The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:25 am Hally do you want to real time with me

And by real time I mean talk for a couple posts until it takes me 12 minutes to find the right gif cause I’m an old

im gonna sleep like as soon as im done catching up sorry

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:31 am Hally can you turn into Batgirl and get mad and find mafia. This fluffiness is getting old. We need to kill people.

but i like fluffing

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:31 am Hally can you turn into Batgirl and get mad and find mafia. This fluffiness is getting old. We need to kill people.
i felt sad on hally's behalf at the second sentence

your fluffiness isnt getting old for me hally

my one true fan

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:45 am Despite their pocketing and my eternal love for Hally

I actually don’t hate a mafia read there tbh

rude

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:46 am [VOTE: hally] aubergine

Lord give me strength

smh. seriously

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:32 am Coming around to dyachei being mafia here

wouldn’t go there today. dya is a slow starter as town. they will become obvious town if they are because they’ll start burying wolves. just wait and see

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:39 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:36 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit
Well, at least we know you aren't his buddy.

mindmeld

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:40 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:29 am also i like those reads and agree with most of them. my notable disagreements are that i town lean radishes and tim. probably more so radishes. but i get why you see him as scummy because you don’t know his style. i also think samu has been pretty towny
yeah i have zero frame of reference for radishes style, but a lot of people are tr'ing him off of meta so i'm willing to listen. i just dont see a reason to tr him yet

also i like the way u responded to me fos'ing u. hm

radishes has like a too cool for school attitude sometimes. and it can come off as scummy if you don’t know him. like some ppl scum read him in sf2 because he spent the first part of D1 slacking and just kinda making jokes and not being invested. but i still tr’d him because i know that’s just how he is

i think he has towny posts though, like about being cautious of clearing too many ppl. idk i caught him easily when he was scum but i don’t feel that atm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:49 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:48 am Heeeeeeeeeyyyyy... you tricked me!

HE’S BACK

ILY GOAT FRIEND

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:49 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:48 am Heeeeeeeeeyyyyy... you tricked me!

HE’S BACK

ILY GOAT FRIEND

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:54 am Hally is playing more like g8 and less like jack attack and whatever the other game we’ve played was

this isn’t true tbh i’m playing nothing like any of those games

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:59 am Wait till you get to my scumread

i did and am displeased but also don’t care

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:01 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:31 am Hally can you turn into Batgirl and get mad and find mafia. This fluffiness is getting old. We need to kill people.
but i like fluffing
I more meant generally not specifically you. At some point we have to crack some eggs.

i may start playing more seriously tomorrow because being scum read when i’m actually town peeves me. i wanna exit the poe entirely so i can get nk’d before finals start

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:17 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:23 pm [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Real wagons only.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine
sad!

not as sad as your mafia role card

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:17 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:54 am Hally is playing more like g8 and less like jack attack and whatever the other game we’ve played was
this isn’t true tbh i’m playing nothing like any of those games
Looks closer to g8 than the town games I've seen /shrug

tbh i think i’m closest to my early game anni play where i was town but you weren’t in that nightmare and i don’t expect you to look it up

i’ll town clear myself soon enough dw

ok i have to sleep i’m so tired here have a list

town:
mac
tutuu
alison

town lean:
odd
tim
spf
dizzy
wilgy
poison
radishes
dya
herm
samu

idk/poe/whatever:
nanook
nut
ted
sprit
colin
fallen/jules
lc
jpic

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:22 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:54 am Hally is playing more like g8 and less like jack attack and whatever the other game we’ve played was
I tend to agree but maybe it's just bias because they're pretty much just catchup posting

which tbf I've been doing a lot of as well but I at least had a good chunk of realtiming earlier

but yeah they feel sorta detached

well i’ve also been brain dead tired for this entire catchup but this is an excuse tbf

i will be townier tomorrow maybe but it’s hard to care about a game this big. i’m not really used to games with more than 17 players

also i don’t really feel the need to exert myself because i already feel really good about my tr’s and the poe and game state and everything. like alison and mac have this covered lol

i love you all but i literally have to sleep

okay i caught up. so like, i’m really still having a hard time caring about this game. i think because alison and mac are doing all the work. they’re lock town to me and i trust that their combined reads are good and i mindmeld on a lot of them. so i’m happy with them leading and calling the shots here. and i don’t feel much need to assert myself for as long as that continues to be true

