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by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:25 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:26 am So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely
Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Glor, can you update us on your readlist?
Would not vote:
Sloonei

Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool

Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts

Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:38 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:33 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:00 pm I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!
Nah don’t vote sprityo
Why not?
He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.
I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?
Mac died?
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

Sloonei wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:49 pm EBWOP: Convince me *TO* vote for jack. I’m not in favor of that option right now, but I haven’t completely ruled it out.
I’m 50/50 on it myself right now. My rationale is above. That, and I hate the thought of losing this game to him if he is Mafia.

I still kinda like the Creature option though. I’ll vote there for now unless someone can convince me otherwise.
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:56 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:25 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:21 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:26 am So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely
Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?
Glor, can you update us on your readlist?
Would not vote:
Sloonei

Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool

Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts

Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.
Defending who?
You.
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:59 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:10 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:30 am Yeah I think jack sounds like a good vote right about now

[VOTE: jack] aubergine
So this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.

Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:58 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:54 pm I hate the thought of losing this game to him if he is Mafia.
Honestly, Glor. Do you think you'd be alive on D3 if I was mafia?

I'm playing nice but if I was scum, I'd just sidestep the issue and make sure we didn't get a repeat of what happened in Potter.
That’s kind of a good point. There is no doubt in my mind that you wouldn’t string me up at the first opportunity you had.
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:03 pm Image
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] That is EXCELLENT! Can we have the EoD vote counts posted like this ALL the time please?
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

I’m sorry, but FFS!!!
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Clearly an analysis of Colin’s reads and how they changed (if they did) is required here.
by Glorfindel
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:26 pm When did I back off the Sloonei recruit theory? (Though wouldn't it be fantastic if there was just no recruit?)
And just what makes you think there would be no recruit? Sabie was sufficiently online to suggest that the Mafia team wouldn’t have missed an opportunity like that.
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:26 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:17 pm Jack seems like he's gone through most of this game with a bit of a...carefree attitude to me with lots of jokes and humor.

Jack, what are some good reason(s) to not vote for you on Day 4 and why you aren't one of the two remaining baddies? Because Colin's role reveal makes me feel the least good about you now.
1) I would have killed Glor N1 if I was a wolf. I hate his truth meta. I think it’s against the spirit of the game. He’s unlynchable if town. I’m a good tap dancer. As a wolf, I don’t shoot people to take pressure off myself. I shoot people I can’t mislynch and wolf Jack can’t mislynch town Glor. Last time I tried, he turned what should have been a mislynch into a scum lynch with truth meta. I called for him to be modkilled. Threatened to replace out. Said he ruined the game for me. If I have a nk and Glor is town, he doesn’t last past night 1.

2) Sabie ended D1 and D2 voting for me. She put me a coin flip away from death D1. Look at her posts. We aren’t teamed.

3) Creature is an easy mislynch if you don’t know his meta. Wolf Jack lets him get mislynched instead of insisting Creature is 100% town and backing it up with post counts. Sloonei’s posts about Creature’s meta are incorrect or lies btw. There’s a significant difference between his scum game here and in Arrowverse.

4) When he voted for me, Colin said he’d switch to Sloonei if people were interested. He clearly did not red peek me.
I may choose to address this later when I feel less enraged...
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

sprityo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:26 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:24 am Day1

birdwithteeth11: Creature, Sloonei
Epignosis: Long Con
Glorfindel: birdwithteeth11
Jackofhearts2005: sabie12, Glorfindel
Sabie12:TonyStarkPrime, MacDougall
sprityo: ColinIsCool, Epignosis
Not voting presently: sprityo, Jackofhearts2005



Day 2
Creature: sprityo, glorf, sabie
Sabie: sloonei, mac, TSP, creature, colin
Sloonei: Jack, LongCon
Didn’t vote: BWT2

Day 3

Colin: sloonei, BWT2, jack
Creature: glorfindel
Jack: sprityo, Colin
Sprityo: TSP
Not voting: Mac, Creature
I find that somewhat curious - that Day 2 Jack is not voting for Sabie when she is lynched (as Mafia) whilst Sloonei is on her wagon and then Day 3, he jumps on Colin’s wagon to push it over the edge when his Day 2 lynch target is sitting on Colin too. Just my two cents (amateur wagonomics, I know).
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:17 pm There are reasons to believe Glor is antialigned with Sloonei and Sabie.

