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by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:49 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:35 pm dunya please keep in mind the spaghetti nightmare that occurred during the eod3 during your analysis. The vote was down to Dom and Jack and most of us chose Dom over Jack, some of us switched our votes. Then Mesk was brought up as a better alternative to lynching Dom, which was accurate. If Mesk had flipped bad we'd have something to chew on. Then Jay got brought up and votes went everywhere, there was a 4 way tie at one point and at another point, a couple minutes from the end, Jay had the most votes at 5, and seemingly a second later Mesk was in the lead again.
All the more reason to call your votes.

Hosts could make a rule where a vote doesn't count if it's not called in the thread, maybe.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:53 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:51 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:45 pm @speedchuck
Those 3 points are all irrelevant to my reasoning.

I am town, and Mesk may have been scum (I didn't think so, but still).

To everyone else, I am 50/50. Lynching an inactive 50/50 town/scum or lynching, to you, an active 50/50 town/scum?

I will never see it as a safer bet to lynch someone with no posts after 2600 friggin' posts. Lynch anyone at this point so you can actually start links and patterns.

Yeah I was upset, I have been staying up till 4am every night in hopes of clearing my name (spriyto) and adding something useful. I was 100% sure before I fell asleep last night there was no inactive lynchings. I'm not being condesending or self-righteous, I think it's very scummy to go after an inactive after 2600 posts and 12 days worth of actual CONTENT. we're approaching Day 4. We have one townie flip (and it was an important role) to an inactive player who we can't read much into. It's not rocket science

I'm really sorry everyone, I am sad, but I don't want to be condescending that is awful and not who I am. :sigh: :sigh: :sigh: :sigh:
There there.

*stabstabstab*

(This is a thing now)
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by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:53 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:35 pm dunya please keep in mind the spaghetti nightmare that occurred during the eod3 during your analysis. The vote was down to Dom and Jack and most of us chose Dom over Jack, some of us switched our votes. Then Mesk was brought up as a better alternative to lynching Dom, which was accurate. If Mesk had flipped bad we'd have something to chew on. Then Jay got brought up and votes went everywhere, there was a 4 way tie at one point and at another point, a couple minutes from the end, Jay had the most votes at 5, and seemingly a second later Mesk was in the lead again.
All the more reason to call your votes.

Hosts could make a rule where a vote doesn't count if it's not called in the thread, maybe.
all games I've previously played in we had to vote by bolding the name of the person we are voting for, unvotes were the same, a bolded UNVOTE and the new vote. We were very strict with these, unbolded votes didn't count, if someone forgot to unvote the new vote didn't count. And we could analyze voting patterns so much better. Fun days.

Pretty much how it's done in NF.

Of course the Syndicate poll system has its advantages too. It saves the host a lot of work counting votes.

But there is something cathartic about writing a Tl;DR and ending it with [VOTE: ] aubergine
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:58 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:51 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:48 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:46 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:37 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:04 pm I wish you'd have lynched me, even! I wouldn't have even been mad. That would have been more useful than a Mesk flip.
I also agree that this is a pretty weird thing to say. What information would a civvie dunya flip give us?
I have been extremely loud and extremely vocal. You can delve more into my interactions with players, and check out who said what about me with actual context because I actually talk back.
I agree with this, but you should never abandon a chance to catch scum for information.

And it's not like a Dom/Mesk thing was devoid of information. It just had less of it.
Are you saying no one suspected me at all yesterday? Are you saying everyone suspected Mesk/Dom the most out of all players? I find that extremely hard to believe. Why are people afraid of lynching real players?
Stop generalizing. That's the path to the dark side.

5 people voted for Mesk, and they did for their own reasons. From what I understand, most of them interpreted Mesk's few posts as scummy and decided it's enough to lynch a low poster like her. We have to decide what to do with low posters eventually, so that might as well be it. Also a lot of players believe it's better for town is inactives are removed early since they don't add to discussion, which is a valid point.

