The Syndicate

oh god it's another one of these

i got my hopes up for a second

16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

and yeah, nova is clearly the lynch which makes nook the nightkill

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

Generally agree. There must be three levels now? But presumably we'll collapse back together at some point.

Can't believe they lynched Spiny's slot.

She was obvtown and on top of that it looks like she was a mason

I wish I'd been there to defend her

super bad lynch

from the people here my immediate top 3 are {colin/dom/jack}

the lack of a nova flip is a real bitch

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:28 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

Generally agree. There must be three levels now? But presumably we'll collapse back together at some point.

Can't believe they lynched Spiny's slot.

She was obvtown and on top of that it looks like she was a mason

I wish I'd been there to defend her

super bad lynch

Fill a brother in on why she might have been a mason?

REDACTED section in her flip might have been a link to a private chat with the person she knew to be confirmed town

That's a pretty standard use for redaction IME

Here, I saved the wording of her flip:

"You are the subconscious aspect of conscientiousness.

You represent the mark’s steadfastness in the proper and thorough completion of tasks set before them.

You begin the game with the knowledge that REDACTED is an aspect of the subconscious and not an intruder.

REDACTED

You will win the game if all threats to the subconscious mind are eliminated."

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:32 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:30 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:28 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

Generally agree. There must be three levels now? But presumably we'll collapse back together at some point.

Can't believe they lynched Spiny's slot.

She was obvtown and on top of that it looks like she was a mason

I wish I'd been there to defend her

super bad lynch

Fill a brother in on why she might have been a mason?

REDACTED section in her flip might have been a link to a private chat with the person she knew to be confirmed town

That's a pretty standard use for redaction IME

Hmm okay. Here on The Syndicate there are typically roles that have *Secrets* attached but which can be anything, not necessarily a mason relationship or anything like that. That's what I interpreted the REDACTED as but who knows

Occam's razor says the two redactions are related IMO

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.

I endorse this list in its entirety

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.

I endorse this list in its entirety

except sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle group

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:36 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:32 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:30 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:28 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

Generally agree. There must be three levels now? But presumably we'll collapse back together at some point.

Can't believe they lynched Spiny's slot.

She was obvtown and on top of that it looks like she was a mason

I wish I'd been there to defend her

super bad lynch

Fill a brother in on why she might have been a mason?

REDACTED section in her flip might have been a link to a private chat with the person she knew to be confirmed town

That's a pretty standard use for redaction IME

Hmm okay. Here on The Syndicate there are typically roles that have *Secrets* attached but which can be anything, not necessarily a mason relationship or anything like that. That's what I interpreted the REDACTED as but who knows

8/10 times its a mason, 1/10 times it's a different role, and 1/10 is that it was targeted by a janitor. Odds are that it was just a mason slot.

It's always at least an Emissary who was an obvious townie

bad, bad lynch

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:41 pm The read I feel strongest about in my 3 was iaafr, I think. Felt like they were posting a lot but too much noise, not content or hunting. So tell me why I'm wrong.

I get where you're coming from, but I just keep coming around to their opinions the more I investigate and bounce off other people. I thought they sucked, but maybe they're seeing this game more clearly than me. That makes them Town, and more strongly so than if I'd never really questioned their reads.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.

I endorse this list in its entirety

except sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle group

Is this due to his emotional outburst around EOD? Trying to figure out where you're getting the confidence for the placement there.

The emotional outburst solidified it but I've been feeling like he was town since Day 1: he plays like I do when I'm under serious time crunch

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.

I endorse this list in its entirety

except sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle group

Is this due to his emotional outburst around EOD? Trying to figure out where you're getting the confidence for the placement there.

The emotional outburst solidified it but I've been feeling like he was town since Day 1: he plays like I do when I'm under serious time crunch

by which I mean "when I'm slanking"

I'd also like to point out that we seem to be roughly halving each day

30/16/9/?

I would bet a dollar tomorrow is 5 players

as such I would really like Epignosis to hurry up and become obvtown today, assuming he can

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:14 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:59 pm I'd also like to point out that we seem to be roughly halving each day

30/16/9/?

I would bet a dollar tomorrow is 5 players

as such I would really like Epignosis to hurry up and become obvtown today, assuming he can

That was my Halloween costume.

