The Syndicate

You and Mac have the most posts by a mile. You more so than even Mac.

Nice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:13 am Ender knows Rondo personally so if anyone wants a read on him y'all should be hounding his ass.

Rondo is probably town this game.

I want to say I've said that already but tbh I dunno.

I've been in an exhausted haze for like, four days now. (irl days)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:17 am where did this 112 wagon come from?

Me I think. I voted them because I thought they got away with kinda an ATE-y defense and then slanked yesterday.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:19 am i think poison and michelle are townie (i got more convinced on michelle once she pushed koba)

tsp and sig are confirming each other / tsp is confirming sig

Rondo gth town still

urist’s posts are so weird he’s probably a villager

I didn’t like ender’s push on sig / his posts on page 57 or whatever it was and i am confused why he has not outed a rondo read yet, and we’re on day 2.

otherwise pretty confusing

This reads bad faith and jumping on Mac's comment.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:21 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:19 am i think poison and michelle are townie (i got more convinced on michelle once she pushed koba)

tsp and sig are confirming each other / tsp is confirming sig

Rondo gth town still

urist’s posts are so weird he’s probably a villager

I didn’t like ender’s push on sig / his posts on page 57 or whatever it was and i am confused why he has not outed a rondo read yet, and we’re on day 2.

otherwise pretty confusing

who has a gun to your head?

Ender just finished work so itll be incoming soon I bet

Rondo underestimated how tired I was after work lmao.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:40 am Ill give u the mafia:

Poison, Koba, Nanook, Ender, (falcon/radish)

There's two people who are definitely town here.

One of them is me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:41 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:38 am Mac do you have a read on ender?

Last read on him was town. He seems to be fighting the good fight here on the main. Albeit a little detatched.

Tired and busy unfortunately.

But I'm here now. I'll be here for a few hours. Gonna try and solve for a while.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:41 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:37 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:32 am I need to find more trusted town. There isn't enough obvious town outside of Ted now that Kza died. I almost feel obliged to treat people I'm sus of as townfirms for the benefit of the gamestate.

Maybe I need to reassess everyone on skim. I will do that.

I'm literally right here, wow

Well see the reason I want trusted town is so I can solve as a group and I tried to engage you on your Epi read and you memed at me so even if you are town you're not the type of town I am currently sourcing.

Idk what to tell you, he did his mafia stuff...he has seemingly no plan, he's posting a fair amount but most of its that kind of grey area not quite fluff but not quite reads either stuff, he makes consistent excuses for not having thoughts (in a vacuum this is whatever in combination with the no plan thing its scummy)

Basically hes trying but not in a townie way, idk if that makes sense as a way to describe it

All I am seeing is Epi being Epi?

Yeah its hard to articulate thats why I gave you a meme response instead

Its like

So he's presenting as "i don't have much time but idgaf" town epi yeah, with some flippant responses and stealing my gimmick

But he's actually been here a fair bit by his posting and his rl excuses are in practice excusing lack of thoughts more than they are lack of presence

And lack of presence town epi is, at least in my experience, keenly aware of his lack of presence and tries to find other ways to contribute. I really doubt town epi without a ton of time to devote to the game shoots town (admittedly a town he doesnt care for), then just goes on his marry well with seemingly no plan for how to contribute to the town moving forward.


Like it's not an ironclad read but I feel reasonably good about it, it's just super hard for me to articulate it in a convincing fashion that people can't just wave off as "thats just epi lol"

This is actually a decent argument ngl. Especially as I've seen low-contribution Epi pull out some zingers as town.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:32 am I need to find more trusted town. There isn't enough obvious town outside of Ted now that Kza died. I almost feel obliged to treat people I'm sus of as townfirms for the benefit of the gamestate.

Maybe I need to reassess everyone on skim. I will do that.

let me help you. I am town.

Every time I think I can put you in the town basket and not worry about you, you say something that makes me narrow my eyes like this...

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:43 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:41 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:38 am Mac do you have a read on ender?

Last read on him was town. He seems to be fighting the good fight here on the main. Albeit a little detatched.

Tired and busy unfortunately.

But I'm here now. I'll be here for a few hours. Gonna try and solve for a while.

i remember someone said they were your irl friend how you read them atm?

Rondo. Probably (Maybe) town.

