The Syndicate

So.
Sprit keeps emphasizing how much I'm not participating.

I have more posts than he this day period.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:26 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:14 pm I like Pawn. I have no intention of voting there.
this is your idea of an adequate answer to asking why you read him the way you do?
Yes.

What's the best is that Epi's post contains way more content than any single rabbit post.

Pawn seems fine. I have no reason to suspect him or not suspect him.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:30 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:29 pm What's the best is that Epi's post contains way more content than any single rabbit post.
youre the worst poster in this game

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

This is wild, man.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:27 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:26 pm your way of evaluating me is dumb from my perspective and i have consider it a valid defense to treat it as such
My way of evaluating you was asking you one question.
and i answered the question honestly and you decided to distrust my answer which is objectively incorrect in this game in which i am town so its a really dumb way of evaluating me if youre town
"Objectively incorrect."

I don't think you know what objectivity means.

You answered the question this way:

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:32 pm stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please
Your answer may well be the truth. If so, I am baffled.

It is not enough for me to call you good.

Therefore, you remain a suspect, especially in this limited environment.

All game aside-- it's not worth it.

*stares in sprityo*

*stares in jack*

Look-- I'm critiquing the contents of your posts. You can take that personally, but it's entirely within the construct of the game to do so. I find your criticism of Epi to be hollow at best in this regard given how you've behaved.

If that's too much for you, then I think this game isn't for you.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] I'm not sorry for my behavior.

[mention]sprityo[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Let's talk. Gimme a hot take.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:45 pm alright so now i have to take that as spewing that slot town

I'm sure I'll be called a name for asking this genuine question-- just like before, but here goes...

What does this even mean?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:49 pm Rather than continue these pointed discussions, why don't we step back, hmm?

Rather than continue these pointed discussions, wouldn't it be easier to just discuss literally anything else?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:50 pm Let's make our best effort to keep our competitive play above the belt gang. I appreciate your continued respect for the rules, including those pertaining to general conduct per the the website. Any concerns, don't hesitate to reach out to our Moderator on Duty, @speedchuck.

Oh, sweetie

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:50 pm man.

yea i mean im stepping out of the game for now

Let the record show I asked a question in good faith and this is how I was responded to.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:50 pm Let's make our best effort to keep our competitive play above the belt gang. I appreciate your continued respect for the rules, including those pertaining to general conduct per the the website. Any concerns, don't hesitate to reach out to our Moderator on Duty, @speedchuck.
Oh, sweetie

This is a load of barnacles.

Epi, my bottom three are:

iaafr
sprit
Jack?

I think the problem is that I'm liking too many people this round.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:58 pm Epi, my bottom three are:

iaafr
sprit
Jack?

I think the problem is that I'm liking too many people this round.

Also just with who is in our group. I'd love to engage with Mac and Hyena more and I'd love to know where nutella is at given I was really civ reading her.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:58 pm ColinIsCool - ColinisCool is here because someone else has to be. He's bad. Lynch him.
Jackofhearts2005 - I cannot recall a single original idea Jack has had. I do not know where he stands.
sprityo - I agreed to talk to sprityo this evening when he was around and then he didn't talk to me. I don't know why that is.

1) Can you explain colin more? I've not understood that yet.
2) that's my feel on jack too.
3) it's because he simply has nothing to say and was hoping you'd say it for him.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:59 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:58 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:58 pm Epi, my bottom three are:

iaafr
sprit
Jack?

I think the problem is that I'm liking too many people this round.
Also just with who is in our group. I'd love to engage with Mac and Hyena more and I'd love to know where nutella is at given I was really civ reading her.
can you remind the thread what you got out of engaging with mac and hyena when you did?

i missed those interactions

I had some D1 beef with hyena. I didn't take careful notes so I don't remember what they are.
I thought Mac wasn't hunting D2. I found him too relaxed and willing to go with the flow.

Epi-- what are your thoughts on my pressuring of sprityo

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:02 am See visitors? Dom is a civilian because he is here, asking questions, entertaining answers, and not beating his chest demanding everyone agree that he is a civilian.

It's lovely, don't you think?

u know i h8 it when u do that

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:02 am if dom and epignosis are town then

sprityo jack pawn

Why pawn?

That's my entire thoughts on him. I can't fabricate thoughts or reads.

Well I can, but they wouldn't be useful.

Nope.

I see a pretty bland iso that I just don't have strong feelings on either way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:08 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:02 am Epi-- what are your thoughts on my pressuring of sprityo
I hate to say it, but sprityo is in my bottom three by default.

I don't know what you mean here.

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:12 am like i said earlier you should be concerned you're in his bottom 3

Why?
I don't give two shits.

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:14 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:12 am like i said earlier you should be concerned you're in his bottom 3
Why?
I don't give two shits.
because from my and eva's perspectives, locktown from my perspective, he is currently towncore and we all suspect you and he could be scum facilitating a mislynch of you

Sooner or later, you're gonna have to realize that you and eva are not the center of the universe in this game and not everybody spends all their time trying to play the game according to your standards.

