The Syndicate

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention], you didn't do a whole lot as a Chess bad boy and your champion look is looking like your chess bad boy look looked.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:08 pm NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, you didn't do a whole lot as a Chess bad boy and your champion look is looking like your chess bad boy look looked.
I’ve done objectively more this game already tbh so this is a bad read

By raw number I agree. But this thread already has more posts than the entire Chess game did. So proportions

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:09 pm speed bad

Can Papa Jay get the juice? Why sig town? Why speed bad?

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:58 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:43 pm Sloonei, I don't agree with him about S~V~S but if this is not laying the ground work to produce reads what is? I don't understand what you are expecting from him. Can you explain it a little more?
To clarify juliets, does this imply that you view S~V~S as good?
I lean town from what I have seen so far.

Okay. I feel civilianhood from juliets here, not only for this early stance but also for challenging Sloonei on his Radish read.

Someone put memes in this thread and now Jack is going to be useless for the next hour.

Completely irrelevant, but I want to share this glorious discovery. I have long sought the Holy Grail of sandwich theory: finding a sensible means of including a sub as a sandwich but not a hot dog. This would align with intuitions, but logical structure stands in the way. Consider a historical and evolutionary perspective.

I think that we can somewhat safely assume that the sub came before the hot dog, given that a sub can be comprised of anything within a bread loaf (loaves date back millennia). A hot dog specifically features that meat-thing of processed mystery only made possible by modern industrial ingenuity. So it could be that the hot dog is the offspring of the sub.

However, given the American cultural parallel, it seems equally plausible at least that the hot dog is the offspring of the burger -- another meat-thing-emphasized bread food. As such, perhaps the burger and the sub are a sort of *parents* to the hot dog. If so, and if we accept the burger and the sub as sandwiches then surely the hot dog must be too?

Not so fast. Consider the basics of heredity in biology. The offspring inherits half the genes of each parent, and only the *dominant* genes are expressed. Could it be that the sub and the burger both feature a dominant *sandwich* gene and secondary alternative gene(s)? If so, imagine what happens when each of them passes the ALTERNATIVE gene down to the hot dog.

There is no sandwich gene. It is something else entirely. THIS IS IT.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:11 pm He was, probably since he's scum buddy with radish.
Am I correct in summarizing your suspicion that they're connected as:

1) Radish said "baddie"

2) Nanook doesn't think it's worth talking about

?
Yes, also agree re nanook that plus other past gameplay is why I'm scum lean.

What makes Nanook distinct from the other people who pooh-poohed baddie slip theory (e.g. Sloonei, S~V~S, nutella, etc)?

Technically Sloonei isn't and e.g. there, but whatever.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:43 pm What makes me different is that sig thinks a sample size of two is at all meaningful

Not sure what you mean by this

Nanook, what's your read on sig?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:29 pm Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:28 pm Nanook, what's your read on sig?
He’s an idiot

Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

Let's not call each other idiots now, k.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:29 pmthis is blatant bratwurst erasure. sausage has been around a while friendo

Yeah I realized after the fact that I forgot about the German origins, but I think the reasoning holds.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:30 pm Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

Gun to your head, which one

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:39 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:30 pm Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine
Gun to your head, which one
If I had a read on which one I would’ve said it

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:46 pm Jimmaaaaaay, are you town? Can you at least pretend if you aren't? I love you.

I'm a town boy, Dizzy. I was just staring at your posts here and back in Currents when we were both bad to the bone. I found nothing worth saying. You posted lots of gifs. Hello!

Really though DizzBizz, do you suspect Sloonei?

I feel okay about Sloonei now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:49 pm Really though DizzBizz, do you suspect Sloonei?
Yes, but I can't stay up to place my vote there when day starts. Rip.

Wood Love 2 kNow More

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:42 pm quite

I suppose it's right there in the tbqh.

I gave TH a plus because of that snap read of his on Radish. I associate TH with a hunting style that is somewhat unorthodox, and getting rankled by Radish's deep thoughts fits the bill of what I expect. It's not a post that I cared about, and I would suspect most people wouldn't do much of anything with it. TH did. Cool beans.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

also confirming these can be changed

[mention]sprityo[/mention] you weren't an MVP nominee for this!

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:11 pm Oh and my meh read of Jay was based around his first few posts which didn't appear genuine and some gut tone reads. He's looking a wee bit better now, as in I won't pursue it since not much to go off of, but he's one of those players that needs to be watched and if he's alive for to long should probably be lynched

what changed

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:13 pm Is there hammer in this game?

appears not

Ctrl+F "ly"

Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

NANOOK in Inception, civilian

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:32 pm NANOOK in Inception, civilian

I shared this because ~I think~ a few people had expressed that they don't know town Nanook. There's an example. As I look over it now and try to draw comparisons, I find it difficult without needing to reach into barrels of supposition that bore me. Nanook strikes me as the type to approach games with a consistent general personality -- silly, half-engaged, and/or chatty. That applies to him in every game I've seen I think save maybe Chess (but that game was puny). So instead of attempting to play meta I am inclined to just assess Nanook at face value. I don't feel great about his reception of sig's pokes; there's a "he's right but the reason he's right is really dumb" kind of smell wafting from it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pmrainbow

pretty spectacular that your swap preserved alphabetical order

Really though Mac, I draw zero inspiration from calling you an orange boy given that you've done nothing. Show me that I don't have to default.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:43 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:41 pm Really though Mac, I draw zero inspiration from calling you an orange boy given that you've done nothing. Show me that I don't have to default.
In due time you sexy voiced man. If you can help me by giving me an outline of your current thoughts that might give me something to chew on. I am a very busy boy sadly so I'm probably gonna be less dog with a bone than most are acquainted with.

