The Syndicate

Oh, hello everyone. My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor!

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:08 pm y would u diss my friend alison like that her posts arent boring at all >:(

And this is the first post I've read. Out of context, all this has done has put that one Aisle 10 song stuck in my head again.

Is this related to alignment at all or am I needing to be involved in the game elsewhere? Talk to me Tutuu, what's good home dog skillet?

Also pour one out for dear Hazelnut. A shame she died horribly, Meerkat blood should be devoured fresh otherwise the soul escapes. Plus the remainder could have been turned into a good broth, with alittle bit of pickle juice for that extra kick.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:11 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:08 pm y would u diss my friend alison like that her posts arent boring at all >:(
And this is the first post I've read. Out of context, all this has done has put that one Aisle 10 song stuck in my head again.

Is this related to alignment at all or am I needing to be involved in the game elsewhere? Talk to me Tutuu, what's good home dog skillet?
i dont understand whats home dog skillet?

its related to something that happened yesterday, its probably not important for you

Did you contribute to 112's demise or Hazelnut's? If so, did you take proper care of the corpses?

Amy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:16 pm i'm now 2 for 2 dunking scum d1 on this website. might have to hang it up after this game to preserve the streak

Hello Amy, have we played together before?

Why did you dunk 112 and was there anyone you felt opposing your dunking of 112?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:16 pm Colin, Amy and proto look the best off the flip because they both made an active choice to vote 112 over me when they really didn't have to. Like proto explicitly said they had reasons to scumread me and still chose to vote 112 in order to save me, when if they were scum they could have reiterated those exact same reasons and voted me to save their scumbuddy. Colin did the same thing, they were like "yeah Alison is sorta scummy for XYZ reasons, I have her at 60-40 to be scum..." then voted 112 anyway. Not exeing there today.

tutuu still has scum equity because they did spend the entire day phase trying to shove the counterwagon to 112 but probably is less scummy from the flip because she did it in such a way that if 112 ever flipped she'd look awful, whereas I think scum usually try to go for more "plausible deniability" reasons to vote the counterwagon to preserve cred. Still could be openwolfing but I have her as like a light scumlean and not my top POE here. Also tutuu was somewhat insistent that if we weren't going to exe me we should exe 112 and not TH, which is a good look.

Mac is right that 112 being scum makes Urist look really bad - probably the scummiest of the people on my wagon. The "112 is cleared off there being no momentum to her wagon" stuff looks awful in hindsight and the way they moved off me when it looked like my wagon was losing steam and then suddenly jumped back on at the last second when it looked like I was a viable counterwagon again was really bad.

I'll sheep nutella's townread on TH/Wilgy for now and set that slot aside for the moment. Right now I'm just looking to exe someone on my wagon because I know I'm town so it's fairly clear to me that I was the counterwagon meant to try and save 112.

What do you think about the other 112 voters? Mac and TSP?

Thank you both for the insight.

Based on your descriptions alone I would say Mac can belong in towncore. I do not feel that he'd press a bus early on a teammate if there's no reason/need. The momentum he'd have to gain would have to be massively worth it for him to consider it.

linki: Who would the late voters on 112 be that would make a bus? Looking at the poll, a single vote swap would've made an easy tie.

Assuming was present for the vote, I find it very unlikely that he wouldn't chaos factor to try to save a teammate, but that's just meta.

Also, I'd like for some answers, here. If both 112 and Alison are on a team, how does that affect the towncore? Is this even possible?

Liki: I read nutella was murdered, looked at the poll and jumped in right where I said I did by responding to tutuu. I'll probably go back later and skim, but for now I want in your heads.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:34 pm [VOTE: Urist] aubergine

I don’t feel great about it tho

Boi, you good or bad this go around? Talk to me about Urist and Alison.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:30 pm Assuming was present for the vote, I find it very unlikely that he wouldn't chaos factor to try to save a teammate, but that's just meta.
I assume this refers to Mac?

If so I sort of agree that trying to create chaos during EOD to save a teammate is up Mac's alley based on what I've seen of his scum play. I don't think he's compelled to do it to such an extent that we should be townclearing him off it not happening though.

Fair

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:40 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:34 pm [VOTE: Urist] aubergine

I don’t feel great about it tho
Boi, you good or bad this go around? Talk to me about Urist and Alison.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:30 pm Assuming was present for the vote, I find it very unlikely that he wouldn't chaos factor to try to save a teammate, but that's just meta.
I assume this refers to Mac?