There are reasons to think BWT is antialigned with Sloonei.
I don’t understand what this post is saying...?
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:55 am
Glorfindel wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:50 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:17 pm There are reasons to believe Glor is antialigned with Sloonei and Sabie.

There are reasons to think BWT is antialigned with Sloonei.
I don’t understand what this post is saying...?
There are reasons to think you aren’t a wolf with Sloonei it a wolf with Sabie.

There are reasons to think BWT isn’t a wolf with Sloonei.
Still don’t get it, sorry...
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:38 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:03 am
Glorfindel wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:59 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:55 am
Glorfindel wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:50 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:17 pm There are reasons to believe Glor is antialigned with Sloonei and Sabie.

There are reasons to think BWT is antialigned with Sloonei.
I don’t understand what this post is saying...?
There are reasons to think you aren’t a wolf with Sloonei it a wolf with Sabie.

There are reasons to think BWT isn’t a wolf with Sloonei.
Still don’t get it, sorry...
Wolves are like bad guys.
So, you’re saying that there are reasons to believe that Sloonei and I aren’t aligned? Would you care to elaborate on what they might be? I’m curious...
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:22 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

From my understanding, Mafia started off with two members and converted one over the course of a couple of days and whom didn’t become a fully fledged member until yesterday. So, Night 1 & 2, it was only Sabie and the Master. According to the information on The Master’s role card, The Master can’t NK consecutive nights. Had Sabie been lynched Day 1, The Master (i.e. the Mafia team) would’ve been unable to submit the NK on Night 2. Sabie was from my reading (prior to Epi’s intervention) was taking pretty heavy fire Day 1 so it’s fairly safe to assume that The Master would’ve been especially keen to avoid having Sabie eliminated Day 1. Based on that, I think an analysis of whether any one of us actively tried to dissuade her lynching Day 1 might give us some valuable information.
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Spoiler: show
#103 Halfway through the first Day, Mac puts a vote on Sabie.

#104 Immediately after Mac’s vote on Sabie, TSP asks Mac if he’d considered voting for Jack.

#107 Mac addresses Sabie’s post in very direct fashion and points out that she refused to give a read on TSP on the basis of unfamiliarity with his meta despite offering non-meta reads on Creature and Épi.

#117 Here we see a defense by TSP to Sabie’s assertion that she had ‘nothing to go on’ in terms of being able to read him. Seems interesting at this point looking back that this defense followed so closely after Mac’s comment about Sabie’s read on him.

#124 TSP asks BWT if he has any reads on Sabie and Mac.

#126 BWT declines a read on Sabie but says he believes Mac to be Town on the basis that he wasn’t defending himself.

#129 BWT places his vote on Sabie.

#132 BWT says he wants to re-consider his vote on Sabie because he can’t see the case on her :huh:

#137 In a masterful analysis, Epi declares Sabie 67% Mafia.

#138 TSP indicates that he will support Epi’s case on Sabie.

#144 THAT post of Epi’s.

#145 Sloonei like wise endorses Mac’s case on Sabie on the rationale of a disproportionate content/reads ratio.

#149 BWT declines the case on Sabie.

#153 Lon Con states that he is unvoting Sabie as a consequence of #144.

#155 Colin says he likes Mac’s case on Sabie but is dissuaded by #144.

# 164 Sloonei asks Colin for reads on players other than Sabie.

#165 Sabie says she suspects Sprityo and Jack, thinks that TSP and Glorf are OK despite being unfamiliar with our play styles and admonished Mac for having mis-lynched as Town in previous games.

#166 TSP addresses #165 asking Sabie for a case on either Sprityo or Jack.

#169 Sabie’s response to TSP claiming that Mafia-Jack is more laid back and Town-Jack is openly diligent and she believes that she’s observed the former this game. Doesn’t reference Sprityo but raises suspicion of BWT on the same basis.