Read up.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:56 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:52 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:51 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:48 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:42 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:39 am Poison u askin for a whole can of ass whoopin yea girl

i mean I'm free till 4pm it's 3:11pm i think i can read wallies you post in the mean time.

Why are you not being towny tutuu?

you make a wall post as to why tutuu is wolf but you dont vote? That could be seen as performative

then be it so.

I usually vote near the EoD or when I am sure after ISOing all my scum reads, regardless of alignment.

Just wanted to hear your reasoning as to why. Thats all. If EOD was in 5 minutes would your vote be on tutuu or someone else? If it would be on tutuu, if you couldnt vote her who would your next vote be?

same question for basically everyone else as well if they answer within the next hour or less, if you quote this after an hour from now I think you are scum

Hi. =P

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:09 am tutuu
MacDougall
sig
RondoDimBuckle
Epignosis
Syn
tedxtr
Urist
TonyStarkPrime

Ruri
Michelle
Scotty
DrWilgy
112

Master Radishes
falcon45ca

Poison
EnderWiggin
Made
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba

Interesting why wiggin so low?

he shaded sig who i think is town

he shaded syn who i think is town

he defended koba who i think is mafia

Apparently no town can disagree with you then?

Alright.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:47 am tedxtr has died.

Spoiler: show

They were Casimir Bassi: Demolitions Expert

Ah.

Well confirming Scotty is kinda worth it.

Mostly because I was actually starting to check ted because I was starting to scumread.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:53 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:51 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:21 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:09 am tutuu
MacDougall
sig
RondoDimBuckle
Epignosis
Syn
tedxtr
Urist
TonyStarkPrime

Ruri
Michelle
Scotty
DrWilgy
112

Master Radishes
falcon45ca

Poison
EnderWiggin
Made
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba

Interesting why wiggin so low?

he shaded sig who i think is town

he shaded syn who i think is town

he defended koba who i think is mafia

Apparently no town can disagree with you then?

Alright.

town can disagree with me

u arent town tho. suck it

Saying that doesn't change my role PM funnily enough.

But that's okay. If you're town I'll help you find me over the next few hours.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:53 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:24 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:56 pm nook

made

are the people in my opinion had the scummiest day 2's

koba and michelle i started off scumreading but i thought had some good stuff, so im deciding what to think

radish, poison and falcon are the other 3 people i had the intention to scumread, still havent decided yet / havent read back / havent seen a lot today to judge

Other than Nook I vibe with a lot of this.

Made was towny D1 but I'm wavering on that one. His D2 has not felt good.

first sentence defending scumbuddy

second sentence also defending scumbuddy. that one is an even more obvious distancing attempt imo. its just textbook

Ah. Yes. I'm a textbook wolf, aren't I?

So which construction company do you go to for your tunnelling services?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:55 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:52 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:36 pm I would expect at least 1 or 2 mafia to be on scum syn at this point, and the only one on this train that feels mafia lean is Poison. Don’t know how to feel about that

thoughts tutuu?

he might just be correct, i dunno

like i dont know in context / not sure if i buy too much into wagonomics like this, but it aligns with my reads perfectly

except your syn read

oh oki - yeah i think syn is town

Lmao

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:18 am Anywho for clarity I have a passive role in addition to my inno child that is called mirror... anyone who targets me targets themselves instead. Except direct killshots.

I would say that the host forgot about that part of my role at first.

Lmao.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:40 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:34 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:19 am i think poison and michelle are townie (i got more convinced on michelle once she pushed koba)

tsp and sig are confirming each other / tsp is confirming sig

Rondo gth town still

urist’s posts are so weird he’s probably a villager

I didn’t like ender’s push on sig / his posts on page 57 or whatever it was and i am confused why he has not outed a rondo read yet, and we’re on day 2.

otherwise pretty confusing

This reads bad faith and jumping on Mac's comment.

Ted is flipped villager, he never posts in bad faith.

WELP

Alright I'm going to actually start doing my construction company schtick.

Let me start a list and progress on it.

Poisoned:
Michelle

Confirmed Town:
MacDougall
Scotty

The rest Previous feelings from the slanker:
Towny:
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Reads progression feels like his towngame
RondoDimBuckle - I don't see this scatteredness coming from scum!Rondo just yet, I don't know if he's that comfortable in forum mafia to be able to do that in his first scum rand.
Urist - Several reads had progression > I don't like his takes but I think he's town despite it
Epignosis - I think the dayvig thing is just... town. I don't see how scum!Epi with a silent dayvig doesn't just wipe out the IC.

