The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:47 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:11 am Not to make everything about me but I am pretty pinged by the moment everybody moved off me and jumped onto Mac or whatever. Feels fishy, independent of Mac’s flip

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:13 am although I guess “everybody” just means NANOOK and Dom, I don’t remember if there were more.

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I wasn't around when it happened, but it felt like it all just vanished and quickly. I didn't even do anything to address the concerns people had of me other than say I was leaving the thread for a while so I don't see why people would have moved their votes off of me if they truly think I'm a bad dude

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 pm G-Man oompa-loomping for no reason has zero bearing on his alignment. I find it rather consistent with his Day 1 actually, where he was a Cranky Butt about the pace of the game. When not having fun, make your own fun.

I'm inclined to agree with this. Haven't decided which wagon I'm jumping on cause I guess Tony won't take but I think we can do better than G-Man

Yeah I think I'm going to follow my \ gut and go [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine.

Would lynch based on Radishes flip: sabie, Jack

Would not lynch based on Radishes flip: Sloonei, Jay, Mac

I’m leery of Dom. A lot of his posts seem to be making points/arguments that expose someone’s bad logic but are not actual scumhunting. This in tandem with his tendency to just say “you’re scum” to people, in place of a crafted argument, gives me heeby jeebies. It is entirely possible I’m projecting because I butted heads with him so I’d like others to check him out.

Basically I’m mindmelding pretty hard with the rainbow list Mac made earlier this phase. The biggest exception is that I don’t scumread sprit, BUT ... Mac is historically great at reading sprit and I think they both would say that so there might be merit there.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:28 pm Would lynch based on Radishes flip: sabie, Jack

Would not lynch based on Radishes flip: Sloonei, Jay, Mac

I’m leery of Dom. A lot of his posts seem to be making points/arguments that expose someone’s bad logic but are not actual scumhunting. This in tandem with his tendency to just say “you’re scum” to people, in place of a crafted argument, gives me heeby jeebies. It is entirely possible I’m projecting because I butted heads with him so I’d like others to check him out.

BTW I fully expect Dom to say that he hasn’t said the words “you’re scum” in this game or whatever but I think you know what I mean.

Still have no reason to townread Tony btw

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:49 pmhe has a hulk

Don’t expect a lot from me today, I’m helping watch an adorable baby while his parents are at work. Might fuck around and do fancy stuff tomorrow

Catching up ...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:08 pm I missed out on the fun last time around.

Spoiler: show

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:05 am Hey svs! it's been awhile since we've been in a game together.
I see the votes on jack and I'm not sure. I thought i had a good idea of Jack's gameplay but I've been wrong a couple times. I feel like he tries really hard to blend in and look civ when he's bad and has been a more aggressive and jokey player when civ. He accused nutella in another game and ended up getting mislynched early on and was right about her. Nutella can be difficult to read at times but I have been able to read her correctly before. When I have more time later I'll have to read through their ISOs

Nanook was bad last game I played in and he was good at seeming like a civilian for awhile. I actually only started suspecting him towards the end. I haven't had a chance to look over his civ gameplay style to see if it is similar.
I saw JJJ put me in the bottom part of the reads when I haven't even done anything yet or is it because I haven't done anything yet? I didn't even know the game had started and it's a lot to catch up on. I'm not super talkative in the beginning of games sometimes but I'm trying to get better at it.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:20 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:05 am Hey svs! it's been awhile since we've been in a game together.
I see the votes on jack and I'm not sure. I thought i had a good idea of Jack's gameplay but I've been wrong a couple times. I feel like he tries really hard to blend in and look civ when he's bad and has been a more aggressive and jokey player when civ. He accused nutella in another game and ended up getting mislynched early on and was right about her. Nutella can be difficult to read at times but I have been able to read her correctly before. When I have more time later I'll have to read through their ISOs

Nanook was bad last game I played in and he was good at seeming like a civilian for awhile. I actually only started suspecting him towards the end. I haven't had a chance to look over his civ gameplay style to see if it is similar.
I saw JJJ put me in the bottom part of the reads when I haven't even done anything yet or is it because I haven't done anything yet? I didn't even know the game had started and it's a lot to catch up on. I'm not super talkative in the beginning of games sometimes but I'm trying to get better at it.

