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- Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:25 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
Nah no indie claim here. I'm a civ.
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:45 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:07 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
I mean this is circular logic. Either you believe all of Sig's results can be trusted or not. I'm not gonna waste my time here yelling "No they can't" for 72 hours.
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:46 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
I don't think I'm allowed to go into actual details tbh. I already broke the rules once.sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:05 pmOh?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:06 am My point is I wouldn't be surprised if Jack was darkness.
I don't have ACTUAL INFO that points in that direction but I have my reasons.![]()
But I think the main thing is that Jack is flat out lieing about having been poisoned. That I'm sure of. Now why he lied about that is anyone's guess.
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:01 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
I fear I can't say anything else without fearing a modkill.
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:16 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
I left this piece of info. Jack is a liar, and depending on how the thread goes and what other info appears, I think there is a good chance he might turn out as darkness. If not, at least some other non town role.
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:28 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
That's the face I made at the start of Day 5.
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:59 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 5]
According to the OP poisoning doesn't kill you directly it just makes you get votes.
- Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:30 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 6]
I still don't trust Sig's result.
[VOTE: Sig] aubergine
[VOTE: Sig] aubergine
- Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:34 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 6]
Hey folks I wonder what happens if we lynch Sig again.
He's appearing in both the poll and the list of living players.
He's appearing in both the poll and the list of living players.
- Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:30 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 6]
I still have Bioshock sitting in my library but not being played.
Next year I guess.
Next year I guess.
- Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:11 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 6]
Thanks for the game, LC/BR!
- Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:35 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 7]
Hope you get better soon, speedchuck!MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:56 pm Speedchuck is unfortunately very unwell and is going back to the hospital today so please keep him in your thoughts and direct positive energy his way.
- Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:38 am
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- Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:32 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 7]
I seem to have insane luck in RPGs. 5 campaigns since I started played and haven't died once yet. Usually I'm the one trying to revive dead teammates.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 am
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I'm not sure if you would have won because SVS's role was about as OP as yours.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:34 amYou're basically saying that I shouldn't have even bothered to make any real effort and still would have won, which ... I hope isn't true.
A civ who can't be killed is invincible just like a mafia who can't be lynched.
Then again in the end your role was the one who proved to be more invincible than hers, so there is that.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:18 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]
I think our faction is the one who got the short end of the stick balance-wise, since we had a bunch of kill protections but no lynch protection. And what makes a mafia OP is lynch protection (as opposed to kill protection for civs).
That said I'm not complaining. I've played games less balanced than this one, and it was a pretty fun game. Could have been done better, but it's not like here are a bunch of map games around to compare.
That said I'm not complaining. I've played games less balanced than this one, and it was a pretty fun game. Could have been done better, but it's not like here are a bunch of map games around to compare.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:23 am
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Mac I don't think anyone is arguing you couldn't have lost, it's just that it was much difficult for that to happen to you than to anyone else.
It would have required some very unlucky event like you being outed as a role too and not just player, and then get voted because you are the kraken. Or maybe you not learning the other faction's names and not being able to dump us in the thread, which would give us more leeway to avoid lynches.
Of course your effort counted, particularly the part where you dumped our roles. But the stars were on your side. In a normally balanced game no one gets to dump anyone's entire teams, and people die when there is a crowd wanting to lynch/kill them.
Mafia is a game of information hunting. Information should be hard to obtain, and kills should be easy. This was a game where information was easy, and kills were hard, which made it feel less like mafia overall.
It would have required some very unlucky event like you being outed as a role too and not just player, and then get voted because you are the kraken. Or maybe you not learning the other faction's names and not being able to dump us in the thread, which would give us more leeway to avoid lynches.
Of course your effort counted, particularly the part where you dumped our roles. But the stars were on your side. In a normally balanced game no one gets to dump anyone's entire teams, and people die when there is a crowd wanting to lynch/kill them.
Mafia is a game of information hunting. Information should be hard to obtain, and kills should be easy. This was a game where information was easy, and kills were hard, which made it feel less like mafia overall.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:29 am
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I think it's more like if Mac's role didn't exist, civs would have a 90% chance of winning, due to SVS's role being immortal. But since Mac's role countered SVS, his faction had 90% chance of winning instead.
Those two roles defined the game just be existing.
