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by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:41 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:39 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:37 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:36 pm How many baddies do we think are left?
If I read OP right 3 power roles and atleast one goon :charlieblackmon:

Correct me if wrong
Sorry 2 power roles and a goon just checked
So there's only two left you think?

Feels too easy.

iaafr
pawn
hyena

yucky !
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:42 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:38 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:25 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:20 pm I think I was wrong about Jack. :blush:
Really?
:hug:
Dom has never done this as town. :dark:
Spoiler: show
I love you, too.
Spoiler: show
no hetero
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:46 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

: O
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:45 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:38 pm [VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

Mac I hear you about Radishes but I'm going to vote here for the moment.
Fart.
That took so little convincing.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:54 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:15 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:12 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:10 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:09 pm Can we all just agree Eva is chaos incarnate and we can't take her note seriously at all?
She spewed you 3p. Of course you'd say that haha.

Are you town friendly Radish-san?
I so believe Radishes to be the 3p and if they posses day and night kill power this will be extremely dangerous
So far they've only killed a scum so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
And Nutella
There's nothing to suggest that it was the same killer. The flavour on the Evenstar kill was different. She was "eliminated".
Both say that...
Feels intentional from JJJ
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:55 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Epignosis wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:54 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:19 pmiaafr, epi?
I'm thinking about it.
Have you been stringing me along? Playing me the fool?
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:58 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:28 pm he certainly isn't the double voter.
Evenstar was the role cop, checked Nutella, claimed iaafr was the doublevoter, iaafr didn’t deny it

Easy mafia bag
ture.
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:05 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:45 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:38 pm [VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

Mac I hear you about Radishes but I'm going to vote here for the moment.
Fart.
That took so little convincing.
What do you mean? I'm the one who said Eva's calling out of iaafr to go vote Hyena is a bad look for iaafr. I convinced myself when I looked back over EOD during the night phase. It's was just like her giving her teammate FTF away as scum in EOD 2 In WC 1.
:ponder:

MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:10 pm For reference this is my shit.

sprityo
112
Quin

Dom
Long Con
Jackofhearts2005
Trustworthy Liberal
ColinIsCool

Lady Lambdadelta
iaafr
juliets
Pawn Lelouch

Hyena
Epignosis


Master Radishes is like some colour that doesn't exist.
Epignosis below Hyena?
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

There's no way iaafr and epi are on the same team
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:26 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:05 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:45 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:38 pm [VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

Mac I hear you about Radishes but I'm going to vote here for the moment.
Fart.
That took so little convincing.
What do you mean? I'm the one who said Eva's calling out of iaafr to go vote Hyena is a bad look for iaafr. I convinced myself when I looked back over EOD during the night phase. It's was just like her giving her teammate FTF away as scum in EOD 2 In WC 1.
:ponder:
I thought you were saying I was too easily convinced. Maybe I misread you. Apologies if I did.
You votes just seem very whimsical this game.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:30 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

I don't think Epi does that if he knows eva is dying that day.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:34 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:26 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:05 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:45 pm

Fart.
That took so little convincing.
What do you mean? I'm the one who said Eva's calling out of iaafr to go vote Hyena is a bad look for iaafr. I convinced myself when I looked back over EOD during the night phase. It's was just like her giving her teammate FTF away as scum in EOD 2 In WC 1.
:ponder:
I thought you were saying I was too easily convinced. Maybe I misread you. Apologies if I did.
You votes just seem very whimsical this game.
Oh, I see.

But don't you also think iaafr looks bad? I don't know why a vote for him looks whimsical. I feel more sure about this vote than I've felt about any since the first day.
I don't recall you suspecting him before today.

I've suspected him since Day 2.
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:32 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm There's no way iaafr and epi are on the same team
You’re saying this based off of the interaction on day 2 I’m assuming?
And 3.
And 4.

It was really ugly. I'd like to think Epi wouldn't do that. He knew I was actually upset.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:35 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:34 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:32 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm There's no way iaafr and epi are on the same team
You’re saying this based off of the interaction on day 2 I’m assuming?
What happened day 2?
I'll show you. Give me some time.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:35 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Or maybe I shouldn't tbh.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:36 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

This is from Day 4.