Paired - Maybe towny:
sig - Only up here because of TSP
TonyStarkPrime - Only up here because of Sig

Was a townread but feeling worse:
Made - Was townier D1 but day 2 has not... really progressed. I don't even remember exactly what they posted that made me think they were town
tutuu - I had them as town d1, I'm not going to lie 90% of my bad gut is OMGUS because I hate their tunnel but I promised Mac an ISO so I'm going to re-eval at that point
Master Radishes - Their D2 has seemed somewhat opportunistic. Will check ISO later to see if I'm right on this.

Have barely read:
falcon45ca - I don't remember a post they have tbh
Poison - They've posted a bunch but I don't remember having a read on them tbh

Lightly scummy:
DkKoba - I don't like their D2 ATE.
DrWilgy - I don't remember liking them ever but nothing specific

Heavily scummy:
Syn - More diplomatic than I expect from town!Syn
Ruri - A lot of stuff like votecounts that feels like content for the sake of content
112 - ATE'd to get out of a wagon and then slanked. That's just a bad look.

Actually, I'm tempted to give the Towny Arrogance read to Tutuu now I think about it. Diplomatic scum are deep scum. Aggro scum aren't.

That being said I know a good scum can imitate that

Alright, Tutuu ISO time, because I promised Mac.

I'm not finishing that ISO.

Tutu is either town or a scum that can perfectly fake progression as scum. I'm willing to bet on the town side. It's a waste of time for me to keep that going.

NGL was hoping to find scum equity in the ISO because that's what happened last time Mac asked me to ISO someone I leant town on.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:48 am so that makes Scotty confirmed town

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:48 am Rip.

So Scotty cleared then.

I am still reading through but if Scotty is confirmed town because Ted killed self trying to kill a wolf but turned out villager then doesnt that mean Epi is confirmed villager because Axe tried to shoot Epi and Axe died instead of Epi? OR does it mean that Epi day vigged Axe? I am not sure on how that one went. Does that change how we read the Epi/Axe situation? If this has already been talked about I am catching up and will see it soon no need to reply

Different roles.

Epi is dayvig.

Ted was Desperado. Dayvig but can't kill town, only actually kills if they hit maf. If they target town it kills them instead, hence Ted's death.

NAA was claiming night-vig.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:45 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:44 am

Spoiler: show

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:10 pm jpic: this game won't be bastard

also jpic when resolving night actions:

I forgot she started out with something hilarious like this.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:07 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:04 pm i think tutuu could be wolfing and would like to ask her her thoughts on this.

hmmmm

i dont think im wolfing

Not paired with 112

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:59 am Yea he is syn u baka

Syn/tsp not w/w

Not paired with Syn. Also this unpairing looks good.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:07 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:55 am I'm sitting here. I have a vote. Now look away. Now back again.

My vote is on a wolf. Don't you wish your vote could be on a wolf? It could, but it's not my vote. Now look down at your vote. See how it's in your hand, and not on a wolf?

Now look up again.

I'm on a horse.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I forgot I did this post. This is just here because I think that was a hilarious post.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:39 am Eh i think rondo had some towny posts

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I think my reads are at

Townread tutuu
Ender
112

Just noting this for progression purposes

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:28 am

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:00 amRondo tutuu maf

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:01 am Rondo is pretty obv maf actually

i was just reading over rondo's posts before these posts and i think the thought process urist had here is towny. he didnt voice it but it was clear to me and i think its towny

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:02 am @Justplayingitcool should sort the vc alphabetically next time

and yes please i agree

Ooooh yes. I remember part of why I liked them early. This was a mindmeld with my reaction to this post. Then she kept responding to memes and I started sussing that.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:19 pm 112
ender
urist
kza

epi

Consistent progression yup.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:42 pm

You say that every game, you’re either mafia trying to get me before my macader (Mac radar) catches you or more accurately just misreading me. Like always

I don't always misread you. I rarely do.

Mac are you mafia?

You can tell me it’s fine this is a safe space.