If people want to lynch me, they can.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am I looked at Pawn's posts this phase.

They're garbage. Go see for yourselves.

I'm bored by them.
Why are they garbage? Because I'm bored? That's a valid line of critique offered by iaafr too. I just don't see it reason enough to replace Jack in my bottom three.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:19 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
This is fake peacekeeper bullshit.

Note that Pawn never did anything in our absent (not that iaafr was ever absent ).

This gave me a different thought.

Pawn has dealt with you and I very differently.
Why do you think that is?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:23 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:21 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:19 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
This is fake peacekeeper bullshit.

Note that Pawn never did anything in our absent (not that iaafr was ever absent ).
This gave me a different thought.

Pawn has dealt with you and I very differently.
Why do you think that is?
I think you need to be more specific. I had positive thoughts that carried over from Day 1 but are falling apart just now.

Also, I'm very tired and still have to finish my grades. I do not know why Pawn has treated me different from you or if he even has.

Were your grades due this week too? I finished on Friday and said this weekend is ALL MINE BITCCHHHHH YAASS QUEEEEEEEN

I think Pawn has been much, much less aggressive/harsh with you.

I think he's afraid of you, but not me.

Which, as you know, is his mistake.

Why radishes for you?

He left my bottom

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:28 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:24 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:23 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:21 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:19 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
This is fake peacekeeper bullshit.

Note that Pawn never did anything in our absent (not that iaafr was ever absent ).
This gave me a different thought.

Pawn has dealt with you and I very differently.
Why do you think that is?
I think you need to be more specific. I had positive thoughts that carried over from Day 1 but are falling apart just now.

Also, I'm very tired and still have to finish my grades. I do not know why Pawn has treated me different from you or if he even has.
Were your grades due this week too? I finished on Friday and said this weekend is ALL MINE BITCCHHHHH YAASS QUEEEEEEEN

I think Pawn has been much, much less aggressive/harsh with you.

I think he's afraid of you, but not me.

Which, as you know, is his mistake.
Grades are due tonight, but I have no planning period since I am covering this semester for a teacher who is out on extended leave. It's hell.

I totally feel ya. I'm doing a lot of stuff I really don't have to be doing and I don't necessarily want to complain, but jeeze, I'm tired.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:28 am I don’t understand why anyone in this game suspects me.

I’ve heard one reason for me being suspected today and it’s that Epi doesn’t think I have original thoughts, which is a damn silly thing to say as everyone else is complaining that my reads are too counter to the consensus.

What are your reads?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am So as usual, there is scum on my wagon. Except my wagon is like most of the players so...

You don't even know that you have a wagon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:30 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:28 am I don’t understand why anyone in this game suspects me.

I’ve heard one reason for me being suspected today and it’s that Epi doesn’t think I have original thoughts, which is a damn silly thing to say as everyone else is complaining that my reads are too counter to the consensus.
What are your reads?
Why do you think I have no original thoughts if you don’t know what my reads are?

See... that's the exact problem.

I've agreed with you a couple of times this game.
But it hasn't been in a way that helps me figure out where you stand.

Help me out with that.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:33 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am So as usual, there is scum on my wagon. Except my wagon is like most of the players so...
You don't even know that you have a wagon.
I’ve been in every player’s bottom 3 at some point and at least 3 players’ bottom 3 right now.

With no real case.

Someone is faking suspicion on me. Probably a couple someones. Probably you.

That's a spicy meatball.

Do tell.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:35 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:30 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:28 am I don’t understand why anyone in this game suspects me.

I’ve heard one reason for me being suspected today and it’s that Epi doesn’t think I have original thoughts, which is a damn silly thing to say as everyone else is complaining that my reads are too counter to the consensus.
What are your reads?
Why do you think I have no original thoughts if you don’t know what my reads are?
See... that's the exact problem.
Yeah, that is a problem.

You have the third most posts in this thread and I can't recall a single position you've taken.

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:37 am man whys it take a hell of a spoonfeeding to get people to consider that pawn, the guy confidently townreading me and agreeing with me on pretty much everything when all of you arent

is that realistic or fake i cant even tell

Once again, I will remind you that this game does not, and will not, revolve around you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:38 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:33 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am So as usual, there is scum on my wagon. Except my wagon is like most of the players so...
You don't even know that you have a wagon.
I’ve been in every player’s bottom 3 at some point and at least 3 players’ bottom 3 right now.

With no real case.

Someone is faking suspicion on me. Probably a couple someones. Probably you.
That's a spicy meatball.

Do tell.
The second I posted it, my brain went “but maybe not Dom because Dom always suspects you.”

Your honor, case and point.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:41 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:36 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:35 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:30 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:28 am I don’t understand why anyone in this game suspects me.

I’ve heard one reason for me being suspected today and it’s that Epi doesn’t think I have original thoughts, which is a damn silly thing to say as everyone else is complaining that my reads are too counter to the consensus.
What are your reads?
Why do you think I have no original thoughts if you don’t know what my reads are?
See... that's the exact problem.
Yeah, that is a problem.
You have the third most posts in this thread and I can't recall a single position you've taken.
Who’s fault do you think that is? I have very very very clear positions that I have numbered and explained multiple times. Read the damn thread, Dom. Form some educated opinions so that when you say things, I can evaluate if you’re a townie or a wolf.

