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by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:38 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

S~V~S wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:15 am
Scotty wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:02 am
LoRab wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:22 pm super classy lynching me when I couldn't be online. I'm pretty sure I'm done with mafia. I may come back for games here and there, based on hosts. but, yeah. I think I'm done.
Im sorry you feel that way, LoRab. I also know how frustrating it is to be suspected and not have the time to properly defend yourself in general. But a new game will emerge, and every game is a fresh start. I look forward to playing with you again!
In the original culture that many of us came from, like Daisy, Golden, Juliets, LC, LoRab and myself, we had a lot of social norms. We did not lynch people who could not defend. It was considered common courtesy. Whether that meant because they were silenced, or whether they were out of thread for real life (LoRab is a Rabbi, and it is Passover, even if she was a low poster anyhow). Some things about the melding of cultures have been good for us, some perhaps less so. We play a more aggressive win-focused game than we used to and are conforming more to the norms of the wider Mafia world, but we have given up some of our charm and kindness in the process, imo.

So that is the context of her comments. I hope it is not so, LoRab :hugs:
So what happens when the inactive is bad and never comes back? We surrender and let them take the win?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:27 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

I dont think lorab was abusing anything, I think she is legit busy for reasons we have nothing to do with, which is fine. I usually give inactives some grace time myself.

But sooner or later the grace time ends and the game moves on. How many active, interested (and civ) players need to be kicked out of the game so the inactive can have an extended grace period?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:28 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

Yeah I'd like to see modkills too myself.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:34 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

That said, TS is still the nicest place I know in the internet. So it's more like you guys went from Barney the Dinosaur to Carebears.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:37 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

S~V~S wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:33 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:27 am I dont think lorab was abusing anything, I think she is legit busy for reasons we have nothing to do with, which is fine. I usually give inactives some grace time myself.

But sooner or later the grace time ends and the game moves on. How many active, interested (and civ) players need to be kicked out of the game so the inactive can have an extended grace period?
I don't think anyone is saying anyone was "wrong", just explaining context. We're weirdos sometimes :cloud9:
It's okay, sorry if I'm coming across as wanting to fight. I love you guys, and it makes me feel bad when I'm being told my actions are making the place less friendly. It's definitely not my goal. I just like to separate the game from friendship. Like if I kill you here, I still like you outside of here.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:47 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

I almost had a modkill in Image Mafia but was too much of a wuss to do it.

Also I wanted to have a 2v1 ending badly.

It's definitely something that will be considered for future games though
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:18 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

I'm not voting for Quin or Blooper.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:19 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:55 pm Look at this early Cerberus post:
Spoiler: show
Boomslang wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:44 pm Ok, all caught up. I don't like Sig's explanation of the haiku confusion on a personal level, but I guess that's a playstyle disagreement. Not going to push it when we have juicy nightkill responses to make.

I wasn't involved in killing Blooper, but I strongly suspect that whoever did kill her is laughing their asses off at the WIFOM they just created. I'm betting it's one of the older players who understands the couples meta. Coupled with sig's good point about a ballsy scum team being willing to NK their own for the wifom...

Marmot needs to show up and give us something to chew on. Wilgy has also been super blendy so far. About the only thing we've gotten from him is some gentle needling of Sloonei based on a point made by Scotty. And a cryptic comment about Kyle — why is he a "hero and patriot" for voting Blooper?

I also have an eyeball on Lorab right now. "Ugh. I have no idea where to vote. I don't actually suspect anyone" at the end of Day 1 is so noncommittal, then she votes Sloonei for "peer pressure" and the active voices in the thread don't really get on her for that lack of reasoning. She then jumps in, first post of Day 2, to begin the WIFOM about me and the Blooper kill.
He nailed all three of them.
After FE Nutella I believe in nothing.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:41 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

Boomsland - good
quin - good
blooper - good
sprityo - bad
bob - bad
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:46 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

nijuukyugou wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:52 pm I’m back from the beach, yay! What’d I miss? :grin:

Just kidding - I’ll read. But any help is appreciated.
What do you think of Boomslang?

Everybody is trying to read him rn.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:07 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

S~V~S wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:54 pm First reaction post to LC being lynched as a baddie:
Re: Cerberus Tribe - Night 5
#1192 Post by insertnamehere » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:14:00 pm
okay what the fuck

did eight people vote for LC on the other tribe?
Um dude he was bad?

Yeah, Scotty, I still don't feel great about you. But I also revived my suspish of INH. Squeee.