#171 Less than two hours from EOD, Sloonei says that while he doesn’t hate the case on Sabie, he’s wary of it because of #144 (not directly referenced).

#172 In response to #169, TSP places his vote on Sabie

#180 In a sympathetic post, Glorf states to Sabie that he is voting for her according to his best judgement.

#185 Again, Sabie pushes on BWT, throws shade at Epi and reiterates her case on Jack.

#187 Glorf response to Sloonei stating that he is ‘concerned’ about Sloonei and Sabie both raising the issue of an apparent difference in Jack’s meta this game (despite arriving at different conclusions).

#193 Glorf changes his vote from Sabie to Jack.

#196 Sabie votes Jack.

#204 Creature claims Town’s lack of creativity in lynching Sabie is worrisome.

#205 With half an hour to go, Creature lists BWT, Jack, Sprityo and Lon Con as alternative lynch targets to Sabie.

#230 With less than 15 minutes before EOD, Mac declares that he will remain on Sabie.

#240 Sloonei asks Mac if he wasn’t voting Sabie, who he’d vote for.
At the EOD, we had a tie between BWT, Jack, Sabie and Sprityo. From all of this, I believe that it’s fair to conclude that Mac has to be Town. Sprityo is Town (from Colin’s assumed peek). I think Jack looks marginally better in light of the above. I have to admit, my Town read of Sloonei is looking less strong and that I, myself don’t look great from this. There are times there that I am starting to doubt my Town read of TSP and Creature (I think) comes off looking particularly bad. I need some help with Oreki/BWT. We’re they even here at all before Day 3? If they weren’t, I guess that disqualifies them from consideration too...
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am
Glorfindel wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:04 am
Spoiler: show
#103 Halfway through the first Day, Mac puts a vote on Sabie.

#104 Immediately after Mac’s vote on Sabie, TSP asks Mac if he’d considered voting for Jack.

#107 Mac addresses Sabie’s post in very direct fashion and points out that she refused to give a read on TSP on the basis of unfamiliarity with his meta despite offering non-meta reads on Creature and Épi.

#117 Here we see a defense by TSP to Sabie’s assertion that she had ‘nothing to go on’ in terms of being able to read him. Seems interesting at this point looking back that this defense followed so closely after Mac’s comment about Sabie’s read on him.

#124 TSP asks BWT if he has any reads on Sabie and Mac.

#126 BWT declines a read on Sabie but says he believes Mac to be Town on the basis that he wasn’t defending himself.

#129 BWT places his vote on Sabie.

#132 BWT says he wants to re-consider his vote on Sabie because he can’t see the case on her :huh:

#137 In a masterful analysis, Epi declares Sabie 67% Mafia.

#138 TSP indicates that he will support Epi’s case on Sabie.

#144 THAT post of Epi’s.

#145 Sloonei like wise endorses Mac’s case on Sabie on the rationale of a disproportionate content/reads ratio.

#149 BWT declines the case on Sabie.

#153 Lon Con states that he is unvoting Sabie as a consequence of #144.

#155 Colin says he likes Mac’s case on Sabie but is dissuaded by #144.

# 164 Sloonei asks Colin for reads on players other than Sabie.

#165 Sabie says she suspects Sprityo and Jack, thinks that TSP and Glorf are OK despite being unfamiliar with our play styles and admonished Mac for having mis-lynched as Town in previous games.

#166 TSP addresses #165 asking Sabie for a case on either Sprityo or Jack.

#169 Sabie’s response to TSP claiming that Mafia-Jack is more laid back and Town-Jack is openly diligent and she believes that she’s observed the former this game. Doesn’t reference Sprityo but raises suspicion of BWT on the same basis.

#171 Less than two hours from EOD, Sloonei says that while he doesn’t hate the case on Sabie, he’s wary of it because of #144 (not directly referenced).

#172 In response to #169, TSP places his vote on Sabie

#180 In a sympathetic post, Glorf states to Sabie that he is voting for her according to his best judgement.

