The Syndicate

Are you people serious?

I missed that the game had started and I have 47 pages to read!?!?!?

Summary pls

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:16 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:15 pm Are you people serious?

I missed that the game had started and I have 47 pages to read!?!?!?
Everybody, meet Dom.

I mean this in the best way possible....

Fuck you all

There’s a 0% chance of me reading 47 pages

I’m tempted to vote for Mac for simply being 10% of what I have to read.

I’m still at work, so there’s no way I’ll read this tonight.

Summary pls

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:12 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:10 pm [VOTE: Longcon] aubergine

Let's actually get some of the 1 posters to do something. @Longcon
Tru

Also have @Dom and @Quin still not shown up?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:22 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:20 pm I’m still at work, so there’s no way I’ll read this tonight.

Summary pls
Creature is obvious town to the point where people are worried there’s TMI among the people townreading him.

Here there be culture clash.

Eva made some nonsense charts and is therefore a wolf.

Hyena’s alignment is a point of contention.

LC has a food truck.

Where can I find Eva’s charts and should I iso Hyena?

Those are actionable items I might have a chance of accomplishing.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:26 pm dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird

the fuck is this

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:06 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:26 pm dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird
the fuck is this
That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3

why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:10 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:09 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:06 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:26 pm dom's entrance is okay but it's never alignment indicative i don't think

people liking him is weird
the fuck is this
That is fucking town, and I will fight you good sir if you disagree. :3
why are you answering for vanity?

also-- who the hell is eva? I can't find their name anywhere...
Eva is evenstar

There's no eva in that.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:31 pm

this diagram says I'm misreading this game badly somehow, 'cause either nutella is scum or my reads are shit

leaning towards my reads are shit

the fuck..... is this/???

cheeky bunch y'all are.

I have no idea what to do lol

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:51 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:50 pm[VOTE: hyena] aubergine
Why? Read his iso. Maybe you'll like him.

I don't like people answering for other players and then being defensive about it.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:51 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:49 pm I have no idea what to do lol
Throw posts at a wall till something sticks.

That's a bad take.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:15 pm Look, I object to Dom blindly hopping on the Hyena wagon when he hasn't read anything. If he has read Hyena's iso and come to his own conclusions, then fine. I just want to make sure he's actually giving himself a chance to see hyena town.

Haven't read teh full thing yet, but also it's 2 votes calm down helen

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:49 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:34 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:31 pm Also, I think Evenstar and Mac are scum and that they are distancing from each other. :3
Hoho, I'd like to see an elaboration on this.
Because neither one of them are serious trying to solve me right now, nor are they allowing me to solve them. I feel like Mac in particular doesn't want to interact with me at all. He's SCAAAAARED~! Even though she denied it earlier, Evenstar tried to pocket me earlier.
What have you said that I was meant to interact with? I have hardly noticed you. Forgive me please.

I wish I was scum with her. I wouldn't be this frustrated.
Me trying to provoke and accuse you of not wanting to look responsible if one of your invitees gets lynched D1. All you said was that I was right. :[ There was no denial, no argument about why that's a good thing, etc.

I WANT YOU TO FITE ME, MAC!!! ;[

tbh yuck

After a skim of the iso... just like... i see a player throwing everything to the wall and hoping it sticks

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:01 pm nutella is cheeky regardless of alignment in my experience.

I think there's sometimes more venom when she's bad.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:15 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:38 pm This sounds like scum caught for the wrong reasons.

-Angel
I'm not, and I don't see how you can feel so strongly that way just from this one thing. Again, have you at least read any of my other posts?

I can buy what Lamba says here. But I don't see the underlying cause either, so.

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:41 pm I'm just gonna keep trolling until it feels like a real game

which it does not

Do you know you have control of the content of the thread?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:43 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:10 pm also juliets making a wallpost on tsp and apparently taking multiple posts seriously is legitimately scummy, so says my intuition
I have to agree with this. That long post I just read did not sound like a civilian juliets.

