The Syndicate

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:14 pm it was actually so sick i think i solved the whole game

wtf man

Oh yeah me too ya know?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:55 pm Just make everybody act in groupa of three+ players, then each team can throw suspicions at other teams as much as they like

Lol. No.

I wanna be in Epi’s hydra though.

Rob Zombie’s Halloween is pretty hard to watch.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:44 pmGo Nats!

Touchdown!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:28 am @Jackofhearts2005

Your gif is broken.

I’ll do some hunting today. I just wasn’t going to try to make legal cases last night.

Of course, D1 is gone so lol I guess hunting will be more like soul searching and providing a bottom 5 or 3 or whatever the legal number is.

Epi: I'm not going to waste words: 112 is a good candidate to be aligned with Dragomir, and I do not regret my Day 1 vote in the least.

Immediately after

Iaafr: 112 is clear today as far as im concerned

How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:03 am Epi: I'm not going to waste words: 112 is a good candidate to be aligned with Dragomir, and I do not regret my Day 1 vote in the least.

Immediately after

Iaafr: 112 is clear today as far as im concerned
what about your oppinion?

btw if you post gifs please spoiler them for my eyes (i have health real problem with quick moving images, thanks for understanding)

Gut? I wouldn’t clear 112 yet.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:29 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.
yep.. he worked overnight, few good hours the day 1 was still visible.

Early birds and all, I suppose.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:22 pm So you don't see the potential of them being duelling scum wagons?
I do think it's possible, but I still think there are scum on the 112 wagon even in that case.

It really felt like a nudge to see if Drago could be saved - the counter-votes piled up on 112 suddenly and without anyone explaining it.
In the event of that being the case I'd say that there are likely to very few scum on the 112 wagon unless they were stuck there via distancing. If the scum had to choose Dragomir over 112 then they would have mostly jumped off. It's possible that the 112 wagon was initially just scum distancing thinking that there was no chance of the lynch occurring and then all dived off to Dragomir at the absolute last chance.

Can you turn this hypothetical into a specific....list of three or more specific players?

Ugh botched the joke and no edits allowed.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:34 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:29 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.
yep.. he worked overnight, few good hours the day 1 was still visible.
Early birds and all, I suppose.
Can you say it again?

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:27 pm my most desired pool is

{tonystarkprime, creature, novaselinenever, texas cloverleaf}

i know these arent very exciting but they are my highest likelihood scumpool

Yeah, this doesn’t excite me in the least.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:29 pm Looking at the Dragomir voters I'd say that the ones most likely to be teammates are Long Con and Juliets at face value, which is obviously not very helpful.

Cheater!

Wait. They aren’t here.

We only have to be vague about people we can vote for, which I assume means players here.

If not for Epi’s diligence, I wouldn’t know that Eva called me “cheese scum.”

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:31 pm iaafr can you explain why you dropped out altogether?

Anime betrayal. Pay attention.

Ifaar’s assertion that he knew Drago was scum and played with his vote at EOD to try to prompt wolf movement does not seem to match the interactive Epi posted at all.

It’s actually kinda nice I can say stuff like “he might make my bottom 4.”

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm Epi, Eva, Jack, Nova

^contains scum, maybe even more than one

triggered.gif

Why? I townread everyone in this pile except Nova, who I don’t really have a read on.

[mention]Dom[/mention]

It’s not oddly specific. I was scum in a Jay game with flavor claims and we got safeclaims. You were in that game.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:58 am I’m catching up with what’s available but can someone tell me what the flips so far have been? And if there’s any context you think would help — because right now I am — that too.

Drago flipped mafia on the D1 lynch and then half the players disappeared. No nk that we can see.

Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112

[mention]Michelle[/mention]

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:29 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:21 pm ... man, I really wonder what chaos is currently occurring in the other thread

The majority of players just vanished
Did someone die? Multiple someones? Were we announced as having moved or did we just vanish with no explanation?

Are there scum there? Are there scum here? Probably there are scum in both places, but idek what the point of... oh, duh, the voting rules and the power thing, those are relevant. Ok. And the scum are Leo and Co, so... they have to progress through the levels somehow? Did they set this up? Probably there's some limitation on what they can do...

Yeah I got nothing. I super want to see how this shit works behind the scenes.

Given that multiple levels exist and there were three in the movie, I think we can bet that this'll happen again tonight - some of us will move to a new thread, some of us will [whatever happened to the other 13 players]

is there even another thread

there is super probably another thread

that or we're on a ridiculous clock and half of us are dead, but I don't think the GM would do that to us

This is stupid and I should table it for now, I'm just making myself paranoid because "what if we're in here with an 8-man scum team", which... yeah lol not happening
Stop doing that thing where you sow chaos please. There's no evidence of another thread, there's certainly no 8-person scum team in here, there certainly are some scum in here, and anyway it doesn't matter because we have a game to play.

You think Jay invited a bunch of new players for a 30 player game and then killed like 10+ players with no flips on N1?

It’s a reasonable assumption.

Baseless accusation.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?

His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.

Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:46 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:45 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm Epi, Eva, Jack, Nova

^contains scum, maybe even more than one
triggered.gif

Why? I townread everyone in this pile except Nova, who I don’t really have a read on.
That's based on who voted against Drago and who is in this group. I hesitate to be more specific about which ones I'm leaning more towards.

So level one. Cool cool.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.

Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.

You’re wrong because if we don’t say where we’re voting we aren’t going to vote together and mafia will vote together regardless. Hidden vote mechanics are very pro mafia.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?
His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.

Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
when in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)

Today. I barely remember Radish’s D1.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:46 pm jack posted a scum's list, not sure why nobody's calling him on it

Oh yeah? Why is my list a “scum’s list?”

