The Syndicate

Rhyming in English? I'm not sure if I even know how to rhyme in Portuguese!

Als, here is a great song from this game:

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:08 pm At risk of sounding overly simplistic, role claiming and infodumping are allowed, and "the mafia have been given safe character claims drawn at random from a larger pool of possible civilian characters." So come Day 1, should we all just say our roles, then vote to lynch from among the roles that people double-claim?

Also, hard aree with sig on this: "Also fuck rhyming the whole reason i signed up for this game is since I don't wanna post why should I rhyme and be forced to post more."

Depends on how loyal to the flavor this game is.

If it is very loyal, the mafia will consist of Grunty, Klungo and maybe 1 or 2 bosses. Or maybe Grunty's talking spellbook and talking cauldron (though admitelly those two are also very likely town).

Town is going to have Banko, Kazooie, Mumbo, Bottles and some random NPCs.

The setup doesn't HAVE to be loyal to flavor tho. We could have a crazy twist where Kazooie is evil or something.

If it is loyal to flavor though, we may get away at confirming some players for having obvious heroic roles.

sig wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:00 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:52 pm Sig, can you actually engage me on this once, like for real? Why do you suspect me literally every game we play in? What strikes you as disingenuous about it?

We havent played a game in years you cant pull that card plus I'm fairly certain I didn't suspect you every game.
Your appealing to emotions way to fast for what's essential a minor poke. Big overreaction. Not even voting for you.
Gut and gut is rarely wrong.

To be fair, MP seven
Did just spend a whole game
Appealing to emotion. And that wasn't done with an evil aim
Because he was town in that game, even.

I'm using google to search for rhymes. I don't feel guilty at all.

My name is Dragon D. Luffy, and at this game I'm not half bad
The name is a pun, by a One Piece fan
Monkey D. Luffy is the main character, Dragon is his dad
When I first made that name it sounded like a more clever plan

At every forum I'd join during my internet way
I'd make a nickname with dragon on it
Teenagers love dragons, what can I say
But you can call me DDL, if that's what you see fit

I'm not good at rhymes, so yeah I'm looking for them online
But five extra posts can be a lot, I can't really ignore
So I'll get over this, finish this chore
And put the rhyming thing on the sideline

I said it's a chore, but this was actually kind of fun
I guess I'm fine with, once a day, doing this run
Now let's get begin the scumhunting
For ya, DDL is coming

I also felt a line of sarcasm and negativity in Sloonei's posts that I didn't like. It's faint, but makes me want to place my first vote there.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

I am ahead of my times.

Or more like I skimmed Jay's post and assumed all usual rhyming schemes were allowed.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:06 pm What? Huh? What are you talking about? Point to the things that you are talking about and explain why you don't like them.

Alright.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:00 pm

Day 0 begins now and will last 24 hours. Each player may post a maximum of 25 times during Day 0. All Jiggy pursuits, night actions, and voting will not take place until Day 1 and onward. You may begin posting.

y'all wasting moments with each rhyme. all that effort in vain for no benefit.

It's useful wisdom but I felt the tone here was a little mean.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:32 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:30 am In post number three
I will [VOTE: MP] aubergine
This ain't the dog pee
I think I'd see

You said this elsewhere
Recently. Tell me if you care
How it worked out for you then,
And you really want to pursue that again.

Bashing nutella for a recent mislynch in another game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:52 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:31 pm 3. Epignosis is town, but so is MP. Let’s not lynch either of them.

I warn you against making reads such as this. I swear in god's name you did the same in a recent game and it ended up the drizzling shits.

7. I don’t give a drizzling shit about being right at this stage. I have an immediate reaction to reads that have been put forth.

Epi out forth a read on MP and I believe his intentions were pure. MP looks like MP.

This one too.

Eh I'm not gonna be the purity guy, I am mean to people all the time too, this just gave me a feeling of scummy tone so I decided to poke it to see what happens.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 6:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 6:23 pm dunya seems her typical self
but she's not firmly on my town shelf
because I know she can be wily scum
but she's not under my voting thumb

dunya has 11 posts and Day 1 is halfway over.

I do not understand how you can say she seems like she's "dunya as usual."

This is a shit take.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Hmm

halfway over = 1/2

25/2 = 12.5

[mention]dunya[/mention] you are a little behind in your post/time ratio please make a few more posts so that you can be correctly perceived as "dunya as usual" by Epi

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:04 pm 11. I hit my rhyme quota. Let's get jiggy with it.