I didn't realize you were in the mash.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:33 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

Remind me what the slip up was. I’ve drank since day end.

he accidentally posted the lynch from the first level in our thread

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:40 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:33 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that

Remind me what the slip up was. I’ve drank since day end.

he accidentally posted the lynch from the first level in our thread

And it was...

quoted like five posts ago, read the damn thread

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:46 pm I used my brilliant mind to deduce Boo was town.

stop roleplaying gilgamesh and start playing the game

mongrel

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.

... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:09 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.

... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.

Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.

And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.

When I played with the role back on MSPAFA it was always NK only. But then again last day's lynch didn't flip, so... Yeah, I guess you could have a point. Still feels much more likely a mason.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:06 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:02 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:40 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:33 pm Here, I saved the wording of her flip:

"You are the subconscious aspect of conscientiousness.

You represent the mark’s steadfastness in the proper and thorough completion of tasks set before them.

You begin the game with the knowledge that REDACTED is an aspect of the subconscious and not an intruder.

REDACTED

You will win the game if all threats to the subconscious mind are eliminated."

how is this not mech what

...

I'm a moron, that wording does actually make sense for a peek. And you're presuming she just TMI'd ES hard since she could afford to? I could see that if we get confirmation as to how loudly Spiny yelled it. If only we could look back ;_;. Hopefully one of the others can answer the tag with a good memory.

I actually saved that post because I was wondering why Spiny was TRing me so strongly. Let me see if I can dig it up again.

And while I'm here at 4AM I would like to answer Epi's question:

Because that godfather play is exactly the kind of thing I would do as scum. It's a reasonable mistake ("godfathers are super powerful"in a game which makes them...
not), but it has far-reaching implications for gamestate because it lets you argue a different set of scum motivations. Assuming you're scum - and your push on Iaafr is really not winning you points in that category - you're using that to distort the gamestate and push faulty lynches.

In short, it smells like agenda and it's the kind of scumplay I would expect from someone of your apparent skill.

[mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] The iaafr push is bad. Like, really bad. Assume rabbit's town. Why might he have strong reason to not vote?

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

also, if you have the list of potential roles saved from the D1 OP I'd appreciate you posting it 'cause I'm not sure if I have it in my notes

never mind I had it

D1 OP "these roles exist somehow" list:

TOWN:
Cop - alignment checker
Tracker - learns who a player targeted
Watcher - learns who targeted a player
Doctor - prevents fatal actions
Independent Cop - alignment checker, 3rd party exclusive
Commuter - can evade night actions
Mason - two or more players know each other to be innocent
Doublevoter - vote worth double
Redirector - changes target's target to new player
Vigilante - killer
Jailkeeper - protects target from actions and blocks target from performing actions
Vanilla - no special abilities

SCUM:
Janitor - can obscure the role of a night kill
Role Cop - learn target's role in basic terms
Godfather - appears innocent to alignment checker
Strongman - bypasses kill protections
Rolebocker - prevents target's role from functioning
Vanilla - no special abilities

3P:
3rd party independent

so a couple things on review:
1: There is absolutely at least one 3p in this game, probably Mal
2: There is no Emissary afaict, so Spiny was def. a Mason
3: Scumteam has a Janitor 100%. Not sure if this makes me more or less sus of Pawn. I think I'm going with "less" right now.
4: colin needs examining

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:00 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:51 am And while I'm here at 4AM I would like to answer Epi's question:

Because that godfather play is exactly the kind of thing I would do as scum. It's a reasonable mistake ("godfathers are super powerful"in a game which makes them...
not), but it has far-reaching implications for gamestate because it lets you argue a different set of scum motivations. Assuming you're scum - and your push on Iaafr is really not winning you points in that category - you're using that to distort the gamestate and push faulty lynches.

In short, it smells like agenda and it's the kind of scumplay I would expect from someone of your apparent skill.

@Pawn Lelouch The iaafr push is bad. Like, really bad. Assume rabbit's town. Why might he have strong reason to not vote?

Bluntly iaafr himself already answered that earlier today and I concurred with him publicly since it's a play I would do. Assume the Drago lynch goes through and no lynch to make that more likely by removing a 112 vote while still looking on the surface suspicious. That suspicious EOD means you never die that night and there's enough self confidence in skill that you can talk your way off a lynch.

Yeah, I absolutely buy survival as his motivation.