Sabie Sabie. I didn’t get mislynched. I can even physically be mislynched.

I gathered a few votes and then told Nutella she better shoot me and claim the mafia was trying to frame her, which is exactly what she did.

I’ve correctly read Nutella like 8 games running on D1. She’s a baddie.

Oh right yeah sorry it was tony who also suspected nutella that game that got mislynched. Then I told everyone hey maybe they were right about nutella and she ended up being bad. Point is this seemed like a similar situation.



I'm heading home from work now and I'll catch up on what's been happening the last 8 hours. Haven't had a chance to read everything yet.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:47 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:40 am In looking through speedchucks ISO there really isn't much there. When he discussed the jack nutella dynamic he just says it was interesting which is a way to kind of seem involved and respond to what's going on without really putting in his own perspective or response to it. He hasn't really seemed like he's trying to figure things out or anything.

I guess I'm not surprised jack is kind of changing what he said before about nutella. It seems as though he is trying to see how people react to his accusations and I know he can be tricky like that. I don't see it as a bad look for jack right now. I don't know if it necessarily changes my feeling on nutella but I'm curious to see what her response is to that.

Can you elaborate on your feelings on Nutella?

I saw you basically be like "Jack is good at reading Nutella" but I didn't see much in the way of what you independently think about her, given the posts I'm missing.

Sure so I'm not always as good at reading nutella as you claim to be. I thought she seemed similar this game to how she was in the Australian game with her responses to being suspected. I recall she strongly defended herself and threw suspicions in all other directions to see if it would stick. I thought that was kind of how she was reacting here. I think I've mostly seen nutella be mafia or indie in the last few games I've played with her though so that's what I'm used to seeing.

sabie mentioned Jack and interacted with Jack a butt load of times (there are others; I'm not quoting everything), and she made sure to talk about other people in the same breath. That's the same phenomenon JJJ pointed out regarding her treatment of Radishes.

[VOTE: JackofHearts2005] aubergine

“LIKE!”

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:45 pm I pulled up these two posts to respond to them but never did while I was catching up. A minor colin gripe:

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:28 pm Would lynch based on Radishes flip: sabie, Jack

Would not lynch based on Radishes flip: Sloonei, Jay, Mac

I’m leery of Dom. A lot of his posts seem to be making points/arguments that expose someone’s bad logic but are not actual scumhunting. This in tandem with his tendency to just say “you’re scum” to people, in place of a crafted argument, gives me heeby jeebies. It is entirely possible I’m projecting because I butted heads with him so I’d like others to check him out.

"Would not lynch" is language for a 1-scum-team game. It's forgivable if Colin simply reverted back to normal habits here, but the word choice caught my eye and I want to highlight it. I agree with the assessment that Jay and Mac (and me) are not likely to be on Radishes' team, but that's not the same as saying I "would not lynch" either of the other two. I probably won't vote to lynch myself today.

This is a good enough point that I wondered if I was, in fact, scum, but it’s just me being imprecise with language. What I should have said was “Based on how Radishes’ lynch went down, these are not his teammates” and not “would not lynch” because the latter implies an ultimate townread when in reality it’s not.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:07 am

I can’t remember the last time a post in a game made me laugh this hard.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:08 pm I think he's just surrendering. Which I believe he'd only do as wolf.

What?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:08 pm Does anyone have anything to say about Tranq's contributions? They seem like your common scum slank style play.

Agreed

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:05 pm Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.

I hate to tell you that this isn't true.


But he's saying what my point against Colin has been from day 1. Colin's participation only increases when his team tells him he's in hot water.