Sig I can tell you're wolfing here. There's no need to continue this silliness.

okay im very confident mac is town. usually i struggle reading him but this falls makes sense with what he's previously said about people telling him in confidence that he's mafia, and when he was mafia that scared him off and outed him once, and then him doing that as part of his town repertoaire as well

to clarify he doesnt scumread sig here nor does he scumread me in the post he said he's scumreading me (he might scumread us later) - but those scumreads werent like "i judge u to be scum" but "are u scum? reveal yourself"

sorry for not waiting until sig's response before i reveal the curtain but yeah, i just wanted to throw out my confident townread while its fresh in my head so i dont forget to later or i forget how to describe it later, i thought thats more fruitful than the tiny chance sig making an alignment indicative response (also maybe im feeling myself looking towny for this post? feels kinda towny of a post of me to make (to me at least idk)). so yeah imma submit this one

This thought process is very towny.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:38 pm i searched for some more stuff said by our host on the discord for clues for his game design preferences

he doesnt consider cult bastard, but difficult to balance

godfather being called bastard grinds his gears, so yall watch out for a godfather please

(and as previously mentioned i think he has put a neutal serial killer in)

This warning also feels towny.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:37 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:49 am Lock V:
MacDougall

Those I know, and probably can read:
Michelle
tedxtr
EnderWiggin

Played with before, don't remember:
Syn
112
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Should be on my radar:
tutuu

The rest:
Creature
NotAnAxehole
sig
falcon45ca
Urist
RondoDimBuckle
Master Radishes
Epignosis
DkKoba
Made
Poison
DrWilgy
Scotty
KZA
TonyStarkPrime

- signed, Ruri

There really are no reads here. I think u might be mafia

This is towny too.

Fuck it.

I'm not finishing that ISO.

Tutu is either town or a scum that can perfectly fake progression as scum. I'm willing to bet on the town side. It's a waste of time for me to keep that going.

NGL was hoping to find scum equity in the ISO because that's what happened last time Mac asked me to ISO someone I leant town on.

you just read one page.

:reeeeeeeeeeee:

2 pages.

And only needed 2. =P

DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:46 am also im fed up and im going to claim: I am a roleblocker (not x shot) - targeted poison last night and it was successful

Lol. This just makes you look scummier but okay.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:47 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:13 am Ender knows Rondo personally so if anyone wants a read on him y'all should be hounding his ass.

Rondo is probably town this game.

probably town or town?

Probably.

I have a slight background thought that you just decided to copy a certain someone when you finally randed scum, but I think you're probably just town.

Rondo, what's your read on me?

DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:48 am

DkKoba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:46 am also im fed up and im going to claim: I am a roleblocker (not x shot) - targeted poison last night and it was successful

Lol. This just makes you look scummier but okay.

How?

No fear of anti-claim + Claiming something that doesn't really resolve anything for town + Generally scummy power.

Poisoned:
Michelle

Confirmed Town:
MacDougall
Scotty

Town:
tutuu - ISO is just good.

The rest Previous feelings from the slanker:
Towny:
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Reads progression feels like his towngame
RondoDimBuckle - I don't see this scatteredness coming from scum!Rondo just yet, I don't know if he's that comfortable in forum mafia to be able to do that in his first scum rand.
Urist - Several reads had progression > I don't like his takes but I think he's town despite it
Epignosis - I think the dayvig thing is just... town. I don't see how scum!Epi with a silent dayvig doesn't just wipe out the IC.

Paired - Maybe towny:
sig - Only up here because of TSP
TonyStarkPrime - Only up here because of Sig

Was a townread but feeling worse:
Made - Was townier D1 but day 2 has not... really progressed. I don't even remember exactly what they posted that made me think they were town
Master Radishes - Their D2 has seemed somewhat opportunistic. Will check ISO later to see if I'm right on this.

Have barely read:
falcon45ca - I don't remember a post they have tbh
Poison - They've posted a bunch but I don't remember having a read on them tbh

Lightly scummy:
DkKoba - I don't like their D2 ATE.
DrWilgy - I don't remember liking them ever but nothing specific

Heavily scummy:
Syn - More diplomatic than I expect from town!Syn
Ruri - A lot of stuff like votecounts that feels like content for the sake of content
112 - ATE'd to get out of a wagon and then slanked. That's just a bad look.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:59 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 am Rondo, what's your read on me?

its not day 3 yet so not my problem. Town for now

... Okay?

I feel like you've tried to read me before D3 before though.

