The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:34 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:55 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:10 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:08 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:05 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:02 pm its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3
That's wolfy tbh
Yes that’s kind off what I’m getting at. There post flip reaction is really odd.

Also I hate when players start to claim kind off without solid info and no pressure. I’ve done that so often as mafia so always a bit pinged by it
no you arent <3 you're just mafia
Sure and the reasoning is?

Honestly originally thought you scum slipped, but that would require the flip to be a Miller which is a lot of ifs.

Still weird how quickly you OMGUS
This is the weirdest post I've seen yet.

Miller is Bastard.

This isn't a Bastard game.

I can understand Rondo making that mistake as he's new to Forum rules and Bastard stuff but I woulda thought Sig knows that.
I didn't really consider Miller to be a bastard role? Not arguing that it couldn't be one just that I'd not think of it as one.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:30 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:27 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:26 pm What are people's takes on Ender? Some people seem to know them and I think I saw one or two people give them a townread but they are a blank void for me.
i have the same read on at least half of the playerlist
I mean...yeah. Me too. I zeroed in on Ender because I was looking at the Dya wagon.
Ender has been alot less inspiring this game I guess I’d say? He seems to be playing a differently than his previous civ games and more on the quiet side. Which I believe was the read I had on him last game and he was mafia. I’ll go back and recheck pending that check is what my read will be.
Wait what?

I can link you multiple games I wolfed recently where I was a top poster. And in my only wolf game on Syndicate (As far as I can remember?) (JOATED) I also post-capped D1.

I absolutely don't have a volume-tell lmao.
Yea nevermind, I was thinking of a different game we played together and you turned out to be civ. Couldn't remember your alignment which is why i needed to check.

I'd say it was less post volume and more post types, like I'm getting the same feel that I did in our other game. The good news is you were civ in those games so yay have a mild civ read.

You know what? This is kinda believable as a pivot. And makes sense for the original read. I like this content.

I also like it because it townreads me, but that's different.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:39 am [VOTE: Michelle ] aubergine

I need more hands to facepalm with.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:51 am @Syn, @RondoDimBuckle, @EnderWiggin

Please tell me about each other.

Syn is Syn. I have them POE but could be swayed.

Rondo is probably town.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:56 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:54 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:26 am My preference is to lynch someone that doesn’t have a post count of 6000 but that’s because I just don’t want to have to comb through that iso. Which I guess is the point of spam posting as wolf.

I’m looking more at someone more palatable like Wilgy or Master Radishes, tbh
Join me on Wilgy.

See my ISO and marvel at how it's not an amazing scumcase but join me anyway.
give me your read on Dkkoba, 112 and Nanook pls

Nanook is town.

The other two are POE.

112 is maybe my biggest Sus but I've swapped off them because I want to re-ISO them and too tired rn.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:00 am
Made wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:11 am ooo, I have votes! hi friends!
made dropped this 2 hours ago and then just dipped without a trace

i think a townie would be more curious and post at least something when seeing that they're the top wagon

I'm okay with this read.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:04 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:00 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:51 am @Syn, @RondoDimBuckle, @EnderWiggin

Please tell me about each other.
Syn is Syn. I have them POE but could be swayed.

Rondo is probably town.
What does Syn is Syn mean? Is this saying that he's being normal per meta or is this a neutral fluff statement?

I mean they are playing inside their basic range. This is scum or town. When I ISO them I might find more but that's all I got rn.

I self-claim mafia all the time as a town role, Scotty.

I don't think reading into Tutu's self-claims is that relevant tbh.

Also at work and tired as shit (My attempts at sleep were broken up into bite chunk sizes) so I'll talk but don't ask me to ISO anything just yet.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:17 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:16 pm I self-claim mafia all the time as a town role, Scotty.

I don't think reading into Tutu's self-claims is that relevant tbh.
You don’t have to eat the food

But I hungry

Hi hungry.

You wanna talk gamestate with me?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:21 pm So like..:I guess starting by isoing those with votes will be helpful since I figure we ain’t gonna start making a new case right now

It's going to be more about creating a basis. If you can't do anything today you can't. But if you build a buildingblock of reads to work off of then you can still be relevant/important to town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:22 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:16 pm I self-claim mafia all the time as a town role, Scotty.

I don't think reading into Tutu's self-claims is that relevant tbh.
You do what? What's the angle in that? You figure tutuu's doing the same thing I gather

It's fun?

