The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:24 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:22 pm Wait a sec.

Is Epi your scum partner, Eva? Is that what's happening now? o:
Let's lynch him and find out!

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Wtf is this

Spew?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:33 pm oh yeah heres the bonding exercise / thought experiment i wanted to start yesterday

@everyone

1. who is your top townread and why
2. of your top townreads reads, which do you agree with most? why? do you trust that read more than you trust your own townread of them?
3. @ your top townread with the reads of theirs that you agree with and disagree with to facilitate working among mutual townreads

im feeling dead inside so im not starting off

i wont be offended if nobody does this, i just thought it was a kinda cool idea

Mfw none of my townreads’ reads really speak to me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:23 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:22 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:17 am I appreciate @MacDougall giving Epi and Juliets all the sarcasm a “Are you town?” “Yes, I am” exchange merits.
In person this is such a winning strategy you can just look at someone for three seconds and know
I hate to break it to you, Tony.
Jack look in to my eyes...
Are you town?

Yes.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:24 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:22 pm Wait a sec.

Is Epi your scum partner, Eva? Is that what's happening now? o:
Let's lynch him and find out!

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Wtf is this
Spew?
Hey this looks familiar
I’m just saying one time someone said I was w w with someone when I was scum and I did and said the exact same thing

Which person is wolfTony in the story you’re telling?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:44 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:24 pm

Let's lynch him and find out!

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Wtf is this
Spew?
Hey this looks familiar
I’m just saying one time someone said I was w w with someone when I was scum and I did and said the exact same thing
Which person is wolfTony in the story you’re telling?
Eva, it’s the game recently when me and Epi were scum and JJJ and like 3 other people decided I was scum basically 4 posts in

I’ve done the same thing recently when I was scum but not the player I was accused of being scum with. Don’t remember the exact game though.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:47 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:48 am 700 posts behind wowee.

Of the players being voted, I could vote Hyena or Nova.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine
Sell me on TSP?

I’m literally voting him as a joke cause last game he claimed that if I try to lynch him, I just be scum.

He didn’t even react.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:49 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:39 am Eh, fuck it. Both Hyena and Dragomir are fairly low, so I'm willing to take out the creep first. Since while I'm pretty damn sure he's one of the people who have been roleplaying their roles like Mac, he's still gross about it.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine
Roleplaying what role? Me?

Oh god. Drago is the subconscious desire to sexually tilt at windmills. I should have known he was just role playing.

LC can join my townreads.

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:39 pm Ok, tried to find some of my pings on iaafr...

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:29 pm btw I'm policy cuddling everybody who picked the second poll option rather than the first

nothing personal, but my God doesn't allow you guys voting the false idol option in polls.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:30 pm btw I'm policy cuddling everybody who picked the second poll option rather than the first

nothing personal, but my personal dirty doesn't allow you guys voting the false idol option in polls.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:30 pmdeity*
Evil players are generally more careful with making their posts look just right; town players usually play looser. This little oops shows the former mindset.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:12 pm alright yea I guess it's obvious

I'm 3p

it's against my wincon to talk about my wincon but it should become obvious at some point
Is this going to bear fruit, or is it just a line?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:20 pmalso I lied I'm not 3p.
Ok... so nothing is going to "become obvious" then?

Possible TMI action pocketing 112.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:54 pm but it rly could just be me mindmelding with 112s personality rather than alignment and not doing so with mac and nutella etc

but uh 112s personality here is like my town personality and the timing of that question of that read on nutella and mac was like

its a question id have already asked in this gamestate if i were in a more tryhard/contentforcey mentality

i don't understand the purpose of 112 saying that thing in the first place
i make posts to psych myself up sometimes like when i actually feel like im gonna have a good town game

idk

i relate to the sentiment and find it towny
This "personality mindmeld" feels like the mother of all waffling backtracky blahs or something. No... It feels like w/w pre-apology. Overcomplicated forced opinion reasons. Why do I dislike it? I'm a little brain-tired from last night but I tried to put it into words.

I'm not continuing this ISO read. It's already making me feel tunnelly. Like I can see the baddie reasons for every post you make now. It's stupid, I don't know you.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:56 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:47 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:48 am 700 posts behind wowee.

Of the players being voted, I could vote Hyena or Nova.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine
Sell me on TSP?
I’m literally voting him as a joke cause last game he claimed that if I try to lynch him, I just be scum.

He didn’t even react.
1) you’re not actively trying to lynch me
2) last game I knew 500 percent that you were scum and I was willing to say stuff to advance that claim — I almost claimed cop and to have red peeked you

Lol you should have.

Lol that is a really scummy post from 112. Like it wouldn’t be scummy coming from me but it’s scummy from them.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:31 pm

this diagram says I'm misreading this game badly somehow, 'cause either nutella is scum or my reads are shit

leaning towards my reads are shit

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
please explain what is happening

you are just reposting our read lists and coming to some conclusions without any explanation

I’m thinking a townie never puts that much effort into saying “I disagree with this other player.”