Okay so specifically Nanook's stubborn trend-bucking play is more his town meta than his scum meta, as I've now seen multiple games where he plays more alongside town with less disagreement. In fact when he shows an opinion that thread disagreed with in a past mafia game he let himself be "convinced".

This is Nanook specifically sticking to a tunnel that everyone disagrees with.

I don't know if he's right, but I think he's towny for it.

(P.S. I think he's wrong still currently)

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:09 am Ruri posting VCs is such a townie thing to do, @EnderWiggin give me full thoughts on her please

You caught me at the perfect time, I just finished my Nanook ISO.

Lemme quickly go ISO.

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:57 am [VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Had to copy format from another user. Also, I checked through Mac's ISO. Looks good TBH.

Early townread on Mac.

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:51 am Skimmed here and there. Didn't know Mac was a fellow Scorpio.

Tutuu has good posts. Upon checking Mac's posts, I'm not sure about him yet. Syn seems to be...underwhelming. Made had some sus posts, so I'll ISO that.

Rescind's townread on Mac, town on Tutu, light sus on Syn/Made.

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:55 am Okay, nevermind. Made looks good for now.

Changes Made to town.

I don't like rapid swapping like this, tbh, because it often feels like scum trying to fake progression.

The counterpoint is I can mostly see how they swapped those, not sure entirely on the Mac one though.

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:33 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:07 pm

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:51 am Skimmed here and there. Didn't know Mac was a fellow Scorpio.

Tutuu has good posts. Upon checking Mac's posts, I'm not sure about him yet. Syn seems to be...underwhelming. Made had some sus posts, so I'll ISO that.

what about now?

*strikes a pose*

What are Tutuu's good posts @Ruri?

Generally. Their posts have a natural flow to it.

Kinda null-reason.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:22 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:12 pm Kingmaker me. I'll shoot Ruri in the face.

Then I'd probably shoot Wiggin.

Then If Wiggin's corpse has tattoos of little caterpillars on it I'd shoot Rondo in the hip and watch them bleed out.

Why?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:47 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:38 pm i searched for some more stuff said by our host on the discord for clues for his game design preferences

he doesnt consider cult bastard, but difficult to balance

godfather being called bastard grinds his gears, so yall watch out for a godfather please

(and as previously mentioned i think he has put a neutal serial killer in)

sorry but imma ping u all so my conscience can relax, i dont want this biting us in the arse (addendum that he said there's no alignment changing so no cult. but im feeling it that he put a godfather in, i feel it in my bones im telling yall)

@Creature @Michelle @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @NotAnAxehole @sig @MacDougall @falcon45ca @Urist @RondoDimBuckle @EnderWiggin @Master Radishes @Epignosis @DkKoba @Made @Syn @112 @Poison @Ruri @tedxtr @DrWilgy @Scotty @KZA @TonyStarkPrime

Noted.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:29 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:03 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:53 pm I'm literally just here to say Mac that was a dumb move to make

NOBODY ELSE CLAIM

there is obviously some sort of soup role given what Jay said in the rules like seriously. We gonna have a repeat of last game where mafia soups everyone and wins.

It was worth it cuz of the meme tbh.

I mean, he says its for the memes but is there a world where a wolf has a role where he can fake claim inno child with a mod backup? :think: Its ballsy but I still think Mac is inno town till someone else has the same thought as me, this is tinfoil for day 3 or something

Okay so basically you had me as strong town anyway, I was being uber townread by everyone ... but now that the mod confirms it you tinfoil?

And people are townreading this dude?

Hmm.. Interesting. I didn't notice that slot, other than a lot of posts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:38 pm I would say Tutuu is probably mafia here also. Her reads don't feel genuine to me. I can't point at any single post as one that she can't make as mafia. She has a weird energy and tone.

Honestly, I felt differently. Though, I'm admittedly bad at reading tone.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:42 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:57 am [VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Had to copy format from another user. Also, I checked through Mac's ISO. Looks good TBH.

@Ruri you made this vote while talking about other things and didn't even talk about Poison at all either prior, during or afterwards. What caused this vote?

I voted Poison for asking me a question unrelated to this game. Didn't know how to vote yet, though it was in the polls. How to pull up vote counts BTW?