i’m happy nut has a wagon. i don’t think she’s town. the way she’s making reads and responding to the suspicion on her is very off from her town game. i really have no reservations yeeting her today and her wagon looks clean as hell to me. so we should just yeet her. sorry, nut

i don’t get why spf is being sr. i mean, she could be scum? i’m sure her scum game is as good as tutuu says it is. but i don’t see anything scummy from spf at all. i think she’s been pretty towny. and she’s not a player i’m ever going to yeet D1 because when the player list is smaller and she has more content to work with, her insight will be invaluable and i think she’ll clear herself more definitively. so i have zero interest in going there today

jpic is like... i don’t. i don’t really care about sorting him. gth i say town because he’s really letting his teammates down here if scum and i do think scum probably makes some effort here. but jpic isn’t end gaming. he’s either getting yeeted or vig’d or something at some point if he continues to play this way so i think he just self-resolves

i don’t wanna yeet ted today. i don’t know why. i don’t know how to read him. his scum range is really good ime. but he’s actually doing stuff that seems towny so he can stay

i don’t want to yeet jules today either. if what mac is saying about her is true, he’s correct that she isn’t the kind of player you yeet D1. players who don’t bus and can clear themselves off scum flips are self-resolving. and i have no issues with jules’ posts so far. no reason to jump the gun there

if someone wants thoughts on anyone else, just ping me and ask

the only ppl who could be scum on nut are maybe like colin or wilgy? they’re the only two i don’t hard hard hard tr on the wagon. but outside of them i’m pretty sure that’s six town. no reason not to kill that

like, what are scum supposed to do if nut is their teammate and the towniest players itt who all lock town read each other collectively decided to kill her? how can they fight that? i don’t think scum has the thread control rn to do anything about it or try to save nut so it doesn’t worry me

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:14 am @people who still scumread Hally: I don't think wolf Hally comes into the thread and just goes "yep, Alison and Mac have it handled. I'll just sheep everything they say and do." I think they'd feel obligated to try to use their position in the towncore to strongarm people, push narratives and agendas, and generally try to power wolf. It is difficult for me to see Hally getting into a position of being consensus townread and then just doing nothing with it if they were a wolf. It is also difficult for me to see wolf Hally letting power town call all the shots.

Possibly objections to this argument:

a) Maybe Hally wants to quietly kill you at night and take over!

- Not in this threadstate. I'm certain me and Mac will eat lead soon, but when we do, tutuu and ted will step up, and if/when they die, juliets and Master Radishes will. There are too many cleared townies to kill all of them. If Hally is wolf, they have to take control, and they've shown no inclination to do this at any point in time.

b) Maybe Hally is fine with letting you do whatever you want because they're convinced you'll lead town down the wrong path!

I'd like to think they have enough respect for me, Mac and tutuu's town play to at least feel obligated to guard against the possibility that we won't find the solve with such a strong towncore.

ftr this is the entirely correct reading of my play

this is not how i play as scum. as scum i look to dominate the thread and push my own agenda. and i’m more than capable of doing that as scum if i want. i top post every game as scum and can have my way easily. (anyone using g8 as the metric for my scum game should probably stop because that game was not even a good scum game from me because of the circumstances and i will eat you for lunch if i ever rand scum and you think that’s the extent of my range. just saying

)

there is no world where i, as scum, see super lock town alison and super lock town mac dominating the thread and dictating eliminations and don’t actually try to push back at all or at least establish my own thread control for when i nk them. the only time you will ever see me willingly take on a support role like this is when i’m town and trust the town leaders. see sf3 for a good example of that

so yeah, you could say this is wifom but really, what alison is saying here is the best reason to tr me this game

