That's about how much people have listened to me so far, I guess. What do I know, I've played this game like three times.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:35 pmUm no, if you die and flip civ she becomes a red skittle.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:18 pmNeither are you. You're one of my strongest civilian reads. If I die, don't lynch lapluie.
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:36 pm
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:39 pm
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Pretty sure I'm up by one vote.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:40 pm
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AUBERGINE
[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[5] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk
No vote:, Kylemii, sig
[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, MacDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[5] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk
No vote:, Kylemii, sig
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By the way, I still think Wilgy's suspicion of dunya was 100% grade A fake.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm
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Any civilians who contributed to my destruction: I forgive you. You did what you thought was best to progress our team just like I have done, and I cannot fault you for being wrong. We all are most of the time.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:41 pm At this point we don't know which of you goes but it's time for you to say your last words in case it's you.
Some base points:
~ Never lynch the following players: speedchuck, MacDougall, Dragon D. Luffy
~ These are civilian reads, though I would encourage vigilant investigation anyway: nutella, lapluie, Kylemii, gwilikers6, Kenway, Kites
~ I think he looks like a civilian, though my tinfoil is twitching: rundontwalk
~ I think read this guy as a civilian, but he has nonetheless done what I perceive to be a lot of damage to the game. This is not some petulant gripe, this is serious: he has contributed to the worsening climate for dunya, who was an obvious civilian (speedchuck carries on that credit). He has been rigidly confident in his read on me without having lynched a separate mafioso first, meaning he thinks he can snag me without interactive clues. He still hasn't done shit with his exercise. These don't have to make him bad, but if y'all fail to press him on these issues and any other you identify, then you are asking for it.
~ I have no reason to give any of these people civilian credit or otherwise have active suspicion of them: colonialbob, DrWilgy, Iron_Dwarf, Long Con, Marmot, sprityo, Quin
~ My top suspect is DrWilgy. Beyond the fake dunya crap, I also think he's by nature a high-chance don selection. Everybody loves Wilgy and would be pleased to have his unpredictable nonsense on their team with them.
~ USE YOUR DAMNED P.O.E. Make your cases and pursue them with fervor, but do not overestimate your own capacity to see through people. So far it hasn't gone well. Finding the first one is always the hardest part. Rely more on your civilian reads and work together.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:50 pm
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Forgot to say his name.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm ~ I think read this guy as a civilian, but he has nonetheless done what I perceive to be a lot of damage to the game. This is not some petulant gripe, this is serious: he has contributed to the worsening climate for dunya, who was an obvious civilian (speedchuck carries on that credit). He has been rigidly confident in his read on me without having lynched a separate mafioso first, meaning he thinks he can snag me without interactive clues. He still hasn't done shit with his exercise. These don't have to make him bad, but if y'all fail to press him on these issues and any other you identify, then you are asking for it.
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:51 pm
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I also don't care for the late-arriving nutella wagon. Two of the three voters are non-civilian reads, and lapluie is still new to the thread at this point.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pm
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:57 pm
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HOT POTATOES
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:00 pm
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I think they already did. Calm down.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:59 pmLynch this man.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:56 pmYes, you did it once. Congratulations, bravo.
It will remain once this time. I can understand why you'd overestimate your ability to read me with Mountains in mind. You'll learn.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 pm
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If you want anymore legacy snacks, request them now while I'm in purgatory.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:04 pm
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:06 pm
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Does it matter to you which way the plan functions?Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 pmthe way it is, jay dies unless iron dwarf is mafia, I thought the purpose of this plan was to do it the other way around, where Jay only dies if he's mafia
Jay living or dying right now depends only on whether or not it on dwarf is bad, it has nothing to do with his own alignment
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:09 pm
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[mention]DrWilgy[/mention], what was dunya's nefarious agenda?
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:11 pm
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:13 pm
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Controlling in what way, and why does that strike you as a problem?
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:15 pm
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Good night Dragon D. Luffy. It has been lovely playing in this Internet Mafia game with you tonight.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:16 pm
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- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:16 pm
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I know. I'm just inviting requests. Might as well.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:16 pmThat was a joke on how long it takes to tabulate votes and stuff.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:11 pmI already gave a pile of them. If you want specific reads substantiated more, say the names.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:24 pm
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Okay, then if nobody dies the chance of Dwarf being a mafioso skyrockets.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:15 pm yes? the way it was supposed to be would have resulted in no death if you were civ and 1 death if you were mafia. the current setup results in a death in all cases except the case where iron dwarf is mafia. my understanding and approval of the plan was dependant on you being the one in second place with the monk vote.
- Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:31 pm
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He's ready to roll in the upcoming heist. Y'all should join him.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:30 pm It's good to see @ColinIsCool is still around watching the game. Sign up to another game Col.
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- Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:02 am
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Here’s a sneak peek:
I’m a civilian.
- Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:36 am
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Mac, sometimes you say the silliest things. Never change.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:34 am Jay knows he's living, that's why he's still posting. He'll be like "oh yay you guys, sucks Iron Dwarf is a civ" and then nobody will vote for him tomorrow because reasons.
- Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:17 am
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*dives on top in a speedo*
- Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:10 pm
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Yes. Today is a good day to die. ![Hibernate :sleepy:](./images/smilies/smiley-greet023.gif)
![Hibernate :sleepy:](./images/smilies/smiley-greet023.gif)
- Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:44 pm
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*fades into bolivian*
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- Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:48 pm
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Nah. Nobody ever knows what my thesis is seemingly.
dunya and speedchuck both played wonderfully and they deserve a great deal of praise. dunya especially blew up this thread in a way I have never seen before, and it was probably the single best cycle of mafioso play I have observed as a player to this point. Awesome work, and from a player who has loneliness-and-cheesed in the past. Perhaps my theory in some capacity inspired the effort.
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My thesis was never that this is impossible though. It was that it hardly ever happens.
It still hardly ever happens. I am unlikely to overhaul my perspective of the game of Mafia as a result of an outlier. I am already annoyed in advance at the tinfoil mislynches which will follow from this performance in future games. They're coming.
dunya is a very rare exception to a very reliable rule. And for that, she kicked my ass in this Mafia game. I tip the cap.
The replacement was never necessary though.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:00 pm
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In hindsight, I'd say the warning sign I should have given more attention was that it took dunya too long to acknowledge me as a civilian read. It's similar to the Sloonei dynamic wherein it tends to be a two-way when it's real.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:10 pm
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BTW: I apologize to nobody. I was dead wrong about dunya, and I will accept the egg on my face for that.
Otherwise, I was mislynched for suspecting the rest of the mafia team.
Otherwise, I was mislynched for suspecting the rest of the mafia team.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:19 pm
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I don't just mean mislynches of dunya.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:15 pmThey should come. dunya belongs in the Epignosis pantheon of the "NEVER READ AS CIV" people.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:48 pmIt still hardly ever happens. I am unlikely to overhaul my perspective of the game of Mafia as a result of an outlier. I am already annoyed in advance at the tinfoil mislynches which will follow from this performance in future games. They're coming.
I mean mislynches of numerous people who are playing their asses off. Nobody will care anymore.
It's coming.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:21 pm
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Good game indeed to the whole Mafia squad. Y'all endured a lot of pressure, both in the words and in the votes, throughout the game. You squeaked by time and again, and that's the name of the mafia-aligned game. Nobody cares who suspected who. Just get to another day.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:23 pm
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dunya was replaced because of an accidental blurt by me in a private conversation about my general Mafia experience in the present. I said something careless which in a vacuum could have affected her read on me in this game (even though she already knew I was a civilian mechanically), and I informed Jack of my oopsie. They decided on a replacement. I'm not sure that needed to happen, but it's my fault anyway.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:26 pm
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I am sure I will be more vigilant moving forward, even if I am not truly sure I should be. It's a double-edged sword, because greater vigilance can often lead to greater paranoia, and then real civilians are wasting their time fielding stupid suspicions (or worse yet being lynched over them). Indeed that happens much more often than this happens, and I think it causes more civilian losses.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:21 pm Jay, I believe in your thesis tbh. But we should stop giving people easy civ reads whenever they blow a thread. If it happens once a year, that's one game a year that civs are handing to baddies on a plate. It's too much.
Nonetheless, I doubt I will maintain a perfectly Vulcan mindset. Getting one's ass kicked has an effect for better or for worse.
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:54 pm
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It was awesome having y'all around, RYM old timers. I hope you'll stick around a bit and play again, either immediately or soon. You elevate the game!
- Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:51 pm
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The exercise's insight may have been specific to dunya. Epignosis and I were also oft-named, but entering the game that wasn't likely to surprise anyone. dunya though, despite having performed very well in her earliest games on this site, hasn't had enough time to generate much play-based reputation -- and she was still named more than either of us (or anyone else). I probably should have cared more, but yanno. Everything seems clear when the answers are revealed.
- Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:26 pm
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