Responding to DDL:

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 4:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:00 pm

Day 0 begins now and will last 24 hours. Each player may post a maximum of 25 times during Day 0. All Jiggy pursuits, night actions, and voting will not take place until Day 1 and onward. You may begin posting.

y'all wasting moments with each rhyme. all that effort in vain for no benefit.

It's useful wisdom but I felt the tone here was a little mean.

That was a joke. No one caught it.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:32 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:30 am In post number three
I will [VOTE: MP] aubergine
This ain't the dog pee
I think I'd see

You said this elsewhere
Recently. Tell me if you care
How it worked out for you then,
And you really want to pursue that again.

Bashing nutella for a recent mislynch in another game.

"Bashing" is a little harsh and that certainly was not my intention. My point was just that I saw nutella make a nearly identical accusation against MP in Coronavirus Mafia a few weeks ago. I wanted to bring it up to get a response. She shrugged at it. My tone may have been thrown off by the rhyme scheme.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 2:52 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:31 pm 3. Epignosis is town, but so is MP. Let’s not lynch either of them.

I warn you against making reads such as this. I swear in god's name you did the same in a recent game and it ended up the drizzling shits.

7. I don’t give a drizzling shit about being right at this stage. I have an immediate reaction to reads that have been put forth.

Epi out forth a read on MP and I believe his intentions were pure. MP looks like MP.

This one too.

Literally just repeating Mac's own words back at him.

Eh I'm not gonna be the purity guy, I am mean to people all the time too, this just gave me a feeling of scummy tone so I decided to poke it to see what happens.

Am I coming off as mean? I don't... uh, intend to. Sometimes you gotta be blunt in a mafia game.

At the risk of being called out for backing down too easily, I don't believe that hard in this case. It was mostly an initial impression I had while reading your posts and now I don't feel like it can really hold down in a post-by-post analysis.

I guess I'll place it in the "bring it up again if Sloonei does more scummy stuff" file.

I like how more people are jumping on Sloonei since I called it first, but at the same time I wonder if there isn't some opportunism here. Feels like one of those early Jay/MP wagons we tend to have in this site for no reason.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:50 pm I realise that I have failed to include Luffy in my power rankings. Let's put him in the town pile.

Wow easiest town read I've ever gotten.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:26 pm Yeah I played against him in Assassin's Creed where I was bad and he was town, so I know exactly what he's capable of. He's just posting reads lists, that won't help him find baddies, it just makes him look like a fun guy.

If it were just town/mafia reads maybe, but he's saying a lot of interesting stuff. I think it's fine.

Ok so dunya and MP are acting like classic supatown duya and MP, not enough for me to be able to locktown them but enough for me to want to leave them alone for the time being.

Epi's case on dunya is weird af but it could be the normal epi thing.

I feel cool about Mac, too.

Russ feels very honest too.

Everyone else is whatever.

No idea who to vote for. I'm tempted to park my vote on this juicy TH wagon that seems to be starting to form. I miss super happy and casual TH (though he did make some posts like that in D0). Mac could be onto something that triggered TH is bad.

But I see nutella and TSP on it? Neither of them have yet to earn places my civ pile. DO NOT WANT.

Of course Gobi was the first to die. This is so much within the flavor.

Anyway, I thought EoD was around the same time of most games in this site, so I didn't come to check until now. Meh.

Not that I'm complaining, I think I actually prefer this time.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 12:40 pm Hey DDL, why do you not feel like you can town read nutella or Tony?

They were just null reads. And since I had just called about 4 players as civ reads, it was wierd to just sheep on a wagon by two people I didn't feel anything about.

Oh hey GTH

I'm still catching up so I guess I'll join later

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:23 pm TonyStarkPrime:

Eh. Tiny thing in his favor. Won't mention what it is.

I would not lynch TSP today.

I'm assuming this tiny thing is related to the game that just ended. If so, would you like to mention it now?

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 4:18 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:23 pm
G-Man:

He needs more time to post. He doesn't have much, but I will say this:

-Not a fan of his insistence on rhyming. Yes, it’s cheeky and fun but even I won’t encourage everyone to post solely in rhymes. Not a fan of his repetition of it. (-1)

...is strange coming from a guy who insists on practicing strange and quirky gimmicks all the time (his posts all start with a P, this time, by the way).