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:15 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:08 am okay i caught up. so like, i’m really still having a hard time caring about this game. i think because alison and mac are doing all the work. they’re lock town to me and i trust that their combined reads are good and i mindmeld on a lot of them. so i’m happy with them leading and calling the shots here. and i don’t feel much need to assert myself for as long as that continues to be true

i’m happy nut has a wagon. i don’t think she’s town. the way she’s making reads and responding to the suspicion on her is very off from her town game. i really have no reservations yeeting her today and her wagon looks clean as hell to me. so we should just yeet her. sorry, nut

i don’t get why spf is being sr. i mean, she could be scum? i’m sure her scum game is as good as tutuu says it is. but i don’t see anything scummy from spf at all. i think she’s been pretty towny. and she’s not a player i’m ever going to yeet D1 because when the player list is smaller and she has more content to work with, her insight will be invaluable and i think she’ll clear herself more definitively. so i have zero interest in going there today

jpic is like... i don’t. i don’t really care about sorting him. gth i say town because he’s really letting his teammates down here if scum and i do think scum probably makes some effort here. but jpic isn’t end gaming. he’s either getting yeeted or vig’d or something at some point if he continues to play this way so i think he just self-resolves

i don’t wanna yeet ted today. i don’t know why. i don’t know how to read him. his scum range is really good ime. but he’s actually doing stuff that seems towny so he can stay

i don’t want to yeet jules today either. if what mac is saying about her is true, he’s correct that she isn’t the kind of player you yeet D1. players who don’t bus and can clear themselves off scum flips are self-resolving. and i have no issues with jules’ posts so far. no reason to jump the gun there

if someone wants thoughts on anyone else, just ping me and ask
I want a Radishes meta read.

i don’t know if i can explain it concisely. basically i feel like when he’s scum he gets into the game awkwardly. whereas when he’s town he has the too cool for school attitude and doesn’t really try to get into the game until he feels like it’s worth it to him. i don’t know if i’m explaining this well, and tbf it’s based on a pretty limited sample size

he also had posts i thought looked towny for him. i can grab them if you want

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:17 am Wow all these compliments I’m getting for my wolf game

I know what’s happening, this is a conspiracy

i mean, you’ve fooled me and others in turbos a lot

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm Secretly I think Sprit may be reading this game better than anyone else.

Or maybe that's not right. But I do think we've reached a critical mass of town clears for such a large game. Red lights are flashing. A breach has occurred in the outer perimeter. The wolves are in.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced the happy bouncy totes adorbs crew of Ali-Hally-Tutuu-friend is entirely clean, or maybe rather that the Just-ted-yos getting pushed are anything but independent townies getting boxed out into mischop territory, but also it's too early to worry about such things and I really just want to put these words on record for future cred.

I think I'm supposed to be good at this game but sometimes I wonder who decided that.

i like this post a lot from radishes

i guess i could read it as “scum trying to subvert the town core” but it doesn’t feel that way to me

it feels like a towny sentiment, like more town cautioning ppl as opposed to scum being nefarious. admittedly though, i’m having trouble putting into words exactly why i read it that way as opposed to the scummy interpretation, but maybe someone else who’s better at words can explain

oh EoD is today? i should probably be able to be here but it’s during my work shift so my attention will probably be divided

also once it gets busy at work i won’t be able to keep up with this anymore and will probably be behind at EoD. so rip. but i should be able to check in

tbh i don’t think i’m voting anyone but nut today anyway, which again, sorry nut especially if i’m wrong

but my tr’s agree with yeeting her and i don’t think she is like town!nut. so this is the best yeet imo

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:45 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:38 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:39 pm Secretly I think Sprit may be reading this game better than anyone else.

Or maybe that's not right. But I do think we've reached a critical mass of town clears for such a large game. Red lights are flashing. A breach has occurred in the outer perimeter. The wolves are in.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced the happy bouncy totes adorbs crew of Ali-Hally-Tutuu-friend is entirely clean, or maybe rather that the Just-ted-yos getting pushed are anything but independent townies getting boxed out into mischop territory, but also it's too early to worry about such things and I really just want to put these words on record for future cred.

I think I'm supposed to be good at this game but sometimes I wonder who decided that.
i like this post a lot from radishes

i guess i could read it as “scum trying to subvert the town core” but it doesn’t feel that way to me

it feels like a towny sentiment, like more town cautioning ppl as opposed to scum being nefarious. admittedly though, i’m having trouble putting into words exactly why i read it that way as opposed to the scummy interpretation, but maybe someone else who’s better at words can explain
I actually commented on this exact post before and said why I found it townie. The way I'd frame it is like this: Radishes is skeptical about how easy the game is, which is a townie attitude. But he's using that attitude to help town be less complacent, and not to undermine the towncore or fracture the trust between players who've found each other.