For Mac, horrible sound quality.

The meatiest stuff to dig into when time permits is probably sig vs. Nanook re: the Radish "slip". starts around here or so. Left to their own mortal kombat, they've both emerged looking less than bueno to me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:54 pm Like Nutella is playing what I would expect from her if she tried really hard to mimic her town game.

Or she’s just town.

Like she’s hitting her scumtell a and her towntells.

How do you distinguish between a nutella who wants to look like her town self and a nutella who is her town self?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:56 pm Specifically, Nutella is showing waffles, wim and opportunism.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

It'd be super awesome if you could grab a coupla posts that point you to this perspective and shed further light, brother.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:04 am One waffles and doesn’t show opportunism.

The other shows opportunism and says she’s waffling.

I genuinely don't know which is which in your theory. Them coupla posts should help.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:07 am Can anyone besides me talk about this?

I'd overlooked the "joke" dialogue. Doesn't look like a joke. Valid gripe.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:07 am I think Fancy Mafia Terms are pretty silly for the most part, and I tend to poke fun at people that use them. I also thought the read being put out that sloonei and dizzy were unaligned/not partners was silly. So I made fun of it using Big Fancy Mafia Terms.

In other words, it’s a fucking joke, obviously not a real read, because for it to be a real read I’d have to be stupid and/or completely unaware of the setup.

You went to the trouble of calling it your One Serious Contribution of the day. Not even that was serious?

Oh, "terms". I see with your follow-up posts Nanook.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:11 am So try and lynch me.

Tell me about Michelle.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:12 am Do you guys really take yourselves so seriously that you can’t recognize the difference between a real read and a fairly unsubtle satirical read

Like it obviously wasn’t real, I said so immediately

What even is the benefit of doing that as scum, why not just ride it out

You can say it wasn’t funny, sure, but it was very clearly not serious

I don't care about this tee bee aych. Them juicy reads of your own would help satiate this thirsty cowboy. How do we not have a cowboy emoji?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:15 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:11 am Oh, "terms". I see with your follow-up posts Nanook.
I don't. Can you link?

I thought Nanook had referred to the alleged joke as his one serious thought/contribution/stance/whatever. He called it his quota of serious mafia terms. This references those dumb words like "equity". Nanook doesn't like to say those words and it seems his present suggestion is that their usage was the joke originally (Nanook correct if needed).

I can at least grant I misunderstood him. Whether it was a joke or not is something else. This lends some contextual humor that hadn't been there in my previous interpretation.

I will take this opportunity to say how much I hate it when people say "equity" or "+EV" or "these wagons always _____".

SHADDAP

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:21 am Someone tell me how to post an Imgur gif properly so I can go to bed

Just paste the url into [ img ] [ /img ] tags. No spaces.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:16 am She threw out a nothing hot take and hasn’t been around much. Town Michelle wants it more and has a certain feel to her content that I’m not getting at this point.

Now, I’m never lynching Michelle today. I’m on a threeish game hot streak for reading her correctly and I’m not messing it up because she got busy or something.

I still don't know why you trust me. What meta

Michelle doesn't have much; I like her anyway. She threw out her hot take on tedxtr and expanded shortly thereafter -- you called it nothing [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]. Given the development of the game to that point, I think it was as something as one could reasonably expect it to be. She's doing better at a low post count than most of her post-count-counterparts.

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:31 am Orange, JaggedJimmyJay? I make three posts, and that’s enough to land me in orange instead of neutral gray?

In a way, I guess I see it, what with the diarrhea-of-the-mouth-inducing playstyle you and others prefer. You have offended me, sir, and now I intend to bury myself in the deepest red of your rainbow reads so that I may ignore your demands for more content.

If a post exists, then "gray" is not happening. That's for cowards. Do your thing, and I'll see what I see.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:36 am Michelle seemed a bit townie. So did svs.

All my reads should come with an implied “I don’t truly believe in these because it’s D1 of a multiball game” fwiw

I agree that it makes life harder and makes reads weaker, but the general principles of Mafia still apply to some extent.

I have work to do and Lakers to watch. Keep yelling, nerds

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:26 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:10 pm @sprityo you weren't an MVP nominee for this!
Why the focus on sprit? First and last time you mentioned him before this was in a list where you said you plus'd him (town read?).

Sometimes sprityo is responsive to the ol' motivational sack tap.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:16 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:30 pm *read list*
What make you compelled to town read me at this point exactly? Just curious as I'm just now starting to play for real.
Also can you tell me more about Ted? I've seen people read him town, so why?

I had/have liked your tone. You've seemed like the classic free-flowing post-whatever I'll Make Waves When I Get To It Dyslexicon I most associate with my internal Dyslexicon lexicon. I don't get the impression you're trying to look like something.

I've appreciated ted's barbed, no-nonsense go at the thread. His first move was to shit directly into my very own Corn Flakes. Given that he [to my memory] has not played with me before but has some conception of JaggedJimmyJay gives that motion an emboldened solver look that I like.

Let's have a looksie at this big Jackwagon.

Spoiler: show

Jack votes other than nutella and I. I'll get into her later, there's a whole Jack/nutella Thing to review. Epi's vote is standard fare, and I won't bother interpreting it until I see what he does with any resulting Jack dancing. sprityo's motivation isn't far removed from my own. Pretty much gut stuff; his reads look random. S~V~S's vote looks extremely authentic to me, because she has not likely been around the site to be familiar with Jack's running "unlynchable" gag. Dom's vote exists. There's the only name on the wagon that immediately perturbs me.

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