I had to go back and find this post being discussed here.
It's yucky.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:02 pm I do not foresee supporting a Day 1 nutella lynch.

Especially not one based on a graphic damn organizer.

It's a stretch to call that a graphic organizer.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:17 pm @Epignosis that's fine, I do admit that I can't be sure he doesn't play similarly as scum, but I think other people who have seen him as scum also believe he's town here, plus I just get a really strong gut feeling that his loose and goofy tone is genuine and he's not hiding anything. he doesn't seem to care much what people think and that's a good sign.

Let me get this straight...

you don't know hyena well enough to define their bad game, but feel confident enough to define their civ game?

the fuck?

Mac I'm not doing that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm Mac I'm not doing that.
Can you at least like just tell me who you suspect right now and/or who your biggest town reads are and I can piece the rest together?

lean bad: hyena, vanity, juliets

lean town: epignosis, nutella (slight)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:36 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:02 pm I do not foresee supporting a Day 1 nutella lynch.

Especially not one based on a graphic damn organizer.
It's a stretch to call that a graphic organizer.
It's a work-related joke meant to amuse myself given what I go through.

You know my occupation... you know i get it.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:50 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:01 pm nutella is cheeky regardless of alignment in my experience.
I think there's sometimes more venom when she's bad.

I agree and almost included that thought. She is harsher, meaner, and I haven't seen that in this game.

Also, I see you hated my ISO too. I'm not likely to try one again. I worked hard and thought it was meaningful but I guess everyone is laughing at it. (I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I guess I'm just not good at it.)

It seems wildly out of character.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:07 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:00 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:15 pm Look, I object to Dom blindly hopping on the Hyena wagon when he hasn't read anything. If he has read Hyena's iso and come to his own conclusions, then fine. I just want to make sure he's actually giving himself a chance to see hyena town.
Why? I still don't.
what is the "why" in response to?
"I object to Dom hopping on the Hyena wagon when he hasn't read anything."

Would you object to Dom hopping on any wagon given that he hasn't read anything?
Well, yeah, I guess so. He doesn't have any good reasoning for any vote at this point.

....so Don is bad no matter what, then?

K

Orrrrr
I just shouldn’t vote? Does anyone really have a good reason to vote anyone on Day 1 even if there are 60 pages of what I assume is mostly bullshit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:43 pm Just looking at it right now and TSP has a wagon, Dragomir has one vote, LC and Rej have zero votes. I think the latter two need wagon formation.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
What the hell for?

[mention]nutella[/mention]
]nutella[/mention]

What do you think of Mac voting for Long Con for seemingly bad reasons?
Just wondering given your statements on other issues.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:54 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm Mac I'm not doing that.
Can you at least like just tell me who you suspect right now and/or who your biggest town reads are and I can piece the rest together?
lean bad: hyena, vanity, juliets

lean town: epignosis, nutella (slight)
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:36 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:02 pm I do not foresee supporting a Day 1 nutella lynch.

Especially not one based on a graphic damn organizer.
It's a stretch to call that a graphic organizer.
It's a work-related joke meant to amuse myself given what I go through.
You know my occupation... you know i get it.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:50 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:01 pm nutella is cheeky regardless of alignment in my experience.
I think there's sometimes more venom when she's bad.

I agree and almost included that thought. She is harsher, meaner, and I haven't seen that in this game.

Also, I see you hated my ISO too. I'm not likely to try one again. I worked hard and thought it was meaningful but I guess everyone is laughing at it. (I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I guess I'm just not good at it.)
It seems wildly out of character.
hmmmm Dom townreads me and agrees with me on something, is he bad
actually last time we were town together we had spats like normal for a while but eventually had mindmelds so like... it's possible for us to agree as town it just always feels weird to me (also I still ended up mislynching him in that game under exceedingly dumb circumstances)

I just have an automatic flinch reaction whenever Dom isn't tearing apart everything I say, but I think that's a bias I need to chillax on tbh. we have very different approaches to the game, but he's a cool dude and I don't intend to antagonize him all the time without good reason

that being said, at least take my read of hyena a little bit seriously

I am taking it seriously. I do lean town on you. But I still put pressure on my town reads.