It's doubtful to me that someone of G-Man's quirky caliber would characterize posting in rhymes as something bad or inscrutable. We understand song lyrics just fine (well, most. We have Yes and Led Zeppelin...)

I would lynch G-Man today.

Peculiar? Yes. Hypocritical? Perhaps. In this game, there is a limit to how beneficial the rhymes are. You can fit them in here and there between prose as well. Once the benefit is over, sticking with the rhymes just impairs communication. I think it’s his apparent stubbornness to abstain from prose more so than the use of rhyme. My play experience with him is quite limited. If he’s quirky like me, then it might make sense. I lack that context. I’m voting for Nanook now so I have a vote on the board as I start ISOing the people I have little to no read on.

Damn G-Man don't make me defend nanook. I don't want to defend Nanook.

But yeah, you of all people being annoyed about imparting communication is well... ironic.

And yeah dude is quirky af. Though I'm yet to play with town him so I'm just assuming I don't know his meta.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:50 pm macdougall being saved. unimpressed, but will double down next phase.

linki: epi making it a tie! :o

Top 10 worst aging posts of 2020

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:54 pm Also I’ll defend you too DDL I actually think >rand chance you’re town.

Thanks for the thought, but I am sure I'll vote for you the first time someone suggests that to me.

Yes I'm burning posts rn.

My cap is 30 the night closes in 2 hours.

Saying this now so I don't have to use the much more important day 2 cap to explain this.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:36 pm Okay. Lynching Mac=bad. Anyone who voted for him=scum. Easy.

Was this sarcasm?

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 1:09 pm Rats. I forgot that I wanted to ask Mac why he thought I don’t like playing mafia. That’s a false assessment. It’ll have to wait for post-game now.

I mean you literally hide from your wife to play mafia.

If that's not liking it I don't know what it is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:18 pmDDL is town

Not sure how you concoluded that from a sequence of 3 filler posts, but thanks.

Ok, caught up. Let's do the GTH thingy

Dragon D. Luffy: town
dunya: town
Epignosis: town
G-Man: town
M Plus 7: town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME: scum
nutella: scum
Russtifinko: town
sig: town
Sloonei: scum
speedchuck: town
TonyStarkPrime: scum
Turnip Head: scum

The ranking from "I actually feel bad about this person" to "I wasn't allowed to vote neutral so I voted scum cuz I don't wanna have too little scum reads" was

TH > nutella > sloonei > nanook > TSP

TH is still kind of weird in day 1 and I do agree on Mac's point about him that he was sheeping too much. Yeah maybe sheeping is fine but TH didn't really impress me otherwise.

nutella feels a little disconnected from the game, like she's saying a lot but not participating much. That said she probably ranks high in the list of people I've mislynched the most, so I'll tread carefully here.

Literally no idea how to read nanook. I don't know how to interpret he going against Sig. I don't know what to do with him. Send help.

TSP is also pretty meh. Dunno what to think of him yet.

Sloonei I do agree feels different but the argument that he is out of his element due to the post restriction is valid. Need more time to assess.

dunya feels very honest and I can understand her thought proccesses just fine.

MP is a bit less obvious but so far he's easy enough to understand too. Maybe make this a light green.

Epi is actually mindmelding with me a lot which is rare. His big read post in D1 was very agreeable. He said some weird shit but coming from him it's okay.

G-Man's lists also make kind of sense and is giving me an okay feel. Light green.

Russ feels honest af.

Sig is being a jerk but that actually makes it less likely he is bad. I'm not sure if baddie Sig would do that kind of gratuitous bullying on MP for in-game reasons. Basically what speed said about him.

Speed is very hard to read but the stuff he said about Sig I really agree it so he earns a light green.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:32 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 1:09 pm Rats. I forgot that I wanted to ask Mac why he thought I don’t like playing mafia. That’s a false assessment. It’ll have to wait for post-game now.

I mean you literally hide from your wife to play mafia.

If that's not liking it I don't know what it is.

Pretty good these days at hiding the fact that I’m playing from her. I don’t hide from her in order to play. She understands that I consider this community to be part of my social life and that I consider several people here to be good friends. Thanks for making it sound like I go cower in a closet or something. If that’s something else to add to the list of things that people don’t like about me around here, then maybe I should just hang it up altogether. GoC sure made me consider it. Time changes people and forums.