Also Falcon, I literally did it in front of you in three different games. Starting with Bird Mafia.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:07 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:03 am Did Made vote Syn before or after the wagon appeared on them?
i looked but i think its impossible to tell
before, way before... I already said that's why I started the made wagon.

@DrWilgy
Hmm... Would Made actively hunt for this early or would he wait for the wagon to form if he thought Syn was easy prey?

Ok. Ty.

I'm cool with either Syn or Made, but if Made flips green I'm tunneling Syn till one of us are dead.

Pretty sure scum team can include Syn, Wiggin, and Rondo at this point. Earlier I couldn't tell if Syn's lackluster vote on Wiggin was a team interaction or not, but I'm starting to think it is.

Made being a vote on Syn is the only sadness here.
Any paticular reason you think the top poster in the game is scum?

Why is being the top poster relevant when it comes to being scum?

It's not impossible for wolf Rondo to do that.

But I see no point for him to put the effort into finding me town.

I'm just putting Rondo in my town section

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:24 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:21 am I'm just putting Rondo in my town section
could I get a position on Michelle before they flip?

Why? I am already behind solving the game and wasting time on a slot that will self-resolve is wasted energy.

I'm gonna put aside some time to ISO the DKKoba/Made situation and see where my vote should go there

Currently vanity wagoning like a boss lmao.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:46 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:25 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:24 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:21 am I'm just putting Rondo in my town section
could I get a position on Michelle before they flip?
Why? I am already behind solving the game and wasting time on a slot that will self-resolve is wasted energy.
Look I get it, but then I can catch you out for when you say they are town and they are scum.

Lmao. If I was scum that is not what you'd catch me for anyway.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I'm going to pull a Seanzie and tie up wagons for tension.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.

The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:00 am As I've read Ender's posts sporadically throughout the game I feel they're /fine/ but he feels very...detached? from the collective. Like he's not truly slanking but I don't feel like his contributions have added much to the direction of the thread, and he doesn't seem bothered by that. (I realise the same criticism can be leveled at me but I *am* bothered by it.)

I haven't opened up his iso and maybe I should. I'd probably end up nitpicking though, and my concern is more on a macro level anyway.

Also when I looked at Dya's wagon earlier I felt there were very few options for an opportunistic scum and it was basically him or Michelle (putting aside certain slots for raisins) and Michelle has been poisoned and so far D2 seems sharp in the way I expect from her.

I mean, yeah, I've been feeling exhausted and haven't engaged as much as I normally did.

I also just like, napped for a few hours.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:23 am i have no hope for this town to even bother sheeping me after i die becauae a vast majority of you have clearly only read ~5% of the game and it shows

Why're you voting a vanity wagon when you're highest votes?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 am @falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?

Wanna know this too.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:35 am this entire bullshit gamestate makes me angry

I've consigned myself to being lazy tunnelled for now so same.

Except I'm too tired to be angry.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:36 am I want to go on record as saying all town in this game you suck

Dw I know.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:39 am right now the major hosebeast ass gross demon ass gross disgusting ass grossbeast is Radishes

Ngl I kinda agree.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:47 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:45 am Anyway, i have an ability that can learn if a player got info from another player.

Master Radishes visited tutuu last night and learned something
Correct.

Okay nevermind I'm wrong.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:57 am I would contend that 3 people claiming to have targeted tutuu last night gives tutuu a lot of town equity, especially if any of urist/radish/poison are mafia

Got a moderate belief that those are town with exception of Radishes. And his action might just make him town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:04 am Or I could be leading thing astray by assuming that gives tutuu town equity. My initial feeling is that if MR flips wolf tutuu is def town

Yes. This is correct 100%.

Tbh even if Radishes flips town, moderate chance Tutu is town.

Actually wait Poison was rbed

@MacDougall Hope things go well for you.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:39 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.
I will kill you too eventually.

Sure.

I get to laugh at you for townreading the person in the game who knows me best and then ignoring his giant-ass post on why I'm currently more likely to be rand!town rn.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:46 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:39 am right now the major hosebeast ass gross demon ass gross disgusting ass grossbeast is Radishes
Ngl I kinda agree.
Shut up wolf.

Well, first, I suggest you start calling around for quotes to deconstruct your tunnel.

Second, you realise how this specific take on engaging with people you think is scummy is not only demoralizing for wrongly tunnelled town but just make me less and less inclined to actually try and solve?

