The Syndicate

Lorab is a liar.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:05 pm I'm choosing not to acknowledge Rico's posts until he uses his words.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:21 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:10 pm

Your choice, dude.

Lynch her.

Yeah, I know what I did. Yes I do.

Question:

If TonyStarkPrime got a bad role, how am I going to get people to lynch him if people want to baby him because they think I think he's weak?

I don't even know what to do there. He's not a little kid.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:43 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:36 pm Hey, is there anyone here who can summarize Eloh's meta?

Enigmatic.

Sometimes autocorrect is right.

LOL, it was really what I meant to post. Not an autocorrect of your name.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:13 pm Lorab is a liar.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:05 pm I'm choosing not to acknowledge Rico's posts until he uses his words.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:21 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:10 pm

Your choice, dude.

Lynch her.

LOL.

And not lying. Just poor self control. And I really meant his opinions, rather than his posts. I apologize for not using more precise language. *eyeroll*

Jokes are good things Lorab. I promise.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:42 pm Question:

If TonyStarkPrime got a bad role, how am I going to get people to lynch him if people want to baby him because they think I think he's weak?

I don't even know what to do there. He's not a little kid.

If you want people to lynch me, try to get them to lynch me. I don't understand your qualm. If you are scared that if you lynch me and I flip town it will look bad for you, then yeah. It will. But no different than if I'm someone else.

I don't care how I will look.

But that isn't the issue.

I care that people refuse to lynch someone because of silly perceptions or assumptions of perceptions. Notice the first word in my post above. "If." This is not a campaign against you. It's questioning the idea that you should be safe from lynches because you need to be coddled.

TonyStarkPrime voted last minute on somebody who wasn't getting lynched.

He is Marcus Vanston.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:00 pm TonyStarkPrime voted last minute on somebody who wasn't getting lynched.

He is Marcus Vanston.

I get that marcus has a double vote, but I'm gonna need more explanation as to why Prime would do this with that role

Story time. Gather around on the carpet, boys and girls.

Once upon a time, I was Gus Fring in Breaking Bad Mafia.

I was mafia, and my vote was worth three. I had a hell of a time hiding that big vote each lynch phase. I did though.

TonyStarkPrime matches the strategy: Hold off until late in the Day phase and cast an off vote.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:22 pm
@Epi new stuff
I don't get it. Why would voting last minute suggest that to you? I knew I wasn't voting for one of the leading three and I had said that earlier my vote would be inconsequential even if I was Marcus. Since I was voting for the lead. I'd think the people who didn't vote are more likely to be Marcus.

I would respond by putting a vote on someone early today, but I don't know if that would change your mind.

If you are a civilian and I am wrong, I don't want you to waste your vote.

However, I saw your off-the-radar-last-minute vote as a convenient way to not decide anything.

JackofHearts2005 voted but hasn't posted yet.

I wanted to say the below (well, not exactly the below), but Ricochet beat me to it.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:36 am P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y That's me!

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:15 pm
Epignosis
insertnamehere
Long Con
speedchuck
sprityo
timmer

These men all knew Pop-pyyyy
One is clearly bad-dieeee
'Cause they won't let me be freeee
And keep stalking me

All I can say in my own defense is that I would never bring back this foolishness (not to mention that it is a clearer avenue for communication than what you had been doing).

I am not about to let this spiral into bullshit about who made what lie detector statement. That's so 2014.

I agree with TonyStarkPrime's assessment of the votes, in that a number of people could have hidden their vote. I still think his move at the very end of the Day was the sketchiest though.

Here's something I found while looking to see if TonyStarkPrime had mentioned DFaraday early enough in advance to have been considering a vote for him (he did express a vague but negative opinion of DF at 6:38pm EST) and I want to know more about this:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Call me crazy, but I think I want to vote for Jack.

Jack had no votes either, but TonyStarkPrime opted to cast his vote for DFaraday instead. What prompted you to express a desire to vote for Jack but then vote for DFaraday?