About Epignosis.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:39 pm you are like 90% of the reason i have trouble finding this game enjoyable
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:36 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

That's tame tbh.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

It was really nasty. I was involved. It was mean. Evestar was incredibly mean to me.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:36 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:29 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:25 pm Also @MacDougall I’m 100% positive epi and pawn are not aligned.

Who is mafia and who is town
You are 100% positive they are not town/town? How so.
Wait..... okay maybe but I know it’s not w/w

Given interactions with Evenstar it’s highly likely one of them is wolf though
@Dom what do you make of this as well
I agree. Pawn Eva and iaafr were all so.... well...
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:38 pm I’m entertaining your (Dom) idea that epi and rabbit are not on the and team, but epi and pawn are for sure not wolf/wolf so it seems the common link to solving the problem is voting epi?
I'm not sure about Epi whatsoever, though.

I think Pawn, iaafr, and hyena are obvious baddies, though.
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:39 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm It was really nasty. I was involved. It was mean. Evestar was incredibly mean to me.
Jesus, sorry it sounds awful. No need to reproduce it in this thread I will trust you and sprityo that they can't be aligned.
I would be incredibly disappointed in Rob if he is aligned with them. It would really be a low rent manipulation technique on me. I don't think he'd be proud of that.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:48 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Weren't people very suspicious of TL yesterday?
I didn't get it because I haven't read what I missed.

What do people in that camp think today?
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:59 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

[mention]sprityo[/mention]
What day did you argue with Evestar about the iaafr doublevoter theory? It was a day where I was asking identical questions, but she was responding by calling me a dick and to you by answering the questions.
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:53 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:38 pm I’m entertaining your (Dom) idea that epi and rabbit are not on the and team, but epi and pawn are for sure not wolf/wolf so it seems the common link to solving the problem is voting epi?
I'm not sure about Epi whatsoever, though.

I think Pawn, iaafr, and hyena are obvious baddies, though.
If that’s the case then epi is town
Yes.
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:55 pm Honestly just lynch Hyena. He's probs mafia off of Elephant.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine
You're so transparent.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:01 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:00 pm so I got pocketed by Eva and probably pawn.

I'm just gonna assume pawn would've been more suspicious at Eva if he wasn't scum

[VOTE: pawn lelouch] aubergine

also Dom, Eva wasn't being mean to you on purpose, she saw your response to my d2 in d3 without being able to read d2 and from that perspective it probably looked like you were being a dick to me mostly unprovoked. from my perspective I knew it was somewhat provoked, but at the time I was still salty for various reasons and didn't wanna get into it.

anyway Eva being sympathetic to me there was clearly to help pocket me. I also repeated a few times during day 1 that as long as Eva kept scumreading me, I was willing to kill her, because even if I didn't have her confidently scum then, she was antitown from my pov. reread those interactions to maybe softclear me. I was also one of her first pushes, though I guess Drago was too so it's hard to clear me off that. whatever. I'll take my first ml if it comes down to it.
This is pathetic.

Why did you go along with the double voter theory?
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:07 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:03 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:01 pm
iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:00 pm so I got pocketed by Eva and probably pawn.

I'm just gonna assume pawn would've been more suspicious at Eva if he wasn't scum

[VOTE: pawn lelouch] aubergine

also Dom, Eva wasn't being mean to you on purpose, she saw your response to my d2 in d3 without being able to read d2 and from that perspective it probably looked like you were being a dick to me mostly unprovoked. from my perspective I knew it was somewhat provoked, but at the time I was still salty for various reasons and didn't wanna get into it.

anyway Eva being sympathetic to me there was clearly to help pocket me. I also repeated a few times during day 1 that as long as Eva kept scumreading me, I was willing to kill her, because even if I didn't have her confidently scum then, she was antitown from my pov. reread those interactions to maybe softclear me. I was also one of her first pushes, though I guess Drago was too so it's hard to clear me off that. whatever. I'll take my first ml if it comes down to it.
This is pathetic.

