The Syndicate

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:11 pm Triple J makes me nervous...regardless of his alignment.

I feel like too many people are too willing to follow his lead. It's too early to be giving him civ status tbh.

Why ain't you vote yet, homes?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:18 pm Sorry, don't have an example. Day 1 lynches are hard for me.

They're hard for all of us. I have to wonder though why you're mounting resistance to a bandwagon on a player for whom you don't have a read.

I'm going to be in class at EOD, so that might suck. I'll have my laptop though so it could be a'ight.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:28 pmLater follows this up with a “cool under pressure, therefore town” read that Jimmy color coded. (Your yellow but is misread btw. He’s not saying Sloonei got pressure for “wacke,” he’s saying Sloonei got pressure. And he townreads Sloonei for “wacke.”) I disagree with Speed. Sloonei is cool under pressure when he’s scum. That’s practically his scum meta. “Just playing it cool.”

I interpreted it the same way. I just mean I doubt that speedchuck seriously felt the urge to hand Sloonei civilian credit because of "whacke".

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:32 pm “Lynching me” is strong language. Jack has been highly focused on me, but has largely shied away from actually taking a stance. He’s made comments about me, but has not directly suggested anything about my alignment in those comments.

I think it has been pretty clear that he finds you suspicious.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention], tell me about speedchuck immediately.

What this is all telling me is that we should lynch speedchuck.

It would warm my heart if we have finally arrived at the game in which Lunachuck are a unified item of mafia evil.

I will resist the urge to draw premature connections though.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:41 pm What this is all telling me is that we should lynch speedchuck.

I'm pretty sure I could tell you that it's raining here and you would hear "lynch speedchuck" somehow

I haven't seen anything civilian in any of your posts. It's a problem.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:54 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:49 pm Nova seems to know what he's doing, I'll join him on his vote.

This is what serious business mafia players like me call “lolcatting.”

In the S2 Championship on MU, when I knew my mafia self was getting lynched, I put up a huge B/S ISO post on some rando and filled it with links to his posts lolcats. They didn't even notice and took me seriously.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 pm Bwahahaha. Tell me you got away with it.

I still got lynched, but they thought I was distancing with the rando and mislynched him. So my team won.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 pm The devil takes many colors and shapes
Walking through hell
Pull the shutters for damnation is near
Won't ya come and help me Lord

Love that song album.

Okay so maybe I should start doing some teammate analyses.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:32 pmive always been a late voter and im still not quite used to changeable votes. Before my hiatus changeable votes were a rarity. Seems like now its the norm.

Leaning any particular direction as of this very instant?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:39 pm [VOTE: Luna] aubergine

I need to know why. My entire body is exploding in euphoric tingles in anticipation.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention], I summon you to answer to these charges.

Current comfort level on speedchuck wagon:

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:09 pm you normally feel this comfy on a day one lynch train?

Nope. I believe my suspect has conceded though, so I feel pretty decent today.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:18 pm interesting. So do you think any of the speedchuck voters are team mates of his looking for some sweet sweet civ cred?

It's certainly a possibility. When time permits I will do proper digging on that front.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:19 pm Why do you believe this?

He's been here all day while numerous people have voiced numerous suspicions of him. His most recent post history looks quite resigned.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:21 pmI don't have the energy to be the townchuck you want me to be.

I don't care about the townchuck I want you to be. I can't imagine you've been the townchuck you want you to be.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:22 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:21 pmI don't have the energy to be the townchuck you want me to be.

I don't care about the townchuck I want you to be. I can't imagine you've been the townchuck you want you to be.

I can't help your lack of imagination.

Yeah this is crap. Get lynched.

I've given you 1,000 avenues to change my mind, and instead I get this junk.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:25 pm Just now at work

“Jack, are you tired or do you have an eye infection or what?”

I can’t imagine what Jay looks like atm.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:35 pmSame to you, sweet cheeks. I've been trying not to get pissed or anything, but cutting out your "speedchuck gets held to a higher standard all game" quote and leaving behind "I've been giving you so many avenues" is just delusional and ridiculous.

At least I won't be held to that standard after this game.

There is exactly zero reason that should demotivate you. It's a commendation of your skill in the mafia alignment. Am I supposed to give you a pass if I don't think you look like a civilian? What do you expect?

We have a game filled with people providing a better-than-their-norm effort, so anyone who is less motivated than usual stands out like a sore thumb.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:38 pm We have a game filled with people providing a better-than-their-norm effort, so anyone who is less motivated than usual stands out like a sore thumb.

ehh....i think that's faulty reasoning. since when does motivation level decide alignment? I have been an unmotivated civ, baddie, and indy in the past.