Made (speedchuck) (Neverwhere) (insertnamehere) (Boomslang)

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Vote Made

Unhelpful questions, dodging my questions, dodgy play in general. Not a lot of content, IMO. Worth a vote more than the current lynch targets, at any rate. Don't like it? Suggest your own targets and get something done. Peace.

linki: hahaha don't vote Jack pls

The current lynch targets at the time speedchuck posted this:

speedchuck (Elohcin)
Golden (DrWilgy)
sprityo (JackofHearts2005)
Dom (Golden)
Made (speedchuck)
DrWilgy (DFaraday)

We can infer speedchuck was not satisfied with the lynch options who had votes. Obviously, speedchuck would not be in favor of his own lynch. That leaves Golden, sprityo, Dom, and DrWilgy. We can add Jack to the list based on his postscript.

That's a lot of names to oppose lynching Day 1.

To compare:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:26 pm A READING RAINBOW

speedchuck
Made Lynched Day 1 - Steve Carlsberg
Elohcin
Ricochet
Jackofhearts2005
Neverwhere
Dr Wilgy
Epignosis
DFaraday
TonyStarkPrime
insertnamehere
Boomslang
Lorab
Dom
nutella
Long Con
Golden
sprityo

timmer

A lot of people in here that I just threw into place based on gut. Super subject to change.

I realize this was after the lynch, but while Jack and DrWilgy received a good opinion, all of a sudden all three of Golden, sprityo, and Dom plummeted into what I can only assume is "would lynch" territory.

So speedchuck, what happened to bring you from dissatisfaction with a Golden, sprityo, or Dom lynch to making them high-priority suspects? Considering that Jack voted sprityo and DrWilgy voted Golden, why did Jack and DrWilgy remain in your good graces?

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:39 pm and just probed Eloh.

Now wait a damn minute.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm I thought the poll ended friday?

It's a speed game...

It's this stuff from you I don't buy.

I seriously doubt you think I am bad.
If I had BTSC, I would have definitely already asked them when the phase ended.

This I don't buy.

I have hosted so many games and been bad many times, and lately, BTSC is quiet. People go for days without talking.

I find it hard to believe that you would ask your teammates when the phase ended rather than take two seconds to scroll upward and look at the poll deadline.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:17 pm I don't actually think Dom is bad. I could be totally wrong in my read of him, but I'm not currently reading him as bad. Golden, I think you're tunneling on him, which is part of why I think you're not bad. You tunnel less when you're bad.

Meh, I'm not particularly tunnelled on Dom. That's why I want LC to go, I feel far more convinced about him than Dom. Dom's recent exchanges have me feeling more town about him than I did before, and he is beginning to cast his net wider. Dom, Wilgy and Rico are all exceptionally tunnelled on me, none of them have ever exhibited a hint of doubt that I'm bad.

I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:27 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm I thought the poll ended friday?

It's a speed game...

It's this stuff from you I don't buy.

I seriously doubt you think I am bad.
If I had BTSC, I would have definitely already asked them when the phase ended.

This I don't buy.

I have hosted so many games and been bad many times, and lately, BTSC is quiet. People go for days without talking.

I find it hard to believe that you would ask your teammates when the phase ended rather than take two seconds to scroll upward and look at the poll deadline.

I've made it clear that our hostess should speak up on this.
It was Friday earlier.
But me taking suspicion for her mistake is okay, I guess.

Can you show me where nijuukyugou indicated it was Friday?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?

The Syndicate used to be no-change-votes central. I know we can't change votes.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm WTF is with all of the third party hosting crap in people's sigs?

And in light of the remaining minutes to this day, I'm never going to catch up fully, if someone can give me the cole's notes on the big cases?

