The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:13 pm Okay, some setup stuff. There is a vig, it's some kind of skrewt animal.

Also someone needs to Pheonix Down TH if they can. Thanks.

I wouldn’t be opposed to this. If the people who can rez use it right away on confirmed townies we can ensure their ability isn’t wasted and keep frustrating the scum with numbers/confirmed civs

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:22 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:13 pm Okay, some setup stuff. There is a vig, it's some kind of skrewt animal.

Also someone needs to Pheonix Down TH if they can. Thanks.
I wouldn’t be opposed to this. If the people who can rez use it right away on confirmed townies we can ensure their ability isn’t wasted and keep frustrating the scum with numbers/confirmed civs

I URGE whomever has this ability to use it before you get snuffed. Speed likely didn’t if he made the above post so we have good chances of sticking it back to the scum (albeit temporarily).

Also, nice whoever got nova. I went out of my way to reference him for convoluted scum-hunting reasons in case he got replaced, but I’m glad I don’t have to do that now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:54 pm Unfortunately it might be difficult to find any useful interactive content about a dead mafioso who made no posts. I'll take a looksie.

You’ll find me opposing his lynch. Whoops!

Spoiler: show

for aforementioned wagon-related rustling.

Fuck, [VOTE: BULLZEYE] aubergine. I’m not even drunk.

I kept Jay alive the whole way through Easter Mafia when I was scum. It was not ideal, but everyone should try it at least once.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:03 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:09 am Ope, I found it! (am I allowed to post a quote from another game?)
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:29 pm There's a specific way in which Quin disagrees with literally everyone... and how he doesn't give a crap... usually, I see that from town Quin, with a certain belligerently honest tone to it. That's one of the secrets of my quindar. That's a bit of what genuquin means.
...wait. Quin's in Ravenclaw. I don't want to lynch someone in my house.
But Quin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Another example of Luna prioritizing House Cup over hunting. Can we call this the Yun Qui Tetll? If we're making up tells.

It may be a tell but I take umbrage with the notion that Yun Qui boofed the ship stuff especially hard. We all townread each other because of our actions and iirc the only scum there was TH who really fooled everyone.

I’m just saying I spent most of October away from alcohol due to medical concerns so, if some boofing happens this weekend, then so be it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:30 am Hnnnnn rez please

I cannot emphasize this enough. Use your damn rezzes on TH or Speed while you’re still here.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:43 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:33 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:29 am
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DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:27 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:22 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:20 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:18 am

I'm voting for Quin anyways. How is that prioritizing House Cup points over hunting?
Voting for and trying to lynch are two different issues.
Really? Because I don't vote someone if I'm not trying to lynch them. DH, what's your opinion on Quin?
On the whole I liked his D1 play, having just now read into his D2 stuff, I don't feel great about his JC post which he essentially admitted was trash, and he backed off of it pretty easily/quickly. I don't see anything "bad" from him, though.
Thanks for your input. If you had to point out scum to lynch right now, who's your GTH vote?
I'm moderately pinged by you, but I feel strongly that Owner's obsession w/ me D1 and her squirrely-ness with answering questions are good indications that she's bad. So if this was Outpost mafia and I had the flamethrower, it'd be Extra Crispy time up in here real quick.

That being said I'll have a firmer grasp of the game tomorrow when I do my Re-ISOing, and probably walk away from that with something better than a GTH, or in your case a "moderate ping".
I'm glad this game bases lynches on the majority vote instead of one person with a flamethrower. You and Owner did have a lot of back-and-forth, and I see why you suspect her. But I'm starting to think if she were scum she wouldn't have been so blatant with her accusations of you. Just a though. I feel like scum are mostly laying low right now, and I don't think we're on the right trail.

If we’re not on the right trail why did you voice support of Bullzeye’s lynch?

I’ve spoken to my motivation regarding keeping Nova alive last phase although it escapes me whether or not I did so in detail. Basically I know there are some good players on the replacements list so I wanted to see if scum would treat the slot as they did in Fire Emblem, where rabbit was killed N1 so that speed wouldn’t replace in as a towny. We’d just discussed this in Outpost a few days ago so it was fresh on my mind. If the night passed with nova alive it would have roused my suspicions considerably. Although the vig choice is perplexing and should probably be examined. I’m sure this sounds made up but I don’t care.