Why did you go along with the double voter theory?
because I was sick of people sussing me, I'm pretty sure that's how you interpreted that situation anyway

I was genuinely really frustrated I couldn't point to d1 posts while epi was stubbornly questioning me on my d1 vote logic when I clearly didn't think it was a fruitful line of thought
[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:08 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:05 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:59 pm @sprityo
What day did you argue with Evestar about the iaafr doublevoter theory? It was a day where I was asking identical questions, but she was responding by calling me a dick and to you by answering the questions.
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:53 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:38 pm I’m entertaining your (Dom) idea that epi and rabbit are not on the and team, but epi and pawn are for sure not wolf/wolf so it seems the common link to solving the problem is voting epi?
I'm not sure about Epi whatsoever, though.

I think Pawn, iaafr, and hyena are obvious baddies, though.
If that’s the case then epi is town
Yes.
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:55 pm Honestly just lynch Hyena. He's probs mafia off of Elephant.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine
You're so transparent.
Day 3 I’m pretty sure
I can't find it. I want to find it so everyone can see it.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:09 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

iaafr wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:05 pm gamestate: like every syndicate player on the layer sussing me for various reasons

Eva: everybody stop sussing iaafr he's doublevoter

me: sure ya if it'll get people to stop talking about me
lol k
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:10 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

It makes so much sense in retrospect that iaafr and Eve had BTSC.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:12 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:05 pm
sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:01 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:57 pm
sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:53 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:44 pm oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people
tbh, i'm not following this logic, but this theory enough isnt enough to convince me to not have rabbit in my potential voting pool
if his double-vote makes the difference to lynch a scum he is NK'd every time guaranteed

if his double-vote is noticed by scum he is NK'd >50% of the time

concrete evidence of its existence makes him damn close to an IC due to the fact that "Doublevoter" is in the list of existing town roles

he just didn't bet on all the votes after D1 being anonymous and therefore being unable to mech clear himself

it fits entirely with his reckless play
Yes but explain to me how they would know he is the doublevoter?
:ponder:

... okay, you got me there.

A beautiful theory spoiled by an ugly fact.

:sigh:

iaafr never once disputed this or sowed any doubt in Eva....
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:14 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

[mention]sprityo[/mention]

I found it.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:17 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Epignosis wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:15 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:54 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:19 pmiaafr, epi?
I'm thinking about it.
Have you been stringing me along? Playing me the fool?
I can speak in my own defense later. I'm not getting lynched today.
This sounds familiar, and I don't like it.
Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:16 pm @juliets I have no reason to think iaafr is town. Dom's post just recently is an easy scumread.
I'm an easy scumread? :confused:
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:24 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

I honestly would be genuinely upset with a friend if Epi is aligned with Eve.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:24 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

I honestly would be genuinely upset with a friend if Epi is aligned with Eve.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:25 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

iaafr is bad. I've been right for days. They didn't vote on dragomir Day 1 because they were hoping a counterwagon would take it over, but didn't want to be slammed for getting on a counter wagon
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:29 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

If iaafr and pawn are civs, then I think Epi is much more likely to be bad.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:30 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

sprit, I'm cautiously moving you up in my reads.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:36 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:33 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:30 pm sprit, I'm cautiously moving you up in my reads.
On the topic of reads Dom may I ask who your top say 4 town are in no particular order or better yet the four people you never Lynch Today?
I don't like naming who I think are good.
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:39 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Bad:
iaafr
pawn
hyena











????
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:44 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:42 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:32 pm Nothing was optimal about Eva's play, but if Radishes is that bad, why didn't she try and lynch him?
Didn’t she?
She said that "he'd be taken care of" and refused to vote for him yesterday
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:05 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 6]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:52 pm @Dom why is Epi/Eva incompatible?
This is a prickly, personal attack-y road.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:44 pm Epi's ISO pretty much spews him teammates with Elephant tbh. It's damning shit.
Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:08 am
Elephant - Elephant called my willingness to be lynched "reverse psychology." Anybody who knows me right now knows there is nothing reverse about working as much as I do. Elephant does not know me whatsoever, and I cannot judge Elephant for that. What I can do is judge Elephant for keeping his vote on me despite engaging with others. Would lynch, but not Day 1.
This is the first mention of Elephant. The "would lynch, but not day 1" is distancing 101. The commentary here is meaningless drivel designed to look like real play.
Epignosis wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:01 pm To answer Elephant's question: "why did you really select Hyena to be your first push?"

