The Syndicate

One reason I could see a mafia avoiding to kill Jay is simply because all civs become vanilla after Night 4.

Why kill Jay then when you can kill him later?

Something tells me one of Jay/Speed is bad and figuring out which one is the key to winning this game.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 8:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 8:27 pm One reason I could see a mafia avoiding to kill Jay is simply because all civs become vanilla after Night 4.

Why kill Jay then when you can kill him later?
... explain?

Oh, because the protections will be gone.

How does this post even get written lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:18 am We should do GTH again. If everyone can try to be here in about 7 hours from now that should be an ok time for everyone I think?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 9:32 am RDW is voting DDL

The finger trembles in a urge to vote for him.

[VOTE: RDW] aubergine

I can't live in a world where this guy was bad and I lost the game for not lynching him.

Damn I just said that but I don't feel so good about it.

rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 2:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:41 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:39 pm On what dragon luffy says like what was impact of dragonmir targeting him
How does that relate to your vote?
I want him to talk probably not leaving vote on him

What do you want to talk about.

I don't know anything about what Dragomir did.

Don't even remember what role he claimed.

Speed is saying a lot of reasonable things lately I guess. But the way he chooses his votes and cases still feels weird.

I liked the post about easy mode and hard mode, I think a civ would be more motivated to try to shake things up than a baddie. But then he went and made no vote to follow that up. If we are stuck in easy mode he isn't making much effort to help us leave it. He's voting Wilgy the Replacement which isn't very impressive.

I'm not really feeling the Speed lynch. Like the reasons are valid but it's not strong, and I don't like how it already has 3 votes.

At this point we should expect some strong resistance to baddie lynches from the baddies themselves. The Speed lynch feels like a low resistance one.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I'm only playing on hard mode now.

I'm getting the same vibes here I got from the Gemma lynch. It's alright. But "alright" has only gotten us civ lynches so far.

We need crazy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:07 pmLike the reasons are valid but it's not strong
Is there a case in this game right now that you would call "strong"?

Other than the fact I can feel your baddiness in my bones, no.

That's the thng though, we are all resigned to making easy cases and it's making us lose. And right now, with 6v3, it's SUPER easy for the mafia to nudge the poll in a way that makes them keep winning.

This isn't a poll where eveyone talking peacefully and following the obvious path will make us win. We need a revolution.

Speed is not a revolution. He has 3 votes on him. Last I checked I'm the only one defending him. He's the ultimate "meh" in this game. My instincts are crying "mislynch".

I wanna lynch either Jay or RDW.

We need to crack the game open today. If we don't, we are probably not going to do it on 4v3. That ratio is hell because it takes all 4 townies to get to a consensus, and mafia doesn't have to worry about appearances so they can quick hammer the poll.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:29 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:26 pm I wanna lynch either Jay or RDW.
What makes you hate RDW so much right now?

He doesn't seem like he wants to play the game at all so it's more of a policy lynch. It's Day 5 and he has given me fewer reasons to read him as a civ than everyone else, including you and both replacements. I mean, if we have 3 baddies, the chances he is one of them are considerable, even if we are in a scenario with deepwolves.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:29 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:26 pm I wanna lynch either Jay or RDW.
What makes you hate RDW so much right now?
He doesn't seem like he wants to play the game at all so it's more of a policy lynch. It's Day 5 and he has given me fewer reasons to read him as a civ than everyone else, including you and both replacements. I mean, if we have 3 baddies, the chances he is one of them are considerable, even if we are in a scenario with deepwolves.
What do you like about Wilgy?

Some of the stuff he's said are BS but they feel BS in a way an uninformed player would think.

He's doing work. He gives a shit. He seems like game solving.

All the stuff he's doing are easy to fake but that's still better than RDW.

Here I am, the crazy old dude trying to make people lynch Jay. The passerbies are ignoring me. Every once in a while someone drops a coin on my lap in hopes it will make me shut up.

Suddenoly Wilgy shows up from nowhere and decides to lynch Jay with me on the grounds of NKA.

Does mafia do that? Why not settling for Dragomir, or RDW, or Speed instead? He can just kill Jay next night.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:36 pm Good morning motherlickers. Let's do gth.

Hit me up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:36 pm Here I am, the crazy old dude trying to make people lynch Jay. The passerbies are ignoring me. Every once in a while someone drops a coin on my lap in hopes it will make me shut up.

Suddenoly Wilgy shows up from nowhere and decides to lynch Jay with me on the grounds of NKA.