I talk more when I have something to say.
When people are talking to me or asking me questions, I have more things to say.
I get it if people agree with you/Mac/etc but my activity is and forever will be NAI these days and a lot of y’all should know better.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:42 am Honestly I don’t even super buy the slip business, but....I also don’t mind sig dying today

This is where I’m at. Sig says stuff that makes no sense to me all the time. I think his Mac theorizing is more him getting carried away and going down that rabbit hole, than it is a genuine slip. But the interactive reports on Sabie and Radishes are compelling. Not opposed to his lynch.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:03 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:08 pm Does anyone have anything to say about Tranq's contributions? They seem like your common scum slank style play.

Agreed

Have you seen his baddie game? I have, often up close and personal.

This isn't it. This is more like his common town slank style play. He digs in end game when he's civ, he jumps in early moreso when he's bad.

This is fun watching the thread swing the opposite direction to last night. You guys

No, I don’t think I have. I can’t remember Tranq posting much at all in a game I’ve been in.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:18 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:04 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:05 pm Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.

I hate to tell you that this isn't true.


But he's saying what my point against Colin has been from day 1. Colin's participation only increases when his team tells him he's in hot water.

I talk more when I have something to say.
When people are talking to me or asking me questions, I have more things to say.
I get it if people agree with you/Mac/etc but my activity is and forever will be NAI these days and a lot of y’all should know better.

What’s the single most compelling point about either sig or mac that you have seen?

For sig it is the interactive read that I think you made re: him and sabie.

For Mac, I don’t think I’ve been persuaded by any point yet. It’s true that he’s mostly been extremely defensive up to this point but I don’t think that’s indicative of scum Mac. TBH if I had to pick something it would be him buddying me early on and seemingly changing his mind on me as a possible deflection, but. I don’t want to lynch Mac.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:29 pm I've had a suspicion of Sig since D1, before the whole slip biz. I really don't care much whether he or Mac get sacked first.

What’s your beef with Mac based on?

I guess that question (why Mac?) is for the thread if anybody else wants to share.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:45 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:33 pm I guess that question (why Mac?) is for the thread if anybody else wants to share.

1) Mac has flipped his reads with zero progression
2) Sig accidentally claimed a failed nightkill on Mac, who would not have been protected by the town, pointing to Mac being the bulletproof wolf on the Master’s team.
3) Several players are defending Mac or pressing for alternative lynched to Mac. If Mac is a wolf, he has three teammates.

If I had to rank these I would say 2 > 1 > 3 as good reasons. In particular I don’t see why people defending Mac in and of itself makes him scummy. That’s operating as if Mac has been proven to be scum, in order to prove that he’s scum.

I feel good about most of the people on the sig wagon as well. Think I can [VOTE: sig] aubergine for now.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:53 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:04 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:05 pm Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.

I hate to tell you that this isn't true.


But he's saying what my point against Colin has been from day 1. Colin's participation only increases when his team tells him he's in hot water.

I talk more when I have something to say.
When people are talking to me or asking me questions, I have more things to say.
I get it if people agree with you/Mac/etc but my activity is and forever will be NAI these days and a lot of y’all should know better.

It's not your activity level.
It's how conveniently timed it is.

There is nothing I can say or do as a defense here, other than flipping green. If I am killed because of my "timing," well then shucks.

Well, I didn’t see that coming.

I skipped over some stuff to check in, but I’ll be limited throughout the night phase so I might not post again during it just so y’all know.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:28 pm The absolute scenes when Mac/Sig join forces against the real enemy.

Fun!

@all

Let's have a trustfall exclusively for Jack. Do more people if you want, but I'm asking about Jack. What's the best argument that he is a civilian?

That emotional outburst of his at the beginning of the game.

I have wavered on it some as evidence has linked him to radishes/sabie. The emotion could have been a result of having a genuine suspicion as scum in a multiball game, but being suspected for it anyway.

I am almost positive Jack had a similar emotional outburst (against Glorfindel?) in a game where he turned out to be scum. Almost positive, maybe somebody else remembers? So I don’t think it points to him as town at all.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:25 pm I'm not bad by the way, I just have no idea what I'm doing

Hey that’s my line

My evals of people in the thread as requested by SVS:

Dom - I thought Dom was faking townie play for a while but it might just be that I don’t share his style. I do think SVS has a point re: emotion in this particular case so I lean town here.