But— I just don’t feel like I’ve found a better candidate yet. I’m not reading back to everything I missed. It’s too much. I also don’t think that should exonerate me. That’s dumb.

I will do my best going forward, but this game is moving way faster than I’d like.

Catching up and seeing I'm being called a low poster again LOL

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:06 pm Evenstar is scum. Lock it in. Don't listen to her.

I can buy this.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:07 pm I've had her since D2 and no one is listening to me.

Sprityo made a bad choice. I think the mafia may have gained some sort of advantage.

sprityo is also still bad.

But I thought you were bad Days 2-3 for being pretty lazy in your play tbh

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:20 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:06 pm Evenstar is scum. Lock it in. Don't listen to her.
Lovely, we get to redo the entire F3 but this time for a crowd.

I don't even know if you're scum or not; I just followed Sprityo because a 1/2 chance was better than a 1/3 one.

If you're town, get out of your damn tunnel.

You followed sprityo-- that's your problem.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:20 pm Also I wanted to lynch pawn ages ago is that still valid

Are he Eva and lady all scum together lolol that would be wild

Also from our group I'd say based on how our votes went the last few days and somewhat based on the creature kill, and a bit based on GH's juggernaut article, TLib would be a good lynch candidate.

Yes! Lynch pawn!

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:29 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:24 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:20 pm @nutella I thought Creature was an odd night kill. Did it make sense to you? I know vanity said Creature was town but he didn't have a high degree of influence in the thread.
He was sort of going against the grain in a way that seemed more threatening to the status quo than the rest of us lol, so it makes some sense. He wanted to lynch TL or LC so maybe one of those two are scum and didn't want his thus-far-unpopular attention on them to take off especially after the vanity flip would make us turn that way. Idk. Or wifom and all that jazz.
Fuck sakes how obvious can you be.

Did you reherse or is this just improv
Stop calling me scum when you haven't even read the thread. You sound so ignorant rn.

Didn't like this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:31 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:30 pm LLD started playing, I see.
yeah well I have to wake up sometime
You’re still dreaming!

I see Jack has gone back to not posting relevant things and just joking around now that he's not the focus of the thread of four.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:33 pm
I'll give you Eva later if you give me Nutella now

YUCKY !!!!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:42 pm Hmmm I think we should just lynch Evenstar and if she flips town lynch Sprityo? Seems like there is always a wolf between them no?

I like this.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:53 pm ... I just went through two days of hidden-vote no-flip bullshit followed by a F3 vs the king of slank and a homicidal turnip

and now I'm back,

and you just slanked until you got to a less terrible environment and now you're making excuses for it...?

... ok, I guess

I see you're still focussed on complaining about the mechanics and not baddie hunting, but your squad of defenders isn't most of the thread anymore so it really just doesn't have the same gusto it used to.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:42 pm Hmmm I think we should just lynch Evenstar and if she flips town lynch Sprityo? Seems like there is always a wolf between them no?
Um why not Radishes? I thought Eva got cleared and Sprityo seems real town to me.
What do you mean Eva got cleared? O.o

She didn't.

But she tried to clear iaafr with incredibly bad logic earlier.

Solo quoted catch up because holy fuck.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:03 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:00 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:42 pm Hmmm I think we should just lynch Evenstar and if she flips town lynch Sprityo? Seems like there is always a wolf between them no?
Um why not Radishes? I thought Eva got cleared and Sprityo seems real town to me.
What do you mean Eva got cleared? O.o
We accidentally saw Spiny's flip. The wording made her seem Masonic. Rabbit and Eva remembered a post Spiny made that called Eva town, thus we thought that might have cleared her.

(Eva had saved the post, convenientally.)