Does mafia do that? Why not settling for Dragomir, or RDW, or Speed instead? He can just kill Jay next night.
Have you played with Wilgy before?

If Jay is a civ and Wilgy is Mafia it makes perfect sense.

I have but my knowledge of WIlgy is limited, on the grounds that he flaked almost every game he played with me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:39 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:36 pm Here I am, the crazy old dude trying to make people lynch Jay. The passerbies are ignoring me. Every once in a while someone drops a coin on my lap in hopes it will make me shut up.

Suddenoly Wilgy shows up from nowhere and decides to lynch Jay with me on the grounds of NKA.

Does mafia do that? Why not settling for Dragomir, or RDW, or Speed instead? He can just kill Jay next night.
It's a fair enough question.

I do think though that I am officially lynch bait at this point, and if Wilgy is teamed with any of those people then the question isn't so simple.

How do you feel about making RDW's role die?

Maybe wait till the GTH to answer.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:49 pm Dragon D Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay

civ
bad

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:55 pm Dragomir
Owner of a Lonely Heart

civ
civ

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:57 pm DrWilgy
MacDougall

civ
civ

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:59 pm Nutella
Speedchuck
RDW

bad
civ
bad

It seems I have only 3 suspects. Lynch them in any order to win. kthxbye.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:03 pm Dragon D. Luffy Do you have more to go on regarding nutella? I can't hardly read her because she's tunnelled on me so hard this game, which she often does as town to much the same effect.

Instinct. I don't know. I'm terrible at reading her. She just doesn't feel like a trustworthy person to me. There is a quasi-town core I'm feel a part of and she's not in it.

Granted rn the quasi-towncore is probably just me and Mac with maybe Drago. I guess Lux was in it. nutella is around, playing her own game and I don't know what it is.

I guess I'm used to nutella as part of the big, happy civ family who wins and loses together. She is one of those players who just feel like part of whatever towncore is estabilished. I'm not feeling her that way in this game.

I think there is a deficit of Owner talk in this game compared to everyone else, yet I don't see how she could fake that early claim.

Well I guess we talk about her a lot regarding Dragomir's cases but that's just it.

Mac I think you should post the table again.

Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:13 pm Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.
And yet RDW has no votes

CFD?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:13 pm Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.
And yet RDW has no votes

Mafia controls 1/3 of the votes rn. Why are none of them voting for RDW even though all of them say they suspect him?

(I'm assuming the people who didn't participate the GTH suspect him too based on statistics)

[VOTE: RDW] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:21 pm I have to get ready for work. I'll try to check in every now and then. Try not to let tinfoil in. RDW is the lynch. We need a mafia lynch to flesh out who the deepwolf or wolves are and RDW is our best shot.

Arrrrr!

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 pm no one thinks it's weird that literally everybody suspects rdw? are we going to just be okay with another uncontested lynch?

"Everyone"?

Don't you suspect him too?

And this lynch is anything but uncontested.

nutella is on the fence lynch her

(jk)

nutella on bussing her teammate:

I don't have such a detailed memory but I remember at least one instance where a GTH completely turned the game around for the civs.

Jay is doubting GTH

I'm telling you guys, he's bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?

I had all my answers decided in advance but it's not my fault I'm just paying more attention to this game than usual.

I didn't know whether the rest of you were going to scumread him or not, though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?
No. I don't recall anyone supporting him all day though.

Jay, meet Distancing. Distancing, here is Jay. I hope you get along well.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?
No. I don't recall anyone supporting him all day though.
Jay, meet Distancing. Distancing, here is Jay. I hope you get along well.
Yes, you suspect me. Thanks for the reminder.

No, what I mean here is that whoever RDW's teammates are, they are distancing from him.

So no, the fact no one is defending him at all is not a good thing.

Jay: "Do I bus him now? But both me and nutella have defended him. That might lose us the game. Owner and Wilgy are around, they could still flip this for us. And maybe RDW will show up. If we win this lynch there's no way this town can win that 4v3".

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:21 pm Try not to let tinfoil in.

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] the fate of mankind rests on your shoulders.

No pressure.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:37 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 6:30 pm Jay: "Do I bus him now? But both me and nutella have defended him. That might lose us the game. Owner and Wilgy are around, they could still flip this for us. And maybe RDW will show up. If we win this lynch there's no way this town can win that 4v3".
I'm considering the scenario in front of me and trying to make the best decision I can. I don't give a shit about any of this.

I apologize, this was just a stab, not an argument.

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