The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:47 pm >>>u dont have to read this post, its pointless and a waste of your time to read it, nothing game relevant<<<

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im already exhausted with this game and im wasting too much time on it like an idiot. ill limit myself to 1 more post on day 2 and then 10 posts per day phase for the following days. i will also refrain from defending myself and the only thing ill be doing is sharing my reads

i hate thinking that someone might be townreading me due to perceived AtE which would be wrong for two reasons 1) for a change i actually defended myself properly and the most "ate" i allowed myself to do was call posts silly or call plays poor, which wasnt even wrong and 2) it would be wrong since i do it equally much as mafia

im still in shock over the sudden 7 vote wagon on me that just came out of nowhere and ppl (potetnially town) popping in and faking their scumreads on me despite being town, justifying them on the spot only after seeing the consensus and feeling the need that that they have to be on the right side of history. what up with this lack of backbone? whats up with that circlejerk? or more like multiple people jerking off one person instead of doing it in a circle, i dont know the word for that though

if im right that people stopped scumreading me due to perceived AtE this just also isnt correct. i would have no qualms faking any kind of frustration as mafia, i am more cold blooded in mafia games than i am perceived to be, and i would derive satisfaction from fooling all of you in this very moment and gloating about it in this current moment if i was mafia

two wrongs just dont make a right in my eyes. it just wasnt done properly. there was so much stuff in this game that wasnt done properly. and i care about it so much because im so passionate about mafia and i want people to become better players but its inevitable that people will perceive my intentions as me getting mad that i got scumread and i didnt like it and i arbitrarily called the scumreads silly. like thats a possibility but its also a possibiltiy i actually analyzed them and found them absurd and me being on the receiving end could have been irrelevant, and really i just want to improve people's solving algorithms so that we can have higher quality mafia games on the syndicate. and i cant really prove that so it just boils down to anyone believing whatever they want. fmpov the game has crashed down and burned and even if we yeet mafia every single day phase for the rest of the game and sweep it will be hollow for me. comparing this game to my last two games here (bike and bread mafia) is like night and day. those two games were so much more elite and competitive than this one. its like that movie where that guy had those special glasses that allowed him to see that some humans are hidden aliens when he put them on. i briefly put those glasses on, i saw a bunch of ppl being aliens here, and u expect me to just take off those glasses and pretend i didnt see anything and move on? wtf how. this has just been way too absurd of a mafia game for me to take seriously. i think being a downer isn't +ev but i have a right to speak my mind and im going to take it, and i did put a warning that this post is pointless

finally i just want to stress again that i can easily fake all of this as mafia and i wouldnt feel bad and if anyone thinks its dirty for a wolf to play like i have this game then they can eat my dab cuz theyre being silly. the last time i wrote a post like this i laughed about it in wolf chat with alison and koba just saying

<3

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:25 pm jesus I'm getting outposted by wilgy what even is this

It's just a phase. I promise.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:56 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena
There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.

Out of the first group I can't but think it's LC. Like... Would it be detracting if I asked for people to vote LC and if not LC then yeet me?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm So I return to Cat still being bork'd

A falcon rally happened and then there's Thunal slightly behind.

Voting Thunal. Lets see what happens.
I was going to do that vote before I read this post... so don't count my vote as reactionary to yours, or you will get false results.
Thank you LC. You had scum read me earlier and I had scum read you as well. How are you feeling about that now?
Ehhh, I don't like Wilgy's announcement that he's voting Thunal. I like LC's reaction though.
Moving Wilgy down to scum, moving LC up to town.

why not?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:10 pm Thunal is mafia 98%.
You suspect me every game regardless of my alignment and it's getting a bit frustrating.
If this is true, I'd wager that you and Mac are W/V but which one is the W?
lol, this feels like a false dichotomy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:23 am Woah. Cat really formed a wagon.

Neat.

How is everyone?
I don't really believe Wilgy found it neat considering that he announced that he was voting for Thunal later, then voted for Falcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:10 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:09 pm oh and i think sloonei is village as well
Why is this?
I don't like the feel of Wilgy casting doubt on Dya here, especially after Dya flipped town.

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It doesn't even look like Wilgy announced he was switching his vote to Falcon! That screams to me that he was trying to just add more votes to the counterwagon.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Quote 1: Why does it feel false. I do still think that to be the case.

Quote 2: Why would I lie about that? What reason do you think I voted Thunal and then Falcon?