I will reread post death sprit and Bob a bit later. But based on what I read in Cerberus, I would be inclined to vote Boomslang if no one I suspected of recruitment was on the poll. The fact that Boom is a low poster with various levels of suspish throughout the game yet he has not been NKed is intriguing. Plus wasn't the biggest fan of his Cerberus Day 5. Hindsight is a beautiful thing :D
This is literally the reason not to lynch CBob imo.

You kill people who are not likely to be lynched, and leave the ones who are easy to lynch alone. Bonus points is that you get rid of town leaders and reduce the productive discussion in the game.

Besides, with this many failed kills, the population of people mafia did want to kill but failed is pretty high...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:08 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

EBWOP: reason not to night kill CBob.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:09 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

Scotty wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:06 pm Where is DDL? Paging Doctor Drunk Lips where is u
Studyi8ng, then dancing, then getting addicted to some silly card game, then studying again, then coming here to drop a vote before I disappear again.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:13 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

First we all agree his activity post death dropped a lot.

Second, I'm willing to policy lynch him on that bastard role claim. If he's telling the truth we at least get rid of a role that could be bad for town, so it's a win-win situation.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:17 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

S~V~S wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:36 am
Boomslang wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:57 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm What team is sprityo hypothetically a member of?
That’s a great question figuring I’ve voted to lynch every single member of the mafia we’ve lynched
And you were presumably killee by the evens.
Agreed 100%. I'm also very skeptical of the whole civ-to-mafia flip thing given that alignments are only revealed after second death. Why would flipping after first death make any sense to include as a mechanic in that case, especially with the already unusual length of this game?

But enough about conjectures. It's a difference of opinion, but I don't like Cbob calling this flip theory "reasonable." Scotty pulls good info on a cbob-Lorab connection as well.

SVS's response to spirit's defense feels like civ-on-civ perspective disagreement, too. There's too much passion to be mafia calculation.

Going to park my aubergine on Vote colonialbob for now.
Everything you say in this post sounds bad to me. EVERYTHING And how did you vote for LC?
I disagree with almost everything Boomslang says yet it reminds me of the last time I had this reaction and he was civ. Lots of bickering, lots of me thinking he was being illogical, lots of OMGUS, and we were civ vs civ.

I'm willing to use the "do the opposite of past DDL's mistake" criterium to not lynch him.

Besides, I liked his early Cerberus posts. And apparently there is evidence he can't be Strex? Yeah I don't want to lynch Boom.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:17 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

Or evidence that he can't be even. One of the two. I'm too lazy to check.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:23 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

I might change the vote to Bob if Booms/Quin/Blooper is getting lynched and if I happen to be browing the game on my phone later today.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:21 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 14

That isnt bastard. Wtf Sprityo.

Maybe his alignment flip was faked?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:58 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 13

Dom wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:42 pm
Serious question: let's say there's people with two lives left, but no mafia roles. Do you think the game ends?
I think Golden already confirmed that.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

- Dies

Does this mean some baddie thinks I look like a civ?

Took 14 days but I finally accomplished it :nicenod:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:44 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:01 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm Why did scum sloonei campaign to save scotty and push to lynch kyle for multiple phases in a row, even when kyle wasn't on the poll?
This is where "I'm not engaged" fails to engage me because you clearly are.
if i was fully engaged i'd have 500 posts right now
It's easy to say that when the thread is dead and you are the one doing the most talking in it.

What posts would you make? Endless post-by-post analysis of every post in the game? There's only so much of that one can do before they get bored or realize they could be doing somethinhg useful. Besides one could say making 500 posts in a day when everyone else makes 100 combined is counter-productive to the civilians. You drown discussion in your posts and nobody reads all of them.

Are you posting less than your usual because you are busy, or because the thread is dead so you don't need to say more to dominate it?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:50 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Ok I'm stuggling to catch up.

I think Cbob's lynch is 9 days overdue.

I also feel bad about Sloonei a little but not enough to push a case on him. But I can vote for him maybe. If it's between him and Kyle I prefer him.

I feel slightly civ about Kyle he has said some good things and I thought his movement from inactivity to mid-activity felt genuine. I don 't wanna lynch him.

[VOTE: Cbob] aubergine
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:51 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

10 min to read one page lets go
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Kylemii wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase
His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:57 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

S~V~S wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:27 pm And stop forcing that litmus test on reads, that in order for someone to think someone is bad they must know what team they are on, too.
Preach.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Yeah screw it this won't catch on. My fault for not actually playing this game I suppose.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine then
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:02 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

S~V~S wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:57 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase
His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.
I do not agree
He was pushing us all to
Look at other votes
This.