Wow I hope that didn't come accross as negative, it was just a joke. I love playing with you or playing your games and I definitely enjoy having you around.

Sorry, dude.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 5:06 pm Hey DDL, can you talk to me more about certain reads? I'm most interested in the dunya, Epi, and Russ ones. What specifically feels honest from dunya and Russ? And with Epi, what was the weird shit you're referring to there?

dunya and russ are my biggest two reads so I guess it makes sense I didn't elaborate much, just feeling a lot of honesty and understanding their thought proccesses.

Epi had some moments where he called people bad for bizarre reasons, such as when he said you should enjoy counting since you are an accountant. Or that exchange when he calls Sig bad for having apparently contradicting thoughts but then backs down when Sig replies with the obvious explanation (like, Epi should have thought it himself to begin with).

That's the Epi thing, though, at this point I've learned not to read him bad every time he says something I heavily disagree with.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 5:14 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:32 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 1:09 pm Rats. I forgot that I wanted to ask Mac why he thought I don’t like playing mafia. That’s a false assessment. It’ll have to wait for post-game now.

I mean you literally hide from your wife to play mafia.

If that's not liking it I don't know what it is.

Pretty good these days at hiding the fact that I’m playing from her. I don’t hide from her in order to play. She understands that I consider this community to be part of my social life and that I consider several people here to be good friends. Thanks for making it sound like I go cower in a closet or something. If that’s something else to add to the list of things that people don’t like about me around here, then maybe I should just hang it up altogether. GoC sure made me consider it. Time changes people and forums.

Wow I hope that didn't come accross as negative, it was just a joke. I love playing with you or playing your games and I definitely enjoy having you around.

Sorry, dude.

Also my sentence was not very clear maybe, but I saying I feel you do like playing mafia.

Vompatti is what we'd call a dadaist mafia player.

There is no obvious meaning to his posts. No direction or inherent logic.

You don't understand Vompatti, you experience Vompatti.

Nanook is fucking JaggedJimmyJay compared to Vompatti.

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 9:48 pm SO a combination of factors effected my mafia read of MP.

Last game, which just ended with a mafia victory, the team included MP who had flipped civ, but was actually mafia. He reacted the same way there when I poked him as he did here and said I just hound him for no reason. I'm seeing the same game-play here and have the same gut feel.

Which is the main reason why I'm sticking to my guns here with my MP read.

Mac, rip was wrong there, not the end of the world. I do plan to reread some things, but overall alot of people are still just leans.

You do realize MP replaced someone else in that game and the one you poked was town, right?

You never interacted with scum MP that game.

Hello again, it's me, Dragon
I'm gonna list the players so we can build a wagon
Someone just slayed our friend Epi
Poor dude didn't deserve to be killed for free

I also wish we could still listen to MacDougall
Who, unfortunatelly, is also dead
He had some interesting things to say about Turnip Head
Which we can't just find by using Google

You will find there are a lot of places to look
If you sit down and just take your time
We could lynch, for example, TonyStarkPrime
Or try to figure out what the deal is with Nanook

Also, what exactly is going on with Sig
And his strange beef with our friend, The Sock
I suppose reading the later can be a challenge that is big
Since here he can't just make posts all around the clock

But maybe you want to lynch a gal, instead of a fella
In which case I recommend you look at nutella
Or perhaps, you can suspect the other girl, dunya
Who, apparently, only rhymes with petunia

Just make sure you pick a wagon, don't be a sitting duck
You may find that out to be a bad plan
You could end up in the bottom of the list of G-Man
Or find yourself being questioned by Speedchuck

What about we instead lynch Russtifinko
But maybe you'd say that is a load of baloney
Instead, we could try to read our buddy Sloonei
This game is getting hard, I think I'll just go play bingo

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 6:27 pm Someone should be tracking jiggies
but that someone can't be me
if no one wants to, that's no biggie
it poses no benefit I can see

I'm curious enough to explore this avenue

DDL - 1
dunya - 0
G-Man - 1
MP7 - 0
Nanook - 2
nutella - 1
Russtifinko - 0
Sig - 1
Sloonei - ???
Speed - 0
Tony - 1
Turnip - ???

Sloonei has a 22 post cap. And he actually made the rhymes yesterday, so it should be 30.