That's town.

yea! this is a good way to put it! like i feel if he was scum he’d try to subvert things more directly by undermining trust in the town clears or trying to pit ppl against each other but here it’s more of a general word of caution. like he’s okay with it and is letting it happen but he just wants us to keep on our toes

ty for being good at words

also i like how radishes there is advising us not to write off sprit, jpic and ted just because they appear out of the town core or are going against the grain. that’s a super towny mindset. if radishes is scum and those players are town, he doesn’t need to try to prop them up like that. and it doesn’t feel like scum!radishes defending teammates either. i think he’d be more direct if that was his goal. it really just reads like a super towny sentiment

ping me w/ other questions and i’ll thought dump more

it’s just kinda hard to know what to comment on because there’s so much already but if you direct me to a thing or a player you want me to look at i will

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:26 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:24 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:18 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:17 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:11 pm I'm town, not mafia, not rogue. If I was scum there wouldn't even be a towncore I would have destroyed it already.

What I am doing is coasting off of early townreads
didn't you say previous games meta means nothing to you? why should we believe you eaxctly?
*exactly

besides,

what are your current reads?
Nothing much has changed, I'd say timsup, staypositive, nutella and jpic are all on a team together. Jpic looks like a bomb to me
Ohh, I didn't think about bomb in my read but that would fit if he's mafia (I picked up a town role he might be when I read his iso).

jules is probably town for posting this itt

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:41 pm Hally have you locked me town? I looked in your ISO and you didn't lock me town, so you're scum. Logic flawless.

What is your read list? That is my read list regardless of your alignment. \o/

i actually do tr you already. not lock but i do tr you

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:47 pm I literally have no energy for mafia.
Hally's reads are my reads.
Not sorry.

you are now lock town congrats

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 pm Dyachei proper mafia out here

i don’t agree atm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:21 pm [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

can you like, lay out all your reasons for scum reading jules in one post? i’m still not really clear on why you’re so confident in this

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:28 pm No one wishes to follow me on Alison, so I will move to [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

I stand by my opinion of alison still, but I have my own reasons for doing this at the moment.

sprit probably town because what scum decides to sr alison and tutuu? that’s clearly not happening

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:49 pm Has anyone noticed that Tim's reads are garbage surface level nothingburger and he's done nothing to promote them?

yes

he is no longer a tr of mine

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:00 pm
Spoiler: show
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:42 am my ideal wagons are spf vs nutella vs juliets but its fine if u guys dont wanna wagon spf d1 i dont wanna insist

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:46 am cant we like just vig JPIC or something (i still think he's town) instead of wasting a day of wagoning him idk

surely town has KP in a 22 player game so

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:57 am u guys should know that spf is amazing as wolf. she is amazing as town too as proven by her champs games but on em she has like a 54% winrate as mafia last time i checked (which at least imo is huge, i have like 25% winrate as mafia, its rly hard to wolf in those setups) and i remember skimming a few of her games once and like, her tone, her emotions, everything, its all there. like if she is a wolf she wouldnt just roll over and die, just saying!

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:04 am i think not wagoning JPC for 1 day to see if he gets vigged or poisoned or dayvigged has merits but dont wanna insist any more

at least nutella and spf and whoever else are gonna defend themselves and hvae reactions and talk and stuff

while JPIC wont talk, so using our yeet on him is like as if ... like u know ... waste opportuntity to make reads / day play, and ujst convert the yeet into a mechnical vig

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:11 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:10 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:08 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:05 am People say I have done scummy stuff when this is literally what I do as town
can you do something more?

can u empathize with other ppl who find it frustrating how much effort they're putting, while u dont put as much effort and u expect for ppl to correctly townread u?
I am very empathetic to the town cause. I’ve just been trying to have fun
and you made me laugh a lot and i appreciate it

but like multiple ppl have expressed that its not fun anymore, its like u repeat a joke for the 100th time and its not as funny as when u said it on the first time u know?

can u please try making a few reads?