Targeting an inactive to me seems like a dice roll. If I were a vig I’d go after people that had earned my suspicion.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:37 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:33 am Targeting an inactive to me seems like a dice roll. If I were a vig I’d go after people that had earned my suspicion.
Okay, if you had a vig kill, who would you have targeted?

Bullzeye, JaggedJimmyJay, Owner

In all likelihood though I probably would hesitate to use my vig power until my reads can be refined. I don’t think I ever have been a vig but that’s one where you can really fuck some stuff up.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:03 pm I apologize if this has been litigated and I missed it (if so please point it out) but:

1. In Firefly Mafia, Owner scum read me in part based on a "Picture Tell" in which she said I subconciously associated with Negan and Thanos, two bad characters. Therefore I must be bad.

2. In this game, Owner scum read Kara based on a picture tell of Kara posting a Hagrid-themed comic strip. Hagrid is a good guy.

My point being, if in Firefly Owner (civ) Genuinely suspected me (civ) for being Negan/Thanos (bad dudes) that's fine because as wrong as it was, it tracks and makes sense if you accept the "Picture Tell" premise. If you accept that same premise and apply it to her Kara suspicion, its fake. She fabricated a reason to suspect Kara and the only reason to do that is if you're bad and need people to suspect.

Slam. Dunk.

Was that Picture Tell based on the characters being good or bad? If so I’d say, add this to the pile for reasons why an Owner lynch is a good proposition.

Well, that’s what the first part of the post qualifies. I don’t recall the Picture Tell being described in such a way by Owner but if it is then DH can get receipts.

Does this Bullzeye wagon feel too easy to everybody else? No major pushback, getting votes piled up, meanwhile Owner suspicion has died off after a million posts and it still doesn’t sit right with me. Let’s make it a contest.

[VOTE: OWNER] aubergine

I have a hard time reading INH. His town and scum games are remarkably similar and I could see him being either at this point. So don’t ask me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:04 pm Does this Bullzeye wagon feel too easy to everybody else? No major pushback, getting votes piled up, meanwhile Owner suspicion has died off after a million posts and it still doesn’t sit right with me. Let’s make it a contest.

[VOTE: OWNER] aubergine
What manner of major pushback would you expect to see on a wagon for Bullzeye?

Defending him via reputation or meta, spreading his defense of his own vote, pushing another target as an alternative. Juliets (?) might have said she didn’t think it looked scummy but it just feels too easy y’know.

Calling it the Yun Qui tell is offensive to my heritage

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:28 pm I find it funny when people say things like "Bullzeye is getting set up for a lazy lynch" or "this wagon feels too easy" more than 24 hours out from the actual lynch. Heaps scrote behaviours.

I forgot when this phase ended tbh

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:09 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:03 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:54 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:28 amKylemii Nice to be playing with you again! We’ve never quite connected in any game we’ve played previously so this might be the first. Tell me, what do you think of Quin?
hello!

quin is taking a more active approach to this game than I'm used to seeing him take, in the sort of jabby punch way that he does, which on the surface level looks good to me.

wbu?
I’d say that is a remarkably accurate assessment of his contributions so far. I’d be more cautious than you however in jumping to any conclusion about that suggesting that he is ‘good’. Having said that, I’m not sure that my meta/tonal reads even apply here anymore - as I alluded to this morning, things seem very different here now than they were when I used to play. Take Epi for example - I don’t remember him ever being so low key as he appears this game. I was thinking that looked a little out of the ordinary but maybe he’s changed his approach?
It's called "work is a cluster." Over 25 teachers out for the second day in a row.

While the police and principal were investigating a freshman who apparently had weed on him, a group of seniors tried to hijack and race their golf carts.