Epignosis - I’ve felt Epi was town in every game I’ve played with him almost and I feel he is here too

Jackofhearts2005 - I like Jack personally but I kinda want him to die, there are bits and pieces in my ISO that illustrate what pings me, along with a general yucky feeling in my tummy

Nanook - if anyone is a candidate for so-town-they’re-scum it’s him but I don’t have any other argument than that, so nah

sprityo - I guess I could see this, based on the case TH has made most recently.

tedxtr - strongly felt this guy was town for a while

Turnip Head - I haven’t personally seen it, feels like town Turbup to me, but if I review anyone’s ISO they’re first in line to try and see what y’all are getting at.

So yeah I don’t really have anybody I strongly suspect in this pool other than Jack and I don’t see that happening. Tbh I’ll be surprised if I don’t get lynched today, I hard defended Mac and got fooled, so I get it if that’s what it comes to.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:18 am

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 am TH-- you're engagement with ME has been in bad faith. You say you like to civ mind meld. You read me as civ and then promptly ignored me all game.

True, and I'm sorry. I have a habit of not answering questions I don't feel like answering. But if you can't see why I'd behave like that as townie, you're the one with bad faith in me, tehehe

Nothing resonates more with my townie mindset than "not answering questions I don't feel like answering". Could it be ... a mindmeld?

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:33 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:01 am Turnip Head - I haven’t personally seen it, feels like town Turbup to me, but if I review anyone’s ISO they’re first in line to try and see what y’all are getting at.

What the hell is this?

"Turnip Head" = Turbup Head

"I haven't personally seen it" = I don't get the suspicion that other people in the game carry of them. By and large, Turbup's play seems to be townie Turbup, to me.

"but if I review anyone’s ISO they’re first in line to try and see what y’all are getting at." = even for a (technically) unemployed person I'm busy and don't really have the time to do ISOs like back in the day, however, if I can sit down and check this shit out for a minute, I will look at Turbup's. (And I have time, so, I will!)

Barely-an-ISO ISO (there's only 4 pages there and most posts are one liners so I invite you to also check it out)

The overarching difficulty with evaluating TH is that, according to them, they say less than they think. I would characterize this as in line with their town play as much as scum. TH is a hard player to nail down meta-wise so I largely won't be doing that.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:39 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:10 am Actually, all your words are washing over me. I'm taking nothing in.

One time on my home forum I spent the entire first round just gif-posting a handful of times and not engaging in the game at all because I was busy. I got myself mislynched D1. But before I went, I made a final serious post in which I named the entire scum team.

Sometimes looking at something from the corner of your eye allows you to see more. /deep thoughts

Scum tbqh

For example, this doesn't do much for me either way, it's literally just two words and then an ensuing vote later on. The Radishes suspicion carries on all the way through the first page and while he is not their top suspect (that was apparently Michelle) it's not hastily thrown out or anything like that. In fact, TH is pretty steadily banging the drum against Radishes in a way that doesn't seem like teammate distancing to me.

On the flip side, sabie:

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:46 pm The things you point out about sabie are the same things that make me lean town on her lol. She seems, idk, off the cuff

This is far from the first post defending her, and it's the polar opposite of the treatment for MR. That's certainly possible, but consider this: if you had to guess which player (Master Radishes or sabie) would be more likely to be lynched in any given Mafia game, who would you pick? I think most of us would pick sabie, and that's not meant in any negative way; she just has a playstyle, maybe similar to my own, that draws a lot of heat. So I'm not sure why scum-TH would make the calculation that MR is better to bus than sabie if they are all on the same team. If this doesn't make sense then let me know and I'll try to clarify.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:45 am

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Mac is town, this quote is exhibit A

Hard defense of Mac, one which continues further down the thread. I also hard defended Mac so I can't hold it against them.

Throughout TH's ISO I find myself agreeing with them more often than not, and I don't have anything that I can say is especially scummy.

