The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:00 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:53 pm I'm drunk. AMA.
what's ur favorite punctuation marker
The period.
why

It produces men.

I'm going to vote JJJ tomorrow. I invite others to do likewise.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:29 pm @Epignosis, why did you vote for Marmot?

No reason. Please stop mentioning me.

You make up your mind on that one.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:15 pm My problem with JJJ is threefold:

1) He jumped on LC for no reason Day 1 even after I said I thought LC was good.

2) He voted for a quiet player who turned out to be good.

3) He himself is now cool with a quiet thread.
Why'd you vote for me?

I agreed with the other guy who voted for you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:15 pm My problem with JJJ is threefold:

1) He jumped on LC for no reason Day 1 even after I said I thought LC was good.

2) He voted for a quiet player who turned out to be good.

3) He himself is now cool with a quiet thread.
Why'd you vote for me?
I agreed with the other guy who voted for you.
Were you caught up? What did you agree with?

I voted me so as not to miss the lynch poll, having no knowledge of what was happening here.

I didn't have a reason for voting you. I just did it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 9:42 pm No reason.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:57 pm No reason is different than agreeing with the other guy.

I don't agree.

I suspect Scotty.

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 3:58 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:51 am
sig wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:42 am Ddl and scotty are both looking good right now imo.
You’re looking good to me too, my man.

Which means you’re probably mafia
It would be just my luck to get lynched for looking to townie.

I'm flying back to Philly today, so I'll have much more activity starting tomorrow when I can return to my shit baggy ways and do nothing for three months.

Scotty would be the sort to kill sig to prevent him from being lynched.

You know, because it's funny.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Of course, Marmot has that same sense of humor.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 9:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 9:09 pm I suspect Scotty.

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 3:58 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:51 am
sig wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:42 am Ddl and scotty are both looking good right now imo.
You’re looking good to me too, my man.

Which means you’re probably mafia
It would be just my luck to get lynched for looking to townie.

I'm flying back to Philly today, so I'll have much more activity starting tomorrow when I can return to my shit baggy ways and do nothing for three months.
Scotty would be the sort to kill sig to prevent him from being lynched.

You know, because it's funny.
This is slander

You mean "libel."

Trying to do what?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:31 pm Epi what happened to voting for Jay?

Should I be voting for Jay?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:30 pm Trying to do what?
Like, do you actually suspect me or are you just throwing golf balls out your window?

Who the hell throws golf balls out of a window?

I have two votes now:

Marmot and Scotty.

I'm tracking this shit in case I do end up lynched and we won't need some colorful report to tell you who voted or when.

Three hours have passed, and nary a word from the Jagged one.

The mafia team has (presumably):

Killed Dyslexicon
Silenced Scotty
Killed sig
Silenced JJJ

When your team has a mafia silencer, at what point is it optimal to silence one of your own?

Knowing that silenced persons are almost never lynched here, what do you do?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:25 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:31 pm Epi what happened to voting for Jay?
Should I be voting for Jay?
Yeah you should be.

For what reason?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:29 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:25 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:31 pm Epi what happened to voting for Jay?
Should I be voting for Jay?
Yeah you should be.
For what reason?
Because you said you would and to do otherwise makes you a big phony.

Let me check to see if I give a fuck about that.

Nope.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:32 am
A tough guy I see. Big tough Epi and his big muscles.

I've got one big muscle. That's about it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:51 am Why are you both assuming JJJ is silenced? He hasn’t voted yet.

What does that have to do with anything?

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

I have no votes on me now.

This Marmot guy.

There's that sense of humor I was talking about.

Epignosis
3
23%

Voters: wolbre04, Jackofhearts2005, Dragon D. Luffy

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:58 am Good morning - Epi why the vote for Kyle?

No reason.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:32 am
A tough guy I see. Big tough Epi and his big muscles.
I've got one big muscle. That's about it.
Right forearm, I imagine.

Epignosis
4
31%

Voters: Marmot, wolbre04, Jackofhearts2005, Dragon D. Luffy

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:02 pm I still don't really feel like the civilians are losing this game right now. I mean, technically by the numbers that can be claimed. Sure. However, both of the lynches, while errant, were on players who would have been very difficult to remove from any POE pool. If you're going to be wrong, that's the kind of wrong you need to be. We have to climb out of a numbers hole, but things could be much worse. Civilians win after Day 1+2 mislynches all the time.

How do they do when it's 1+2+3?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:28 pm If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:52 pm Ok so INH has 8 of 16 posts that are about Twin Peaks. He then sheeps Epi's vote for me and votes lap in the Hot Potato. Then he doesn't vote at all in the Avito lynch. This is not a good look but I need to think through whether the Genius is interfering with his play this game.

People keep saying this, but it was I who told INH I would vote wherever he did. That I ended up voting first is neither here nor there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:18 pm Epignosis, why is INH a civilian?
I'd rather not say, but I think I'm improving at figuring out INH whereas before I was atrocious at it. I don't want to reveal my reasoning and gum up the works, if you can dig.
This would be a good time to expand on this if your perspective hasn't changed.

I am much less confident than I was previously. If people want to vote for INH, I have no objection at this stage.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:25 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:19 pm JJJ, sorry if I've overlooked or forgotten but what is the reason for your Epi read? Is it his votes and lack of explanation?
He's playing a clown game.