what do u think about nutella and spf?
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:18 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:15 am Your opener wasn't NAI by my standards. It felt performative.
I was going to make that post regardless of alignment
what are your reads on nutella and spf

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:25 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 am jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 am spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:45 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:37 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 am spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum
I have seen nothing from SPF recently that leaves me concerned. Why are you reading SPF as scum?
if i had a dayvig and i shot jpic rn and he flipped town would u still not scumread spf

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:52 am well that was a while ago i decided to call u scum now cuz idk. i think jpic is town and u want my silly friend jpic dead and he town so maybe u mafia or somehging

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 am [VOTE: timsup2nothing] aubergine

like. we should have more than 1 wagon

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:38 am [VOTE: nutella] aubergine someone else push for a cw if u want

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:03 pm Nut-chan can u leave a legacy readslist on all players no need for explanations just rank their nanes
So this whole interaction Tutuu has with JPIC, Nutella, and SPF really rubs me the wrong way.

Why is JPIC suddenly not mafia and suddenly town? He wasn't ever in trouble of getting lynched either as far as i can tell. then we have the transition of them trying to make Tim a counter wagon????
1. I dont think that wouldve ever happened.
2. Why suddenly do we need a counter wagon?

There has to be something alignment indicative within these posts. The way I see it is:

-JPIC is Town and trying to be pocketed by Tutuu for whatever reason
-SPF is Town or Mafia and just happens to be the target for that switch
-Nutella is Mafia with Tutuu and she does a halfhearted Counterwagon but doesnt want to try and get all of the people off of the huge wagon now formed. If it failed it would of course look bad. So she resign to "you should totally legacy read, sucks to be you"
-Nutella is Town and Tutuu is Mafia. Tutuu of course knows this and is trying to buy credit with the counter wagon attempt. "Aw man, I knew she was town" type of situation.

I dont think the last one is likely but I won't discount it.

really i cannot see scum casing tutuu rn and trying to find her teammates. like.... scum can read the room. tutuu is not getting eliminated this game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:10 pm What has Hally done besides meme and catchup? Is there any actual reason to townread her that I’m missing?

literally nothing other than the fact that i wouldn’t play this way as scum in a million years

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 pm what is everyones favorite radiohead album?

in rainbows

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:38 pm oh hey, hally's here. I've missed interacting with them this game

sorry ive been at work rip

but it’s slow now so here i am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:42 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:21 pm [VOTE: juliets] aubergine
can you like, lay out all your reasons for scum reading jules in one post? i’m still not really clear on why you’re so confident in this
she has obvious tmi on me, also perhaps on mac and ted
her reasons for jumping on my wagon were overjustified and extremely weak and all just things that are either nai or town indicative for me
all of her posts have really stilted tone and there are a few other things that felt like potential tmi/weird assumptions
i think literally all of her posts have made me :fry:

ok. i don’t know, i’m not really seeing what you see but i’ll probably yeet her out of guilt if you flip town

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:42 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:00 pm
Spoiler: show
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:42 am my ideal wagons are spf vs nutella vs juliets but its fine if u guys dont wanna wagon spf d1 i dont wanna insist

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:46 am cant we like just vig JPIC or something (i still think he's town) instead of wasting a day of wagoning him idk

surely town has KP in a 22 player game so

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:57 am u guys should know that spf is amazing as wolf. she is amazing as town too as proven by her champs games but on em she has like a 54% winrate as mafia last time i checked (which at least imo is huge, i have like 25% winrate as mafia, its rly hard to wolf in those setups) and i remember skimming a few of her games once and like, her tone, her emotions, everything, its all there. like if she is a wolf she wouldnt just roll over and die, just saying!