#185 Again, Sabie pushes on BWT, throws shade at Epi and reiterates her case on Jack.

#187 Glorf response to Sloonei stating that he is ‘concerned’ about Sloonei and Sabie both raising the issue of an apparent difference in Jack’s meta this game (despite arriving at different conclusions).

#193 Glorf changes his vote from Sabie to Jack.

#196 Sabie votes Jack.

#204 Creature claims Town’s lack of creativity in lynching Sabie is worrisome.

#205 With half an hour to go, Creature lists BWT, Jack, Sprityo and Lon Con as alternative lynch targets to Sabie.

#230 With less than 15 minutes before EOD, Mac declares that he will remain on Sabie.

#240 Sloonei asks Mac if he wasn’t voting Sabie, who he’d vote for.
At the EOD, we had a tie between BWT, Jack, Sabie and Sprityo. From all of this, I believe that it’s fair to conclude that Mac has to be Town. Sprityo is Town (from Colin’s assumed peek). I think Jack looks marginally better in light of the above. I have to admit, my Town read of Sloonei is looking less strong and that I, myself don’t look great from this. There are times there that I am starting to doubt my Town read of TSP and Creature (I think) comes off looking particularly bad. I need some help with Oreki/BWT. We’re they even here at all before Day 3? If they weren’t, I guess that disqualifies them from consideration too...
Sloonei asks Mac where he would vote if not Sabie with 15 min to go and is voting Sabie by sheeping Mac. How is this a good look for Sloonei?

Sabie is going all in on a Jack lynch? How is that a marginally good look?

If Mac was recruited after D1, how do Mac’s posts D1 lock him in as town? I agree he’s very unlikely to be the master.

So let’s lynch Sloonei and if he flips as the recruit, I’ll consider Mac cleared.
No, I didn’t say the Mac/Sloonei exchange was a good look for Sloonei. I still trust him though and am not (at this point) interested in voting for him.

Consider yourself fortunate for the ‘marginally good look’. Trust me, it was a struggle for me to get even that far :haha:

As at Day 1, Mac is locked in as Town. Of course, you are correct - he may’ve been subsequently converted but the exercise was to try and find Sabie’s Day 1 and 2 partner.

I don’t make deals like What you’re proposing and I’m still suspicious of you. I’ll wait and see what light dawn brings to this mess before deciding on my final vote but in case I’m not here, I thought it important to put my thoughts out there now.
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] I’ll admit, when I went through my pops last night, I could see a murky thing happening there that suggested some kind of relationship between Sabie and TSP. Problem is, I can’t see a one person in a two person Mafia team bussing a PR teamie that early. I could however, if TSP had placed his vote on Sabie late Day 1 when he could do so with the least probability of her actually getting lynched (in a four-way tie) but I checked and he placed his vote on her two hours out from EoD and with all of the vote swapping that occurred after that, he couldn’t have known how it would turn out. I’m concluding that the chance of him being Sabie’s partner Day 1 is kinda low on that basis.
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 3)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:06 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am So let’s lynch Sloonei and if he flips as the recruit, I’ll consider Mac cleared.
I'm starting to think this might be the better option over you. How Sloonei flips may determine for me who is on the baddie team.
EBWOP cause I didn’t say anything.

Sloon flips recruit clears Mac.

Sloon flips Master points to Mac recruit.

Sloon flips wolf points to town Jack, town Tony, town Creature.

Sloon flips town, points to those same players + Mac as potential wolves.

He’s the most likely wolf and we learn the most from his id.
OK, after reading Sloonei’s posts (subsequent to this one) I’m convinced that you might be Town (still don’t feel like I can trust you though). That said, I reiterate my stance on his lynch - unless something happens that substantially implicates him as Mafia, I’m not jumping aboard your ‘lynch Sloonei train’.
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

If it wasn’t already obvious, my vote was always going to start on Creature today and I see no reason at all not to pursue that now.
by Glorfindel
Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:02 pm Or we could, you know, do nothing.