@Epignosis actually I think you ahould have this in your case notes from yesterday IIRC, but here's Spiny's post again:

"ok if i'm gonna start posting from the point I'm caught up at, these were my ~vibes~

anyway Eva is town. and not JUST because her savagery in response to Drago's flirting attempts was the most beautiful effortless thing she's ever done. (more because of her responses to iaafr and 112). Her read that Drago continuing that flirting so long was trying to force conversation, thus scummy, was not one that would've occurred to me, but ig she could be right there.

I do not understand where iaafr's "always town" read of 112 started or came from or what the vibe is that he likes, even though he has since made posts explaining it. i like other posts of iaafr and his overall tone, but that whole read is so ???? to me.

lol at Mac saying he's policy never-lynching me and then immediately asking other people to build a case on me stuck_out_tongue that and some overly defensive early posts / questioning things I thought were obvious had me side-eyeing him. but i liked his later posts. will see how he engages with Eva.

I do vibe with IAAFR saying that there's too much "hey i like this guy" and "this guy can be town" going on. from loose recollection Hyena and Epi felt like offenders there. Hyena maybe felt less sincere? this is loose memory."

I'm not going to speak to mechanics regarding the first point at all, because claim rules, but I do think this strong read from a confirmed townie is worth considering. Please don't turn your brain off and take this as a 100% mech clear though, use your best judgment.

As for the second point, it's clearly shading Iaafr for what she considers a bad mason hint because she knows she's a mason.

Wish Mac was here to yell at about the third point.

Fourth point is absolutely getting factored into my Epi and Iaafr reads.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

and now I am going back to fucking bed

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:53 am Im hesitant to call spiny's post a clear because we dont hve a way to cross examine anyone who called Evenstar town (without changing their mind). Otherwise i might entertain it better.

I think this position is very wise.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:54 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:05 am never mind I had it

D1 OP "these roles exist somehow" list:

TOWN:
Cop - alignment checker
Tracker - learns who a player targeted
Watcher - learns who targeted a player
Doctor - prevents fatal actions
Independent Cop - alignment checker, 3rd party exclusive
Commuter - can evade night actions
Mason - two or more players know each other to be innocent
Doublevoter - vote worth double
Redirector - changes target's target to new player
Vigilante - killer
Jailkeeper - protects target from actions and blocks target from performing actions
Vanilla - no special abilities

SCUM:
Janitor - can obscure the role of a night kill
Role Cop - learn target's role in basic terms
Godfather - appears innocent to alignment checker
Strongman - bypasses kill protections
Rolebocker - prevents target's role from functioning
Vanilla - no special abilities

3P:
3rd party independent

so a couple things on review:
1: There is absolutely at least one 3p in this game, probably Mal
2: There is no Emissary afaict, so Spiny was def. a Mason
3: Scumteam has a Janitor 100%. Not sure if this makes me more or less sus of Pawn. I think I'm going with "less" right now.
4: colin needs examining

wasn't it mentioned in the OP as well that these are not ALL the roles? or something to that effect?

- yeah, it did mention that, I quoted that on D1 in a post somewhere but now I've forgotten the exact wording

something something "variants and other roles not on this list may exist, it's not comprehensive"?

so I guess Emissary is possible under the category of "mason variant"

ergh

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:54 am Just so everyone knows, "mentioning" me with the @ symbol three times in the middle of the night when I'm sleeping will have little hope of capturing my attention. I read everything in order anyway, so there's no point in it at all.

If you read it all, why does this post not contain an answer to my second question?

Sorry if I disturbed your sleep with pleasant little alert dings though, that's never fun

I actually dreamt that I was playing mafia tonight

clearly this game is getting into my brain

so having double checked the thread, I see I have not, in fact, posted that tomorrow is very very likely special somehow

because
30/16/9/5 players

with approximately
8/4/2/1 scum

not to mention there were three dream layers and then Limbo in the movie, and the fact that the new OP says "We're getting closer. Maybe an idea can be planted here?"

And returning to my earlier point: given that tomorrow is very likely a Final Five situation, we need to solve Epignosis now. I don't want anyone tinfoiling on them if they end up in the final(?) dream level.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:30 am As of pg 5 I am comfortable locking in Epignosis as town. I don’t think he goes after iaafr that thoroughly just for kicks.

That is in fact the series of posts that is most making me doubt right now, because I feel it was pursued long after it stopped being useful

it felt performative, not investigative

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:48 am What if instead of all the Syndicate players being the mafia ... all the other players are the mafia ?!?