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:04 am i think not wagoning JPC for 1 day to see if he gets vigged or poisoned or dayvigged has merits but dont wanna insist any more

at least nutella and spf and whoever else are gonna defend themselves and hvae reactions and talk and stuff

while JPIC wont talk, so using our yeet on him is like as if ... like u know ... waste opportuntity to make reads / day play, and ujst convert the yeet into a mechnical vig

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:11 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:10 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:08 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:05 am People say I have done scummy stuff when this is literally what I do as town
can you do something more?

can u empathize with other ppl who find it frustrating how much effort they're putting, while u dont put as much effort and u expect for ppl to correctly townread u?
I am very empathetic to the town cause. I’ve just been trying to have fun
and you made me laugh a lot and i appreciate it

but like multiple ppl have expressed that its not fun anymore, its like u repeat a joke for the 100th time and its not as funny as when u said it on the first time u know?

can u please try making a few reads?

what do u think about nutella and spf?
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:18 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:15 am Your opener wasn't NAI by my standards. It felt performative.
I was going to make that post regardless of alignment
what are your reads on nutella and spf

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:25 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 am jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town jpic is town

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 am spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:45 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:37 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:33 am spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum spf is scum
I have seen nothing from SPF recently that leaves me concerned. Why are you reading SPF as scum?
if i had a dayvig and i shot jpic rn and he flipped town would u still not scumread spf

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:52 am well that was a while ago i decided to call u scum now cuz idk. i think jpic is town and u want my silly friend jpic dead and he town so maybe u mafia or somehging

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:30 am [VOTE: timsup2nothing] aubergine

like. we should have more than 1 wagon

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:38 am [VOTE: nutella] aubergine someone else push for a cw if u want

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:03 pm Nut-chan can u leave a legacy readslist on all players no need for explanations just rank their nanes
So this whole interaction Tutuu has with JPIC, Nutella, and SPF really rubs me the wrong way.

Why is JPIC suddenly not mafia and suddenly town? He wasn't ever in trouble of getting lynched either as far as i can tell. then we have the transition of them trying to make Tim a counter wagon????
1. I dont think that wouldve ever happened.
2. Why suddenly do we need a counter wagon?

There has to be something alignment indicative within these posts. The way I see it is:

-JPIC is Town and trying to be pocketed by Tutuu for whatever reason
-SPF is Town or Mafia and just happens to be the target for that switch
-Nutella is Mafia with Tutuu and she does a halfhearted Counterwagon but doesnt want to try and get all of the people off of the huge wagon now formed. If it failed it would of course look bad. So she resign to "you should totally legacy read, sucks to be you"
-Nutella is Town and Tutuu is Mafia. Tutuu of course knows this and is trying to buy credit with the counter wagon attempt. "Aw man, I knew she was town" type of situation.

I dont think the last one is likely but I won't discount it.
really i cannot see scum casing tutuu rn and trying to find her teammates. like.... scum can read the room. tutuu is not getting eliminated this game
Conversely, why would town do it? I admit that there is a general sense that townies are more likely to just do pointless things, but there are wolves that know that. Generating content by a push that certainly won't be proven wrong has value from a wolf perspective.

i mean, maybe but it feels genuine to me

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:48 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:49 pm Has anyone noticed that Tim's reads are garbage surface level nothingburger and he's done nothing to promote them?
yes

he is no longer a tr of mine
Bummer.

sorry. just keep doing your thing

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:50 pm don't be sorry, work is necessary

hey what's your read on nanook?

idk my track record of reading nanook is actually terrible. i don’t know that anything he’s done here has been that AI for him? i kinda wanna say he’s town but i have no justification for it and am not prepared to defend that read. i just don’t know if pushing me is the angle he’d take as scum since i’m pretty widely tr but who even knows with him

[mention]nutella[/mention] can you just full claim? i’m not sure there’s any point waiting because your wagon doesn’t seem to be dissipating and we have an hr left

i thought jules saying she read jpic’s iso and came away thinking he had a certain pr was towny because i don’t think scum openly pr hunts itt

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:57 pm it's interesting that very few people are willing to commit to a read on nanook

i mean tbf he isn’t easy to read at all and what he’s done so far this game is not exactly the most readable alignment wise

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:58 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:57 pm it's interesting that very few people are willing to commit to a read on nanook
he thought / still is convinced there are 4 mafia not 5 so thats my reason to townread him otherwise he's pretty hard to read (generally speaking)

i wouldnt clear him for this in particular but you do you

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:56 pm i thought jules saying she read jpic’s iso and came away thinking he had a certain pr was towny because i don’t think scum openly pr hunts itt

[mention]nutella[/mention] what do you think of this? do you think that’s something jules comes out and says itt as scum?

i’m still not feeling it with nut. something is still missing there for me and it just strikes me as off. i’m not really feeling inspired to move off

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