Not w/w with Wilgy. Defends Tutu slightly.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:49 am Lock V:
MacDougall

Those I know, and probably can read:
Michelle
tedxtr
EnderWiggin

Played with before, don't remember:
Syn
112
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Should be on my radar:
tutuu

The rest:
Creature
NotAnAxehole
sig
falcon45ca
Urist
RondoDimBuckle
Master Radishes
Epignosis
DkKoba
Made
Poison
DrWilgy
Scotty
KZA
TonyStarkPrime

- signed, Ruri

Multiple people pointed out how this is a bad list of nothing.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:15 am Why's people voting Ender, actually?

Defends me.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:07 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:20 am Now that i have some time, before going again into hours of impossibility to post, my Poe contains Syn, Sig, tutuu, MR and idk what to do with Made, i remember he pocketed me.
Except Mac my strongest TRs are Ruri and KZA, and town leans 112, Urist, TSP, Epi, Insomnia. Ender is a little better than null.
I have no idea how Dr. Wilgy posted because i didn't read yet the part of the thread where he posted, but i totally sheep Mac in that read.

DkKoba can be wolf, Scotty can be town, but these are not reads i would fight for.

Everyone i didn't mention is in a big null pile

Thoughts on KZA? Ender's wagon?

This is a solving question, that's good.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:19 am Off the top of my head, I noticed Scotty and Rondo's name (or posts) few times. Not sure about their wolf games, but Scotty asking for a story to not vote me seems.. like not something a wolf does? Rondo's effort in tracking vote count is a good look, but I don't remember their posts outside of that.

Clearing someone who was kinda scumread at this point and is now confirmed town is just a good look as well.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:10 am TR:
MacDougall

TL:
Michelle, tedxtr

Unsure:
RondoDimBuckle, Scotty, Poison, EnderWiggin

Sus:
Radishes, tutuu (maybe should go up?), Syn

I wanna point out here that despite the defending of me and the townread of Scotty they're on "Unsure" here.

I don't like that.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:38 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:36 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:10 am TR:
MacDougall

TL:
Michelle, tedxtr

Unsure:
RondoDimBuckle, Scotty, Poison, EnderWiggin

Sus:
Radishes, tutuu (maybe should go up?), Syn

Can you elaborate your reads a bit?

Mac: IC

Michelle: Had good paranoia about Mac before the IC. Seems to be actively sorting players. Her wolf game is more distant from the thread, IIRC.
Ted: Quite comfortable with having them higher than null for now.

Rondo: The way they're contradicting IC!Mac stands out in a way I'd say is villagery.
Scotty: Saying they won't vote me while insisting I answer their question of telling a story seems too surface-level that I don't see a wolf doing.
Poison: Asked me an irrelevant question, no sorting me out from there. Though, the ISO looks like a lot of that.
Ender: I haven't noticed anything sus from them so far, but haven't really read their posts. But the votes on him could mean there's something I'm not seeing?

Radishes: Wagon "something something" means? The readslist posted also didn't look serious. Lots of fluff IMO.
Tutuu: While I want to say villagery, seems like those who know her better say it's not reliable. Mostly null, but in lower tier to help myself remember.
Syn: Their posts seem lacking in content entirely. No idea TBH. But kinda a policy for me, since I never could read him in that one game we were in before.

This is consistent. Although not having any read on me at all is awkward.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:15 am Hiya. Bookmarked at EOD and I must say.. Why did we move off Syn? Oh wait, it was due to IC. Wagon analysis, SMH.

Rand!scummy post but a lot of townies make it too. I just don't like it.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:23 am So, I don't remember KZA and Michelle is poisoned. Mac is alive. Wolves probably avoided Mac. Michelle likely villa until further notice, though still in my TLs independently of poison. Considering IC steered the EOD, I guess Syn being alive might be NAI.. But it's also possible that wolves just followed the IC to save a W!Syn.

Reads are very static still.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:31 am Also, I looked through tutuu's ISO and say I actually have no idea about her now, it's null. Must have misread ISO at first. Could be the site colors.

Lol.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:39 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:33 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:23 am So, I don't remember KZA and Michelle is poisoned. Mac is alive. Wolves probably avoided Mac. Michelle likely villa until further notice, though still in my TLs independently of poison. Considering IC steered the EOD, I guess Syn being alive might be NAI.. But it's also possible that wolves just followed the IC to save a W!Syn.

Honestly yeah I don't see town!poisoner choosing Michelle over other scummy people tbh. That kinda makes me think Michelle is town. I think Mac not dying is normal here, and in a way helpful for us as well. Idk why but i have this weird feeling that syn is probably not a wolf, he didn't care enough to be a wolf. But I need to read the thread and ISO him.

