The Syndicate

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:42 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:29 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:58 pm What?

No, if you’re scum with Juliets, that makes Mac town. You treated Mac and Juliets differently. You treated the player you suspect (Juliets) better than the player you don’t (Mac).
Ffs Jack! Why can’t you get it through your skull that I WASN’T DEFENDING JULIETS! I was ACCUSING you for doing something suspicious. I don’t believe Mac or Nova are bad. I do suspect Juliets. And at that point I suspected you too. I can’t decide right now if you are civ and tunneling or just fucking bad because you are totally unwilling to open your goddamn mind for a second and try and see it from my viewpoint. Bsjcjjeudbfkzk c

I’m going to spend my last few hours in Ohio with my dad. I’m still going to be checking in occasionally. I’m still working out where I want to put my vote. But I will cast it.
Why don’t you place it on Juliets for safekeeping?
Jack you would find it suspicious if I did or suspicious if I didn’t.

Let’s just see, shall we? [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

That’s the beauty of it from my end.

I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.
Right so either way we lynch juliets

I like to call this “strategy.”

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.
Right so either way we lynch juliets
I like to call this “strategy.”
Tell me why juliets is bad without saying anything about Spacedaisy.

She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.
So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.

It’s cause I mumble sometimes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.
So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.
It’s cause I mumble sometimes.
Some people have a tendency to see the trees instead of the forest. I think you have the tendency to see a single leaf.

Why is Never a better lynch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:03 pm Why is Never a better lynch?
As I see it, the case is no weaker than the one against juliets. I am serious. Then consider how we may project the future of the game given each permutation:

1) civilian Neverwhere
2) mafia Neverwhere
3) civilian juliets
4) mafia juliets

#3 would be a significant loss. Eliminating #1 or #2 would have similar impacts upon the future thread pace and climate apart from the obvious difference in alignment. #4 would be lovely to eliminate if the case is there.

What Never case? Or is that your point?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.
Jay sorry I was doing something else. I think Daisy's reason for voting me is shit but I think it's because she has not played with me as much recently. I think Jack's theory about Daisy is shit because it's clear as day she wan't defending me. I think Daisy is town, I think Jack is bad. I've forgotten who the other person is you asked for my read on.

linki
Don’t stress yourself. Jack’s “strategy” feels snakey to me and I won’t be voting you by the time this poll ends.

Noted.

Go on and vote Mac, Daisy.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

*scribbles aggressively*

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:33 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:27 pm Well, you are dead wrong. You may think I am off but I'm not. I will claim if I have to because it will be very little lost for the civs and very little gain for the mafia if they kill me.
She projected this, and I think it's authentic -- particularly her lack of enthusiasm with the role.

I don’t understand. That’s a great role to have.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm Mac hasn't even been here to respond to JJJ's accusation. That is unfortunate.

Oh well.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella. Among the active players Mac is the best suspect I've got, so sure.

I'm still open to a low poster. I will run out of time in moments.

Cfd Juliets?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:41 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.
What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?
I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.
i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.
I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

You played in FE but whatever.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:43 pm Last chance for me: who will vote Neverwhere?

Over Mac and Nutella? Yeah.

[VOTE: Neverwhere] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:44 pm I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.
Dude that was like FE's whole deal. We drafted roles and those were our claims but we had more secret stuff on the mafia. Wtf dude I thought you had the most detailed game memory

Mafia got secret fake character related claims too.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:50 pm This is the dumbest conversation in EOD history. Is juliets bad or not?
no. and even if she was, we'd need more than 8 minutes to process this claim. she isn't being lynched today.

How long do you need to process claims?

10-12 business days? I hear that’s standard.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:55 pm Instructor just asked me a question I was not listening to, and I managed to b/s an answer.

Lol good.

Mac’s town cause Juliets and Daisy are mafia. Daisy now voting Mac after her for show vote on Juliets and saying she townread Mac. Oh well I tried.

I knew it was Mac all along. I was just testing ya’ll.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:18 pm can you tell I am angry? Mafia makes me so angry these days. I hate the way it is played. I am so angry, I don't even care we got a mafia on day 1. y'all upset me. I am going to cool off.
linki - busser = jay according to daisy

Jay’s not the busser. Daisy’s not the busser.