I want to take a look at everybody today. No stone left unturned and all that. I overextended myself on my run today and have been lying in bed on a endorphine cloud ever since, but once I have energy and motivation again i plan on asking myself what my best argument for and against every one of you is. I think that would be a good place to start and I encourage others to give it a try.
Well, for a start, I’d like to explore this post. I’m halfway through ‘Couch to 5K’ and would love to hear your experiences with running, Sloonei. How far do you normally run? How far is ‘over-extending’ yourself? Any tips for a beginner?
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:51 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:49 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:02 pm Or we could, you know, do nothing.

I want to take a look at everybody today. No stone left unturned and all that. I overextended myself on my run today and have been lying in bed on a endorphine cloud ever since, but once I have energy and motivation again i plan on asking myself what my best argument for and against every one of you is. I think that would be a good place to start and I encourage others to give it a try.
Well, for a start, I’d like to explore this post. I’m halfway through ‘Couch to 5K’ and would love to hear your experiences with running, Sloonei. How far do you normally run? How far is ‘over-extending’ yourself? Any tips for a beginner?
I don't know how to give tips! I've just kind of always done it. I played sports my entire childhood, then when high school ended I didn't have a natural fitness outlet and felt gross, so I decided to start running and now it's just a thing that I do for pleasure now, several years later. It relaxes me like nothing else, and I do it more for that than the fitness aspects of it, though I appreciate that as well.
Today I ran 7 miles, which isn't overdoing it by itself, but the temperature was in the upper-20s in Celsius with major humidity, and I also swallowed some bugs. I have no advice on how to avoid doing that, unfortunately.

I guess my main tip would be that your nutrition around the run is more important than the run itself. Drink lots of water and eat things that you won't regret later on, and make sure you do the proper amount of stretching before and after.

If you're just just starting out, keep in mind that every step counts as something. Don't try to achieve everything all at once but just go for minimal improvements every day.
[OT} Clearly, you are sadly mistaken, my friend. That is sum quality advice that I appreciate greatly. I am (in concert with the app) increasing my capacity slowly but steadily. I’ll confess, when I started out with this thing, I didn’t think I’d make it past the first week and here I am starting Week 4 tomorrow arvo. When I start, I feel great - like I king of the world! By the time I finish, I feel I should be in intensive care in a medical facility somewhere - and I feel the same no matter how far I run. I’d been wondering if I should drink more water or eat differently on the days I run and you helped clear that up for me, so I’m most grateful for the time you took to give me that advice, my friend :bighug: [/OT]
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
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Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:59 am
Glorfindel wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:51 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:49 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:02 pm Or we could, you know, do nothing.

I want to take a look at everybody today. No stone left unturned and all that. I overextended myself on my run today and have been lying in bed on a endorphine cloud ever since, but once I have energy and motivation again i plan on asking myself what my best argument for and against every one of you is. I think that would be a good place to start and I encourage others to give it a try.
Well, for a start, I’d like to explore this post. I’m halfway through ‘Couch to 5K’ and would love to hear your experiences with running, Sloonei. How far do you normally run? How far is ‘over-extending’ yourself? Any tips for a beginner?
I don't know how to give tips! I've just kind of always done it. I played sports my entire childhood, then when high school ended I didn't have a natural fitness outlet and felt gross, so I decided to start running and now it's just a thing that I do for pleasure now, several years later. It relaxes me like nothing else, and I do it more for that than the fitness aspects of it, though I appreciate that as well.
Today I ran 7 miles, which isn't overdoing it by itself, but the temperature was in the upper-20s in Celsius with major humidity, and I also swallowed some bugs. I have no advice on how to avoid doing that, unfortunately.

I guess my main tip would be that your nutrition around the run is more important than the run itself. Drink lots of water and eat things that you won't regret later on, and make sure you do the proper amount of stretching before and after.