Have you considered that you have not communicated them well?

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:05 pm The events, sprit, that you're mentioning happened during Phase 2.

You're not adding up.
Oh yeaaaaa
Epi did his whole shtick in the last thread

My bad

....yeah so....you're not looking so hot.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:46 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:17 pm So.
Sprit keeps emphasizing how much I'm not participating.

I have more posts than he this day period.
Post number does not equal content

Also I’m not emphasizing it?

Footage Found
1. Exhibit A
2. Exhibit B

2/50 posts is about 4% of your posts being about how I don't participate enough.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you ain't living your truth.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:56 am Okay so maybe I explained my read on Radishes better on a thread nobody can see. That’s on me.

My other reads are pretty damn clear.

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:19 pm When did I become a consensus scumread?

I’m obviously town.

My three are still iaafr, Radishes and new challenger Pawn, who has basically just repeated consensus shit today and the back half of yesterday.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:51 pm If I broke quiet players into groups they would look like

Town
Dom
Nova
Sprityo

Scum
Colin
Quin
LLD

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:54 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 pm
Eva wrote:talk to me about my rederivation of this shitty, shitty PoE

which of my assumptions are wrong
Walk me through how Rabbit being a double voter makes Rabbit town or why a town double voter wouldn’t have voted the scumread he “obviously” secretly had.

I don’t get it.
I admit this is a weak point in my case for Iaafr, but I am ok with it and still think he's town

Do you have further reasons to scumread him?
I don’t remember if I answered this.

Yeah. I think his pushes on players for scumreading him don’t make any damn sense.

Like if I’m a wolf (or if Sprityo’s a wolf or whatever), anyone but Rabbit is an easier mislynch. So why does me pushing a Rabbit make me scum?

It should be the opposite. A wolf that sees a hard to lynch townie with a stupid tunnel should just let that happen or if they’re one of the several players being tunneled, just focus on outrunning the friend instead of the bear.

I don’t get why town!Rabbit omgus tunnels anyone who voiced suspicion of him.

There are lots of little things that bug me like going along with the double voter thing, saying he’ll self resolve when there are no flips, saying he’s spewed by D1 posts we can’t see and pushing away suspicion by saying anyone that suspects him is scumclaiming. I’m not sure how much of that is trolling tbf.

Dom

I need to think on this, but thank you, Jack.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:57 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:44 pm @sprityo @Jackofhearts2005

Let's talk. Gimme a hot take.
Hot take on what dom?

Make a hot take. Show me you ain't the bad guy I think you are.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:03 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:33 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:31 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am So as usual, there is scum on my wagon. Except my wagon is like most of the players so...
You don't even know that you have a wagon.
I’ve been in every player’s bottom 3 at some point and at least 3 players’ bottom 3 right now.

With no real case.

Someone is faking suspicion on me. Probably a couple someones. Probably you.
I second this statement both about jack and myself

I articulated my thoughts on you very nicely.

You are choosing to ignore it.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:06 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:50 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:46 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:17 pm So.
Sprit keeps emphasizing how much I'm not participating.

I have more posts than he this day period.
Post number does not equal content

Also I’m not emphasizing it?
Footage Found
1. Exhibit A
2. Exhibit B
So the first one is a funny jab

The second is me explaining the truth to evenstar, one that you even acknowledged already as true? Don’t push your fake shade on me please

no no no no no no no no no

You can't be out here being like LOL DOM IS NEVER AROUND AND DOESN'T SHOW UP and then get shown up by me in terms of content.

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:07 am maybe doms the pawn partner with his awkward reaction to flipping on pawn?

i just realized that the scum in these layers can scumread partners without having to back up their scumreads with a vote so maybe theres more distancing than usual

what do you mean?

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:08 am Hot take like suggest some ridiculous shit or hot take like say some controversial shit. I don’t know how to do hot takes and wouldn’t know where and how to start

I dunno sprityo, talk about something game related that isn't just telling me why my suspicion of you isn't good.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:10 am I’m not being shown up by your content, I never have. I’ve been actively participating since the game started.

It’s more so it wasn’t until I engaged you earlier today that you started to put out content rather than shout blasphemy at everyone else who was also voicing suspicion on you due to your poor behavior on day 2

I didn't have poor behavior day 2, but okay.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:12 am (While admittedly we are doing the same thing) ummm I mean do you want me to lay out what I think of everyone? Is that what you want?

Are you looking for something like “I think evenstar and pawn are w/w”

Literally any theory.
I don't know why this is hard.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:14 am @Pawn Lelouch @iaafr

Why am I in your bottom three? Epi laid it out earlier for me, but I’m at a loss of why I’m there for you guys.

This is a good start.
It's an excellent question I didn't think of and one that I don't know the answer to. And it's an important one at that.

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