If so I sort of agree that trying to create chaos during EOD to save a teammate is up Mac's alley based on what I've seen of his scum play. I don't think he's compelled to do it to such an extent that we should be townclearing him off it not happening though.
Fair
What about them? Alison is probably town ig. Urist is mayve mafia, idk

This lad is bad.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:43 pm
Amy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:40 pm ==towncore==
alison
proto
colin
mac*

==lean town==
tsp
insomnia

==upper poe==
tutuu
wilgy
carotte

==apparently this person is still in this game==
10k

==lower poe==
nanook
urist
I don't know who insomnia is but this is basically exactly where I'm at right now

Also I have to go play MTG with a friend so bye for now

I wanna plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

I miss card games.

@1612 / @tedxtr - Post history
@Alison - Post history
@Amy - Post history
@Carotenoid - Post history
@ColinIsCool - Post history
@MacDougall - Post history
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Post history
@protocultures - Post history
@TenThousandCalories - Post history
@TonyStarkPrime - Post history
@Turnip Head - Post history / @DrWilgy - Post history
@tutuu - Post history
@Urist - Post history

This is the game.

Someone tell me why I'm right or wrong.

The wife wants to know "why does Skitty have a gun."

Amy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:13 pm i'm probably gonna poke around for some old 112 games just to confirm mac's meta tbh

but if it holds then yeah we can honestly just go urist=>10k and see what happens

Where does Nanook fall into this? How does Nanook compare to 10k

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:44 pm Also I hardclaimed cop and got 112

I don't like this concept.

I'd much rather lynch Nanook correctly here and get NK'd for it by tomorrow.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:23 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:44 pm Also I hardclaimed cop and got 112
I don't like this concept.

I'd much rather lynch Nanook correctly here and get NK'd for it by tomorrow.

Fuck. I quoted the wrong thing.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:07 pm f5 consisting of:

carotte
alison
tutuu
DrWilgy
tedxtr

are u guys looking forward to it? cuz i sure am!!!!!!

I don't like this concept.

I'd much rather lynch Nanook correctly here and get NK'd for it by tomorrow.

*fixed.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:52 am Town: Alison, Amy, Mac, Wilgy, tutuu

Lean town: Carotenoid, proto

Lean bad: tedxtr, Nanook, 10K, TSP, Urist

Skimmimg to catch up the past few pages of last night and I agree with this.

I kinda feel bad about TSP's entry to the day. The focus felt entirely on "who bussed?" Which felt like detracting behavior and excludes quite afew necessary people from discussion.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:28 am Nanook is at face value a fair place to be voting if you're town and aren't feeling the Urist suspicion. Right now if I was mafia with Nanook (and not Urist) I could see myself being tempted to just vote Nook and push there, but you'd also run the risk of needing to follow through with it immediately given how low in the POE he is. Mafia aren't going to win this game if they bus again this quickly, or find themselves cornered into doing so by a cadre of players more town read than them. This makes me think that it's a little more likely that Nook is being set up by one mafia to be tomorrow's misyeet.

Break this one down for me. This thought doesn't flow right my dood.
"Because if you were scum, you'd be tempted to bus a teammate Nanook and would need to put yourself in an uncomfortable position, Nanook is being set up to be a misyeet?"

Is how I read it and that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:40 am I'm no risk of being yeeted but given I actually kind of think Urist is town now (and Nook too tbh) it's important you stop omgussing me Urist.
On mobile so going to reply to your long posts here.

Fair enough re: timezones, I kinda forgot about that. But I still don't agree that your vote was impactful. I highly doubt that anyone in this game would be stupid enough to tie the vote, as either alignment. Especially since I think I was the only one who'd expressed a serious townread on 112.

Re: TSP... I absolutely agree on your analysis of TSP, he was probably my second choice yesterday and is definitely a valid option today for reasons I've already stated.

Re: Wilgy... I don't necessarily agree with this. I did heavily dislike the fact that he didn't post on d1, not even a "hi", considering he was active enough to post a few times in the upick discord. It looks especially bad knowing that 112 was mafia. The thing that gives me pause though is that in the middle of the day, 112 placed a silent third vote on Wilgy / TH. It's hard for me to see this as w/w, considering it was the 3rd vote and TH was probably a viable wagon at that point. I'd be tempted to say that Wilgy is spewed town if it weren't for the +wolf stuff I mentioned. In any case, I don't think Wilgy is a great option today.