He was there at the same time I was. And to be clear, it wasn't a push. It was my first suspicion. It is now a suspicion that lingers in the back of my mind for now.
Goes out of his way to answer Elephant's question. Epi goes into detail to explain himself for Elephant. For the rest of us it's usually just insults or dismissal lol.
Epignosis wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:17 pm I have no interest in an Elephant lynch Day 1 or Day 2 (probably not Day 3 either).
Of course not.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:15 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:15 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 am
Hyena wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:55 pm I wonder if mafia had access to all the game threads. If that's the case, they could have seen the people here D2 having doubts about Evenstar and 112 and started pushing those two in preparation for when we all joined back up here.
Didn't you see Epignosis reading here?
I should rephrase that. One of us spotted Epignosis as viewing this thread D2. I don't remember who it was, it might have been Hyena. I don't remember what we concluded from it, but the "access" suggestion pinged this recollection.
The only time I was reading this thread after Day 1 was during Night 1. If I were reading this thread Day 2, what does that do to your opinion of me? Am I bad? Good? How does that information impact your view?
Elephant's prodding of Epi is always treated with respect and discipline, which is weird for Epi. Worth noting that Epi is a non busser type. Very much favours protecting teammates than burying them or engaging in distancing shenanigans.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:16 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:37 am
Epignosis wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:07 pm
Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.
Who are "the syndicate people" who are still with us? Colin, Dom, Epignosis, Jack, Juliets, Long Con, Radishes, nutella, Quin, Sprityo? Anyone who knows, please confirm or correct this list!
This was tongue-in-cheek, a nod to some bizarre theory that gained currency in one of our sub-threads.
Just more distancing type shit that's null.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:52 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:17 am [VOTE: Elephant] aubergine

I'm with Michelle.
why though, her suspicion is largely based on things she has simply misunderstood from his posts. they have just been talking past each other and misinterpreting every point, it's the most frustrating exchange I've ever had to read. can you explain what you're seeing here because I think it's an unproductive town/town argument
I didn't even try to comprehend that mess.
Hijacking nutella's bad arguments towards Michelle's elephant sus. Empowering her bad read and defending Elephant at the same time. This is how scum defend teammates.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:48 pm Looking at the poll, it doesn't look like there was ever a concerted effort to save Dragomir at all. If there was one, it was that sudden surge against me, not the votes on 112. If I'm correct about Evenstar, the only two unknowns (from my perspective, obviously) are Elephant and JackofHearts2005. :shrug:
By trying to discredit the notion that there was an effort to save Dragomir, Epignosis is by proxy defending Elephant (and himself).
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:24 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:20 pm I feel like I've asked multiple people to talk to me about Elephant and I've been roundly ignored. Someone on this godforsaken dreamplane talk to me about the betrunked pachyderm.
I've put it on the backburner. Mea culpa.

I'll look into it later. :grin:
Nutella wants to talk about Elephant, Epignosis lolcats about it. Says he'll look into it later.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:05 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:00 pm Dom, nutella:

Give Evenstar another Day. Find someone else. There isn't just two mafia members. And I don't think it's her right now. Revisit Day 6 if you must.

I think Evenstar is a dumb lynch.
Jack or Elephant?
Out of the two, I'd lynch Jack.

I still have to see about Elephant though.
Chooses Jack in a Jack vs. Elephant scenario. Vomit.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:53 pm
Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:48 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:33 pm Elephant 4 [Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, Nutella]
JackofHearts2005 2 [Epignosis, Dom]
Long Con 2 [Macdougall, JackofHearts2005]
Nutella 2 [Lady Lambdadelta, Evenstar]
Evenstar 2 [112, Sprityo]
Epignosis 1 [Pawn Lelouch]
Hyena 1 [Master Radishes]
iaafr 1 [Quin]
Dom 1[Elephant]
Trustworthy Liberal 1 [Hyena]

3 Not Voting: Juliets, ColinisCool, Trustworthy Liberal

17 votes cast and the largest wagon is 4.

What an absolutely atrocious votal. We need to get our shit together.

(I guess it's better than "nova/jack is obvious scum, lol", but not by much.)

@Hyena
@Elephant
@Quin
@Master Radishes
@Pawn Lelouch

All of you, make your strongest case for why the person you are on right now deserves to be in contention. If you don't have a case you're willing to put time in to defend, vote someone else.

