The Syndicate

Is Reywas dead? He's appearing on both the polls and the OP.

But that post from Epi suggested he died.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:44 pm Also, unless y'all think Epi is boring and made a mafia team with both a post curser and a silencer, I guess I'm just a civilian then.

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:27 pm

Who was it that recorded funniest quotes again? [mention]nutella[/mention]?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:44 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:21 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:27 pm

Who was it that recorded funniest quotes again? nutella?
Huh? You just send it in a PM to Sockys2019.

Oh that's fine I just figured since you usually seem to know where all the funny quotes are.

Thanks.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:21 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:44 pm Also, unless y'all think Epi is boring and made a mafia team with both a post curser and a silencer, I guess I'm just a civilian then.

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine
Do you find that post suspicious?

Isn't it obvious it's a joke

Ok I'm done negleting this game, tomorrow I'll start negleting the other game (and catching up on this one).

Don't buy any argument about Mata having a result on someone. If she had she would have been morr assertive.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:29 am Luna is bad.

We planned in BTSC not to vote till the last second for reasons related to her role. That's why I missed voting earlier, and why she likely did too. Now she's shading me based on that?

Bad.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Tbh I was already thinking of voting her before this post. Sure I think her post about Jack looks good on her but her recent apathy doesn't feel good to me. There is only so much apathy I can take as civilian based.

But yeah speed's post is pretty damning. That's Luna straight up being shady.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] whats your explanation for that? Is speed lieing or...

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:44 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:39 am Don't buy any argument about Mata having a result on someone. If she had she would have been morr assertive.
Saying she is 80% sure of someone IS Mata being assertive. She is not a particularly assertive player.

While tieing Eloh in a poll with dunya, saying shes not sure about dunya and having only slightly lower percentages for the rest.

It's confusing, and an ability result shouldn't be confusing.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:46 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:44 am But yeah speed's post is pretty damning. That's Luna straight up being shady.

@Lunalee whats your explanation for that? Is speed lieing or...
DDL, she can't answer open ended questions very well because she is cursed today. She can only use words from her role description.

Oh.

Jay why did you curse Luna for again

Like if Speed is mafia lieing that put Luna in a difficult situation. Your cursing may have set her up for a mislynch.

For all you complain about having an anti-town role you seem pretty trigger-happy about it.

Well if Speed is straight up lieing then [mention]Lunalee[/mention] should post a

If he is telling the truth and the situation is more complicated than that then I wish you good luck with explaining it.

If Luna flips civ do we blame speed or Jay for it

Thats where I'm currently at

If Speed and Jay are both mafia this is a stupid plan. No reason to put both their names on the line.

If just speed is mafia this is just opportunism. He saw Luna cursed and tried to get her lynched.

If just Jay is mafia then I guess he couldn't have seen this coming, just got lucky.

If neither is mafia and Luna is bad we are golden and Jay's action is just a mild invonvenience.

If all three are civs and it was just a misunderstanding from Luna then we are on the path to defeat and mafia is laughing at us in BTSC.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:57 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:48 am Jay why did you curse Luna for again
We discussed it last phase with speedchuck. Luna can confirm her role via my curse, for whatever that's worth. She consented.

This makes speed look less good in this whole rationale.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:57 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:53 am Well if Speed is straight up lieing then @Lunalee should post a
lying about what? i'm confused.

Speed is accusing Luna of making a deal with speed in btsc and now accusing him of doing the thing she agreed with him before. Which would mean she is not being honest.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:10 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:57 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:48 am Jay why did you curse Luna for again
We discussed it last phase with speedchuck. Luna can confirm her role via my curse, for whatever that's worth. She consented.
This makes speed look less good in this whole rationale.
I don't understand why this makes speed look less good. Luna agreed to it according to what Jay is saying.

Ok let's say Luna is a civ.

She agrees with it. Talks to Speed in BTSC.

Now the new day starts and Speed accuses her of contradicting something she said in BTSC. Is it possible this is a bad Speed leing to set up a lynch on her?

