The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:58 pm here's the thing though? what if we lynch ddl

I have a better idea:

What if we don't

As for Sig, I don't feel any special about him either way.

He said some shady stuff but Sig always does. That said I can see mafia Sig saying shady stuff too. He's just a guy who talks too much and tinfoils too much too.

I think I'm gonna drink the info koolaid. Voting Sig.

Besides now that we've lost Luna and Sprityo, he has the chance to take the mislynch throne from them, I won't deny him that.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:07 pm you stole my joke

This isn't Disney, all jokes turn into public domain after a while.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:35 pm I'm having a bit if a mental health day. I'll tune in tomorrow.

That's tough to hear, man! Hope you get better.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:16 am sig is actually confirmed town if you read the thread but ok

Illiminate us, o mighty pussy.

INH being bad falls apart if we assume Tranq really copies his wincon which means INH is an indie.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:28 pm I find it very funny how easily sig just got this huge wagon. People really do love lynching sig.

Maybe you have a point here? I'd expect more people to be lynching, say, G-Man. Sig could be taking the fall for baddies in danger here.

Ok what about [VOTE: G-Man] aubergine

Didn't even noticed you were voting Gman too lol

Ok this Nova = darkness theory sounds cool. [VOTE: Nova] aubergine

Iirc the night Mac got darknessed was the same one I tagged nova in NF to come and play.

How is it that every time I change my vote people think I'm teammates with the guy I just changed from?

I voted for 4 people yesterday. Maybe me and the first 3 are a mafia team, then?

Or maybe we should just wait until people flip their roles because we start calling everyone teammates? Contrary to popular belief, we don't know for sure if Sig is bad or not.

Actually it has to be a 5 person team, since I'm also teammates with Tranq. Isn't that right?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:24 am @Long Con @Black Rock

If you had a game event that reset everyone's roles and randomly gave them new ones you'd be legends.

I've seen a host career get destroyed after someone did that.

Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:51 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 pm if everything we've been told and everything we're assuming is true is true, and also DDL killed nutella, then DDL is one of the following, ranked from most civ to least civ:

savage pixie: i think this role is the most likely of these to be civ, since it can identify corpses.

Sakana Sashimi: i think this is probably an indie role since their kill count was increased for balance purposes, this possibility only applies if nutella died in the water

Dark Woshipper: DDL himself described this role as a probable hostile indie role, and it seems apt, since

a member of the mafia who just happened to carry out the kill on nutella, if Turnip Head was the one killed by the mafia then that makes this one obsolete.

i don't think i'd consider DDL an immediate priority for lynching specifically unless he's mafia, the Dark Worshipper does look dangerous and would be good to be rid of sooner or later for sure, but sakana sashimi can basically only kill people who decide to go swimming for some reason, and savage pixie has clear posititve utility.

Why would the Savage Pixie, if civ, use their one time kill on nutella Night 1?

i don't believe the savage pixie would do that.

nutella was far from a strong suspect of anyone

So let's assume Savage Pixie didn't kill nutella then.
nutella is a smart player who's usually well aware of the roles so i think she would try to avoid the water squares.
From your POV, that leaves DDL as Dark Worshipper or random mafia member. Why isn't he an immediate priority lynching again?

@Dragon D. Luffy do you have any reads on Kyle?

I have a pretty solid civ one from the last time I ISO'd him but that might be outdated, I could look again.

So far I don't recall him doing anything suspicious so he probably stays as a civ read.

I still think Tranq being random animal and INH being an indie makes sense, and I dunno why INH had to be aubergine to be an indie.

Hmm I can't make this a tie but I can make it close.

Now someone make it a tie.

Oh nvm cataclysm sounds more fun anyway. I'm ghonna forget all other stuff a year from now but I might remember a cataclysm.

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:12 am G-Man - civ (no targets)
Kyle - civ (no targets)
Luna - civ (no targets)
Quin - cat (no targets)
DDL - ?

How convenient.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:21 am What if Sloonei is just a liar?

What if I set DDL on fire just to be safe? So that he will blend in with the ground?

That wouldn't be convinent.

Relax people, mindless chaos can harm mafia as much as town. In fact, my host experience says it tends to harm mafia more.

I'm more worried of what else DH is hiding from us.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:52 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:56 am Relax people, mindless chaos can harm mafia as much as town. In fact, my host experience says it tends to harm mafia more.

I'm more worried of what else DH is hiding from us.

I think you may know more about what DH is hiding than you're letting on.