We had no thread access so couldn't doublecheck anything. I backed off Eva at that point until our Limbo dance because of it. But I'm just so tunneled into this now I won't let go.
there's an obvious reason why I would have that post saved if I'm spiny's mason, ya dingus

go trawl through the thread for it, I didn't make it up or whatever it is you're accusing me of

You knew to save the post that early because??

Did you know the threads would be separated? Why else would you specifically save a post? Why wouldn't you just know where to find it in an ISO?

If you WERE his "mason" you'd just.... reference the post within the thread and not know you should save it separately.

So what did you know and when?

Another page done...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:16 pm
But Radishes seems town af and you do not.

I like him better in this thread than I did in the others.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:18 pm
how the fuck are you qualifed to make that judgment when you haven't been in a thread with either of us for almost a week?

....This is bad at best. Rude at worst.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:26 pm I see Epi is still reposting the same walls from D2 as if they mean he has done real work this phase

good look

very convincing

Epi/Radish, as I have ALREADY argued AT LENGTH

-

i need to cool off

driving home, tag me with questions. I'll get to it.

I'm old enough to remember when Eva flipped out at me because I was being a "dick" (her words) to iaafr because I said his cases weren't up to snuff based on his reasoning for not posting them in the moment.

I'll elaborate.

Eva said I was a "dick" because I said that iaafr's cases did not warrant him demanding us give him time when it was just a list of names with short, bland descriptors next to them. I spent most of the day suspecting iaafr (still do). She emotionally flipped on me.

Here she is saying Epi's cases are worthless and making a similar argument to what I made in D2 or 3-- can't remember which.

So, did Eva genuinely feel I was being mean to iaafr or see a reason to go after me?
Because she can't genuinely feel this way about Epi's posts if she was upset about my pressure on iaafr.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:40 pm However Epi, Nanook said you were a common suspect on d2. Why was that?
I was not a common suspect Day 2.

Nanook spent all his time showboating because he helped lynch Dragomir. I wanted to lynch him for it.

I can confirm. Epi was not a common suspect Day 2. He was a common punching bag, but not suspect.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:01 pm Pawn probably killed nanook lol.
Lol, if I'm scum I killed someone with more actual content. I maintain Nook's kill was a framer one.

Then who's the framer? Epi?

And this is an awfully convenient reason to hide behind given that if you were scum you'd likely be able to see nook producing more content (reported earlier in the thread).

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:20 pm

Lol basically what I'm getting here is that Eva, pawn, and jack are all scum together. Except you think she killed pawn? Whereas I think pawn killed nanook for similar reasons as you think Eva did, and I think both pawn and Eva could be scum together meaning pawn was lynched not nked? Who else left the same time as pawn?

Also you seem to be assuming 112 is town. How confident are you about that?

I waver on Jack. I had been liking him more Days 3-4, but not before and since w'eve been back here he's back to joking about nothing all day.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:47 pm fine, you have a point. you just don't get to cash those reads in for towncred four days running. do more work. I have been doing work. It feels very much like I am one of like three people still actually playing this game.

...does anyone feel like a civilian makes this post?

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:05 pm You are either being the worst type of pedant or need to read the actual thread.

You're a hypocrite at best and bad in any case.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:10 pm All three I've accused.

Why yes, everyone on your wagon is scum. Never heard that one before.

Wow it's the argument that iaafr made days ago that you assured me meant that he was town.

What's changed?

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:10 pm All three I've accused.
You're being like the word I accused Dom of being that I won't say to avoid another mod warning. Couple that with having you in my bottom 3 for awhile? Hyena can wait, I want you dead now.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

I'm so freaking done with this.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:56 pm It takes me literally twelve seconds to copy and paste something down.
Why on earth have you copied and pasted what looks like Pawn's entire D3 case of you into your notes? Of what use did you expect it to be?

...you have access to old threads too...

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:00 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:59 pm Evenstar, if you are a civilian, then I need you to find Dragomir's partners.