@juliets
@ColinIsCool
@Trustworthy Liberal

This may be the most important day phase in the entire game. We need your input. Put a damn vote down already.
Dom is an infolynch at this point. If he flips scum, Michelle is absolutely town, unless she refuses to commit -- and if she refuses, I need to re-evaluate her.
I have made a case on Radishes for the F3 lynch.
Lynching in my group is straight POE.
This is the worst post I've seen from Elephant.
The first thing he's actually said bad about Elephant. Very nothingburger though. And the followup renders any town peek he gains from it moot.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:55 pm I looked back at my notes. I don't think I can vote for Elephant today.
Herp. Derp. Die.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:38 pm @Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding
How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?
Elephant wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm
Dragomir wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pm
juliets wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pm
juliets wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pm

Thanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.
So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?
Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.
More defending Elephant.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:49 pm
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:38 pm @Everyone, Elephant wants me to screw the logic of my reads and this is a scum tactic.

let's lynch scum today, thanks for understanding
How does the post below factor into the idea that Elephant and Dragomir are teammates?
Elephant wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm
Dragomir wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pm

I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?
Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.
How can you town read him for a meaningless post?
An invite to roleplay is nothing shading or distancing, I see there a normal convo I would never consider AI.
I don't agree that it's a meaningless post if you read the exchange fully. Elephant essentially shot down Dragomir's biggest angle when there would have been no reason to do so (unless you think someone would look back and give you credit for it like I'm doing, but I don't think that was Elephant's angle).
More defending Elephant.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:41 pm Civilians

Dom - I would wager money Dom is a civilian.

Evenstar - For reasons.

Master Radishes - As I've alluded to, the Root and I had an exchange Day 2 that helped us better understand each other, and right now I find myself largely agreeing with his positions. I like what I see, though I don't have the same confidence I do with Dom.

juliets - I was concerned that I could not put juliets in this list as effortlessly as I have been able to in the past, but I reviewed my notes and the progression toward voting for Dragomir looks natural.

Michelle - Most of what I've seen from Michelle exudes a sense of genuineness that is difficult to fake for most. I wish Michelle (as with pretty much everyone) would examine suspects within the context of Day 1, since that is the most valuable Day the civilians have in the books, but I'm viewing Michelle as a civilian for now.

iaafr - I have no prior experience with iaafr, so take this with a grain of salt. However, iaafr posts with reckless abandon. If iaafr is mafia, then he doesn't give a toss about strategy or how his interactions with his teammates look. I mentioned something to this effect in another thread, but if I were on iaafr's team, I'd be pulling my hair out and maybe saying bad words in BTSC.

nutella - Anyone from here can tell you that nutella has been a perpetual blind spot for me for years. I feel that I'm turning a corner on that front. Alternatively, nutella always seems to have my number. I think the last couple of times I've been bad, she called it early and often. Maybe that's a fluke. Maybe it's a small sample size. I know she's correct about me again here, and I don't believe she's faking that. My conclusion from my prior analysis still holds: " I saw nutella as a civilian throughout Day 1, and I don’t see anything here that changes my mind."

Elephant - I concede it's a small point in his favor, but it exists and gives me a good impression of Elephant. Perhaps I'm misreading it, but oh well. Elephant wouldn't make my top five suspects today anyway.


People I need to Sort

ColinIsCool

Hyena

JackofHearts2005

Long Con

MacDougall

Quin

TurstworthyLiberal


Mafia

112 - In looking back, I still feel Dragomir and 112 were teammates softly pushing against each other. You can read those interactions in this spoiled post.

Pawn Lelouch - Pawn has done nothing productive today. He has his vote on me and is not engaging me. I don't know why he's voting for me unless it's still because of what is perhaps the worst reasoning I have ever witnessed.