Personally I'm only against lynching inactives because they usually get replaced or modkilled (though in this site I've never seen anyone be modkilled)
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:07 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

So... Dunya's outburst. Self-righteous rage over what she perceives is an unfair lynch? Or AtE?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Appeal to Emotion

Not really the best expression here but I wanted to make a cool sentence.

Basically... Jack you have been calling her fake since the dawn of time. Do you still think that?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:14 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:10 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:58 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:51 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:48 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:46 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:37 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:04 pm I wish you'd have lynched me, even! I wouldn't have even been mad. That would have been more useful than a Mesk flip.
I also agree that this is a pretty weird thing to say. What information would a civvie dunya flip give us?
I have been extremely loud and extremely vocal. You can delve more into my interactions with players, and check out who said what about me with actual context because I actually talk back.
I agree with this, but you should never abandon a chance to catch scum for information.

And it's not like a Dom/Mesk thing was devoid of information. It just had less of it.
Are you saying no one suspected me at all yesterday? Are you saying everyone suspected Mesk/Dom the most out of all players? I find that extremely hard to believe. Why are people afraid of lynching real players?
Stop generalizing. That's the path to the dark side.

5 people voted for Mesk, and they did for their own reasons. From what I understand, most of them interpreted Mesk's few posts as scummy and decided it's enough to lynch a low poster like her. We have to decide what to do with low posters eventually, so that might as well be it. Also a lot of players believe it's better for town is inactives are removed early since they don't add to discussion, which is a valid point.

Personally I'm only against lynching inactives because they usually get replaced or modkilled (though in this site I've never seen anyone be modkilled)
do you think, in general, people are afraid of lynching vocal players?
I think it might be a trend, sure. Though there might be an opposite trend at the same time (I'm itching to lynch a scum Jay because I've never seen it).

I'm just saying there is some merit in lynching an inactive. Strategically speaking.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:16 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

[mention]Quin[/mention] can you point out the time where you voted for Mesk (as in, close to what post of yours it happened?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:16 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:19 pm The same question can be directed towards @Spacedaisy for voting Dom.
Spacedaisy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:13 am
I'm not above voting an inactive player. I really think this is a discussion that should be had outside the confines of a game sometime, because I think "the maths" support lynching inactives when you don't have a firm lead taking you elsewhere. This is why my vote is currently on Dom. Despite everything we have had go on in these first two cycles, we have no solid information and we have been talking in circles around every little thing for so long that I feel like my reads are getting super muddy in my mind. So I am ok with voting out Dom who has done nothing at all.
I wasn't really asking why people voted for Mesk/Dom, I was asking "didn't you have anyone you thought was scummy who'd actually contributed to the 2600 posts?". So buy reading your explanation, are you actually saying you don't have any stronger leads than Dom at this point in the game?
Did you have any lead so strong that you were sure about? Because I think the point here is that none of the civilians did. 2600 or 26000 posts is irrelevant when we have no investigation results or role flips, we are still making barely educated guesses.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:09 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:58 pm anyone can technically be mafia as much as anyone else
That's not true, though. Some people are slightly more likely to be mafia than others. The point is to determine who are those.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:10 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Also I disagree a Dom lynch would have given zero insights. The mere fact there were people supporting and opposing it provides insights.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:58 pm anyone can technically be mafia as much as anyone else
That's not true, though. Some people are slightly more likely to be mafia than others. The point is to determine who are those.
that's basically exactly what I said.
Does not compute.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:24 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:51 pm The options were lynch Jack or lynch Dom, I decided a Dom lynch was better.

votes shifted

the options were then Dom or Mesk, Mesk seemed like a more ideal choice to me.

the votes shifted again.