Plus I do not think first roles say much about affiliation; and I would think that anyone who has not voted for me (which I think is everyone) would agree with that.
On the contrary. Your first role is the main reason I think you're a civ.

You played in a way to prevent it from killing people, and it showed in every post you made.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:10 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Could be a civ or bad role.

Better for a bad than a civ but that can describe every role.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:46 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

I have no idea what people are concluding re: Sloonei role but I totes believe you :beer:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:49 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Spacedaisy wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:22 pm Look guys we know that there is an Even among the group left from pikachu 2.0. That at this point should narrow your list down to Epi, me, Kyle and Scotty. You are going to get a badde out of one the four of us. Please don't fuck around outside of this group. Let's lynch an Even and see if the game continues and reevaluate from there. This is why I voted Kyle. I could vote Kyle or Scotty again tomorrow. I won't be putting my vote anywhere other than one of those two.

Sorry I couldn't stop the lynch train Sloonster.
Image

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:05 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Sloonei wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:44 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:10 pm Could be a civ or bad role.

Better for a bad than a civ but that can describe every role.
how?
One hand is not enough to count the number of times I saw that role in a scum team before.

I believe my first scum role ever was a more powerful version of it. And my teammate had a copy of it that targeted three people.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:55 am
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

colonialbob wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase
His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.
this is bad reasoning.

also please explain how i capitalized on it, how am i supposed to stop people voting for me in a game where I can't infodrop?
Your activity Day 1-6 was crap.

You made one post suggesting to vote for someone else but it wasn't that strong. You could have insisted more.

You justified it on FE time conflict, but I never felt completely satisfied with it.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:05 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 15

Sloonei wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:28 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:01 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm Why did scum sloonei campaign to save scotty and push to lynch kyle for multiple phases in a row, even when kyle wasn't on the poll?
This is where "I'm not engaged" fails to engage me because you clearly are.
if i was fully engaged i'd have 500 posts right now
It's easy to say that when the thread is dead and you are the one doing the most talking in it.

What posts would you make? Endless post-by-post analysis of every post in the game? There's only so much of that one can do before they get bored or realize they could be doing somethinhg useful. Besides one could say making 500 posts in a day when everyone else makes 100 combined is counter-productive to the civilians. You drown discussion in your posts and nobody reads all of them.

Are you posting less than your usual because you are busy, or because the thread is dead so you don't need to say more to dominate it?
The former. But I'm motivated and less busy now. So I'm looking at you because this post doesn't really contribute anything other than to pile shade on me when I was floundering. So I went looking for the justification of your eventual vote for me. It doesn't exist. Help me out. I see you've been mentioning me as a suspect for a while, but I don't see anything backing that up either. why should I trust you?
Piling shade on people is how this game is played. You pile shade on them until there is enough to justify lynching them.

I voted for you because it was between you and Kyle and I had a mild suspicion of you versus a town read on Kyle. So you had to go.

And trust? That's not up to me to answer. You trust me or you don't trust me. If you don't trust me vote for me.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Sloonei wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:21 am DDL, INH, and Boomslang all came out of this lynch looking various shades of bad in my very biased opinion.
I was about to mock this post but your remark about biased opinion disarmed me. :fist:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:06 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Scotty wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:18 pm I’d be down for INH, who’s reads have almost been diametrically opposed to mine this whole game.
That's a fucking terrible reason to lynch someone.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:12 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

I hate this pika2 thing. There is nobody there I wanna lynch.

Then again I think theres nobody I want to lynch anymore. I may have exhausted my own PoE.

If I have to pick from that list it would be one of Epi/Scotty/Kyle I think, because Ive felt good about Daisy all day and you seem to be mechanically confirmed on role 1.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:13 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Well theres Bob but Bob and others made some good points against my case.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:16 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Truth is, we are looking at a game with probably 2 civs left, maybe 3. Almost everyone here is civ which is why everybody looks civ at least to me. I take any "X Y and Z are bad" post with ten grains of salt.

So let's do it differently.

People I absolutely will not lynch in the near future:

DDL
SVS
Quin
Sloonei
Spacedaisy
Blooper

People I dont wanna lynch but may have to:

Rest.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:17 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:12 pm I hate this pika2 thing. There is nobody there I wanna lynch.

Then again I think theres nobody I want to lynch anymore. I may have exhausted my own PoE.

If I have to pick from that list it would be one of Epi/Scotty/Kyle I think, because Ive felt good about Daisy all day and you seem to be mechanically confirmed on role 1.
EBWOP: I've felt good about Daisy all game
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:18 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Scotty wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:15 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:12 pm I hate this pika2 thing. There is nobody there I wanna lynch.