If there's a case that's been made against TH, I read it and forgot about it, so please refer me to it and I'll check it out as well. On my own reading, I slot them as not on Radishes' and sabie's team and I have no reason to think they're on Mac's from their own posts.

Since they are the other person getting votes, I will try to check out sprit next.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:22 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:26 pm Hard defense of Mac, one which continues further down the thread. I also hard defended Mac so I can't hold it against them.

Throughout TH's ISO I find myself agreeing with them more often than not, and I don't have anything that I can say is especially scummy.

You wanna make sure nobody feels like you’re a hypocrite or you wanna catch wolves? Cause I bet if we don’t find fault in anyone defending Mac just because at least one townie did so, we’re gonna have a hard time finding his partners.

What exactly are you agreeing with in TH’s iso? Like you said, he’s defended wolves would much explanation.

What are you talking about?

I don’t think defending Mac makes you scummy. I agreed with them on that, as well as on Radishes and a few other stray assessments I don’t remember right now.

What part of this is confusing?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:06 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:05 pm I'm surprised Colin is willing to give such a decisive read of me, especially after I fooled him so thoroughly (and lovingly!) In Firefly

What does that tell you about his alignment?

That he likes me

I do

Real talk I just don’t see the scumread with any justification other than tinfoily “yeah but maybe they’re scum” ... and that’s a bad reason to lynch somebody

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:30 am GtH tedextr civ or scum? @ColinIsCool @Dom @Epignosis @Jackofhearts2005 @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @sprityo @s~v~s @Dyslexicon

Civ

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:27 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:22 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:26 pm Hard defense of Mac, one which continues further down the thread. I also hard defended Mac so I can't hold it against them.

Throughout TH's ISO I find myself agreeing with them more often than not, and I don't have anything that I can say is especially scummy.

You wanna make sure nobody feels like you’re a hypocrite or you wanna catch wolves? Cause I bet if we don’t find fault in anyone defending Mac just because at least one townie did so, we’re gonna have a hard time finding his partners.

What exactly are you agreeing with in TH’s iso? Like you said, he’s defended wolves would much explanation.

What are you talking about?

I don’t think defending Mac makes you scummy. I agreed with them on that, as well as on Radishes and a few other stray assessments I don’t remember right now.

What part of this is confusing?

“I hard defended Mac so I can’t held it against him.”

Yes you fucking can. You must.

Let me rephrase because I don’t think you’re getting it. I don’t think TH defending Mac was or looked scummy.

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

Dizzy’s post also sealed the deal for me.

Sorry I haven’t been on in a little bit, lot of hectic stuff going on.

Kinda wanna vote Jay tbh, Dom’s most recent points are resonating with me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:00 am Colin voted Radishes D2 and sig D3. He's the clearest Master team suspect purely by voting pattern.

Go ahead and vote for me then

Voting [VOTE: Jay] aubergine for now, btw

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @Epignosis @Michelle @Sloonei @speedchuck @Tranq @Dom @TonyStarkPrime @juliets @ColinIsCool

Does anyone townread TH? He seems to be the most consensus suspect and I would rather agree to focus elsewhere and lynch him via secret ballot if there's no way he's escaping lynch anyway.

So speak now so we can organize this.

I do, I did an ISO a while back and walked away satisfied. I don’t remember Jay’s ISO but I guess I should check it out if that’s what’s motivating most people

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:05 pm Colin hasn't shown up in two days.
Someone mentions his name and he's around instantly.

Dom I’m not even gonna engage with you anymore, vote for who you want dude.

Epi, I only see one part of that post I’m meant to respond to, so regarding the Michelle post, I found her reasoning to be very strange (“an independent can have ...”) as if awkwardly forcing a read.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:31 pm Colin, hi.

I meant to say above, if there are other things you’d like to talk about, shoot

Townread: Dom, Epignosis, juliets, Sloonei, ted, TH

Would lynch: G-Man, Jack, Jay, Michelle, speedchuck, Tony, Tranq

Willing to be persuaded otherwise

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:42 pm If you have the opportunity, pick two or three of those "Would lynch" people and talk about reasons. I think the biggest issue I have with you is that you don't elaborate.