No, but disable your signature in your member control panel. Photobucket lost its shit.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:39 pm Yeah I doubt the hostess will admit her mistake if she came to me in a PM AFTER I got heat for it in the thread from none other than Golden himself

Me too. God, what a bitch.

linki

I am also not enthusiastic about speedchuck's vote for Long Con, followed up by someone he apparently suspects. I am hoping to hear more from speedchuck before I vote.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:49 pm I am also not enthusiastic about speedchuck's vote for Long Con, followed up by someone he apparently suspects. I am hoping to hear more from speedchuck before I vote.

He voted then because he wasn't going to be back.

Still doesn't change my opinion, but I guess I can give up the hope from hearing from him.

Golden, Dom, and Long Con are dead.

Who gets your vote?

To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

I would. I know INH better than I know TonyStarkPrime (however much anyone could "know" INH- I honest to God PMed him when I saw his location was Lumberton, NC, since Lumberton is 30 minutes from house. He never responded). TonyStarkPrime could be the guy I said he was, but so could a bunch of other people. Hell, let him live long enough and maybe he'll expose himself if I'm right. There's still plenty of mafia to go around.

*from my house

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:59 pm How about this question, epi... with dom, golden and LC alive, would you still vote INH?

Yes.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

Do you see anybody else posting anything funny?

Holy shit.

First time for everything. I think Lorab is...

...

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:02 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

Do you see anybody else posting anything funny?

Would you put it past Ricochet to do some sort of stunt in his posting every day?

I don't put anything past anybody. Do you?

Ricochet is stubborn. I would expect more faces from him.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:10 pm Glad you've caught up on LoRab, Epi I actually think my declared town core is one we should try to rely on, because I believe in it (the marginal reads aside, which are all leaning further away rather than into those reads now).

I've considered rico self-cursing, but I don't think so. I got the sense his flow was disrupted. I still think LC's immediate reaction post to Rico's curse is relevant. Possibly its inh and LC together.

If he "self-cursed," then it would mean someone else is cursed, or the cursing person was blocked or forgot to send in a PM.

I am right now ready to lynch INH.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:14 pm Or he sent in no PM and then faked it.

To what end?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:20 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

I would. I know INH better than I know TonyStarkPrime (however much anyone could "know" INH- I honest to God PMed him when I saw his location was Lumberton, NC, since Lumberton is 30 minutes from house. He never responded). TonyStarkPrime could be the guy I said he was, but so could a bunch of other people. Hell, let him live long enough and maybe he'll expose himself if I'm right. There's still plenty of mafia to go around.

I honestly didn't receive a PM from you about that.

Lumberton NC is the location in which the movie Blue Velvet is set, not my actual location for the record.

I gathered.

Golden, what is your opinion of INH? My impression is that you aren't happy with it.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:24 pm Golden, what is your opinion of INH? My impression is that you aren't happy with it.

I can't read inh for shit, but this is legitimately the first game I've ever played with him where I get no baddie vibes with him. On the other hand, I think there is legitimate in thread evidence that LC perpetrated the curse.

I guess what I'm struggling with is... is inh the kind of guy to do something that so obviously links back to him? And I have no answer to that, because I don't understand his brain.

What is the in-thread evidence that LC perpetrated the curse?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:36 pm I quoted it above for you!

I see.

Nah.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:41 pm Rainbow list of people currently with votes:

INH
Dom
TSP
LC
Golden

Even my lowest ranked isn't someone I'd be super comfortable lynching.

Whom would you want dead?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:55 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:45 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:41 pm Rainbow list of people currently with votes:

INH
Dom
TSP
LC
Golden

Even my lowest ranked isn't someone I'd be super comfortable lynching.

Whom would you want dead?

I'd rather see Boomslang, Sprityo, or Elo's name up there than any of the already chosen options, but that's just off the top of my head.

Also, can I ask why you voted for me?

I said why.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:04 pm Actually I guess it's good I missed it. We can narrow down Marcus this way.

Bunch of people missed the vote.

"Narrow down Marcus."