Dude, badass

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:06 pm My thoughts on Bullz - I already didn't feel great about his D1 activity and his explanation of it makes me feel worse about it (The game starts D1 fam so play starts D1) that being said The zeroing in on him RE: Nova strikes me as false. I feel like there is an element within that mob that isn't genuine. I'll have to dig into that tomorrow.

I definitely don’t like the Nova vote — I can sorta see a civ making it, but I wish he would tell us who he would rather lynch today.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:25 pm I changed my vote to Colin for now.

I wouldn’t mind getting lynched tbh. Confirm me as civ then rezz me. Have I mentioned that people with rezzes should use them?

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:56 pm Also, the logic I'm using is not foolproof at all, it isn't technically information based, so I'm not saying this in a "follow me, my people" way. I'm making too many assumptions to push for people to follow me, but that's where I'm at. I think bullz is CIV.

Bookmarking this in case you haven’t explained by the time I catch up

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:10 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:47 pm If 3J is bad some heavy interference has been ran by his teammates today.
Name them.

*waves sand dramatically*

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*sneers*

No.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:06 pm If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.
Colin, I've some questions.

First post: you say a thing which offers no real insight on the game at hand unless I am bad, and even if I am, it's still vague and nothing. Jack gave you a chance to make it better than vague and nothing, and you declined.

Second post: no shit? TH and Owner are the two primary wagons. If TH flips good, it doesn't make Owner good -- duh. If Owner is bad, maybe her counterwagon is problematic -- duh. What are you adding to the dialogue with these posts?

Sometimes I just say things.

And that is a serious answer, not me trying to be a dick ... if I think an observation is worth mentioning to town I’ll put it on record. Those posts are both signals of “hey, don’t forget this if it comes down to it.”

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:08 pm @karavalenge @DharmaHelper @ColinIsCool seeing as how Owner requested to be replaced, does that change your stance on wanting her lynched? There are better trains to jump on today. Just saying.

I wasn’t here most of yesterday, but no, it doesn’t (didn’t).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:30 pm juliets is a tough nut to crack. I am sensing something wrong, but I cannot readily describe what it is.

She seems a little more interested in defending herself than I remember.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm A fond EOD letter from JaggedJimmyJay to you,

Hello, dear friend. It would appear that you and I are once again engaged in Mafia combat (or perhaps this is the first time? Well met!) As the game is played, so must we turn hateful eyes against one another, and lose our humanity in a mindless bloodbath all for the sake of brief psychological stimulation. Please, friend, understand that no matter how cruel I sound, or how arrogant my words, or how distant my emotion -- I love you. I have since the start. The world has funneled us into this bizarre electronic communication arena wherein we may exercise our like passions in concert. It is a beautiful opportunity, and I am forever grateful to share it with you.

It may have more to do with the alcohol I drank last night, but while reading this post my head and chest got that rollercoaster-flying-maybe-about-to-puke feeling and it still hasn’t stopped.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm For the remainder of the game:

ColinIsCool = Cornelius
DharmaHelper = Dennis
insertnamehere = Isaiah
Kylemii = Kevin

Bullzeye = Bucky
Epignosis = Earnest
Glorfindel = Georgio
Sloonei = Stanley
poutanko = Penelope

juliets = Janet
Long Con = Lorenzo
Lunalee = Lisa
MacDougall = Mark
nutella = Nancy
Quin = Qasim

Jackofhearts2005 = Jordan
karavalenge = Karen
sprityo = Sid
timmer = Theodore

But ... my name is my name ... and it exists in HP canon

Okay, now that I’m caught up, USE THE FUCKING REZZES TONIGHT

Damn, whoever the vig is has been killing it.

Rezzers, though ... c’mon. We talked about this.

So I don’t know if I’ll have time to do it but a good game to look at scum INH for may be U-Pick. He wasn’t terribly active there but we may be able to gleam how he treated teammates there/other parallels.