It was now Mesk or Jay, I didn't feel confident enough in the case against Jay, which had basically just become relevant at that moment, so I kept my vote on Mesk.
Were you creating the options or just reacting to them?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:45 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

dunya wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:55 pm
malakim2099 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:42 pm For the record, far too early for me (got to page 11) to get any sort of good reads yet, BUT when you talk about lynching a player spot immediately after they've been replaced? That seems fairly scummy to me. Especially with the meta-logic of "well, they were replaced so they must be mafia" which is, frankly, crap logic.
I'd also like to point out I replaced in before you, and I'm town. There were three other inactives, Mesk, you, and insertnamehere (who became inactive after replacing another inactive). Is it likely all 4 inactives were town and not even 1 was mafia? Possible, but I wouldn't call it likely.

I'm town, Mesk flipped town, so the logic that you COULD be scum isn't fool proof, but it isn't coming straight out of my ass either, I reckon. Read on, show us what you got. I've been in your shoes and it wasn't a fun process--especially when the person I replaced was a lynch-candidate the day before I replaced.
Your statistics are non-sensical. Pick any random group of four players. Is it likely all 4 are town? Possible, but not likely. That has nothing to do with they being inactive or not.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:53 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 3]

Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:09 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:05 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:34 am I wasn't planning on thoroughly looking at J³ until tomorrow, is there a significant chance that he's mafia
would you have voted for him if someone had said yes?
If someone had shown me a convincing enough case in those 11 remaining minutes I might have.
Are you making cases or waiting for people to show them to you?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:08 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

malakim2099 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.

Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.

Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
Most games in the Syndicate janitor every night kill by default.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:10 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 2]

dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:51 am
Elohcin wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.
I don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.
She can be 100% honest in that post and still be bad.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:13 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Voting Jay. Seems like the best lynchee so far.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:18 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Quin wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:16 pm @Quin can you point out the time where you voted for Mesk (as in, close to what post of yours it happened?
At the same time as Epi voted for Dom. I was the first on her.
Hmmm from what you said in that post and the following one, it didn't seem you were voting at that point. "Let's lynch lasagne" doesn't really mean "I'm voting lasagne right now". And I wasn't around so I couldn't see when you voted.

But I'll believe you. THis does force me to drop the suspicion on you for now. Though such a push on Mesk is more NAI than anything in the end.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:20 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:09 am @Kylemii

I like your new Carmen Sandiego avatar.
Thought that was some Pokemon character.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:09 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

I don't mean she wrote that post to manipulate people.

I mean she could just have written that post honestly and emotionally beause she is tired and busy and disheartened... and still have a bad role card.

Mafia alignment isn't always related to character. Good people draw mafia roles all the time.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Different types of games fit with different mechanics. I like the Syndicate's game style, don't need it to change.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Sloonei wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:17 pm What are the reasons we are all voting for Jay today?
Who's suspect #2 after him?
I'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.

I don't want to lynch Malakim today. Give him time to breathe. Day 5 onwards is fair game tho.

But above all, I wanna follow up on the case I made last night. Jay's playstyle in this game is weird as fuck. He needs to be lynched for that. Or be forced to defend himself. So far his defense has been pitiful.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Sloonei wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:01 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:17 pm What are the reasons we are all voting for Jay today?
Who's suspect #2 after him?
I'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.

I don't want to lynch Malakim today. Give him time to breathe. Day 5 onwards is fair game tho.

But above all, I wanna follow up on the case I made last night. Jay's playstyle in this game is weird as fuck. He needs to be lynched for that. Or be forced to defend himself. So far his defense has been pitiful.
"Weird as fuck" is the least descriptive vote justification in the book. What's weird about him, and why is that weirdness bad?
I wrote a big paragraph about him. People said it was poetic, in fact.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:09 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
Replies: 6258
Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:21 am I'm still reading page 63 but I'm an impatient kid right now so imma leave this thought.

Usually whenever I play a game that has both Jay and Sloonei in it, I feel like Sloonei is Jay #2.