Those two roles defined the game just be existing.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:41 am
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]
Which doesn't matter much because he was guaranteed to get his wincon back after Epi died, and his role made it extremely easy for him to outlive Epi.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:08 am
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To be fair I barely knew how map targetting mechanics worked until I had a one or two nights of playing with them under my belt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:32 am When I got my role card it honestly never occurred to me that the role was OP. Nobody pointed at it in the role list as OP before or during the game either and all the roles were revealed. I never felt like this impervious super role at any stage even up until the final flip.
And I remember some talk both in the thread and btsc speculating who the kraken was. But we are not psychics, we can't just guess who they are and wipe them out. Assuming the kraken even was in the game. I recall two roles were not, right?
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:12 am
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That's literally the best time to discuss a game's balance.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:14 amtrue but i think the latter has its own place and it's not 5 minutes after the game endedcolonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:14 am I think "Mac played a good game and deserved a win" and "the balance of this setup was off" can both be true statements.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:15 am
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On the contrary. If vigs are required for the civs to win, it clearly means something is wrong.
Town's main tool is the lynch. If the lynch doesn't work, then town is underpowered.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:20 am
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LC I hope you don't see this as an attack to you. I really enjoyed playing this game and appreciate your effort in making and hosting it.
But I'm not just gonna sit down and say everything was perfect just to be political. If I have (constructive) criticism to make I will make them.
But I'm not just gonna sit down and say everything was perfect just to be political. If I have (constructive) criticism to make I will make them.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:11 pm
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Wait those unicorns actually did something?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm I'm very leery of changing win conditions, and I agree that -5 votes might be a little much (Though Mac only ever needed -2 to win the game in the end, victory well deserved regardless).
I also dislike silencing, and only ended up using the role for its vote utility after Mac took over the targeting for me. You guys got 4 days of no silence. Yer welcome.
I spent half the game chasing unicorns, who then (I think) died in the cataclysm. Then I got outted, died, rezzed, died, had surgery, and won the game.
Um. GG guys.
They were in C8 btw. And yes, they died.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:14 pm
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Well I also think the same, I just don't think the winning chances were that even in this game.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:05 pmNo, I don't feel attacked, I think we just have different ideas about what is balanced. For me balance is achieved when every faction has a decent chance at Victory, as opposed to something like Doctor Who Mafia, where a viral recruiter had to be killed immediately, or the game was 100% going to be theirs.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:20 am LC I hope you don't see this as an attack to you. I really enjoyed playing this game and appreciate your effort in making and hosting it.
But I'm not just gonna sit down and say everything was perfect just to be political. If I have (constructive) criticism to make I will make them.
But this is a hard argument to prove since there are so many variables, and I think I already made the main points.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:14 pm
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]
What were the 2 roles that were not in the game?
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:43 pm
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We all learn from each others' games. Posting feedback and discussing it helps with that. It's not about complaining about the results, it's about making the best use of whatever knowledge we gained here.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:21 pmYeah I double triple agree with this and it's not because I'm a winner (I mean I got killed too early to really contribute to the win). If it were me and I had a problem with the balance of a game and my objective was to give feedback to the host so they could improve in their next game I would give them the feedback privately. Why call out the host and winners publicly, what is the objective there?Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:49 amBecause that's the first thing the winner wants to read after a month of fighting for a win.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:12 amThat's literally the best time to discuss a game's balance.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:14 amtrue but i think the latter has its own place and it's not 5 minutes after the game endedcolonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:14 am I think "Mac played a good game and deserved a win" and "the balance of this setup was off" can both be true statements.![]()
The point here isn't "make Mac feel like a loser". He played amazingly and deserved to win. It's "unlynchable baddies are a bad idea, don't use it".
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:53 pm
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Sorry guys I'm insisting on this argument because I'm stubborn like that but I will stop before I offend anyone. I apologize if I already did.
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:28 pm
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Thanks, man. You guys did pretty well too. I thought you were very civ-like at the start.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:44 pm I felt like the remnant played very well in this game. Timmer and Bob were so hard to read as Mafia in the end I had my own POE and that's the only reason I figured them out. DDL got stitched up by info. TH killed n1.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:52 am
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Lmao so the random animal didn't even exist?
I think I also kept speculating a lot about Dark Worshipper, then later kind of forgot about him.
I think I also kept speculating a lot about Dark Worshipper, then later kind of forgot about him.
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:07 pm
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Thanks for having those games, guys. You guys really make my life more interesting especially when it is boring or lonely. It's a pleasure to come here and play games like this one, even if I get grumpy sometimes.
- Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:00 am
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Oh was a bit ugly but it was pretty fun imo.