Just move to different timezones.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:02 pm Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:43 pm What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

That’s what I’m saying too.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:38 am Team Nutella trying to build a counterwagon on a player that gets lynched a lot?

Nother good look for Nutella. Maybe a bad one for Luna.

Mac gives Nova a bunch of grief. Not sure what to make of it. Somebody take a look.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:44 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:43 pm What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.
That’s what I’m saying too.
Awesome. It’s good to finally be on the same page about something. I’m sorry for my frustration with you.

I’m a frustrating guy.

Sorry for suspecting you. Pretty sure you’re town with this flip.

Good sport.

D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:56 pm Is this the fourth straight game to have a D1 scumlynch?

Aside from always sunny, looks like

linkilinki

More evidence Speedchuck is just me without a goatee.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:55 pm D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.
Now we complete the prophecy when I am killed and we lose.

Lol I’m so proud.

Eloh tends to complain a lot. There’s probably a pattern with her complaining about teammate lynches or not.

The only things you’re missing is that the “Mac isn’t getting lynched today” is a shot at Dunya for saying a Daisy lynch wasn’t happening. It wasn’t about Mac at all. And that I was legit just asking if Mac was a low poster in your eyes. I can see how that looks like defense cause he did have 50 posts so “no” but

[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

Gimmie some of your scum games. I’m goong to try to figure you out again.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

Psycho Pass or Hat In Time?

Eloh was town in Gossip Girl? When was she last mafia?

I always suspect Eloh so I only remember her town games where I was mafia.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:51 pm @speedchuck

Psycho Pass or Hat In Time?
The latter.

Haven't seen PP.

Wait what? What was the anime you were telling me to watch when I was telling you to watch Fate while my teammates were being ripped limb from limb in VH?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:23 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:20 pm Jack - really pushes players, came out hard against Daisy and Juliet’s, when almost no one else agreed. Did complete about face around lynch time. I need to reread him, I would have said leaning bad, but I want to reread first.

Jay - seems the same as last game, seems town, but I could be fooled. I’ll stick with town for now.

Juliet’s - seems quieter than usual. I thought she was raked over the coals for a simple joke earlier, but I need to reread her too. Maybe all the grilling over what seemed like a joke to me, put her off a bit.

Linki will answer in a few.

You know, that would be a really good mafia team js.

Morning, Eloh. Hope you’re feeling better.

My only principle is catching wolves

Spoiler: show

Personally, I prefer to sometimes be lynched via cfd than to go no lynch on D5. Or every D1. That’s “back in the day politeness” to me where every game was stacked with powers and incredibly townsided and balanced by the town playing with kid gloves.

Now about them scum games.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:59 am I think LC and niju would be easy targets for mafia. Honestly, I think they are civs who just aren't paying attention to a damn thing. They are the kind of civs this game that keep civs from winning.

I'm going to be working most of today. I'll probably only be back come Day 2

Why do you think they’re civs?

Talkin to myself, apparently.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:14 am sorry, I was getting coffee and what not. I do have to go soon and get to work.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:17 am I want to hear more from chuck today. Are you off your meds man?

I wanna hear the names of some of your recent scumgames.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:13 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:04 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:59 am I think LC and niju would be easy targets for mafia. Honestly, I think they are civs who just aren't paying attention to a damn thing. They are the kind of civs this game that keep civs from winning.

I'm going to be working most of today. I'll probably only be back come Day 2
Why do you think they’re civs?
I think they would be here and paying more attention if they were bad. Niju would be making at least one meaningful post. She would be trying instead of forgetting. I have been in her shoes - civ, busy, and forgetting I am even playing mafia. I have never forgotten I am playing when I am mafia. LC is one of the syndicate's original hard core players. Maybe things have changed for him, but I don't think he would sign up to play and be this lazy if he were bad.

I’ve been hearing since I joined that you have this meta of being more involved as scum. I’ve not seen this pattern from most other players.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:47 am Hello! Sorry for the inactivity, the holiday was rather busy for me and I am also focused on a Hydra game on Bulba. Can someone give me a quick overview of what happened so far? Gracias

We lynched Mac and he was scum. Jay did interactive reads of Mac with everybody.

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