I just said I'm worried about what he is hiding. That means I don't know what he is hiding, not the opppsite.

I have no idea who to suspect anymore. I think imma do some ISOs.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

You're welcome.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:00 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Good luck with that.

This doesn't feel like a civ response to Sloonei's vote. I think a civ would be more like "why?"

Ok I did a quick ISO on Sig. Not gonna comment on things closely because I'll probably enter a spiral of laziness and procrastination if I attempt that.

His early game is pretty decent. He's hunting and showing interest in the game.

Night 2 he makes some very fishy posts where he accuses everyone at the same time. Feels a little like classic Sig tbh.

Then he makes some hunting posts here and there, but most of his effort until the end is either for defending himself, or tunnelling on Sabie. He really wants sabie dead.

In a vaccum that's not enough to make my want to lynch him. Early Sig is always fishy, so lately I'm making a point to leave him alone. While late Sig tends to become more useful. Then again, this amazing late Sig is taking a bit too long to appear and it's Day 5 already.

But we are not in a vaccum, there is information, and while I'm not sure if I wanna trust Jack, I feel like someone who comes here and delivers two independent pieces of evidence can't really be ignored. Claiming is always a risk that needs to be taking seriously, I believe.

Also I don't feel like I have the motivation to stop the huge wagon, or to start another one. I was really in tune with that Tranq/INH/Quin thing and it all fizzled out, and now I feel like I've lost a grasp of who I read how. I think it would be healthy if we could try to go back to that state we had in Day 1/2 where we were just calling each other suspects left and right; It's like there are 10-15 players who are just out of focus anymore. Maybe it's because Sloonei wents less active and he's the one who usually pushes that stuff? Food for thought.

But yeah [VOTE: Sig] aubergine until I get a better feel of what to do.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:08 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:48 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:00 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Good luck with that.

This doesn't feel like a civ response to Sloonei's vote. I think a civ would be more like "why?"

Counterpoint: do it bitch

Because of one post? Eh... I'll pass.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:57 pm And btw I've been low key role hinting for awhile, I'm very disappointed that y'all haven't caught on.

Then stop low key role hinting and claim your role already.

Yeah I'm lazy. You caught me. I'll turn myself in to the laziness police.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:02 pm If the civs can't figure it out then they deserve to have me lynched. Teach y'all another lesson about mislynching poor little ole sig.

If you get lynched as a civ after refusing to claim in a game where claiming is allowed, it's 100% your fault.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:04 pm Dragon D. Luffy would lynching you benefit the town?

No. I'm a civ.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:24 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:03 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:02 pm If the civs can't figure it out then they deserve to have me lynched. Teach y'all another lesson about mislynching poor little ole sig.

If you get lynched as a civ after refusing to claim in a game where claiming is allowed, it's 100% your fault.

Right?

What is the purpose of hinting but not claiming?

1) Breadcrumbing for later cred

2) Role playing

3) As scum so town doesn’t call you out for claiming someone’s else’s role

4) To evaluate if town deserves to avoid a mislynch or not based on hint catching abilities

There is nothing wrong with hinting during the game. But this is a EoD situation we are talking about. If you are given a way out through claiming and still refuse to do it because you want to spite the civilian faction, then I can't blame anyone but you. You had a choice to win the game and you opted out of it due to spite. Sig seems like he just wants to spite the civilian faction, according to his last reply to me.

That said, maybe his role doesn't really save him even when claimed. If this game is truly balanced, then roles themselves don't indicate much and claiming won't actually save most people from a lynch. After seeing juliets's role, I think that's the case. But Sig seemed to imply that his hinting meant something. If he thinks it does, he should put it on the table at once.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 pm I've got a Christmas Party to attend so imma be out for a bit, but I was reading over DDL he has to go. Ik for a fact i'm not mafia he was within the area that Jack saw, plus ik I was targeted to be killed and he was within the same area based off what we know. DDL is mafia, read over his posts and it becomes clear.

You need to get your facts again. I'm not in Jack's PoE. I'm only in that Sloonei 5.

Btw since I think speedchuck commented on it so I'll reply. What I said above doesn't mean I always think it's the person's fault for being lynched, in all situations. I just think that in a game, you are supposed to use the tools you have available to you. If you were given a choice to and said no, and if you do that due to an external reason like spite, then yeah, sorry, I don't think it's anyone else's blame for it.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:26 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:23 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 pm I've got a Christmas Party to attend so imma be out for a bit, but I was reading over DDL he has to go. Ik for a fact i'm not mafia he was within the area that Jack saw, plus ik I was targeted to be killed and he was within the same area based off what we know. DDL is mafia, read over his posts and it becomes clear.