Or would be a stupid risk for a mafia Speed to do that, considering Luna might be lynched anyway?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

FOlks we ve the equivalent of an ability result.We should be discussing all the ramifications of it.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:13 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:12 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:10 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:57 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:48 am Jay why did you curse Luna for again
We discussed it last phase with speedchuck. Luna can confirm her role via my curse, for whatever that's worth. She consented.
This makes speed look less good in this whole rationale.
I don't understand why this makes speed look less good. Luna agreed to it according to what Jay is saying.
Ok let's say Luna is a civ.

She agrees with it. Talks to Speed in BTSC.

Now the new day starts and Speed accuses her of contradicting something she said in BTSC. Is it possible this is a bad Speed leing to set up a lynch on her?

Or would be a stupid risk for a mafia Speed to do that, considering Luna might be lynched anyway?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I'm not sure what you mean by "talks to speed in bts". She had bts with speed Day 2 not yesterday.

Oh?

Damn I have to think this over.

Meh, I thought we had caught Luna slipping and we didn't.

Back to having to read pple for real.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:39 am Meh, I thought we had caught Luna slipping and we didn't.

Back to having to read pple for real.
luna or speed?

Luna.

But I was also suspecting some kind of set up by Speed based on the fact Luna is unable to defend herself.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:39 am Don't buy any argument about Mata having a result on someone. If she had she would have been morr assertive.
So DDL.

Why did Mata differentiate in percentages Elo and Dunya if she had no results? Why not just have them lumped in with the 70% or less sure. She made the point in her post that she was assessing everyone so it would have been easy to say "these people I am more sure of" and "these people I'm less sure of" instead of having two people stand out of all the rest. I am less sure of dunya because of Mata's later comment and because she has had civ posts but I feel like Elo is definitely bad.

juliets if I have results on 2 mafia I'm not putting them in an ambiguous post like that, I'm making 10 posts per page in Caps Lock and bold.

And if I have only 1 result I make a better effort to differentiate Eloh and dunya.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:28 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:39 am Meh, I thought we had caught Luna slipping and we didn't.

Back to having to read pple for real.
luna or speed?
Luna.

But I was also suspecting some kind of set up by Speed based on the fact Luna is unable to defend herself.
your posts were saying "if speed is lying..." so i got confused. if speed is mafia, and luna is town, why would he have to set anything up himself? people were already scum reading her. he put himself in the middle and for no reason except to look bad when she flips town.

i still don't think speed is mafia.

Sorry I started rambling about a bunch of different possibilities while most people were still digesting Speed's claim. Including speed himself. Probably jumped the gun.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:39 am Don't buy any argument about Mata having a result on someone. If she had she would have been morr assertive.
So DDL.

Why did Mata differentiate in percentages Elo and Dunya if she had no results? Why not just have them lumped in with the 70% or less sure. She made the point in her post that she was assessing everyone so it would have been easy to say "these people I am more sure of" and "these people I'm less sure of" instead of having two people stand out of all the rest. I am less sure of dunya because of Mata's later comment and because she has had civ posts but I feel like Elo is definitely bad.
juliets if I have results on 2 mafia I'm not putting them in an ambiguous post like that, I'm making 10 posts per page in Caps Lock and bold.

And if I have only 1 result I make a better effort to differentiate Eloh and dunya.
But you are telling me what you would do, which is not necessarily the same thing as what Mata would do. She doesn't play like you.

I hope she does, because that's very obvious.

There are 2 mafia left. You find both of them. Why the hell do you stay silent about it?

That's game throwing.

And before anyone accuses me of TMI, I know it's not confirmed there are 2 mafia left, yada yada. Don't care.

Like the only reason a cop stays silent about a result is because they hope to get more info with the following nights.

If a cop gets what may be the entirety of the scum team, they shoudn't stay silent. Ever. They have the entire result of the game in their hands. They just need to dump it and it's GG.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:34 pm I mean Elohcin is discrediting the guy who just outed a mafioso. Why is that good?