Quote 3: how is that doubt more so than a question? I wanted Dya's perspective on sloon.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:39 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:56 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm EoD1 Vote Counts (for my own note taking)

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena
There's at least one scum in LC, Wilgy, Radish, especially if Falcon flips town.
At least one scum in Nanook, Made, Tutuu, Ted, Mac.
Kyle might be scum for being on me EoD1 and sheeping Sloonei.
I put Jack as scum because I think Nute is town and because I'm betting that there's a scum. I'm reading Syn more town though, so Jack is scum by default.
Out of the first group I can't but think it's LC. Like... Would it be detracting if I asked for people to vote LC and if not LC then yeet me?
Maybe take me out to dinner first.

Hey man, you keep turning me down everytime I ask.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:45 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:44 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:43 pm read martin's iso, it's not a bad chop
k
Wot

How scummy am I? out of 10.

Yo Tim, is sloonei still scum.

Howdy partners! As you may know, I live in the frozen hellscape that is Houston, Texas. Our leaders may have decided that we peasants don't deserve the infrastructure for electricity that we pay for so I'll be freezing here and may not be able to post as much as previous.

Hello everyone. I have power again. What did I miss?

Are we advocating for early claims again?

That's literally never been a good thing.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:28 pm Hallelujah I can speak.

Thanks for figuring out my situation, y’all. I have been busy and did not keep up very well, so I just sheeded nutella at the end of the day.

I will remain somewhat busy for this phase. I have two wolves to analyze for associative reads. I intend to make that my primary focus, since I will likely be unable to catch myself up this phase, so I feel like this is the most effective use of my time right now. I will certainly be here to answer any questions that you all have for me.

yeet sloonei

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:19 pm Nutella is still on the poll...

Lets yeet her while she's away.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:23 pm I refuse to believe Tim holsters his shot if he really was a vig

I'd holster ur mum

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:23 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:23 pm I refuse to believe Tim holsters his shot if he really was a vig
I'd holster ur mum
:o

<3

112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:25 pm feels good to be right about nanook

I still want to yeet LC, Sloonei and you in that order. Is that cool?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:26 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:25 pm feels good to be right about nanook
I still want to yeet LC, Sloonei and you in that order. Is that cool?
I thought I was lock town, what is this?

Why are you lock town? I wanted to yeet you d1 and then stopped reading the game.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:26 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:26 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:25 pm feels good to be right about nanook
I still want to yeet LC, Sloonei and you in that order. Is that cool?
it's far out, but not radical

Alright, well Sloonei just argued that their life is more important than yours, so the new order is LC, you then Sloonei.

Glad we are all in agreement on LC.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:26 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:25 pm feels good to be right about nanook
I still want to yeet LC, Sloonei and you in that order. Is that cool?
I thought I was lock town, what is this?
Why are you lock town? I wanted to yeet you d1 and then stopped reading the game.
I was silenced Day 2.

Sloonei, I've silenced myself at least twice in my mafia career. I know you aren't above that.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:28 pm wilgy town honestly

The spinning anime girl speaks the truth.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:29 pmWilly, why LC?

Spinning Anime girl is 100% wolf btw, but I refuse to yeet her. Couldn't bring myself to do it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:26 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:25 pm feels good to be right about nanook
I still want to yeet LC, Sloonei and you in that order. Is that cool?
I thought I was lock town, what is this?
Why are you lock town? I wanted to yeet you d1 and then stopped reading the game.
I was silenced Day 2.
Sloonei, I've silenced myself at least twice in my mafia career. I know you aren't above that.
Doctor, I am not you. I'm not gonna do something like that. I'm safe and predictable.

Are you implying that I'm dangerous and sexy? because I am...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:34 pm no mafia kill

Incorrect. Mafia killed Nook. I know this because I did it.

TAKE ME IN BOYS. I CAN'T LIVE WITH THE GUILT.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 pm Spinning Anime girl is 100% wolf btw, but I refuse to yeet her. Couldn't bring myself to do it.
im town wilgy! :P

I wholeheartedly believe you.

welcome back jack, you ready to attack the whack crack in the faulty gack?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:39 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:35 pm @112
@DrWilgy
@Dyslexicon
@Hyena
@Jackofhearts2005
@Long Con
@Made
@Master Radishes
@MartinGG99
@Sloonei
@tedxtr
@hollowkatt
@Timsup2nothin
@TonyStarkPrime

kyle claims mech info that tutuu town
syn claims mech info that radish scum

game game game game
Probably you have to die both asap

Why not Kyle or Syn then? I'd yeet you if you weren't so darn cute.

Also sup? how are we doing today?

Are we discussing if we want to mech solve the game again?

This has worked 1/34 times we've tried it.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:06 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:05 pm Also sup? how are we doing today?
Hi friend! I’m well. How are things in casa de Wilgy?