That’s fair. I can do them all.

G-Man: I have no reason I can recall to assign civ credit to him so he’s there somewhat by default. I can easily see him being a low-posting scum letting others get their hands dirty

Jack: in general I have struggled to read Jack in every game I’ve played with him, but part of that is because he is really good (in my opinion) at having a consistent meta throughout. He reminds me in an eerie way of previous games where he fooled me; I realize as I type this that I’m describing a gut read.

Jay: Jay has seemed pretty off from what I’m used to and it very well could be “new Jay” but Dom had some posts in the last lynch that basically summarized the suspicion and I agree with them

Michelle: kinda reminds me of the pings I’ve gotten before from sabie, just struggling to relate to her in a way that makes me think “are we playing the same [town] game here?”

speedchuck: I know this guy has a baby but he’s also doing the G-Man thing. I can’t remember a single post of his where I’ve thought yeah this dude is town

Tony: in the posts you quote earlier there’s the bit about off-wagoning, that’s more or less the initial basis and then nothing else since then has made me think he’s town

Tranq: even quieter than G-Man! can’t trust that

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:44 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @Epignosis @Michelle @Sloonei @speedchuck @Tranq @Dom @TonyStarkPrime @juliets @ColinIsCool

Does anyone townread TH? He seems to be the most consensus suspect and I would rather agree to focus elsewhere and lynch him via secret ballot if there's no way he's escaping lynch anyway.

So speak now so we can organize this.

I do, I did an ISO a while back and walked away satisfied. I don’t remember Jay’s ISO but I guess I should check it out if that’s what’s motivating most people

Can you be more specific?

About which part. Being satisfied? I think we’ve talked about this before. I basically found myself mind-melding with TH.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:44 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @Epignosis @Michelle @Sloonei @speedchuck @Tranq @Dom @TonyStarkPrime @juliets @ColinIsCool

Does anyone townread TH? He seems to be the most consensus suspect and I would rather agree to focus elsewhere and lynch him via secret ballot if there's no way he's escaping lynch anyway.

So speak now so we can organize this.

I do, I did an ISO a while back and walked away satisfied. I don’t remember Jay’s ISO but I guess I should check it out if that’s what’s motivating most people

Can you be more specific?

About which part. Being satisfied? I think we’ve talked about this before. I basically found myself mind-melding with TH.

But TH keeps saying things that are wrong with no explanation.

Link me if there’s a good example or some such. It’s possible I’m wrong to place my trust in TH for that because I am pretty damn stupid

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:49 pm ...uhh

why is everyone's default response to me "I don't want to engage with you"'

Y'all hate me that much?

Dom I’m sorry, you can be a bit abrasive sometimes in my opinion but I’m being a tired little bitch, I don’t want you to feel bad or anything like that. There’s just nothing I can say to something like “you haven’t read the thread” or “you haven’t been here” other than “ok”, so there just isn’t much a point to me trying with points like that. If there are other reasons you want to kill me based on the content of my posts or votes I’d be happy to respond to those though!

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:32 pm I'm accusing you of having teammates alerting you to your name being mentioned. You disappear for days at a time, reappear without thoughts or hunting because someone has mentioned your name.

So, when are you gonna stop hiding behind how mean I am and start playing the game in earnest?

Your accusations are just not based in reality — I’ve been here every day, reading and having thoughts. But there’s no way beyond what I’m already doing in posting to prove that to you, so it’s a waste of my time to try. A lot of your points are like this which is why I presume others don’t respond to you. Maybe you will reconsider the absolute faith you put in your tunneling when the game is over.

I would encourage you to not lynch me because the numbers are diminishing for town but it seems like a combination of low activity from most players + lowest posters already casting votes makes it look inevitable. (And since the votes are overwhelmingly against TH in the PMs I probably won’t cast a vote there either.)

If there’s any way I could be of use before then, I’ll check back in — otherwise, you have my named suspects, do with em what you will.