Why not Michelle? Michelle did push Mac before the IC reveal IIRC.
Have you played with Syn as both alignments before? How can you be sure?

Solving questions but those can be scummy when used to try and invalidate town's reads.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:39 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:33 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:23 am So, I don't remember KZA and Michelle is poisoned. Mac is alive. Wolves probably avoided Mac. Michelle likely villa until further notice, though still in my TLs independently of poison. Considering IC steered the EOD, I guess Syn being alive might be NAI.. But it's also possible that wolves just followed the IC to save a W!Syn.

Honestly yeah I don't see town!poisoner choosing Michelle over other scummy people tbh. That kinda makes me think Michelle is town. I think Mac not dying is normal here, and in a way helpful for us as well. Idk why but i have this weird feeling that syn is probably not a wolf, he didn't care enough to be a wolf. But I need to read the thread and ISO him.

Why not Michelle? Michelle did push Mac before the IC reveal IIRC.
Have you played with Syn as both alignments before? How can you be sure?

Defends Tutu.

Didn't meant to post that this early.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:31 am Hmmm okay. Why's Syn town to you, @tutuu?

This was another post that looked kinda good.

There's some solving questions in Ruri's ISO. Some good content. Some stuff I dislike.

But honestly if I had to pick a lean I'd actually push towards town on this content.

Poisoned:
Michelle

Confirmed Town:
MacDougall
Scotty

Town:
tutuu - ISO is just good.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Reads progression feels like his towngame

Town-ish:
Ruri - Some solving questions, some meh content, above null towards town but I'm not super confident in this sorting.

The rest Previous feelings from the slanker:
Towny:
RondoDimBuckle - I don't see this scatteredness coming from scum!Rondo just yet, I don't know if he's that comfortable in forum mafia to be able to do that in his first scum rand.
Urist - Several reads had progression > I don't like his takes but I think he's town despite it
Epignosis - I think the dayvig thing is just... town. I don't see how scum!Epi with a silent dayvig doesn't just wipe out the IC.

Paired - Maybe towny:
sig - Only up here because of TSP
TonyStarkPrime - Only up here because of Sig

Was a townread but feeling worse:
Made - Was townier D1 but day 2 has not... really progressed. I don't even remember exactly what they posted that made me think they were town
Master Radishes - Their D2 has seemed somewhat opportunistic. Will check ISO later to see if I'm right on this.

Have barely read:
falcon45ca - I don't remember a post they have tbh
Poison - They've posted a bunch but I don't remember having a read on them tbh

Lightly scummy:
DkKoba - I don't like their D2 ATE.
DrWilgy - I don't remember liking them ever but nothing specific

Heavily scummy:
Syn - More diplomatic than I expect from town!Syn
112 - ATE'd to get out of a wagon and then slanked. That's just a bad look.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:49 am @Scotty ur a confirmed town now

…oh?

Desperado shot you and flipped which confs you town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:36 amOh goddamit ted

Yup.

It'd have been better to shoot me, then I would be allowed to lightly slank again lmao.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:47 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:39 am I hate to do this but I’m 24 pages behind and I see just on this page that Poison has some sort of cop check?

Can someone succinctly summarize the claims out in the open so far?

I promise to look back as I can

not cop checked

she was role blocked by michelle afaik

Blocked by Koba.

Why is Wilgy town again?

This is yeetable tbh.

Also tired now, again.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

I need to check over 112 to see if my thoughts there stick.

Feel free to ping me with questions soon or overnight. Will answer as best can.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:14 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:12 am

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:09 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:55 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:21 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:20 am Thats true, scotty usually comes out the gate with a read or two

How many games have you played with him?

More than you B)

Does it really matter though? I have my preconceived perceptions of a person and you have yours, either they match or they dont

Also false.

Here ya go- I think you’re both leantown

Mac and Scotty are temmies.

Meh opening read.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:10 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:55 am Okay, nevermind. Made looks good for now.

Literally no one has ever said this.

This is a new statement and I dislike it.

Meh. I don't like this either but it's NAI.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:28 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:26 am

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:23 am @112 @Master Radishes @falcon45ca

odds all of us are town? low I think

Hold on, I shall consult my Magic 8 Ball..."As I see it, yes". WTF?

Interesting. Falcon you scum?