Glad to hear! Things are abit sad and hectic in my neck of the woods, buying my first house soon and my pet parakeet passed away recently. Trying to keep my head up though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:08 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 pm player reads > mech reads

100% of the time
Which one is your vote on me?
A sheep vote.
Baah.

Baah ~~

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm also this thread looks like a field of well-grown GMO-certified "What the fucks" is going on

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm also this thread looks like a field of well-grown GMO-certified "What the fucks" is going on

Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:12 pm Jack: Tutu is always scum here.
Sloonei: Tutu is always town here.
Made: Tutu is obviously town. Wait, no maybe not.
Syn: Radish is confirmed scum, but there's no way I'll tell you guys why hahahahahahha

Me: Trying to go to bed.

Go to bed Dizzy, your health is worth it <3

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:12 pm Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.
This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?

Bad take, you know better LC and this is why you are scum.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:29 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

WAH you got me

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.

So why not yeet Syn?

lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:46 am Basically Syn has lost credibility for me in regards MR. I'm sticking with my town read on him.

And MR claimed that he didn't lie, only that his PM was received late. Scum have zero reason to lie in that situation at winning when it would have been called out almost immedietly.
So why not yeet Syn?
There is no way Syn is scum after all that

y?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:58 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:12 pm Pretty sure the game is ez money if we just yeet Sloonei and LC.
This is probably just scum Wilgy. Where is the reasoning? Does anyone care to hold Wilgy to account for his so-called opinions? Is this "edgy"?
Bad take, you know better LC and this is why you are scum.
I don't think I have ever correctly been told that I "know better than this" in Mafia. Trust me, I don't know better. I don't even know what angle you're taking here. Are you saying "well this is how Wilgy always plays, so it's NAI"?

I get that you don't know better. Perhaps the better way to say this is that I think this is unlike you.

Generally you and I have the same wave when we are town. Parse what information we have until the picture has narrowed down until we can shift into Maximum Overdrive. You and I are late game players.

Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:53 pm lol, there's scum here: tedxtr, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, tutuu
i think i know the answer, but are you telling me if i go into your iso and type any of these names it's gonna come up with a push on any of them?

LC and JPIC I've had scumleans on.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:05 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:01 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:56 pm<snip>

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:59 am Which champion will you retire today?
Poll runs till Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:00 am

112 1 Thunal33
Alison 2 falcon45ca, Hyena
DrWilgy 2 MacDougall, nutella
Hyena 3 tutuu, Sloonei, DrWilgy
Made 1 cat
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 1 112
nutella 1 Syn
tutuu 2 Made, Michelle
No vote 2 TonyStarkPrime, Timsup2nothin

Nutella and Mac scum read early in the game Dr.W, i don't think I need to dig too much to vote there now

[VOTE: Dr.W] aubergine

Darnnit Michelle. You qtpatootie, can't even sus you when you throw such a bad vote.

'I'll sheep these people' - qt

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:07 pm Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.
it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?

LC's been gunning for me d1 and the evolution seems incorrect per his normal mindset.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:19 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:10 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:03 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:58 pm

This entire exchange is bs
if you say so
let's yeet you! [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine
let's not. because that would be fucking dumb
Nah. I got no reasons to town read you.
explain your read on me then, in detail
Lol, you expect that out of me?

I have no reason to think you are town, and there's a bs conversation between you and a very hard wolf lean? A civ doesn't gain anything from that conversation. A wolf gets posts and it's free.

Null+Wolf line?

@Justplayingitcool this is what left a bad taste in my mouth for you JPIC. Just kinda lingered after that.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:10 pm and LC is just a villager, so one of your only pushes being a villager doesn't look too good

Why is LC just a villager?

Oh well.

Legacy:
Yeet LC, Yeet Michelle.

Throw Sloonei overboard if I'm wrong on both of these.

Good Luck! <3

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:07 pm Your sus on me for that matter seems off meta my dood.
it's day 4, how is his meta assessment "off"?
LC's been gunning for me d1 and the evolution seems incorrect per his normal mindset.
yeah but he's very likely cleared on mechanics and i can't believe you'd have him so strongly as a wolf if you've actually opened his iso

his interaction with me is probably one of the easier reads in the game

and that was...d2? so in between d2 and right now what have you done with your scum reads?

Lol, I stopped reading after d2 until early this morning. I'm now reading as I go between work to glean information.

Talk to me about this mechanical clearing.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:14 pm cmon wilgy you're not even reading the thread, villager you usually has ideas about what's going on

can't tell if you're going for the derp strats or if you actually haven't read the thread in either role, but gonna say it's slightly wolfy too since i think you like solving the puzzle and are more passionate about pushes

I like solving the puzzle with information that I have.

Given the ability to glean more data then sure. RN that's not possible.

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