We could also interpret Eloh's outburst at the Mac lynch as based on thinking her teammate was unfairly lynched.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:37 pm you're saying she's suspecting LC even though she knows jack is bad. "why would he come out and say he is 100% sure jack is bad" lol.

i am not voting eloh. don't give 2 shits if this looks like it's tmi after her flip. i just don't think eloh who would be informed in btsc by a raging jack and mac comes in and asks that question and makes that post. no offence to eloh. i just think they would be better coordinating reactions/defences when they know jack is a dead man walking. who survives a red peek? jack had almost given up tbh.

I don't think Eloh has enough experience with games where info dumping is allowed to know that when a cop outs a mafioso it's GG. She hasn't played that many recent games and it's a fiarly new tng in this site.

It is possible that she saw the situation and thought she could reverse it, rather than just bus her teammate which is what a more meta-savvy mafioso would do.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:42 pm I think Luna is a better lynch today though. I have no better reasons to view her as a civilian than Elohcin (I care zero percent what her damned role is), and today's discrepancy with speedchuck is hard to believe. Something's wrong there.

One thing I don't understand is why Lunalee is sure Speed is just forgetful rather than lying.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:18 pm Lunalee, please pick one:

speedchuck is remembering incorrectly

speedchuck is lying

Feels like she knows Speed is a civ.

This is too easy.

[VOTE: Eloh] aubergine

I want to hear what Luna has to say. Without a curse.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 5:20 pm Dragon D. Luffy why did you vote Luna? I'm asking you because you're here and others aren't.

And dang Lunalee did you just change your answer on Jay's pick one? Are you saying you don't know which of the two choices is true?

Because of that whole "speed didn't vote d1 and d5" debacle, which in the end was meaningless.

My vote stayed on her because I had no reason to put it anywhere else.

Luna from where I am I have no way of telling if you are just picking one of the options at random or if you are sure of it.

I can only try to infer.

I think it's possible speed and/or luna just made a silly mistake.

I've mislynched people before for not behaving on ways I'd expect to be logical. Such as not revealing cop results and stuff.

Like, although I did say it to juliets in that argument before, not everybody plays how we would expect all the time.

Im going to uni. Don't hot potato me kthxbye.

I knew there was a good chance you'd CFD me so I finished with that post.

Could it be an accident. I'e accidentally edited wrong posts as a host. Pretty sure I once edited one of Jay's posts then had to edit it back before he saw it.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:36 pm Sorry, I got news in the middle of that EOD that one of my good friend's father died and I was trying to deal with that, my mom, and EOD.

No problem juliets, real life is more important.

I called both dunya and eloh at some point tho. And defended Luna.

I need to start taking myself more seriously

I entered the thread and saw dunya pushing a lynch on LC

I was like "NO JULIETS DONT FOLLOW HER SHES A SITH NONONO"

Yeah dunya's AtE is next level.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:29 pm How... how HOW did you guys end up lynching LONGCON?

Now I know why I was lynched, that shit would not have flown with me at all. LC was clearly town. And I didn't even read endgame, I saw the poll and knew immediately dunya was bad because civ dunya would never have voted for LC in that situation.

Also I wished I was still alive so I could tell you I had been blocked. But I hadn't been sure until the night I died.

My reaction to dunya moaning about not wanting to be wrong about luna again

Literally who the fuck cares about that in lylo.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:49 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:42 pm Old Skool doesn’t ignore evidence, and someone should have called out their claims of not using their powers. Omg I was half laughing, half screaming at my phone all end game!
Trust me, a number of us brought it up. And it should have been enough in that ridiculous nonsense of a MyLo. You did your job. Something to consider moving forward though -- if you have conclusive evidence, call it 100% instead of 80.

Also if you are in a game where role claiming is allowed, just let it all out instead of trying to make it look like a normal case.

Like, my whole argument with juliets was because I thought you would have been more obvious if you actually caught a baddie.

And if you catch two baddies, the game might as well be over. Go ahead and win it.

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