Like, their playstyles are very similar, but Jay is the protagonist. Sloonei is the sidekick. Jay leads the town. Sloonei helps. They are a fearsome civ duo that way, actually. The Jay 1 and the Jay 2. You don't want to cross their path if you're bad.

In this game, Sloonei is Jay #1.

He leads the town. He leads the conversation. He is the is the guiding light that will take us to victory, or to our doom. But he is the one steering the wheel.

Whatever Jay is, he is not Jay #1. Or even Jay #2. He is something else and I don't know what that is.

At this point I'd expect to be drowing in a sea of Jay. To have so much Jay around me I could barely breathe. But I can breathe just fine. Jay is talking, but he is not seizing control. He is engaging, but not in a way that makes me feel like he is trying to produce perfect reads on everyone on day 1, to make everyone interact with each other, to move the game forward.

He is not in his element. Something is wrong with him. So I'm itching to call him bad. Although, it is possible he might be busy or distracted or just having a bad civ game. It happens. But he is not the civ Jay I know, I'm sure of that.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:05 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Hope you dont mind being called a sidekick btw. It's just Jay is more... Jay.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:54 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

speedchuck wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:59 pm I'm going to throw an early vote on JJJ. See what happens.

I may be busy most of today, but I'll try to keep up.
Where is that vote?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:16 pm I said I was going to put reads in this thread and I will. I do not have time to be Jerry Seinfeld and I don't give a shit about trying to be Jerry Seinfeld. I frankly don't see how there could be any impression that I give a shit about trying to be Jerry Seinfeld or any other generic super-civilian cookie cutter rendition of myself given the posts I have made in this game. This variety of meta read is bogus, as though JJJ suddenly forgets how to make a million posts when he draws a mafia role.

There's a reason I am only here during brief windows right now. That won't change for the foreseeable future in this or ensuing games. I implore the civilians in this thread to engage a broad dialogue whether I am your locked vote or not. Nothing is friendlier to the mafia team right now than a continuing focus on me, especially when I am in no position to engage the discussion.
You have 141 posts in this game. You are the 10th biggest poster. Your post count is lower than usual, but I don't think anyone here thinks it is insufficient.

But your playstyle is different. You are more reactive than usual, you use your methods like asking people questions and the GTH thing but you don't arrive to any useful conclusion with them. You don't participate in the discussion most of the time. You playstyle seems like a faulty mimicry of your real civ one.

Now, I will believe you are being affected by real life. The question is: is real life affecting your ability to play as a civ, or is it affecting your ability to fake your civ meta as a bad? Would a civ Jay, in this situation, be quality over quantity and try to reduce the amount of reads and usefulness but still be an useful voice in the civs' quest? Or an I tinfoiling and you being busy really causes a drastic change in your ability to contribute?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:32 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:40 pm I was pinged by Jay's lack of focus tbh and the fact he didn't direct a single suspicion towards me. That's very unlike him. He usually kills my game when I'm townie, and frustrates me till I start dreaming of rage quitting. :P When I named him as a suspect, I hoped it would trigger a different kind of response where I could be sure of his towniness, as I have been in past games. How will Jay respond? That is a huge tell all in itself.

I feel a bit mean though, because I know what he's going through IRL. He barely has time to talk to me, even. It's close to end of semester and we have exams and assignments due.

I believe he replaced into this game same reason I did (a sort of sense of obligation, let's say), and while I pretty much screwed off my exam studying time to get up to date with the thread the last 2 days, I think Jay values his education before mafia (smart guy. smarter than me, probably. definitely).

I was never going to go through with lynching him without giving him time to clear himself or sufficiently fend off accusations thrown his way. The fact he has so much suspicion on him and didn't bother going through them all does not strike me as "giving up" as Sloonei put it (and I'm surprised he could think Jay would give up). On the contrary, it had an opposite effect on me and I've played plenty with Jay (and scum Jay) to know that like me, he'd defend himself till the last dying breath. It's basically like this grad student has exams man. Let's cut him some slack for not spending 5 hours playing online mafia.

no lynch Jay today. I urge you all to reconsider and look elsewhere.
Hmm

You have a point here. I'm somewhat bothered by how easy it is. To lynch baddie jay.