Looks like the definition of fake effort.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:28 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
please explain what is happening

you are just reposting our read lists and coming to some conclusions without any explanation
I doublechecked my read list against pawn's because I know he's good at reading games, and usually does so fairly truthfully regardless of alignment. His reads agree with mine, and disagree with yours. That says I'm not just playing badly; you're scum.

Most your agreed upon scum are just low posters...

If you take out low end posters it’s just Hyena, which is a pretty universal scumread.

Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:30 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:26 pm can someone with more Eva experience (read: has seen her as town) tell me if these absurd charts are a thing she does as town or not
Evenstar produced very convoluted charts to track ITAs in Dragongard, and had another kind of chart on day 1 of the Mafia Championship Finale. They do appear to progress towards less clutter. Evenstar played town-aligned in both games.

These are both town aligned Eva games?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:36 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:30 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:29 pm What program do you use?
Inspiration

No, that's literally the name of the program.

You know how annoying googling code for Caseware iDea is? You get coding ideas for every language under the sun.

The chart differences are also easily sorted by Syndicate regulars and not.

The case on Nutella is dumb.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:06 pm If you take out low end posters it’s just Hyena, which is a pretty universal scumread.
Hyena is like my top townread lol.

With Pawn.

Eva: My reads don’t match Nutella’s.
Reality: Eva and Nutella disagree on a bunch of players one has experience with and the other does not.

Eva: My reads match Pawn’s.
Reality: Eva and Pawn scumread Hyena and the low posters.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:10 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:05 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:28 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Aight my reads aren't shit except my Iaafr one, Nutella is just scum

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
please explain what is happening

you are just reposting our read lists and coming to some conclusions without any explanation
I doublechecked my read list against pawn's because I know he's good at reading games, and usually does so fairly truthfully regardless of alignment. His reads agree with mine, and disagree with yours. That says I'm not just playing badly; you're scum.
Most your agreed upon scum are just low posters...
I explicitly noted in my list that the null posters are null - until they actually have enough content to read.

I think she was more looking at general trends within the upper end, ie those that are both within the rough null + section and seeing that our people within that range all match up fairly well.

Correction.

Eva: My reads match Pawn’s
Reality: Not fucking even.

Lost my place.

vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:55 pm also this whole thing regardung the charts is like useless

i don't want to shut it down but i really think it's not getting us anywhere

nutella and eva are still both towny to me

Why is Eva townie?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:19 pm Eva may be wrong and tunnely as villager. No one is mafia god.

Sorry for low activity today, work and homesite happened to be both demanding. I am now home and i'll play until i'll fell asleep. Is 8:20 pm btw.

I am but there are god of many things.

Whatever. I think Eva sounds fake. Watch out for her trying to change personas.

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm Jack, my boy

what do you make of post 2156?

I think you color coding a bunch of shit with 7 different colors on D1 makes you look good but I’m already voting Eva so I didn’t read what you actually had to say about her.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:27 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:23 pm Jack, my boy

what do you make of post 2156?
I think you color coding a bunch of shit with 7 different colors on D1 makes you look good but I’m already voting Eva so I didn’t read what you actually had to say about her.
i slapped some colors on two different walls of text like a 1st grader and called it good

Well now you know how to pocket me for future reference.

Is 112 is he or a she? They haven’t filled out their profile and have conflicting avatars.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:09 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:02 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:59 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:54 pm I followed along a bit at work today. Just got home.

I think the biggest takeaway from the Eva/Nute dichotomy is that Jack is probably town. This is good, as I was ready to scumread him for a lacklustre opening to the game. But his angle on Eva/Nute seems way too much effort for a scum to take on a fight that, one presumes, involves one or two town.

Welcome to my town, Jack.
I don't know if I agree. What if he's scum while nute and eva are town and he just wants to look good for shutting down an erroneous case?
What if you're just a scum trying to make me doubt my read? We can play the 'what if' game all day, but (a) scum!Jack is more likely to let two townies go at it; and (b) the manner in which he dismantled Eva's reasoning was insightful and beyond the effort scum tend to put in when angling for future town cred.
Ah benson beat me to it. A) scum jack absolutely would try to pocket me rather than leave the topic alone, B) I disagree, he didn't really put in that much effort (sprit put in more) and even if he did that's within Jack's wolf range.

Lol let me pocket you.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:25 pm Whatever. I think Eva sounds fake. Watch out for her trying to change personas.

[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine
raised eyebrow

Are you even TRing Nutella right now?

Yeah. It’s like entirely meta but yeah.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:12 pm Lmao you guys really hate that Jack read.

I like your Jack read, buddy.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:15 pm Are you people serious?

I missed that the game had started and I have 47 pages to read!?!?!?

Everybody, meet Dom.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:20 pm I’m still at work, so there’s no way I’ll read this tonight.

Summary pls

Creature is obvious town to the point where people are worried there’s TMI among the people townreading him.

Here there be culture clash.

Eva made some nonsense charts and is therefore a wolf.

Hyena’s alignment is a point of contention.