That's not my reasoning. Everything is subject to context.

Motivation in a vacuum does not dictate alignment.

Motivation in a specific context where it is characteristic of a game's progression has more meaning.

I just want to make it clear:

[mention]speedchuck[/mention], you are essentially quitting on the game and then blaming me for it.

What am I supposed to do with that?

JJJ: "speedchuck is good at Mafia and should be held to a high standard"

speedchuck: "I quit"

WTF?

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:53 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:46 pm JJJ: "speedchuck is good at Mafia and should be held to a high standard"

speedchuck: "I quit"

WTF?

this is what is confusing me tbh. You say he's good and should be held to a high standard....so his giving up indicates he's bad? Seems like to me if he was so good, he'd try to talk his way out of it, no? giving up might have a different reason behind it is all I mean.

Giving up doesn't indicate he's bad. I stated all of my concrete suspicions in my ISO of him.

I have no idea why he's doing this now regardless of his alignment. It doesn't make sense for a civilian or a mafioso.

I welcome other perspectives about the speedchuck of the present. How do people interpret his conduct over the last few hours?

The alignment ratio is indicated in the OP. 10 civilians and 3 mafia. No independents.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:23 pmI back luna on this. The votes on chuck seem suspicious and I am not even close to certain of chuck's alignment either. From the get-go, JJJ has been saying BS about this player and that player whether is be of their civviness or baddiness. He has been doing whatever he can just to get people to participate. I think that this his vote for chuck and hard go on chuck is the same thing. I don;t think JJJ CARES if chuck si good or bad. I think he just thinks that it will get people working to solve the game. I think JJJ could be indie.

Apart from the indie thing, you're not far off here. Most of the things that I say and do in any Day 0/1 period is intended to generate a productive environment wherein the civilians have a reasonable opportunity to develop reads (both now and into future phases). I am playing the motivator and facilitator roles I described in the linked thread there. I think most successful civilian teams need someone doing these things.

That isn't to say I don't care about speedchuck's alignment though. I do. It isn't imperative to lynch a mafioso on Day 1, and the sky won't be falling if there's a mislynch. A correct lynch is still obviously preferred though, and I am trying my best to promote suspicions that I think are most likely to yield that result.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:32 pmI can actually pick my butt up and spend the last hours of this day hunting like a madman to find the actual scumteam, giving post-mortem verified reads for everyone to follow up on. That would be the right thing to do. Maybe I'll do a little, but I don't have that much time right now. Certainly not enough time to dig my way out of this hole.

There are still 2.5 hours. Anyone in the poll can be lynched. I will consider what you've said, and I hope you do pump out some hunting efforts. You might not think much of your own skill in that arena, but clearly I do not agree with that. I have seen it more than one game (and it doesn't have to be in the form of 800 posts. I know you're not M Plus 7. There are other ways to do good civilian work).

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:38 pm I guess it wasn't too much linki. Anyway....why are you going after chuck specifically, Jay. Why did you choose HIM to be the guinea pig for getting people to participate?

Click here to view guinea pig experimentation information

nova has been one of my bigger civilian reads much of the game. Those who suspect him, do you disagree with any of the points I made in my review of his posts?

It's a lynch I would really need to be sold on. I haven't seen it.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], what is your present read on speedchuck?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 pm I'm back but not for long. Hectic day for me, and I won't be here for the eod

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There he goes, he's already gone

[mention]speedchuck[/mention], just so you know you've already called upon emotion in your explanation of your behavior. So if you're a mafioso and you survive this, it will have been at least partially driven by an appeal to emotion.

I'm in class now. I will have to be more of a watcher through EOD, but I'll still be here.

*sprinkles the salts of suspicion upon the thread as would global 2017 meme sensation saltbae*

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:08 pm Have you ever done these things as mafia? If so, how often?

I've certainly tried with mixed results. It's hard, my man.

*scribbles notes in classroom notebook about immediacy of wagon shift*

Thanks gang for a strong Day 1 effort regardless of the outcome. Finish strong while I am stunted by academics.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:09 pm What even is this Luna wagon

I would prefer you tell me.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:27 pm Well it reminds me of in the socky game when like two or three times sloonei and/or I tried to propose a different lunch and should have stuck with the original/were right the first time. I'm staying on speed. Call it recency bias but I don't like the sudden wagon.

How do you feel about speedchuck's most recent content?

Actually I have to leave right now and I won't be back for EOD. Keep talking you sleepy bastards.