I was expecting by first showdown with bad Jay to be more epic. With more blood and sweat, self-doubt and last minute vote changes. This feels like kicking a puppy.

If not Jay, then who should we lynch?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

There is a rule I've learned through a lot of failure here.

It's never easy to find a baddie on Mafia Syndicate.

I'm not saying Jay couldn't break this rule, but it's weird for him to be the one who does.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:47 pm
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Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:42 pm I think @insertnamehere and @sig need to be replaced asap. It's really not cool for people to sign up and drop off the face of the earth. :ninja:
I think is marmot had a replacement he would have already used it.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:01 pm
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Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:52 pm are you keeping your vote on JJJ, DDL?
Maybe.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Views: 180414

Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

I'm also bothered by the lack of votes in this day.

If Jay is bad, it would make sense for there to be some counter-wagon by now (maybe Wilgy is the counter wagon?). And I don't like how everyone who is voting for Jay is someone I'm currently townreading (well there is Jack, but I like current Jack more than Day 1 Jack so i'm still on the fence about him). Maybe mafia is just watching from afar, since the civs are doing their dirty work for them. So they don't need to expose themselves, by making bussing too obvious or risking discussion going against them.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Ok let's see what happens if I *vote malakim*
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Let''s assume there was still a save in the Mesh lynch. And let's consider I hate the latest post of his. And I don't feel good about his buddying of me about voting Quin.

I did say I wanted to give him a day, but I want to lynch scum more.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:32 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:30 pm
Quin wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:16 pm @Dragon D. Luffy , please show posts where I take the lead on the Lasagne lynch.
speedchuck , please show posts where I was hands-off the Lasagne lynch.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:18 am
Quin wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:16 pm @Quin can you point out the time where you voted for Mesk (as in, close to what post of yours it happened?
At the same time as Epi voted for Dom. I was the first on her.
Hmmm from what you said in that post and the following one, it didn't seem you were voting at that point. "Let's lynch lasagne" doesn't really mean "I'm voting lasagne right now". And I wasn't around so I couldn't see when you voted.

But I'll believe you. THis does force me to drop the suspicion on you for now. Though such a push on Mesk is more NAI than anything in the end.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:32 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

My turn.

[mention]Quin[/mention] please participate in the current discussion.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:33 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:26 pm I feel my thoughts are very much in sync with DDL.

I am hesitant to vote Jay with him, but "I like this Jack more than Day 1" Jack sums up my exact feelings.
What about voting Malakim with me?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:37 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:26 pm I feel my thoughts are very much in sync with DDL.

I am hesitant to vote Jay with him, but "I like this Jack more than Day 1" Jack sums up my exact feelings.
What about voting Malakim with me?
I like your gall and how you're leading stuff. :clap:
Thanks, because I have no idea what i'm doing. :grin:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:38 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:35 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:26 pm I feel my thoughts are very much in sync with DDL.

I am hesitant to vote Jay with him, but "I like this Jack more than Day 1" Jack sums up my exact feelings.
What about voting Malakim with me?
I can't promise to not swap later.

*Malakim*
Reminder the last time I did such a push I CFD'd a guy for posting only smileys. :grin:

(no seriously I'm having self-doubt about every possible lynch someone HELP)

(but this does seem more informed than the smiley CFD)
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:39 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

On Wilgy: I can't read him to save my life. That's why I'm mostly avoiding him.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:44 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:41 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:39 pm On Wilgy: I can't read him to save my life. That's why I'm mostly avoiding him.
Pokemon mafia was fun. I am sorry for that however.
I was already aware of my difficulty reading you before then, tbh. You could say I let my guard down in that game.

I did track you, though. But fuck G-Man.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:48 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:41 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:32 pm My turn.