LC has a food truck.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:31 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:31 pm Jimmy has said I can let you guys know that I've requested a replacement for my slot.

NAI, just have RL stress kicking my ass right now and it's making this game feel more like yet another chore to get to and making me grumpy and stressed whenever I am here.

Have fun tho, and thanks for inviting me @MacDougall ! I'd like to come back and try out Syndicate games some other time, I like this place.

My final request is for there to be more thirsty gifs of both Ellen Page and Joseph Gordon Levitt. This is an Inception game, people, get your act TOGETHER.
Oh my goodness he’s in this movie?

It’s the most Christopher Nolan movie ever.

Man, I thought the day ended in 45 minutes but it’s like 1485 minutes.

[mention]Dom[/mention]

You should iso Drago. He was hitting on Eva and it turned out pretty funny.

#scumhunting

Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:59 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:55 pm
Benson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:53 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:50 pm We need to get rid of some players. Too many to keep track of.
Hopefully a bunch of no-voters just get shot at night
Still so far away though.
Ugh. And this is just phase 1. If we're doing inception right every phase should get exponentially longer

We could be stuck in this game for decades!

Pretend votes are a good joke.

Oh fucking hell I’m 30 pages behind. I miss anything important?

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:19 am Man the avatar upload restrictions here suck, this why no one talks to me

TEX AS RAN GERS

My kiddos spontaneously began a chant of “Let’s go Rangers” in the car the other day.

When asked to name their favorite Ranger, my 4 year old replied “Blaze” (the mascot for the University of Texas at Arlington which is at least the same city as the Rangers ballpark).

My 2 year old chimed in “Blaziken” (a pokemon).

Elephant wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:48 am
112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:12 pm the elephant talks like he's secretly a robot wearing a costume.

https://abstract.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/2098822/

This some Rifts lookin shit.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:47 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:53 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:48 pm dude you should've seen Eva yesterday acting like nut town was the most obvious read in the game

and now one of llds alter egos telling her to vote there gets the vote?? with lld being hardly engaged?

Jesus

it's not wolfy but it's lmfao

Good God. I think I'm just gonna locktown read you and swallow all the tinfoil at this point.
This defeated reaction is identical to how she reacted to me (who she was townreading) when I wasn't vibing with her in the finale. She never did that in the WC. She was like a ball of irrational confidence. I think the vulnerability is a purely town trait. I base this on two games of meta. I am Godmac.

Yeah, I don’t remember Eva looking anything but manic bouncy ball in WC1. That’s not why I suspected her but she was never what I’d call frustrated.

Idk. Sample size of 1. I’ll see how the other cases look.

Texas Cloverleaf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:00 pm Yeah, I don’t remember Eva looking anything but manic bouncy ball in WC1. That’s not why I suspected her but she was never what I’d call frustrated.

Idk. Sample size of 1. I’ll see how the other cases look.
Definitely recall some frustration around d3 time once people starting carroting on to her and stopped buying into the conspiracies

Noted.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:35 am wait is this one of those tricks the hosts are playing on us?? is this one of the ~~*unorthodox*~~ elements? is nova a plant?!
Btw anyone think I was onto something here?? He popped in once and dropped assertions that sprit and epi are bad with no explanation. Are we bring incepted? @novaselinenever are you the inceptor???

I haven’t seen a single Nova post. I thought he was a host D0.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:39 am and I'm never lynching 112 day 1 (probably just never tbh).

How'd that work out for you last time bucko?

I’m reporting this post for unnecessary roughness.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:48 pmCould be a 3p

If i knew he was 3p, I’d vote for him but idk what to do with quiet Nova.

Can someone point me at the 112 and Tony cases so I don’t have to read 30 pages.

I started another game, played really hard and died so my mafia brain is kinda shot atm.

Plus I’m supposed to be working.

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:39 am and I'm never lynching 112 day 1 (probably just never tbh).

How'd that work out for you last time bucko?
I’m reporting this post for unnecessary roughness.
Oh he knows I mean it lovingly and with all due admiration.
But I do have some serious concerns about 112's play here feeling similar to wc1. Could be that they just have a style consistent across alignments (and I didn't watch the finale so don't have that data) but I'm wary of trusting them due to past experience.

I could easily sheep your 112 read after you crushed their effigy from specchat during WC1.

I could also easy stay on Eva and see who jumps.

Jack: What should I do?
Mac: Eva is town cause meta.
Jack: That makes sense.
MakotoCloverleaf: No that’s wrong!
Jack: Ooookay. What should I do?
Nutella: 112 is scum cause meta.
Jack: That makes sense.
MakotoBensen: No that’s wrong!
Jack:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:04 pm Jack: What should I do?
Mac: Eva is town cause meta.
Jack: That makes sense.
MakotoCloverleaf: No that’s wrong!
Jack: Ooookay. What should I do?
Nutella: 112 is scum cause meta.
Jack: That makes sense.
MakotoBensen: No that’s wrong!
Jack:

MakotoBensen: No that’s wrong!
Jack: Ffs...

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