TH has a 26 post cap. He also made the rhymes, so it should also be 30.

Are there any mistakes with counting, [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] ?

G-Man only made 18 lines of rhyme yesterday, so I dunno if he was actually given a jiggy for it or through other means.

Sig did not rhyme Day 1, but got a jiggy by some other means.

Nanook did rhyme Day 1, and got a second jig somewhere else.

The rest checks out.

Sorry about the public question Jay. I actually checked the rules to see if there was any mention of that but didn't saw any, so I figured I might as well do it.

Ok, updating

DDL - 1
dunya - 0
G-Man - 1
MP7 - 0
Nanook - 2
nutella - 1
Russtifinko - 0
Sig - 1
Sloonei - 1
Speed - 0
Tony - 1
Turnip - 1

No rhyme but got jiggies: Sig (1), Nanook (1)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:34 pm That’s nice and all but I have what is pretty likely a red check on him, so.

I’m bored of this heavy implication
Just tell me why
You think that, in my situation
I should vote for this guy

He is obviously implying he used an investigation on Sig that gave him a guilty result.

Also explains where he got the extra jiggy from. I assume he only gets the jiggy if he hits a mafioso, or something like that.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Seems like his role doesn't exactly give out alignment results, but it gives jiggies depending on certain parameters and the fact nanook got a jiggy makes him think Sig is bad. Maybe he is awarded a jiggy if he targets someone who used a kill ability, for example.

And nanook is not allowed to elaborate because we are not allowed to explain how we are getting our extra jiggies. We just know he got an extra jiggy in a way that makes Sig likely to be bad, but the exact connection is unclear.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:44 am You're making a loooot of assumptions about how nanook's role works, Luffy. Why are you doing that?

I'm doing that because I want to figure the game out.

We know nanook got an extra jiggy this night. His cap today is 35. Count his posts if you disagree.

We know jiggies are related to abilities. Whatever it is that nanook did last night awarded him a jiggy.

It makes sense for nanook to have targeted Sig with whatever ability he has after he was the last wagon.

And nanook got a jiggy for targetting Sig. Exactly why that happened is a mystery because Nanook is not allowed to reveal how he gets jiggies, but apparently it's something that makes it likely, but not outright confirms, that Sig is bad. Something like a tracker or an ability cop.

Just use logic, it's not too hard.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:59 am That's not logic though it's wild guessing. Nanook hasn't said at ant point that h es not allowed to share how he got his "check".

It's in the game's rules. You are not allowed to reveal how you get jiggies.

We know nanook got a jiggy in the night and he's claiming something happened in the night that that made him believe Sig is bad, those two are obviously connected.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 11:03 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:47 pm dunya feels very honest and I can understand her thought proccesses just fine.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

no way you have no reservations about me in a game where we are t/t lmao. you and nutella bad?

i'm surprised you didn't include a sloonei blurb there when he's been a big vocal point for most of us. you started by saying his tone was mean and scum reading him for it. do you feel bad about it? feels like real guilt there.

i need nanook to clarify what he means about red checking sig. why is he asking him to roleclaim? i have a moral dilemma in believing sig would have pushed mp that far if he was mafia and mp wasn't. i think it went beyond what is acceptable in a mafia game. color me naive, but that's where i stand.

I don't HAVE to suspect you in a game every time.

I also agree Sig doing what he did to MP while mafia crosses the line but I think he already crossed the line anyway so I'm just taking the fact Sig is a jerk for granted and rolling with it.

I dunno how to read Sloonei. My case on him was weak af, based on some early feel of sarcasm I'm not really getting anymore. I also agree with everyone and their dog he is off-meta, but not sure if that's AI.

If nanook can fool me 3 consecutive games I'll probably cry irl, but I guess an investigation result can overcome even my biggest instincts of not wanting to look like an idiot.

That said, I do think naook's claim isn't the most airtight. Even if I'm right about him not being able to reveal because of the jiggy rule, it's still not a very solid looking case, because we don't know the details and nanook himself admitted he isn't 100% sure.

But the fact Sig digging his own grave by refusing to claim doesn't help and makes me want to keep my vote there.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 pm now these are my 4 rhymes today

Cool, you need just one more now.

I don't remember which game it was, but I think there was an instance where town Sig lost a game on purpose to make a point about being against claiming. Or maybe it was someone else (this happens a lot in the other forum I play in). Correct me if I'm wrong.