Context: INH and Elo are teammates. Provides a wishy-washy non-read but steers away from her lynch.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 3:32 pm OK, now I'm "caught up" on whatever this game is. As I said earlier, Daisy seems genuine to me, and the case against her feels weeeak. Elo is someone who I find damn hard to read, and I'm not sure whether I should trust the people who say she's betraying her town meta or the people who say she's fitting into her town meta. Prolly not gonna vote for her. I might just help Marmot or Epi fulfill their dreams of being lynched. It's nice to try and help someone with a vote instead of hurting them.

Teammates with Lilefer; similar non-read:

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:41 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:27 pm I must be off for the night but I'll pop in later. [VOTE: INH] aubergine

I gave my reasoning for this earlier, don't plan to leave my vote here but who knows?

@insertnamehere Can you explain your votes?

Do you have a specific quibble with the reasonings I gave for my votes, or is it just that you think context makes them look bad? I already explained my votes, and I'm happy to detail my reasoning further, but if people think that the context of the game trumps and inherent value my reasoning might have, there's not a lot I can say.

Three people had a bunch of votes on Day 2: Lilfer, Kyle, and Sprit. I thought Kyle seemed genuine, and I didn't really have strong feelings about the other two, so I randomized and got Sprit.

For Day 4, I thought Stumpignosis' case against Lapluie made sense.

There is another post where he comments on a point Elo makes. Extremely limited sample size, but INH appeared to avoid committing to thoughts on his teammates there and did not attempt to distance by pointing out scummy behavior from them; rather he built or supported cases against people he knew not to be on his team.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:28 pm Gryffindor won the House Cup again on Day/Night2 (yep, just like the books).

@ColinIsCool
@DharmaHelper
@JaggedJimmyJay

Pick an item. Remember you can't pick the same item as yesterday.

Elite

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:48 am @ColinIsCool, as this day phase began you provided a few examples of mafia-INH from past games to describe his treatment of his teammates. I'd like to see how you apply that information to the present game.

Unfortunately I didn’t find anything that excited me. It’s tough to say whether he was bussing or not too because the UPick game didn’t see him have to. Ultimately a null exercise.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:59 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:56 am Okay, now that I’m caught up, USE THE FUCKING REZZES TONIGHT
Not to piss in the lemonade here but would the lack of rezzes indicate either nobody has any, whoever does have them died, or whoever does have them is inactive/bad?

Yikes fam.

May be that way.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:52 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:46 pm to answer your question, I'd say Glorfindel, poutanko, Quin, and maybe Colin

It’s that “maybe,” isn’t it? Always the “maybe.”

[VOTE: JACK] aubergine. Like the cases made and I have been convinced to re-evaluate the case on Sloonei.

Hypothetically assuming I used a Niffler, is it pro-town to share the results? Please weigh in on this and thank you.

I’m sketched by Mac this game. Exactly the same as his Hydra scum game where he didn’t show up. He has no fire and it’s hard to think he believes anything he says.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:45 pm I’m sketched by Mac this game. Exactly the same as his Hydra scum game where he didn’t show up. He has no fire and it’s hard to think he believes anything he says.
What a load of garbo. This is pure omgus.

Nah, I’ve been consistent on this the whole game buddy.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:03 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:49 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:45 pm I’m sketched by Mac this game. Exactly the same as his Hydra scum game where he didn’t show up. He has no fire and it’s hard to think he believes anything he says.
What a load of garbo. This is pure omgus.
Nah, I’ve been consistent on this the whole game buddy.
So you just waited til I vote you to say it. Okay.

No ... what I just said was that I’ve been saying it?

I think there are better lynch candidates though. I would like to see Mac do more than flail in self defense.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:05 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:51 pm Good:
Epignosis
timmer
DH
INH
Poutanko
Quin
Karavalenge
Jack

Wary:
Kyle
Glorf
Juliets
Long Con
Lunalee
Speedchuck

Shit List:
JJJ
Bullzeye
Owner
Soneji
Mac
Nutella

N/A:
lapluie
Nova
Oh behave I haven't even been paying attention to the game.
That’s what rustles my jimmies.
Consistent this whole game = this?

Yeah you've been a veritable tour de force Colin.

Okay.

I’ll reiterate, to anybody who wants to lynch me ... go ahead. Just give me that Phoenix right afterward.

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