If you're just just starting out, keep in mind that every step counts as something. Don't try to achieve everything all at once but just go for minimal improvements every day.
Clearly, you are sadly mistaken, my friend. That is sum quality advice that I appreciate greatly. I am (in concert with the app) increasing my capacity slowly but steadily. I’ll confess, when I started out with this thing, I didn’t think I’d make it past the first week and here I am starting Week 4 tomorrow arvo. When I start, I feel great - like I king of the world! By the time I finish, I feel I should be in intensive care in a medical facility somewhere - and I feel the same no matter how far I run. I’d been wondering if I should drink more water or eat differently on the days I run and you helped clear that up for me, so I’m most grateful for the time you took to give me that advice, my friend :bighug:
Well them I'm glad I could help! Yeah, water is a very important thing. Fruit and granola also make really good pre-run snacks.
What distance/pace/however this app measures things are you at right now?
It’s like 5 minute walk to warm up, run 2 minutes, walk 2 minutes, run 3 minutes, walk 2 minutes, repeat a few times then back to the 2 minute run and then cool down. It generally takes about a half an hour. I’m kinda excited to see if I can make it to the end and run half an hour straight. I should point out that this was the idea of my Physio who at the time was trying to help me with some stress-management strategies and as you say, it seems to have done the trick.
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

Spoiler: show
Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:57 am Witch Hunt: Why is everyone scum?

Creature - Has dropped off as the game has gone on, playstyle resembles another recent scum game. sabie kept him at arm's length when she was alive and he voted for Not Sabie Day 1.
Glorfindel - He went to great lengths to justify a scum read on Sabie Day 1. Could be an elaborate bussing effort.
Jackofhearts - Screwed around early, sabie expressed vague "iffy" scum read of him all of Day 1 and then backed off Day 2. Never voted for sabie.
Macdougall - Has dropped off since pouncing on sabie Day 1. Sabie seemed shook when he caught her Day 1. Possible recuit.
birdwithteeth - Has not done anything extraordinary one way or another since subbing in.
TonyStarkPrime - Deep wolf. I found some holes in his sabie interactions despite what would have had to be an aggressive bussing strategy.

Which of these arguments was the hardest to come up with/least convincing?
Glorfindel by a mile. Jack and birdwithteeth arguments also felt weak.

Mac needs to be the recruit if he's bad. Creature can be either, though I haven't done a deep look at his posts in a while so there might be something which changes my mind on that. I surprisingly still feel the strongest about the TonyStark read, but that could just be recency bias.

Trustfall: Why is everyone town?

Creature - Doesn't give a shit about optics. Criticism of the sabie wagon on Day 1 would be a very bold move from a Day 1 bad guy in a relatively new environment. Voted to lynch sabie.
Glorfindel - Was on board the sabie lynch from the beginning, has been an active and engaged presence throughout, Cannot Tell a Lie.
Jackofhearts - Doesn't give a shit about optics, was sabie's #1 target on Day 1.
Macdougall - Caught sabie Day 1.
birdwithteeth - Oreki wasn't even here for the first phase. birdwithteeth's presence since subbing back in resembles the player called birdwithteeth that we lynched on Day 1.
TonyStarkPrime - Look at him go. Has been the most consistent analytical voice on this list. Voted for sabie Days 1 & 2.

Glorf's still the best looking guy here (hey we're an all male game now. The Fucking Patriarchy wins again.). I feel better about my argument for birdwithteeth than the argument against him, but neither is especially strong. None of these were really difficult to come up with, honestly.

The three names that I'm getting stuck on are Mac, TSP, and Creature. A mafia team of Master Tony, Lou Tenant Sabie, and Recruit Mac might make some sense.
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]: I’m kinda with you on your suspicion of TSP. He admitted earlier this Day phase that he DID only place his vote on Sabie in the dying minutes of Day one when things were all tied up and he could do so with maximum safety. I think being Day 1, it’s more unlikely then, as ever that there would’ve been any external influences at play so in short, if he wanted to bus Sabie for Cred but not lose her, he’d have had no better opportunity. Might be a bit of a long bow but that post where Mac picked up on Sabie’s avoiding posting a read on TSP on the grounds of not being familiar with his game but then posting opinion pieces on other players with whom she also had limited exposure and TSP’s response to Mac on that do look a little strange to me.
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:39 am @Glorfindel I don't see Mac and Tony talking about that anywhere. Can you point me to the exchange you're referring to?
Read #103 to about #118...
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