This is a silly comment regarding me.

Feel like not much changed with my reads in my reading today.

Ted and TSP can be in my 'can see as bad' bucket.

Can see Urist as bad, but I'll admit to entering the thread with everyone going 'Yeah they probably bad.' does have a bit of sway in my head.

I've moved tutuu into more likely town than scum.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:47 pm Per anything else i have no read on urist and don't care to think about it.

I dislike this.

Even I have a read on urist even if it's mostly thread biased/artificial. There's no way you are null.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:17 pm wilgy is probably town

Talk to me about this. What makes you think this?

Im intoxicated and thing the enemy team is Nanook and TSP.

AMA

I'll policy dunk the she shit out of someone. Gibe the word.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:17 pm Cool I'm okay still voting turnip head today then.

Seems lazy. Talk to me about this.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:25 am 112 was clearly not going to wiggle out of that yeet, they didn't look like they even wanted to. Choosing to save them would mean that scum team essentially accepts defeat.

Ted can you expand on this? How would the save attempt mean an acceptance of defeat?

It's my understanding that there was at least some real suspicion in Alison as not all 5 could've been scum and that the votes were close.

I keep reading people on the lines of "who bussed?" And even Urist's most recent post seems to indicate that line of thinking during day 1.

As an exercise, I'd like people to tell me who is bad if no one bussed. Mine are Nook and Urist.

Nook feels off. Not sure how to describe his play outside of detached.

Urist's "vote momentum on 112 makes them civ" doesn't make sense and feels more forced than I'm comfortable with.

I'm back. Sorry for missing yesterday, mixed up which days the thread would be open and thought I had more time.

Why aren't we lynching Nanook?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:18 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:11 am I'm back. Sorry for missing yesterday, mixed up which days the thread would be open and thought I had more time.

Why aren't we lynching Nanook?
Same reason why we aren’t yeeting you or LC, there’s so little to actually scum read that we don’t know for sure who’s the scum, just that they’re likely to be lurkers / off-wagonners.

Well, perhaps we should murk the people who were actively on civ wagons day 1. I think it's silly that Nanook isn't being discussed as much as it should be.

Even a policy yeet on 10k or me should probably be more in discussion if content is the issue.

Re yesterday, I probably would've voted Nanook again without crying about TSP getting yeeted.

I don't feel as confident in proto as I was day 2, BUT they are still likely town. Sad to see our towncore decimated.

It's possible. Less confident in my Mac read. Just hard to see why scum Mac would bus day 1 instead of attempt a save.

Like it would need to be instructed by 112 in wolf chat to have then killed imo.

[mention]protocultures[/mention] why Mac over LC, Nanook and I specifically?

Going back through EoD1 to clear up some schitt i missed.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:59 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 am [VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

think his reads are barely progressing and most of the ones that are being changed are done for surface level reasoning that don't show depth of thought
feels opportunistic

I agree with this and wanted to bring this one back up.

Ted/Nook or Ted/LC?

Also, that was said when 112 and I had the lead in votes. It's possible that it was offered as the start of a counterwagon to 112 without directly jumping on me.

Other thing to note is that 112 was on me. Perhaps an avoidance of the th/Wilgy wagon was to distance while still offering an option.

Imma say that if Mac is bad here, give that boy a cookie.

I know he's a dubious one, but I just really don't think this is a world where Mac bad.

I can support this. I'll vote Ted and we'll see how the people feel.

(Though if y'all want to vote Nanook or LC, I won't stop you)

(Also Tutuu changed their profile pic. For a half minute there, I thought there was someone I didn't know of in the game d1.)

Also, allow me to voice a concern or opinion about this game.

With how much presence town seemed to have earlier in the game, I was of the opinion that the likely remaining scummeroonies were either a negative to neutral voter day 1 and a slanker.

Being 1 of 3 slankers probably makes it much easier for me to say well lets lynch the other two...

...BUT I STILL FEEL THAT IS CORRECT DAMMIT!

I want Carote thoughts. How do we feel about the rabbit?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:51 pm Also, that was said when 112 and I had the lead in votes. It's possible that it was offered as the start of a counterwagon to 112 without directly jumping on me.

Other thing to note is that 112 was on me. Perhaps an avoidance of the th/Wilgy wagon was to distance while still offering an option.
You're really quoting the post Colin referenced, a vote that was made at 2 PM, 12 hours or so before EoD and attributing it to me defending my scum buddy?