If you are not, fine. I will vote for you.
Respectfully, go take a long walk off a short pier.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

I'm old enough to remember when Eva called me a dick for asking iaafr questions.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:05 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:07 am 10 pages to read, i can do this today.

My mafia reads from previous days Dom, Elephant, probably LLD and I need to read for more.
Town reads Quin, Pawn, probably all others in the last 2 days when we played in 5 except LLD

AMA
How strong are these reads and can you cliffnotes them for me again please. I kinda just want to copy your homework haha.
Very strong i will proove it with quotes since day 1.

I suspect Elephant since then. Now that Nutella says he masterminded Vanity's lynch this makes it like he is lock scum in my eyes.
I can look at this more clear because I still have day 1 feelings more close without dozen of pages of infos on top
What about Dom?
scum. Reading my notes looks like I was very confident when i had the read.

Without elucidation IDK what to do with this.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:52 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:43 am All you said about Dom is scum behaviour, i would put him very low in the Poe

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:43 am Eh sounds like town dom to me
Good job team we got this.
Michelle has played...2? games with Dom. I've played Many. Countless.

itsbeen84years.gif

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:20 am (That's a joke, Jack. I was going to use Dom for it, but he might complain about being a victim again.)

...I don't know what value you found in this post other than to just be rude to someone who you were absurdly rude to earlier again.

And I don't know what it is about your new people, but you clutch your pearls at me pressuring one of your friends, but hurl insults like no one's business.

Eva literally told Epi to kill himself and you're out here acting like I'm the problem.

Fuck off.

I'm caught up and am voting [VOTE: Eva] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:40 am Nova was also my fault. I pointed out his last minute vote on 112 that nearly prevented a Drago lynch. That + lack of activity = easy for scum to push the mislynch and no townie is going to put their foot down to stop it.

I wouldn't fault you for that.

We had no public vote count. No way to determine who was actually in danger.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:34 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:32 am I'm caught up and am voting [VOTE: Eva] aubergine
what do you think about Elephant?

I see someone playing illogically.

Not sure if it's bad, or just illogical.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:49 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:32 am ...I don't know what value you found in this post other than to just be rude to someone who you were absurdly rude to earlier again.

And I don't know what it is about your new people, but you clutch your pearls at me pressuring one of your friends, but hurl insults like no one's business.

Eva literally told Epi to kill himself and you're out here acting like I'm the problem.

Fuck off.
Dom, in retrospect you're right, my joke wasn't tasteful and I didn't need to post that. I'm sorry.

I didn't say much about you personally, other than agreeing you were being overly aggressive in your tone (and I used the d-word when referring to that). You keep implying you've been wronged here, and sure, you have, but your tone has been aggressive and in an unproductive way. That's not to say Rabbit and Eva and whoever else was innocent, but you can't point at someone else and say 'but they were worse!' because that doesn't absolve you of your own part. You can't rob a shop and then point at a bank robber and complain they did something worse; you both robbed.

Tl;dr, I agree, others went too far against you. I also maintain you went too far with Rabbit. You're also mischaracterising when Eva said, if I remember what you're referring to correctly, although I agree her words in general were part of the problem.

Can you and I, at least, put this behind us and move forward? I think we're reading the game similarly.

I don't agree with you in the slightest other than you have been the least terrible and I'm more than happy to cooperate with you.

I said a lot of stuff. What do you think?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:47 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:39 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:34 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:32 am I'm caught up and am voting [VOTE: Eva] aubergine
what do you think about Elephant?
I see someone playing illogically.

Not sure if it's bad, or just illogical.
do you mind to share a read?

I feel like I just did.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:54 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:39 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:34 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:32 am I'm caught up and am voting [VOTE: Eva] aubergine
what do you think about Elephant?
I see someone playing illogically.

Not sure if it's bad, or just illogical.
Could you please point out to me where I've been illogical?