I think things are kinda desperate for us here. Jack says he’s Town. I’ve got nothing but this weird feeling in my water that he might be Mafia. If we assume he’s Town (because no other option really makes any sense) what do we make of his insistence that Creature is Town too. How can he be so sure? My problem is Creature seems like too easy an option. Mac’s judgement was on point early this game. Even if he was converted Day 2, he was authentic Town Day 1. I think Sloonei has convinced me. I’m taking a chance here but I trust him. If I’m wrong, well, I learn from this.
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:31 am Sloonei and TSP are more civ than Creature. TSP voted Sabie both day 1 and 2 didn't he?

2 votes on 4 wagons and his vote is on Sabie.
Mac, please work with me on this one - look at the post I quoted of yours from Day 1 in response to Sabie’s post in which you commented that based on her refusal to ‘read’ TSP, that he must be Mafia is Sabie was. Shortly after you posted that, TSP latched on to Sabie (please correct me if I’m incorrect there). His response looks to me like it’s extremely defensive and looking at it now, I don’t think it looks good at all.

As for Creature, I said his lynch felt too easy and I’m starting to feel even more that way now. The guy has stopped playing, hasn’t he? I don’t know him all that well but I can’t see him doing that as Mafia.

Someone (Sloonei, perhaps) suggested that you might be the recruit. If that were the case (hypothetically speaking), your trying to influence my vote back to Creature (and abandoning your initial remarks about TSP) would make more sense, would it not? I’m just trying to keep an open mind to all the possibilities...

I’ll be back before EOD in the morning and I promise you now, I will vote to save Sloonei if it comes to that.
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:02 am
Glorfindel wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:20 am
Spoiler: show
Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:57 am Witch Hunt: Why is everyone scum?

Creature - Has dropped off as the game has gone on, playstyle resembles another recent scum game. sabie kept him at arm's length when she was alive and he voted for Not Sabie Day 1.
Glorfindel - He went to great lengths to justify a scum read on Sabie Day 1. Could be an elaborate bussing effort.
Jackofhearts - Screwed around early, sabie expressed vague "iffy" scum read of him all of Day 1 and then backed off Day 2. Never voted for sabie.
Macdougall - Has dropped off since pouncing on sabie Day 1. Sabie seemed shook when he caught her Day 1. Possible recuit.
birdwithteeth - Has not done anything extraordinary one way or another since subbing in.
TonyStarkPrime - Deep wolf. I found some holes in his sabie interactions despite what would have had to be an aggressive bussing strategy.

Which of these arguments was the hardest to come up with/least convincing?
Glorfindel by a mile. Jack and birdwithteeth arguments also felt weak.

Mac needs to be the recruit if he's bad. Creature can be either, though I haven't done a deep look at his posts in a while so there might be something which changes my mind on that. I surprisingly still feel the strongest about the TonyStark read, but that could just be recency bias.

Trustfall: Why is everyone town?

Creature - Doesn't give a shit about optics. Criticism of the sabie wagon on Day 1 would be a very bold move from a Day 1 bad guy in a relatively new environment. Voted to lynch sabie.
Glorfindel - Was on board the sabie lynch from the beginning, has been an active and engaged presence throughout, Cannot Tell a Lie.
Jackofhearts - Doesn't give a shit about optics, was sabie's #1 target on Day 1.
Macdougall - Caught sabie Day 1.
birdwithteeth - Oreki wasn't even here for the first phase. birdwithteeth's presence since subbing back in resembles the player called birdwithteeth that we lynched on Day 1.
TonyStarkPrime - Look at him go. Has been the most consistent analytical voice on this list. Voted for sabie Days 1 & 2.

Glorf's still the best looking guy here (hey we're an all male game now. The Fucking Patriarchy wins again.). I feel better about my argument for birdwithteeth than the argument against him, but neither is especially strong. None of these were really difficult to come up with, honestly.