You need to get your facts again. I'm not in Jack's PoE. I'm only in that Sloonei 5.

You were within his map info or was it Sabs? Someones the night that DH I believe was targeted correct?

Which is how it was narrowed to you, myself, and timmer.

Also we can see DDL setting up that my claim, if I decide to do so, would be meaningless since who knows the alignments a very scummy move imo.

If you think claiming will save you, then do it and save yourself.

If you think it won't then maybe don't bother.

I'm trying to solve the game. You screaming NO YOU and painting me as the villain will not accomplish anything in this day phase.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:26 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:23 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 pm I've got a Christmas Party to attend so imma be out for a bit, but I was reading over DDL he has to go. Ik for a fact i'm not mafia he was within the area that Jack saw, plus ik I was targeted to be killed and he was within the same area based off what we know. DDL is mafia, read over his posts and it becomes clear.

You need to get your facts again. I'm not in Jack's PoE. I'm only in that Sloonei 5.

You were within his map info or was it Sabs? Someones the night that DH I believe was targeted correct?

Which is how it was narrowed to you, myself, and timmer.

Also we can see DDL setting up that my claim, if I decide to do so, would be meaningless since who knows the alignments a very scummy move imo.

As a matter of fact, I was in BTSC with Jack last night. But the reveals he has made so far aren't related to last night, they were related to previous nights. Specifically who targeted DH early and who poisoned Jack.

Oh fuck I think I broke a rule.

Sorry guys I am not supposed to say who I had BTSC with. I had thought it was only related to the content.

Sorry [mention]Long Con[/mention]

I just meant to point a difference between whatever you or Jack saw last night, with whatever anyone saw in previous nights, just so that people don't mix up night info to accuse me wrongly.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:29 pm Dragon D. Luffy oh my god dude you're fucking lucky sig committed suicide or i woulda beat your ass!!!

Wow where did this come from

Also I could swear you were the psionic ninja.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:07 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:05 pm you fucking know what i've been the one saying it has to be sig today but i actually wouldn't mind if the wagon turned to ddl

I mean lets compare.



Very evil looking, smokes, has a weird hat, and from one piece.

VS



A super cute kitty, with an amazing hat, and from Kentucky a state that's not as bad as Mississippi or One piece.

To be fair if I ever made a role from the guy in my avatar he'd probably be 3P.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:16 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:27 pm Btw since I think speedchuck commented on it so I'll reply. What I said above doesn't mean I always think it's the person's fault for being lynched, in all situations. I just think that in a game, you are supposed to use the tools you have available to you. If you were given a choice to and said no, and if you do that due to an external reason like spite, then yeah, sorry, I don't think it's anyone else's blame for it.

I get what you're saying here. I get the feeling sometimes people just give up. Like they feel like they cant do anything about it anymore.

What are your thoughts on jack then? Do you think hes being helpful or not?

I'm 7 pages behind but I'll reply. I'm iffy on Jack. I think he has released a lot of actual information and I'm not sure if the Sig info was completely fabricated on his side. Yet he is giving me some 3P vibes. Like he is playing all sides.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:58 pm This is the only headass CFD I’ll ever endorse.

I feel honored

My point is I wouldn't be surprised if Jack was darkness.

I don't have ACTUAL INFO that points in that direction but I have my reasons.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:36 pm Start changing your votes to speedchuck and see what happens. Go on. Give it a shot.

What’s your read on DDL?

Bad, but I'm prejudiced against him as I am with certain people.

I can relate.

Linki: I don't get how saying RIP to Kylemii means he killed him?

I feel like I am being smeared her.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:50 pm "ddl is bad because hes brasilion" - epicnoses, expert player

Ok I'm fine with being smeared if I keep getting posts like this

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:05 am

I lol'd

Mac I'm on square next to you if you go left-right-left-right-forward-right-left you will find the Ocarina of Time.

Ok caught up and I feel like I wasted my time since some dude lie detected me and now everyone is after my head.

I guess I can do nothing but assume Sig was recruited into the mafia and is a big fat liar.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:48 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:43 am Mac I'm on square next to you if you go left-right-left-right-forward-right-left you will find the Ocarina of Time.

Gee thanks now I have to play Ocarina of Time again.

You're welcome.