LadyLambaDelta - Day 2, all LLD did was shit on my analyses. I replied, "There is no civilian reason to discredit my effort without attempting to engage with it in some capacity. If you believe I am mafia, then you should be able to show how the content of my effort is compatible with that hypothesis rather than merely claim that the effort itself is compatible with your hypothesis."

sprityo - sprityo makes the list because a lot of what he's doing looks like busy work. I don't understand the compilations of noteworthy posts he's making- I'm not seeing any value added. Is there any analysis or commentary to go with those?
Has Elephant (AND EVENSTAR) in his civ list. VOM-fucking-IT.
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:09 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:24 pm
juliets wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:19 pm @Lady LambdaDelta
@juliets

What are both your opinions of Epi at this time?
Eva I think he is town. He says he doesn't have a meta but I find him more abrupt and less likely to explain why he sees things the way he does when he's scum.
He's been pretty abrupt and under-explainy IMO, and he's so catastrophically wrong about the game that I find it really hard to believe he's not scum if he's actually any good at this
Yeah okay.
Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:11 pm So, generally, your D1 reads did quite well: two of your town calls flipped town, and onyl two of your "teammate compatible" assessments (who should probably be in the "to be sorted" pile rather than scum leans?) flipped town as well.
:rolleyes:
Last mention of Elephant is a nothingburger.

I'll add that Epignosis is too good of a player for this to be anything other than his scum game.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
This is actually pretty damning for Epi. (Gj me reading Dom town by his own merits when DL3 was basically me, Dom and the two scummiest players in the game. Dom could have 0 posted and I should townread his ass anyway. Oh well.)

Like, I’ve played scum against Epi a bunch and I’ve never really pocketed him that I remember. I mostly just undermine him cause he’s such a prickly porcupine that it’s easier to convince other players he’s wrong and unhelpful than it is to convince Epi I’m town.

So does Elephant, who I don’t remember any non meme D1 content from, and who didn’t share a thread with Epi for most of the game, who has never played with Epi before and who was getting shat on as soon as we returned to DL1 pocket Epi this badly?

Doubtful.

The problem is that Epi feels town. So does Rabbit.

So like, they should fight.
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IDK it's a mixed bag, [mention]MacDougall[/mention] in terms of Epi/Eva.

But Epi/iaafr is 0%.
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I feel uneasy af.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:25 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:34 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:31 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:26 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:24 pm
juliets wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:05 pm

What do you mean? I'm the one who said Eva's calling out of iaafr to go vote Hyena is a bad look for iaafr. I convinced myself when I looked back over EOD during the night phase. It's was just like her giving her teammate FTF away as scum in EOD 2 In WC 1.
:ponder:
I thought you were saying I was too easily convinced. Maybe I misread you. Apologies if I did.
You votes just seem very whimsical this game.
Oh, I see.

But don't you also think iaafr looks bad? I don't know why a vote for him looks whimsical. I feel more sure about this vote than I've felt about any since the first day.
I don't recall you suspecting him before today.

I've suspected him since Day 2.
sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:32 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:28 pm There's no way iaafr and epi are on the same team
You’re saying this based off of the interaction on day 2 I’m assuming?
And 3.
And 4.

It was really ugly. I'd like to think Epi wouldn't do that. He knew I was actually upset.
Epi wasn’t upset. You and Iaafr were upset. I don’t think you faked that. Idk if Iaafr could fake that or not. There was nothing for Epi to fake.
I know Epi better than you, and I'd be incredibly disappointed in him for doing what he did.
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[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]
Epi knows how upset I was and I can not accept it if he was egging that on.
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Sigh. Day 2 from Eva.
Evenstar wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:29 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:24 pm
Evenstar wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:05 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:57 pm
Evenstar wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:53 pm @Pawn Lelouch Mind explaining why you told me Mac was responsible for "crusading" on the Epi wagon when he... really didn't do dick all except have a bout of paranoia?
Since he is the person who basically started the Epi wagon and was the person who got people to vote on it.

Since no one actually posted any real reasons to put their vote on him outside of vague paranoia that mimicked Mac's. They just followed onto him out of fearmongering about Epi's scum game from Mac.

So from my perspective Mac is by far the most prominent reason and person why Epi was a wagon. I stand by what I said.
Okay, this is a much better answer. I do agree that Mac was the catalyst, but IMO the jumps on looked very opportunistic and scummy, which said to me that Mac was a wrong townie getting taken advantage of by uhhhh fuck I didn't write it down I was expecting to have the thread still

Epignosis do you recall who followed Mac onto your wagon? There were like three votes in quick succession, I think one of them was Iaafr?
MacDougall was one. iaafr was one. Hyena was one. novaselinenever was one. There was one more, but it is eluding me. The most I had at one point was five votes.
Yeah Nova super deserves pressure today after following Mac like that.