If you said "I think you're still wolfy for this and this." or tried to debate my points or just ignored my reads, w/e. But every time I try to participate when you're around you just sit there saying "DIE WOLF" or some vaguely reminiscent statement with no content.

There's part of me that wants to ignore all my read on you so far every time you do it because I just don't want to be part of thread where you're town and doing that.

@MacDougall Confirmed Town Scotty suggests Radishes has an info role and visited Tutu last night via night action.

Wanna pick someone else to try and wagon because tbh I'm not going after that.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:59 am
Poison wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:55 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME and you.
Pretty rude thing to tag me for
nanook tell me who you scum reading. top 3 scums atm, and what do you think about koba/Michelle?
Who are the three scummiest players in the game? Think about it. Epi, epi, and epi. Cause he spits hot fire.

I think Koba is slightly >rand town but its not a confident read

Michelle im not bothering with reading until seeing if they die from poison today or not.

What do you think of a scumcore of Wilgy/112.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:00 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:39 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.
I will kill you too eventually.
I'd be down for a Wiggin yeet if we are interested.

Wiggin is this color in my head
Say it with words please, what read do you have for Ender?

He saw that Tutu scumread me and thought it was a good look to do the same.

Also I was pushing him.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:05 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:01 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:00 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:39 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.
I will kill you too eventually.
I'd be down for a Wiggin yeet if we are interested.

Wiggin is this color in my head
Say it with words please, what read do you have for Ender?
He saw that Tutu scumread me and thought it was a good look to do the same.

Also I was pushing him.
Yo, I've been down to yeet you all game. Don't spread fake news. As if I, DrWilgy, would toss a No U like that. Try me.

I'd ISO you to find out but I checked my fucks bag and ran out so I can't pay the ISO toll.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.
I mean fine but from glancing at the conclusion he doesn't seem entirely sold on it, like not to the point of shielding you or anything.

That's because anything he can townread me for he knows I could fake.

Made and Wilgy aren't partners.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:11 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:09 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:52 am Does anyone want to start a third wagon on Ender with me? I know Rondo did a bigass post but I didn't read any of it.
The bigass post was saying I was more town than scum rn. But go off king.
I mean fine but from glancing at the conclusion he doesn't seem entirely sold on it, like not to the point of shielding you or anything.
That's because anything he can townread me for he knows I could fake.
So then why should I trust his read on you

Because he knows me better than you?

But maybe I'm pocketing him and you should use your own reads.

Look, honestly, I don't even care at this point.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:12 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:11 am Made and Wilgy aren't partners.
But you and Rondo are?

Yeah.

We married like five years ago.

Spoiler: show

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:13 am That said Ender,

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:54 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:46 am Shut up wolf.
Well, first, I suggest you start calling around for quotes to deconstruct your tunnel.

Second, you realise how this specific take on engaging with people you think is scummy is not only demoralizing for wrongly tunnelled town but just make me less and less inclined to actually try and solve?

If you said "I think you're still wolfy for this and this." or tried to debate my points or just ignored my reads, w/e. But every time I try to participate when you're around you just sit there saying "DIE WOLF" or some vaguely reminiscent statement with no content.

There's part of me that wants to ignore all my read on you so far every time you do it because I just don't want to be part of thread where you're town and doing that.
This is fair. I don't know that it changes my read on you but on the off chance I'm wrong I think it's fair to let you have some space to breathe.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Nah. You're fine. You've pushed but the only one that post is aimed at is Tutu.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 am @falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?
Fucked if I know.

I'm fine with lynching DK, MR, Ender right now

Thoughts on Dr Wilgy or 112?

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MR was town this game.

That would be two games in a row I've thought he's scum when he's town.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 am Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MR was town this game.

That would be two games in a row I've thought he's scum when he's town.
I am...not unfamiliar with being misread.

When did we play together? Sorry for forgetting.

We didn't. I was in Spec in Bonk mafia, trying to solve the game unspoiled.

I had you as scum for like, all the way until end-d2.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:18 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 am Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MR was town this game.

That would be two games in a row I've thought he's scum when he's town.
Are the reasons you thought he was scum last time lining up with this game?

Well, I don't have specific reads for MR so that would mean my general scum-hunting found him wanting.

But I don't remember specific reasons.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:18 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 am @falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?
Fucked if I know.

I'm fine with lynching DK, MR, Ender right now
hey, how often do scum bring you to limlo if you manage to dodge being mislimmed?

Very often.

I can read anyone eventually when I put my mind to it.

But I also get things wrong so eh.

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