His suspicion of me in Night 1 looked like it could have been formed in a "Epignosis Attacks JJJ" shaped cookie cutter, and he employed exaggerated language I don't associate with him, like this:

This guy is trying to move shit on to me, someone he HAS to know can't be on all the time because of work, and make a kill elsewhere. This is trash.

And some more caps lock

His vote for Marmot on Day 2 was a waste, and it recalls lapluie's own vote for him on Day 1 which he similarly disparaged. If it'd have been placed very late when the Avito wagon was already in control it'd be a different issue, but there was over an hour left and the wagons were close between Avito and nova. Weak.

Today I have very little idea what his reads are or where he's headed. He assumed I was silenced after three hours of quiet for some reason. His posts seem to be pouring at random from some unseen source.
Ok I get this, plus your additional reason. Hopefully he will be on after school to address these issues. If he's bad though I don't understand why he would take you on since you're not easily proven a baddie.

I'm not addressing anything.

Besides, Pennywise is playing the clown game, not me.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:42 pm Ok so

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

until he at least explains what's up with that random-ass Kyle vote.

You voting me for voting Kyle makes your vote the product of random-assness.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:45 pm I could also see a vote for Epi if he doesn't satisfactorily address the issues Jay has brought up and explain his Kyle vote.

Oops. Shit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:28 pm If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.
My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.
If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

I really didn't care either way.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pm No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".
I don't care what you buy. I seem to be the most present force in the thread right now, and that means I have the responsibility of facilitating a productive day phase to the best of my ability. juliets had been made well-aware of the suspicions against her, and I wanted her to focus on her own hunting instead of responding continually to that stuff.

Talk to me about Epignosis.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:08 pmAbout your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.
Avito gave me no reason in his brief appearance here to believe that he was interested in playing the way someone else told him to play. Do you think he was likely to be responsive to that ultimatum?
Not entirely responsive. Likely to react to it but not positively. Start contributing to prove me wrong and build a case against me, if he believed I was bad.

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?

One day someone will figure me out, and then I'll have to do things differently.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 3:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:18 pm Epignosis, why is INH a civilian?
I'd rather not say, but I think I'm improving at figuring out INH whereas before I was atrocious at it. I don't want to reveal my reasoning and gum up the works, if you can dig.
This would be a good time to expand on this if your perspective hasn't changed.
I am much less confident than I was previously. If people want to vote for INH, I have no objection at this stage.
What inspired the previous confidence?

Again, I'd rather not say.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:28 pm If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.
My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.
If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.
I really didn't care either way.
Epi I just don't understand your attitude. You'd have us believe you voted for Kyle for no reason, you won't address Jay's points, and now you say you don't really care. Do you not like this game? It feels like you are daring us to lynch you.

Also, happy Teachers Appreciation Day.

First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:54 pm If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.

I tend to keep JJJ alive to toy with him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:54 pm If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.
I tend to keep JJJ alive to toy with him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:57 pm Night kill.
He doesn't night kill me. It's his preference. He's stated it many times, but here's an example from the Lounge:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:29 pm I would agree that people don't fit cleanly into any single "position" (not even the examples I provided). Everything is muddy. I wouldn't know how to label myself on that team. The dynamic also has to adapt as a town team shrinks, because people gon' die -- that relates to Epi's thought. I think the core of my thought is that civilian teams tend to be best served when there are multiple different approaches happening together that can be integrated into a full team effort.
I know how to label you.

One scary motherfucker.

But keep him around for fun.

Holy shit, same smiley and everything. I am predictable.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:00 pm First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.
These are all things I've considered. I'm also not sure you would kill a mislynch sandwich like sig. However, in the absence of any visible effort that does promote winning, I struggle to give you the benefit of the doubt.

No visible effort? That stings.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:00 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 5:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:28 pm If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.
My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.
If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.
I really didn't care either way.
Epi I just don't understand your attitude. You'd have us believe you voted for Kyle for no reason, you won't address Jay's points, and now you say you don't really care. Do you not like this game? It feels like you are daring us to lynch you.

Also, happy Teachers Appreciation Day.
First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.
Yeah Epi if you're bad I sure as shit don't understand your motivation and as Jay pointed out I don't see you killing sig (and I think you would be a big enough voice in BTS that the kill would be someone you agreed with). I'm not inclined to vote for you today I don't think.

It's true that I would not kill sig, but not because of any strategic reason. The poor bastard hardly ever gets to play long.

I am Lawful Evil, after all.

If you'll excuse me, I have to see a man about a horse.

Not a literal horse, because fuck horses.

I'll be back afterwards.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?

On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?
You haven't hunted for a mafioso today.

That applies to plenty of people far less skilled than I. That isn't the basis for my lynch.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:10 pm So we're lynching Epi then?
On what basis? I'm weird? I didn't explain my Kyle vote (even though I did)? I kissed a girl (and liked it)?
You haven't hunted for a mafioso today.
That applies to plenty of people far less skilled than I. That isn't the basis for my lynch.
That's the problem. You're not doing the things that win games. You usually do. Other people don't always bother.

What are the things that I should be doing?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm Epignosis isn't hunting because he doesn't want us picking at his corpse to find clues about his teammates.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm What are the things that I should be doing?
You don't need me to tell you that. You're a big boy.

I've done what I intended to do, more or less.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm What are the things that I should be doing?
You don't need me to tell you that. You're a big boy.
I've done what I intended to do, more or less.
Let me know what you've learned when you're ready.

You don't understand.

I haven't learned anything.

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