How do you expect that vote saves my "buddy" there? I didn't even look at the vote count , that argument is ludicrous. I just voted and then moved on.

Yes lol. Also kickstarting wagons is necessary if you are scum if you need to save a teammate. (Especially with enough time.)

Also it's not an argument, just a line of thought. Your response to this was not quite what I expected and strangely harsh in comparison to what I would have expected.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:53 pm Wilgy, 10000calories may have been slanking, but he was town, and so am I. What makes you think the game is as easy as slankers are Mafia?

Game tempo day 2 and 3-ish

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:51 pm I want Carote thoughts. How do we feel about the rabbit?
What are your thoughts about me?

Felt like you belong in towncore with your 112 vote and your behavior seems in line with your town behavior from pyre.

The towncore getting bopped makes me want to review you further, BUT nothing from you stands out as indicative of being wolf.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:54 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:51 pm I want Carote thoughts. How do we feel about the rabbit?
What are your thoughts about me?
Felt like you belong in towncore with your 112 vote and your behavior seems in line with your town behavior from pyre.

The towncore getting bopped makes me want to review you further, BUT nothing from you stands out as indicative of being wolf.
I didn't vote 112 though

Interesting. Even more of a review warranted then because must've confused you with someone else. Your behavior matching pyre still stands.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:55 pm Long Con
ColinIsCool
Carotenoid
Alison
protocultures
DrWilgy
tedxtr
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm partway through Day 1 here, and this is where my feelings are at. I sit, I read for a bit, I get up to get back to RL projects... don't expect me to plow through the whole game today, more like 1-2 pages every hour or two.

Recent Carote blurb

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:47 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME How do you feel about Wilgy pushing a narrative on you while he's pushing me for irrelevant stuff? Why do you think he isn't more sure about you toDay especially after having previous suspicion on you?

Dumb to ask Nanook outside of you wanting a narrative coming from someone besides me.

I'm voting you because I think you are scum. I'd vote Nanook as well on policy. I don't have 2 votes.

(this makes me feel better about Nanook though assuming Ted is scum)

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:10 pm I feel like we are overlooking the fact that Wilgy fits the bill of "scum lurker that fits on the Monte diamond of scum" fairly nicely

I don't really see why nobody's considering him.

His only slightly convincing push was on me, which was for a vote I made 13 hours before EoD and his view on the game stops there.

I don't like the fact that he's forcing his read on me in a way that is bullshit. This guy played Pyre and saw my emotions, and I was town there.

He literally has no reason to vote me over Nanook here from his PoV.

Wrong.

Don't like your lines, and I don't like your d1 action. I think that's plenty.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:14 pm This is probably going to be my last post for today, it's late and I'm tired ;

I was going to be pissed and scream but I don't think I'm in the position to really criticise the players

It was hard for me to get engaged in this game, I bet it was for other people too, i'm sorry to my villagers if I end up dying here - I really did try my best

Legacy remains - don't yeet Mac. I know he sucked this game and pushed every single villager yeet, however, I still do believe that he's town.

After my flip - please open up your eyes to the fact that Wilgy's in cruise control as of right now and he bullshitted every single scum read. If I'd want anything to be taken from me is this and the Mac read.

If I'm wrong on someone - it's probably Alison. Her being still alive and not being here to reinforce the read I had is bad enough as it is. I guess it would make a lot of sense with how we've been struggling to yeet a wolf all this time. This only applies in YeLo scenarios still and if Wilgy flips town after my death.

Proto, don't fucking tunnel Mac please. I know he was wrong ; that doesn't make people scum.

that's all

follow my legacy if you're going to flip me, please.

AH, the 'their reads are bullshit' without explaining why then dipping. Care to actually argue my progression towards you? Or how about how I'm interacting with people? 'His reads are bullshit.' is dumb and fake. Small effort argument.

Now, I will say, in spite of your blurb here rubbing me the wrong way. There is merit in the fact that it could come from a frustrated civilian. FOR some reason, I don't see this as the same frustrated civ that I've seen before in you, could be a mood thing or could be the fact that I was scum in pyre, BUT I don't.

Right now the lines I see

Nanook/Ted
Nanook/Carote
LC/Ted
LC/Carote

These 4 options feel right in my head, though I'm not sure which line is correct. Still pretty sure there's a scum in slanker, and scum in someone who didn't vote 112 day 1.

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