't take this to the grave, but i think it was enough to give him a townread, especially since no one else v read him.
I'm calling Vanity lock town for this post and, like, 5-10 of the posts he made before this one.
Vanity is the towniest town in this game, and I hope we're all in agreement on this.
...am i? am i just this easy of a read?

i feel like nothing i've done is outside of my wolfrange but... k.
To be fair, I've not seen your scum game. But I read you in G7 (you died as I subbed in) and watched you in in WC1, and you play this game similarly to how I do. Everything I see from you so far has been so pure, IMO.

How would you describe your wolf range, then?
my wolf range, huh...

while i haven't wolfed on forum before, and this game is another non-turbo village game from me, because randing wolf is impossible for some reason, but i'm the powerwolf type. a lot of people that know me from dm wouldn't give v reads on me this early, because they know i can give compelling thoughts on the game as a wolf.

i'd post around the same as either alignment. if i'm in the thread, i'm posting. that's all there really is to it. if you think i'm pure, cool. i don't think you're a wolf at the moment, so i'm comfortable with this.
This feels pure although I haven't really read it.
I was reading your posts as I caught up and some come across vapid and like you're posting for the sake of increasing your post count. But I do struggle to find wolfy intentions behind the post I've quoted. Almost seems too careless to be from a wolf, unless it's deliberate.
There isn't gonna be a question here but you're on notice.
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:40 am
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:16 am Okay people shouldn’t be voting for the elephant anymore.
True.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime ] aubergine
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:43 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:40 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:16 am Okay people shouldn’t be voting for the elephant anymore.
True.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime ] aubergine
Good choice much better
You won't trick me with the reverse psychology :goofp:
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:49 am
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Re: I am the Elephant.

Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:45 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:09 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:57 am @Benson @Master Radishes
Could you please give me your opinions on iaafr and 112? I have read up to 1500, and you seem connected. It has also caught my attention that three of you have recently voted me, and from the 1500 mindset, this occurence feels strange.
iaarf - probably the solviest and most helpful player in the game right now. I love his insights. He better be town.

Master Radishes - I recall him having some decently genuine reads (mostly regarding me). But he stays put in the neutral category until further notice.
Thank you. I did not see your opinion on 112, should I have looked more?
Lol I was super groggy when I responded and thought you were asking for MR not 112.

Here you go:
112 remains a wolf lean for me until she actually picks up here game. Not a single post so far is outside her wolf meta.
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:49 am
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Re: I am the Elephant.

Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:49 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:45 am
Benson wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:09 am
Elephant wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:57 am @Benson @Master Radishes
Could you please give me your opinions on iaafr and 112? I have read up to 1500, and you seem connected. It has also caught my attention that three of you have recently voted me, and from the 1500 mindset, this occurence feels strange.
iaarf - probably the solviest and most helpful player in the game right now. I love his insights. He better be town.

Master Radishes - I recall him having some decently genuine reads (mostly regarding me). But he stays put in the neutral category until further notice.
Thank you. I did not see your opinion on 112, should I have looked more?
Lol I was super groggy when I responded and thought you were asking for MR not 112.

Here you go:
112 remains a wolf lean for me until she actually picks up here game. Not a single post so far is outside her wolf meta.
*range would be more appropriate to say than meta in the last part
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Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 am
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Someone really familiar with TonyStark should give me a summary of how his current game compares to his town meta.
by Benson
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:43 pm
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[mention]Evenstar[/mention] why is Spiny a town read for you?

Nice chart. I think you missed MR though

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