You're never going to convince me on Rabbit now. Talk to me about Radishes and Pawn though.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:49 am I have a tinfoil suspicion that at least one of Pawn or Radishes are scum, mainly because I townread them both so easily. Discuss.

... maybe you're town??

Give me better reasons than tinfoil though.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:41 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:13 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:09 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.

... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.

Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.

And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.

When I played with the role back on MSPAFA it was always NK only. But then again last day's lynch didn't flip, so... Yeah, I guess you could have a point. Still feels much more likely a mason.

YOU PLAYED ON MSPAFA?! Did you ever play at Chocolate Pi Forums where they moved the mafia threads to?

Yes, I did! I was Lagren! I didn't move to Chocolate Pi though, alas.

Yeah this push on Rabbit from dom is not endearing them to me. Particularly their apparent belief that not voting is a smoking gun.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:59 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:53 pm i feel like im getting gaslighted by these accusations and i feel like youre interrogating me in an extremely abrasive guilty-until-proven-innocent way

which ok is a philosophy but can you stop?

i dont want to get myself out of your suspect pool

lowkey if you think epi is being abraisive here... then you'd literally die if you played with him a few years ago.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:08 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:08 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:06 am the funniest thing is i did do work n1 and read a lot of isos

i just didnt prep posts like you did

Lesson learned.

Why are you afraid of some of my questions?

see the emotional intelligence book might help you realize im not afraid im annoyed and i have no patience to defend myself and i already told you i dont care if you scumread me

This is perhaps the saddest, smallest post I have ever seen from someone who is upset people are trying to "teach" them how to play.

Fuck off, dude

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:09 am HOW DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS NOT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A DAY THREE LIKE ID PLAY ANY NORMAL DAY THREE WHICH IS QUOTE OPSTS FROM A DAY ONE AND DAY TWO THAT HAVE CONTINUITY

How do you not realize that we are literally all in the same boat and nothing is being done to you personally?

People who are dicks are >rand scum.

I went against this principle with dragomir, and look where it got me.

Rabbit's just town. Not so sure about you or epi though.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:45 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:43 am doms push on me definitely just felt scummy though like he was looking for somebody to scumread and he didnt even give town me a chance

You had like a billion posts and he had like eight.

Who isn’t giving who a chance?

You’re bleeding agenda, my fluffy friend.

!!!!

Stop posting exclamation points in response to other people's posts like that means something. Use your words.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 pm Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

I literally have been scumreading Epi for being an unnecessary dick since like a page ago.

Stop playing the victim.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:31 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 pm Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes

Why?

Hyena is town because I know how he plays and he's town hyena
iaafr is town because I'm mindmelding with them, and also for other reasons
you're scum because you're not playing the game and hiding that behind fake aggression while trying to buddy up to epignosis
jack is scum because he's not playing the game, but he's doing better with making his thoughts clear today
I'm tinfoiling radishes because he pushed me hard yesterday and it feels like he reversed on me a bit too quickly

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pm

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.

Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?

Ah yes, you can dish it out but you can't take the consequences.

oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:48 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:44 pm oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

Was rather hoping to not mention that possibility. Figured we could keep him alive pretty easily without mentioning the possibility that could give us an edge during the day phase.

same but now like four people are scumreading him

best to nip this in the bud before he becomes a massive distraction

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:48 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:44 pm oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

I have no iea what you're talking about and won't take orders from anyone ?

Like... wtf ?

Why do you think that I'm beholden to you?

aight I'm done with this conversation

do what you wish

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:49 pm I like how the people saying to stop being mean only engage with me on the stuff they say I'm mean about and not the content I'm posting. It's very convincing that they're trying to play a game here.

what content?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:53 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:44 pm oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

tbh, i'm not following this logic, but this theory enough isnt enough to convince me to not have rabbit in my potential voting pool

if his double-vote makes the difference to lynch a scum he is NK'd every time guaranteed

if his double-vote is noticed by scum he is NK'd >50% of the time

concrete evidence of its existence makes him damn close to an IC due to the fact that "Doublevoter" is in the list of existing town roles

he just didn't bet on all the votes after D1 being anonymous and therefore being unable to mech clear himself

it fits entirely with his reckless play

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:54 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:53 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:44 pm oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

tbh, i'm not following this logic, but this theory enough isnt enough to convince me to not have rabbit in my potential voting pool

See, sprit, I'm a dick when I don't get things.

I'm sure you'll get a much warmer reception and perhaps, even, be treated like a human being.

You get out what you put in, Dom.