You're voting for Michelle right now, that's a start.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:57 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:38 am What is the case against Master Radish? If it's been stated this day phase in the thread please tell me who and I will look at their ISO. The posts are running together a bit for me.
It was summarised in D4 as 'wobbly and inconsistent'.

My response to which is roughly: fair enough if it's been perceived that way, but I think it's been seen as such because (a) lack of previous threads made me adapt my usual style of gameplay, (b) lack of meta (I was the only one no one had played with before), and (c) I was trying to work around an Eva scumread when no one else agreed with me. One more I could add now: (d) missing most of my D1 townreads, leaving me with a bunch of nully mcnullersons.

As you can probably see, today I am a different radish. A happy radish. A radish with a mission.

I would agree that today you are much less suspicious than you have been in the past.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:57 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:49 am
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:38 am What is the case against Master Radish? If it's been stated this day phase in the thread please tell me who and I will look at their ISO. The posts are running together a bit for me.
There is none iirc.
What do you think about my case on Elephant?
Don't forget to tell me about Dom too I asked you few hours ago.
Michelle, regarding Elephant, have you read back on him from D2-D4? I'm not sure what you're basing your read on.

I answered the Dom question a little while ago. Let me know if you don't see it.

You answerted the Dom question a little while ago, but facts have changed.
What say you?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:57 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:55 am Sprityo's Evenstar compilaton is very much her style, and my eyes soon glazed over, but first I saw this line:
3: Honestly, given that Pawn missed the same thing I did regarding the doublevoter, I think you're overestimating how obvious the flaw was.
What was your doublevoter deal? Can anyone tell me more about that?
Oh, yeah. We figure Iaafr is the doublevoter since he pushed Drago but ended up not voting at EoD1.

"We" don't figure that.
You and Eva figure that based on pretty shitty logic.

If iaafr was the double voter, why not hide in the Dragomir train and the baddies actually don't know which dragomir voter is the doublevoter-- if any of them.

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:57 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:55 am
Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:54 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:39 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:34 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:32 am I'm caught up and am voting [VOTE: Eva] aubergine
what do you think about Elephant?
I see someone playing illogically.

Not sure if it's bad, or just illogical.
Could you please point out to me where I've been illogical?
You're voting for Michelle right now, that's a start.
Ok. I like to use my vote at this stage to indicate where my mind is at, and perhaps to get reactions. I haven't been able to put a complete case together, because I am still (!) catching up, but I don't think Michelle has a solving attitude towards me at all, and I scumread that.

You're catching up on what?

Eva
Pawn
Sprit

there be baddies

perhaps iaafr

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:08 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:07 am Eva
Pawn
Sprit

there be baddies
Eva and Sprit aren't w/w though. No way that F3 had w/w, otherwise it wouldn't have been so intense.

F3? I don;t ger your abbreviations

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:15 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:08 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:07 am Eva
Pawn
Sprit

there be baddies
Eva and Sprit aren't w/w though. No way that F3 had w/w, otherwise it wouldn't have been so intense.
F3? I don;t ger your abbreviations
Final 3. Not a real one, since we're all still here, but Sprit, Eva, and I went to 'Limbo' level together and had to vote out one of us. No way 2 of 3 sent there are scum for mechanics reasons and because the way the thread went it was obvious there were not two mafia teammates working together.

understood.

Maybe the vig doesn't give a shit about your POE

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:13 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:11 am Maybe the vig doesn't give a shit about your POE
Trust me, the vig will solve my POE.

Are you claiming the vig when you didn't know one existed until today while also claiming the mason?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:16 am Civilians are going to lose because the subject that should be the main focus of discussion is being overlooked.

Dragomir is dead. He was mafia.

Who are his partners and why?

Eva.
Let's kick her out of this game.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:36 am
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:31 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:24 am Evenstar, take a moment and think at the game as a whole please
I am, that's why I'm focussing on Epi today.
What do you think about Elephant?
Also Dom is very scummy in my eyes since that dream level we were in. How do you see him?