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.

Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.
You’re wrong because if we don’t say where we’re voting we aren’t going to vote together and mafia will vote together regardless. Hidden vote mechanics are very pro mafia.
Not convinced.

Okay but considering a few others said the exact same thing I did, you’re overruled.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:58 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?
His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.

Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
when in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)
Today. I barely remember Radish’s D1.
then you can quote and give me details.

on D1 i was more focused on the interaction between Radishes and Elephant and i came after reading it with town read of radishes and SR on Elephant.

I’m going to finish reading the day and then I’ll give you details. Casing people on the first three pages of an 11 page thread is a poor idea. You could easily iso Radish and take the first 8 or so posts to see what I’m talking about.

Lol 112 just left.

I’m right here, mongrel.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:22 pm I’m right here, mongrel.
bro you have me, who's town, at the bottom of it, along with iaafr who's prolly town as well and MR who is likelier town than not

everyone scummy is in your null tier

gimme a break lol

I don’t have your role card and ifaar seems to be blatantly lying about how he treated Drago.

Case my null list if I should be scumreading these players.

Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:36 pm Lol, Jack launching a smear campaign against me.

The later iirc.

“Poorly worded” implication that Eva was “chaos posting” and therefore scum. Talk about a smear campaign.

We’ve gone over your post on Eva. I didn’t like your post(s) on Epi where he did long interactive isos and came to some sort of conclusion about the alignment of each player. I think they make Epi look really good and since the D1 thread is now gone, those posts are basically allowing me to develop reads on players I paid no attention to D1 or who posted in the 10 or so pages I missed.

Here’s what you have to say about it though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:38 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:35 pm Damn, I'm seeing why Epi has a rep

this is good casework
I can't remember him actually doing this before lol
How do you feel about an scum!Epignosis world?

He's burying the thread in mountains of quotes and if you actually read some of his thoughts on them they're lacking.

I also wasn't a fan of his EoD voting behaviour - he was a counter-wagon for awhile (rather than 112) but never voted for Drago even for self-preservation.

Talk about a smear campaign.

I called your reads level 1 because you admitted they’re basically pure wagonomics and there’s nothing more to say about them. I don’t take it back.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
... Why are Nutella, Creature and Benson in this list? None of them are even here. Do you have access to the old thread somehow, or are you just copying people's night reads?

I had townreads on Nutella and Creature yesterday.

Epi convinced me Benson is town today.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:05 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
... Why are Nutella, Creature and Benson in this list? None of them are even here. Do you have access to the old thread somehow, or are you just copying people's night reads?
LC is here as well. Missing LLD, the Rej replacement, etc. Its just wonky in terms of construction.

It’s supposed to be.

We are literally not allowed to post a rainbow list and it’s right there in the post you’re quoting that the list is incomplete.

Is SHROOP like

BROOOWWRRRR!!!

[mention]Michelle[/mention]

612 and 615 should give you an idea of why I suspect Radishes.

Either my inception DVD or my PS2 is busted. Can’t get past the end of the first dream level right after the train scene.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:35 pm Wait, Tom Berenger is in Inception?

He’s the dad’s friend and Tom Hardy disguises himself as him to trick Killian Murphy

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:21 pm @Jackofhearts2005, I see you lurking there. Got anything to say?

Lol must not have.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:14 pm Is SHROOP like

BROOOWWRRRR!!!
Scott Howard's Rule Of Odd Posts. "Posts with obvious errors caused by editing are more likely made by mafia."

It wasn’t an error. I posted that sentence twice on purpose, same as radishes labeled a bunch of my posts “smear campaign” on purpose.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:16 pm @Michelle

612 and 615 should give you an idea of why I suspect Radishes.
This is not a real reason, this is "look at these posts I think they're bad." Point at actual specific things you thought were "dishonest."

612 is a Radish posts where he quotes a post of mine where I point out a specific thing that I think it dishonest it also provides context for MY post, 615, where I point out a specific thing that I think is dishonest.

Michelle: Tyt answering my question.
Jack: I already did right here.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:48 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:14 pm Is SHROOP like

BROOOWWRRRR!!!
Scott Howard's Rule Of Odd Posts. "Posts with obvious errors caused by editing are more likely made by mafia."
It wasn’t an error. I posted that sentence twice on purpose, same as radishes labeled a bunch of my posts “smear campaign” on purpose.
Sure, fine, whatever. Why did you ignore my earlier question to answer this one?

Probably because I big brain read from the beginning to the end and also forward from my first reaction to the beginning post.

So I’ve read like the first 5 pages and the last 5.

Or I just missed it.

What’s your question?

Repetition is a literary device.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:51 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:16 pm @Michelle

612 and 615 should give you an idea of why I suspect Radishes.
This is not a real reason, this is "look at these posts I think they're bad." Point at actual specific things you thought were "dishonest."

612 is a Radish posts where he quotes a post of mine where I point out a specific thing that I think it dishonest it also provides context for MY post, 615, where I point out a specific thing that I think is dishonest.

Michelle: Tyt answering my question.
Jack: I already did right here.
...I can't ask the followup I wanted to because it's about your read of a specific person and that's banned

... what two other players do you think are of similar scumminess to Nova?
What two other players do you think are of similar scumminess to Epignosis?

Quin and DF. Not even kidding. All three have been basically absent. I will say that Quin tends to stop caring as mafia but he’s going to have a hard time keeping up overall and DF rarely posts regardless of alignment whereas Nova tends to post a lot and often in a town leader role so it’s not exactly the same.

As in not that scummy at all? Nutella and Creature. The later two are meta reads. My read on Epi is more based on his stuff from today.

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