Then again I think theres nobody I want to lynch anymore. I may have exhausted my own PoE.

If I have to pick from that list it would be one of Epi/Scotty/Kyle I think, because Ive felt good about Daisy all day and you seem to be mechanically confirmed on role 1.
Tell me about your Epi suspicion
I... don't know?

He is Epi, if you are not a complete newbie at mafia you should know being paranoid of him is healthy.

I haven't had any reason to suspect him all game but I haven't had any reason to think he is supatown either. He has looked mostly good, like he usually does.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:19 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Kylemii wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:17 pm oh did you mean to opposite thing
yeah lol
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:22 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

What do people think of Dom?

I recall some ancient suspicion of him around the LC case on some tinfoil reason but I hated that case so I didn't go after him anymore.

He's also consistently shat on my posts all game so I've defaulted to ignoring him.

But... do people actually think he looks good?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:24 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Honestly I think I haven't read Epi as a baddie since 2015.

He has standed on a "slightly civ" limbo on every game I played with him.

It's scary.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:49 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Actually this is bugging me.

It feels like no one has suspected no one in this game as much as Dom has suspected me since the start.

Yet he hasn't voted me since like... Day 4?

Time to dig.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:10 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

He has said a lot of stuff I agreed the fuck with all game. That tends to make me read people as civ.

(Despite what I've just told you about terrible reasons to lynch people :doh: )
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:26 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Every alignment-related post made by Dom about DDL since the start.
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Day 3
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:48 am I'm good with nutella or DDL
It starts here. He had been civ/neutral on me before.

Day 4
Dom wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:01 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:56 pm
Dom wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:55 pm what makes you think it's mathematically impossible?
He starts with 1.

If he lynches two baddies, he has 3 at Day 3.

If he lynches two civs, he has -1.

If he lynches a civ and a baddie or vice-versa, he's back at 1.
is everyone either a civ or a baddie?
i don't know the answer to that question
Dom wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:02 pm Then your proof is worthless.
Dom wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:11 pm You're assuming a lot.

I find it unlikely for Quin to be bad.
Dom wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:13 pm I don't think you need to.

And it doesn't help you much at all.
This is the sequence where I try to solve the mystery of Nutella's lynch and Dom tries to stop me from doing it.

Day 7
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:29 pm DDL, tell me,
For whom should I vote? Tell me.
i don't think you know.
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:09 pm
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:18 pm Let's start with this:
juliets wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:56 pm
Day 3 has ended. DDL has been lynched. He was:

0: Bulbasaur (Pokemon). You begin each day phase with -2 votes. Each night, you may select an additional player to begin the next day phase with -2 votes. You may not target the same player on consecutive nights.

It is now Night 3. It will last for 24 hours which means you have 22 hours to get your PMs in.
DDL's first role was one of voting manipulation. This would be a powerful role for a mafia member to use to protect his team from lynches.
Golden wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:06 pm
Day 4 has ended. Long Con has been lynched. He was:
11: Commander Shepard (Mass Effect). Your vote value begins at one, and will be determined based on a karmic system. Each day where you vote for a member of the mafia, the worth of your vote will increase by one. Each day where you vote for a civilian, the worth of your vote will decrease by one. Changes to the worth of your vote will take effect from the following day. Your vote is capped at a maximum of 4 and a minimum of -4. You are unable to evolve.


It is now night 4. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in
Long Con's first role was one of voting manipulation. This would be a powerful role for a mafia member to use to protect his team from lynches.

I have a hard time believing a mafia team at one point included two powerful vote manipulators.

But Mr. Epignosis, what if DDL is on the other mafia team?

Hold on there, Johnny. Let's think this over.
Golden wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:11 pm
Day 5 has ended. Long Con has been lynched. He was:
96: Michaelangelo, forger (Phenon). You may choose one player, and have them appear as any affiliation that you wish upon death. You may change the identity of that player at any time other than during the last hour of a phase. You are MAFIA and a member of the EVIL EVENS.


It is now night 5. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in
Long Con's ultimate role was number 96, a member of the EVIL EVENS (scary, I know, all capitalized like that).

If we were to accept the premises that a mafia team would not consist of two heavy manipulators, and that the other team is the OBNOXIOUS ODDS, then we should expect DDL's role number this time around to be odd.
juliets wrote: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:05 pm DDL's role number is 32.
Well, would you look at that?