Wolfy interesting.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:30 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:28 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:26 am

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:23 am @112 @Master Radishes @falcon45ca

odds all of us are town? low I think

Hold on, I shall consult my Magic 8 Ball..."As I see it, yes". WTF?

Interesting. Falcon you scum?

Hold on, I shall once again consult my Magic 8 Ball..."My reply is no."

Kk.

Then there's a wolf in 112 or MR yes?

The question itself makes me think that KZA isn't the one.

Not paired with BOTH 112 and MR. Maybe one of them at most.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:33 am Sig hasn't shown up yet?

Hmmm...

@sig
@sig
@sig

Where ya at buddy?

I wanna say not paired with Sig too.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:54 am NotanAxehole, Urist, EnderWiggin

Someone read these 3 for me and advise.

Rule of 3 would imply that Urist was scum from my pov if Wilgy is, but idk if that makes sense.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:32 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:18 pm [VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

thinking thots

This is low-key hot

Doesn't vote me tho.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:40 am Poison seems to have a hate boner for Urist and Axe. Agrees Syn is sus. Urist and Axe love Syn and wanna marry him.

Urist
Axe
Syn
Poison

There is a dynamic here that can be picked apart. I quite like Urist more than the rest and Syn is obviously an actual wolf read.

I feel like Poison/Axe is a t/w dynamic that swings in the middle somewhat.

Explain the Sun wolf read to a hungover old man.

Meh. Syn equity maybe.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:37 am Syn/Tutuu

Or

Urist/Ender?

Does Rondo fit into either of these?

I'm not able to see the lines like I used to.

This has no progression to it and is just plopped out there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:44 am I moved to Syn.

I agree with Mac, that 2 page Iso is fluff and NAI interaction with KZA and Ender

A Syn blasting would provide juice on Ender and Tutuu

Maybe not with Syn.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:49 am Interesting that in a Syn/Scotty lead, Urist and Scotty hopped on the Spinning Anime girl.

Wolfy interesting

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:08 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:39 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:38 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:33 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:07 pm

what about now?

*strikes a pose*

What are Tutuu's good posts @Ruri?

Oh yeah. It was this. I'm not sure why but the this one had me pinged.

This is obvious mafia.

Cool. Why?

NAA had them sussed. Not that that's strong evidence but worth noting.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:12 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:50 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:47 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:40 pm @NotAnAxehole
@Master Radishes
@RondoDimBuckle
@tedxtr
@EnderWiggin

Why is Scotty a better choice today than, say, Syn?

I would vig Epi for this question being worded in this way, rather than the opposite direction. Bad question.

I agree with this gif.

Reading Epi as town (unfortunately).

Unfortunately feels odd here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:34 am Yo 3 different counter wagons saved Syn throughout last Cycle and we are yeeting Made?

What happened?

If Syn is green this is probably just misyeet bait.

Why is Wilgy town again?

This is yeetable tbh.

sorry if ur town ender, i dont mean to antagonize u, just playin the game the best way i can

@MacDougall pls use ur influence to get ppl to scumread ender

I mean, the annoying part is you're just wrong but now I'm convinced you're town so I can't even push back to make myself feel better.

Also @MacDougall you should know this is town me, you've actually caught me as scum already once.

I'm leery about Rondo being unwilling to town-back me up too but maybe that's just my desire to not be put anywhere near the POE right now.

Also the other annoying part is you're not trying to solve my slot at this point, you're so convinced that there's nothing you're trying to find about me.

But I've been in confbias too so I guess I can't complain.

Meh. I personally don't like that but also there's no one way to play mafia so meh.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:26 am My preference is to lynch someone that doesn’t have a post count of 6000 but that’s because I just don’t want to have to comb through that iso. Which I guess is the point of spam posting as wolf.

I’m looking more at someone more palatable like Wilgy or Master Radishes, tbh

Join me on Wilgy.

See my ISO and marvel at how it's not an amazing scumcase but join me anyway.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:32 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:16 am
I mean, the annoying part is you're just wrong but now I'm convinced you're town so I can't even push back to make myself feel better.

Also @MacDougall you should know this is town me, you've actually caught me as scum already once.

I'm leery about Rondo being unwilling to town-back me up too but maybe that's just my desire to not be put anywhere near the POE right now.

Did you not see the "I will ISO you tomorrow" post

Meh.