Speaking of which, @Macdougall: Stop overthinking and get out of your Epi tunnel, this man is town. You're reading way too much in and letting your paranoia get the best of you.

Evenstar wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:45 pm ... if 112 is town, then Epi could still be a scum wagon.

... and he hasn't checked back into the thread since he dumped all his night stuff on us.

... and he said he wouldn't...
Epignosis wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:18 am I'm going to bed. I will not be available until evening tomorrow.

Please someone copy my stuff. Let others see it if I don't wake up.
... is this

literally

my qualifier scumgame

post giant walls, don't reply to criticism, let everyone assume no scum would ever do that much work?

the appeal to "please save my work" smells deeply of LAMIST to me

"look at all this I've done, don't let it be lost"

did I get pocketed?

@Pawn Lelouch give me a second pair of eyes here I'm having a crisis of confidence
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:47 pm
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:44 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:48 pm Weren't people very suspicious of TL yesterday?
I didn't get it because I haven't read what I missed.

What do people in that camp think today?
Kinda came out of the blue tbh.
What do you mean?
by Dom
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:53 pm
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There's faking emotion, but he knew exactly what he was doing to me if he's on a team with Eva. I just don't see him doing that to me at this point.

I'm trying to find a specific post that read to me as "they're definitely not on a team", but am having a hard time finding it. So many threads to look through.


Maybe you know where...

Epi called himself sexy or something and Eva was absolutely disgusted-- which always rang false to me because she participated in the weird anime sex thing that made me uncomfortable at the beginning of Day 2.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:53 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:36 pm
Epi knows how upset I was and I can not accept it if he was egging that on.
You’re saying what though?

Wolf Epi would behind the scenes tell Iaafr to quit it?
There's a 0% chance he encourages Eva to speak to me the way she did.
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Epignosis wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:55 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:53 pm There's faking emotion, but he knew exactly what he was doing to me if he's on a team with Eva. I just don't see him doing that to me at this point.

I'm trying to find a specific post that read to me as "they're definitely not on a team", but am having a hard time finding it. So many threads to look through.


Maybe you know where...

Epi called himself sexy or something and Eva was absolutely disgusted-- which always rang false to me because she participated in the weird anime sex thing that made me uncomfortable at the beginning of Day 2.
Epignosis wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:14 pm
Evenstar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:05 pm
Evenstar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:02 pm

if you feel I'm a drag on the gamestate, then yeah, lynch me. but I'm not going to just jump and do whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing right now on your say-so. I'm not your dog, I have my own brain, and I am tired as hell after slogging my way through that F3. Go bother someone else.
You have your own brain. True. I implore you to use it.
I am. It's telling me you're scum. Have you perhaps considered that there might be something in your play you could correct that would make it stop doing that?
Don't need anything in my play. The Syndicate people will tell you I'm a civilian. Get used to it hon. This is my civilian bod. It's sexy.
... are all the guys here creepy like this?
Did you take that seriously? :shifty:
I was in a feud with these three people because they kept saying how shitty the people were here.

I don't think Epi eggs me on like this. I just don't.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:57 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:53 pm
Dom wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:36 pm
Epi knows how upset I was and I can not accept it if he was egging that on.
You’re saying what though?

Wolf Epi would behind the scenes tell Iaafr to quit it?
There's a 0% chance he encourages Eva to speak to me the way she did.
I remember the Iaafr/Epi/Dom fight very well and the Eva/Dom one less so. I’ll take your word for it.
I sent more PMs to speedchuck about Eva than anyone else. And some I don't feel great about how I treated [mention]speedchuck[/mention] .
by Dom
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all y'all married and i will continue to sit here like a potato.
by Dom
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do you, sprityo, accept my rose?
by Dom
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:06 am
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Guys, I think iaafr like this game better when he and Eve were unkillable in a dream level
by Dom
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:07 am
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Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:06 am
Dom wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:01 am all y'all married and i will continue to sit here like a potato.
Hey I know atleast some people here arn't married.
oh i've known some of these people for...

i feel old.

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