@Quin please participate in the current discussion.
I am referring to what you say here:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:06 am Like in here, Quin started pushing the Mesk lynch before everyone. He pushed and he pushed until people took the bait. If one of Jay or New Dom is bad, Quin looks terrible. On the other hand, it is a risky play for a baddie. He more or less took the lead on it.

Or did he? He was the fourth one to vote in the poll (can we trust the pool order, btw? This site changes too much). That means he kept suggesting it until some people voted for her, then jumped on the wagon himself.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:08 am Quin is the main actor in the death of Lasagna. Should we crucify him for it or treat it like a civ goof?
In what posts do I "push and push until people took the bait"? In what posts was I the "main actor in the death of Lasagne"?

I'll say now in re-reading that, I don't like the phrasing "took the bait". It sounds like you've already decided I'm bad.
The point is that I read your post where you announced a vote, failed to notice you were voting at the time, I thought you made 2-3 posts telling people to vote for Mesk but not voting yourself. Because you announced your vote in a non-clear-enough way.

Also I like to sound like I already decided people are bad. It's fun that way.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:49 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:41 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:39 pm On Wilgy: I can't read him to save my life. That's why I'm mostly avoiding him.
Pokemon mafia was fun. I am sorry for that however.
I was already aware of my difficulty reading you before then, tbh. You could say I let my guard down in that game.

I did track you, though. But fuck G-Man.
Lmao, ain't that some shit.

DDL can you guess my top two Civ reads?
Do I win money if I do it? It sounds hard.

Let's say... nutella and Epi?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:55 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm @malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?
I suggest you take a look at the street fighter game: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... alakim2099
He was scum here.
Your link is broken. You accidentally mentioned yourself while typing it.

Also the forum is trying to force me to mention you too. It has had this kind of bug for weeks now. [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:56 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:54 pm I am currently debating a vote for either Eloh or Kyle. Somebody talk to me about these people.
If Jack is good then i'm contractually obligated to think Kyle is bad.

Or announce a post I made on Day 1 was full of shit, but that would be no fun.

Now seriously, I've been having this lingering suspicion of Kyle for a while, but it's never strong enough.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:02 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:58 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:56 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:54 pm I am currently debating a vote for either Eloh or Kyle. Somebody talk to me about these people.
If Jack is good then i'm contractually obligated to think Kyle is bad.

Or announce a post I made on Day 1 was full of shit, but that would be no fun.

Now seriously, I've been having this lingering suspicion of Kyle for a while, but it's never strong enough.
Where did this lingering suspicion come from?
From reading his posts.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:02 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Spacedaisy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:55 pm
dunya wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?
I suggest you take a look at the street fighter game: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... alakim2099
He was scum here.
Your link is broken. You accidentally mentioned yourself while typing it.

Also the forum is trying to force me to mention you too. It has had this kind of bug for weeks now. Spacedaisy
When ever you try to quote a post that has an @mention in it, you have to delete the @mention to avoid that problem. Otherwise it sees the original @mention and gets confused.
Oh I haven't tried to do that. Thanks.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:12 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

Kylemii wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:06 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:02 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:58 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:56 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:54 pm I am currently debating a vote for either Eloh or Kyle. Somebody talk to me about these people.
If Jack is good then i'm contractually obligated to think Kyle is bad.

Or announce a post I made on Day 1 was full of shit, but that would be no fun.

Now seriously, I've been having this lingering suspicion of Kyle for a while, but it's never strong enough.
Where did this lingering suspicion come from?
From reading his posts.
full respect, DDL but that seems like kind of a weak explanation
If I had a better one I'd have given it.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:21 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:04 pmI'm not hiding behind anything.
You see thats the difference between you and me Kyle. I'm always hiding behind a facade of smiles and forced concepts of self worth. Even a facade of hope to an extent. Anxiety and depression is a real bitch.
:hug:

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