If this is true it makes me paranoid, though. There is a good chance nanook is telling the truth but his info isn't really conclusive, and Sig is gonna self destruct to make a point anyway.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 8:10 pm My goodness it's quiet here
Is everyone spectating champs?
Or are we just waiting a year
for sig to respond to nook's clamps?


(7)

I wanted to save most of my posts for the second day.

But second day is here so better start using them!

I'm getting second thoughts about this Sig lynch. It is logical, but gut says it's too easy and there is a good chance Sig has the perfect explanation against it but refuses to claim and dooms himself. Also aside from nanook's ping, I really do think he looks more civ than bad.

I made a point about him having already crossed the line but chances Sig was just feeling he was right on the whole MP debacle and faking that is a level of scumminess I'm not sure he'd go to. Honestly, I was also pretty bothered by that whole thing on MP's behalf. I tend to get emotional when I think someone else is being bullied.

I wanna sheep on Sloon's G-Man case. Wasn't suspecting G-Man that much but he wasn't a strong green either. Sloon makes good points. G-Man is saying a lot without commiting to anything.

[VOTE: G-Man] aubergine

If sig is actually a civ though, this does make me feel TH's defense of him is a load of TMI. Like he knows the case is going to fail so he is disqualifying the people who are pursuing it in advance.

Eh guys the day locks in 30 minutes this low activity is officially scaring me now.

Eh it's a mafia classic, if there is a cop result the activity grinds down to halt, regardless of how much people say we should be pursuing other suspects.

People don't want to work more than they see necessary.

I wish I could help more but I've actually made my points both against and for Sig and decided I'm more confortable not lynching him. Though maybe I could change back if better arguments appear or a bad wagon grows. Dunno. I think I'll just stick around burning posts and watching the thread.

Meanwhile, enjoy a classic of this game's sequel.



And its ice version!

Turnip.

If Sig is not bad, TH's defense of him looks very fabricated.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:50 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:43 pm Turnip.

If Sig is not bad, TH's defense of him looks very fabricated.

What is fabricated about it?
Does his tone seem fake?
Or are his arguments shit?
Explain this false-Turnip take.

Like, he seems to be using a tone that is trying to implicate people for being wrong about him.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:44 am You're making a loooot of assumptions about how nanook's role works, Luffy. Why are you doing that?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:59 am That's not logic though it's wild guessing. Nanook hasn't said at ant point that h es not allowed to share how he got his "check". He pushed his check a little and if you go back to when he first mentioned it, it almost sounds like he wasn't even serious about it, and then he sort of quietly mentioned it a second time. The way he went about it is sus as fuck and you're just rolling with it and coming up with explanations FOR him.

I'm going to start saving my posts now but I'm a little surprised how easily you're treating a theory as a fact.

If Nanook wants us to take him seriously he should answer some of this for himself, and stop letting his pet dragon do the PR.

The focus doesn't seem to be on what he thinks about Sig but whether I am making assumptions, or following Nanook without questioning. It's like he's setting me up to be lynched if/after Sig flips town (and if he's bad, he knows Sig will flip town).

I don't like the tone either, feels like he's being way more dramatic than the situation warrants.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:55 pm Like what’s the argument for not killing Sig today? So we can keep him around as a distraction tomorrow? If you don’t like how today has gone, the solution isn’t “let’s kill someone else lulz” it’s kill Sig and move on with his flip.

And let’s be real here, if he flips town that refused to claim and also didn’t play....that’s not a loss I’m sad about, ngl

I mean all of those are right but at the end of the day we still gotta lynch mafia.

And if we have reasons to think your peek is not reliable (you say it isn't) and that Sig looks more like a person who got angry and blasted out of the door than a mafioso caught without a counterclaim... that is worth considering.

Leaving a town Sig who may not come back around is still better than lynching a town Sig.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:58 pm if I was bad and sig was good I think I would have just gotten on the sig wagon cuz it was served up on a silver platter. Itheres no brownie points to win by my contraianism.

Wifom.

Don't pretend the opposite stratregy is not common or good.

Especially if there are no scum wagons on site. Mafia might as well spread their votes around and go do their own things.

LINKI: meh

I just like to apply the Theorem of Epignosis here:

"If your strategy does not aim to lynch mafia, your strategy is bullshit"