The three names that I'm getting stuck on are Mac, TSP, and Creature. A mafia team of Master Tony, Lou Tenant Sabie, and Recruit Mac might make some sense.
@Sloonei: I’m kinda with you on your suspicion of TSP. He admitted earlier this Day phase that he DID only place his vote on Sabie in the dying minutes of Day one when things were all tied up and he could do so with maximum safety. I think being Day 1, it’s more unlikely then, as ever that there would’ve been any external influences at play so in short, if he wanted to bus Sabie for Cred but not lose her, he’d have had no better opportunity. Might be a bit of a long bow but that post where Mac picked up on Sabie’s avoiding posting a read on TSP on the grounds of not being familiar with his game but then posting opinion pieces on other players with whom she also had limited exposure and TSP’s response to Mac on that do look a little strange to me.
That was day 2 not day 1. Day 1 Vote was on most of the day.
OK, let me review this .
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

birdwithteeth11 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:35 pm Okay, so now that we've had the back and forth wall of discussion from TSP and Sloonei, I think this is where I currently stand.

Between the odds of who could be the Master vs. who could be the Recruit, I'm thinking about basing my vote on the odds of what lynching a certain person reveals in terms of information/clarity on the other players. And IMO, that person is probably Creature. I wasn't sure on Sloonei or TSP at first, but I feel like the discussion they were leading led to them butting heads and voting each other, but then being able to step back from that idea and re-examine the game as a whole. If either of them is mafia and managed to fake that, my hat is off to either or both of you as soon as this game ends.

So yeah, I don't have the energy right now to do the kind of examination I want to do, but I'm putting my vote on Creature for now. I might try to take a nap and come back before EOD to see if I can find anything else worthwhile to cover.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
I just want to say that I think this is wrong and bad play for the following reasons:

1. Creature’s demised will provide us with lots of information. REALLY? He’s barely posted in days. Forgive me but just what information do you expect we’d gain from his lynch?

2. This is end game, I think it’s silly for us to be ‘lynching for info’ now. We should be lynching to eliminate Mafia.
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (DAY 4)

Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:31 pm Who's mafia, glorf?
I know I’m going to get hammered for this but for all sorts of reasons I’ve already covered, I think your PoE makes the most sense to me. The fact that both TSP and Mac are advocating Creature’s lynch at the moment feels bad. BWT’s vote looks to me like he really doesn’t understand what’s gone on here over this last Day phase.

Not that it makes any difference now, but I’m switching back to TSP. I’d rather lose this game being right than not...
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 4)

Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:05 pm Mac for the recruit?
Given his 180 on Mac after Day 1, seems kinda obvious to me. Great work, my friend :bighug:
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 4)

Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:39 pm I'll do some interactive analysis later on. I have a feeling I won't be around for Day 5 now, so I need to get this done before the sun comes up.
There’s a good chance the game is over now. I’ll admit it feels kinda good that it appears I was wrong about Jack..
by Glorfindel
Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
Replies: 1372
Views: 36994

Re: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (NIGHT 4)

MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:57 pm :clap: Good game Mac, that was an unlucky bounce for you and sabie. Sorry to undo you guys at the final minute like that. :mafia:
Shit happens. Was a weird game. I don't know why TSP got lynched but I used all my civ equity trying to defend him when I had no right to.

Glorfindel you were awesome. Best I've ever seen you play.
Thank you, Mac. That means a great deal to me coming from you. I’m sorry you didn’t have a great game yourself - I guess you did stuff Day 1 when you didn’t know you were converted that did some damage to the Mafia Team. As it turns out you WERE awesome while you were one of us.

Thanks to everyone and especially to Sloonei. I felt we connected pretty well right off the bat. You managed to keep me engaged throughout the game and as far as playing with you, this was a dream. Thank you so very much. I’d like to also point out, that in the three and a half years that I’ve been a member of The Syndicate (on and off) this is my very first victory as any alignment. Feels good.

Sorry Jack for suspecting you and thank you for being sufficiently persistent so as to cast doubt in my mind about my suspicions of you.

And above all, HUGE thanks to Jay for hosting this game. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.

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