Jesus.

Long Con was Marcus' teammate. That warrants analysis.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:48 pm Four people I'm gonna be looking at Day 3, provided I'm still able to look at people by that point:

Epignosis
TSP
Elochin
Boomslang

Go ahead and look.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:52 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:48 pm Long Con was Marcus' teammate. That warrants analysis.

What do you make of LC's reaction that he 'was' going to be lynched. Fake, or clearing the inh voters from being Marcus?

I'd need to see the post.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:56 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:52 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:48 pm Long Con was Marcus' teammate. That warrants analysis.

What do you make of LC's reaction that he 'was' going to be lynched. Fake, or clearing the inh voters from being Marcus?

I'd need to see the post.

Do you intend to try to find it?

Not right now.

So Jack is sold that LC's team tried to save him, even though he didn't vote to save himself.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:59 pm So Jack is sold that LC's team tried to save him, even though he didn't vote to save himself.

LC wasn't around. This doesn't necessarily apply to his teammates.

Just like other people being quiet in BTCC lately doesn't necessarily apply to Golden.

Bad logic, baddie.

It's not bad logic. It's a different perspective. You don't do well with those.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:04 pm A tie vote of 2 on teammate and 2 on another player and lots of suspicion all around with 90 min to go?

Then 4 votes hit elsewhere in that last 90 min?

You're damn right I think someone was trying to save LC.

If INH had been lynched, and was shown to be mafia, you would think the votes on LC were a save attempt.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:59 pm So Jack is sold that LC's team tried to save him, even though he didn't vote to save himself.

LC wasn't around. This doesn't necessarily apply to his teammates.

Just like other people being quiet in BTCC lately doesn't necessarily apply to Golden.

Bad logic, baddie.

It's not bad logic. It's a different perspective. You don't do well with those.

Luckily, I can tell bad perspectives I disagree with (Epi) from good ones I disagree with (Lorab).

Please explain how LC not voting to save himself means his team didn't.

I don't need to explain it. You are assuming LC's team tried to save him. I am not making that assumption.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:04 pm A tie vote of 2 on teammate and 2 on another player and lots of suspicion all around with 90 min to go?

Then 4 votes hit elsewhere in that last 90 min?

You're damn right I think someone was trying to save LC.

If INH had been lynched, and was shown to be mafia, you would think the votes on LC were a save attempt.

Not really. The case on LC was much stronger.

I don't agree.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:08 pm Speed and LC voted early. Golden and Lorab said LC was bad before INH was even a real option. INH votes self preservation.

There were no votes to save INH.

Where did LC vote?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:09 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:59 pm So Jack is sold that LC's team tried to save him, even though he didn't vote to save himself.

LC wasn't around. This doesn't necessarily apply to his teammates.

Just like other people being quiet in BTCC lately doesn't necessarily apply to Golden.

Bad logic, baddie.

It's not bad logic. It's a different perspective. You don't do well with those.

Luckily, I can tell bad perspectives I disagree with (Epi) from good ones I disagree with (Lorab).

Please explain how LC not voting to save himself means his team didn't.

I don't need to explain it. You are assuming LC's team tried to save him. I am not making that assumption.

I explained why the votes were saves.

You are arguing they weren't with no reasoning.

I think you are wrong. All LC's team had to do to give him a chance (or save him outright) was to vote for Dom, who trailed LC by one vote.

That was not an attempt to save him.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:16 pm K.

Why didn't you want to vote for LC, Epi?

You don't think Golden's "playing the ball" arguement held more water than "You know, I bet INH would give a Poppy curse"?

Why do you think Tony voted INH, considering he's barely played with the guy?

I didn't want to vote for LC because I didn't have much of an opinion on him.

I don't understand Golden's "playing the ball" argument. I also don't care for someone voting and then trying to get other people to vote somewhere else.

I don't know why Tony voted INH. You could ask him.

No, I didn't.