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Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:39 am I remembered to look through Spiny Creature's posts to see what I can glean.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:55 am
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar

so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.

that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.

should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P
Yeah, you should be nervous. You're probably reading "not stressed out by champs" as "town" here: as Pawn would tell you, I'm never certain anything D1.

Keep watching me; generally I slip somewhere in my tapdancing by D3/4 if I'm scum. (Like in WC1 with my hotdogs thing.)
thanks for reply.

@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
This exchange indicates that Spinyboo and Evenstar were not civilian partners, as once assumed after Day 2.

Huge agree.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:00 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:36 am
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:31 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:24 am Evenstar, take a moment and think at the game as a whole please
I am, that's why I'm focussing on Epi today.
What do you think about Elephant?
Also Dom is very scummy in my eyes since that dream level we were in. How do you see him?
Dom can't be scum. Not Radishes' partner, not Sprityo's partner, most importantly not Epignosis but ended in the same level as him.

I haven't played with Elephant for six days and haven't caught up on backlog, but from his interactions today he seems to be making a real effort to solve. Likely town.

Eva speaks like she knows more than us because she really thinks she does.

Why does she know there aren't two bad teams?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:06 pm Dom, nutella, and Jack:

When next you get the chance, would you take a look at the brief analysis I made regarding Evenstar and Dragomir from Day 1?

The link is here.

How does that color your perception of Evenstar?

The Eva you show there looks like a different player entirely. She flips on a dime the very next day on pretty much everything you observe.
Why?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:18 pm
Dom, I didn't have any opinion on your Day 1 play and there hasn't been enough today yet to give you a read. Is that what you're asking?

I posted a shit load of catch up content... any thoughts given you say you have no thoughts on me?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:55 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:41 pm The Eva you show there looks like a different player entirely. She flips on a dime the very next day on pretty much everything you observe.
Why?
My assessment of Day 1 had Evenstar in the upper echelon of civilianhood.

She has repeatedly taken a dump on my efforts, and went so far as to accuse me.

That's a really suboptimal play if you are mafia, is what I'm getting at.

Who says she plays optimally?

But point taken.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:57 pm Not to mention Pawn, colin, myself, Evenstar, and Radishes also were with Dom, but i think the general consensus from everyone minus myself and colin (maybe) would agree with you

You think the general consensus of those people is that I'm scum?
Why didn't I get lynched then?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:02 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:01 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:57 pm Not to mention Pawn, colin, myself, Evenstar, and Radishes also were with Dom, but i think the general consensus from everyone minus myself and colin (maybe) would agree with you
You think the general consensus of those people is that I'm scum?
Why didn't I get lynched then?
because they thought you weren't as bad as other's apparently

maybe they think youre Bad AND youre bad

Interesting take for someone I gunned for all of Day 3.

Eva made this post on day 2

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:16 am okay, so

rainbow lists are not allowed

but I think the following is in the spirit: I

Negative side of neutral:
Dom
Radishes
112
Nova
Colin/rej
Quin
Jack
Michelle

Positive side of neutral:
Evenstar
Macdougall
Pawn Lelouch
Lady Lambdadelta
Iaafr
Epignosis
Sprityo
Nanook

names not in any particular order, exactly 8 in each category even though it took some massaging

I don't understand what happened to her reads. Nothing organic.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:30 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:39 am I wanna know what @Quin thinks about all this?
he's pretty tired and regretful of not keeping up but unashamedly thinks he'll do better once more of you are dead

but not you mac, you should live

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:15 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:19 am quin pushed tsp in a not aligned way imo so I have him clear assuming tsp scum
this post is really interesting
also I did a quick iso of quin because people reminded me they exist

yeah, this can die

ideally vig it though

Eva is currently claiming vig.
Yet here she is doing the same on day 2, but nothing happened, as far as I'm aware.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:13 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:07 pm
Eva is currently claiming vig.
I believe if that were the case, I wouldn't be alive right now.

I agree we'd both be dead.

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