Image

Sure. First role prob was
not bad by your logic. Solid.
Alignment could change?
Dom wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:31 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:19 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:16 pm good ideas to think
about. but we have no way of
confirming it all
I'm not concerned with confirming anything. We have to throw ideas around and go with what we think is best. Sitting around waiting for confirmation means the mafia can dictate what happens in the thread. I'm not about that.

We had no confirmation that Long Con was lying about conversing with the hosts, so apparently you aren't about that either. :beer:
Yes that's what I meant.
Thank you for your thoughtful tort.

D could be good 1st

Then inherit evil.
Why are you ignoring that?
Sigh. Dismissive Epi.
Dom wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:34 am I vote [VOTE: DDL] aubergine
I do not know how around
I will be later
He finally decides he doesn't like my guts and votes for me.

He gets on an argument with Epi over his Civ DDL theory that ends up a little ugly. Button gets pressed before the argument ends and Dom comes with me to Cerberus.

Day 8
Dom wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:24 pm ddl and speedchuck
both could be bad in my eyes
Dom wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:49 pm[VOTE: ddl] aubergine
He resumes it on Cerberus. That is the weird day where Pikachu wants us to lynch Speedchuck, Cerberus decides to lynch a pirate instead, and yet somehow things work out and we end up with a dead Marmot under the christmas tree next day.

Day 9
Dom wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:47 am Very Busy This Week

Wont be around much
Still suspect DDL
Ok.

After the merge, Dom's activity becomes sad. Understandably for real life reasons. Well it was a pleasure to be able to play with an active Dom for once in this site, all things considered.
Dom wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:36 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:03 pm
insertnamehere wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:01 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:07 pm "Wilgy isn't bad but I'm going to lynch him anyway"

Nah. That doesn't fly.

[VOTE: INH] aubergine
speedchuck wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:09 pm [VOTE: INH] aubergine

I'll add some weight to that.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:21 pm
Well, fuck all y'all.

Care to make points against me, or is knee-jerk bullshit how things worked over at Pikachu?
it got us to lynch LC.
This is some manipulative bullshit.

It was not a knee jerk reaction. We patiently waited for LC to come back with "lol the host told me in a facebook message".
Dom wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:35 pm Semantics?
Nah. LC and speedchuck and partially dh fought back pretty hard.
Day 10
Dom wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:47 am
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:53 pm
Dom wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:50 pm Cbob played it lowkey for six whole game days and then only cared when his name got thrown around.
This is the last time I'm responding to this accusation - I WAS IN ENDGAME IN ANOTHER GAME. Why are you ignoring this? Vote me or don't, I don't really care at this point.
Endgame in Fire Emblem lasted from Day 1 through 6 of this game, paused for a day, then continued until Day 10 of this game?


Suspects:
-cbob
-wilgy
-speedchuck
-dll
I'm still a suspect. The vote goes to Speedchuck though, but for obvious reasons like everyone else's.
Dom wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:52 am i suspect ddl for the same reasons as i have since like day 2
Well we are on the same page at least.

He doesn't vote for me but he does call me out on "manipulative bullshit".

Day 12
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:13 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
No, it's not. It's on people who ask questions to type them in a way that makes Epignosis happy.
Mfw I can't even bash Epi in peace without Dom coming to smear me because I'm not bashing him the way he wants.
Dom wrote: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:23 pm INH
Boomslang
Nju
colonialbob
Daisy
DDL

who is your biggest suspect and why?
who do you trust the most and why?
He calls me out to give opinions. I actually like this post.

Day 15
Dom wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:42 pm Spacedaisy, S~V~S, Dragon D. Luffy

weird list tbh
No idea what this means.

Eh this isn't as bad as I remembered. I feel like Dom would be attacking me harder if he was actually more active, which he is not. Or he would have gone the path of Quin and left me alone already. This is consistent with someone who hasn't paid attention to this game for weeks and whose reads are reflective of when he last did pay attention. I can relate.

Back to the "I won't wanna lynch but may have to since I have no suspects" pile.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:43 pm
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Didn't we conclude that the haiku dude and the guy who removes people from polls where Epi and Dom, not necessarily in this order?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:44 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Actually I think we also know the order because one of them appeared in a tribe after the button press but I dont remember who.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:09 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions 2017 - GAME OVER
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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 15

Sloonei wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:06 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:43 pm Didn't we conclude that the haiku dude and the guy who removes people from polls where Epi and Dom, not necessarily in this order?
:shrug: I wasn't in pikachu and never saw this discussed in depth
Pretty sure it was in here that I saw the discussion.

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