The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:27 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:15 am what is [reasons]

Remember that time you were insanified?

It has nothing to do with [reasons] but remember that time?

if you're implying what i think you're implying then the thing you're implying is impossible because of [other reasons]

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:56 pmWho would you lynch now
if self-preservation was
was not an issue?

How many Evens
and how many Strex do you
think are remaining?

I think I'd actually be down to lynch inh regardless. I've liked the cases on him and of the players that are still alive I think he's the most likely to be a Strex Armstrong barring second life recruitment possibilities. it's also kind of odd that he hasn't jumped down my throat yet once during this entire very long game.

if we want to lynch an Even Steven, I still would suggest Scotty, maybe even more now than before. or boomslang who based on epignosis' list is the most likely partner for/murderer of Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:25 pmI don’t know what you think i’m Implying, but I don’t think you should read into it. Just know I strongly think you are not Strex at least.

i don't understand at all

Oh yeah? Praytell- what changed?

well... "[reasons]"

i think you're implying something that's not only untrue but should actually be impossible barring very specific and unlikely circumstances

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:44 pm quote=Sloonei post_id=430560 time=1523813859 user_id=405]

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:27 pmARGHHHH

There there, dear Scotty
Those big bad quote brackets can’t
hurt you anymore.

[/quote]
Says you
[/quote]

this is beautiful

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:55 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:25 pmI don’t know what you think i’m Implying, but I don’t think you should read into it. Just know I strongly think you are not Strex at least.

i don't understand at all

Oh yeah? Praytell- what changed?

well... "[reasons]"

i think you're implying something that's not only untrue but should actually be impossible barring very specific and unlikely circumstances

Wait what? Me thinking you Strex is untrue?

no it's true, i just don't understand where the line of reasoning is coming from

would prefer an inh lynch tbh

lame :\

that's a little disappointing, but at least now you can focus on the problem at hand

sorry i didn't put more effort in, id say I'll do better next time but i think this is pretty much just who I am as a person.

huh, cool.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:09 pm Didn’t Golden say that we would be told when a team was eliminated? Or was that just when the game is over?

If the former...we...uh....have 5 Strex members.

*at least

that's a little troubling

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:08 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:07 pmhuh, cool.

So what do we do tomorrow?

are you asking "what will we do" or "what should we do"?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:27 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:08 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:07 pmhuh, cool.

So what do we do tomorrow?

are you asking "what will we do" or "what should we do"?

I’m asking you what you think is our best course of action will be moving forward.

i guess it depends a little on whether strexcorp has truly been eliminated or not

if yes then that means all that's left is the evens, i think unfortunately the most pragmatic decision is to lynch me. considering the fact that like.... basically every player in that PoE pool has become united against me, so I don't see anyone moving past it until after I'm dead.

I'd still put money on it being Scotty, despite what Epi says. I don't trust the way he keeps wavering on me, especially right before when I was about to be lynched.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:31 pm I don’t know whether to feel better or worse about those quiet early days mow that I know what our configuration was.

kinda fucked up that we didn't manage to lynch anyone back then when our tribe was literally 1/3 made up of strexcorp members

it's not really surprising that lorab didn't press the button with that in mind

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:39 pm Does Scotty have a partner?

if scotty has a partner then it has to be boomslang, since we now know it wasn't inh, since the only other living players that could have killed Scotty are me, you, and spacedaisy. unless cross tribe kills are a thing

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:42 pmDo you think Strexcorp has been eliminated?

maybe. 4 per team does seem like a nice and balanced number.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:50 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:39 pm Does Scotty have a partner?

if scotty has a partner then it has to be boomslang, since we now know it wasn't inh, since the only other living players that could have killed Scotty are me, you, and spacedaisy. unless cross tribe kills are a thing

So you trust every remaining Pikachu?

no. that's a little bit overly-simplified.

if scotty is an evil even then that gaurantees there is a mafia within that listed group of players. if we assume 4 per team and that Strex is dead then that means all living Pikachu are cleared of being mafia. But if you and/or spacedaisy killed sprityo then that means there wouldn't necessarily need to be a specific 4th player on either team since all kills would have been accounted for in that way. If epignosis is an evil even and killed sprityo (still seems pretty unlikely?) then that would actually also point to the 4th Even Steven being in that group actually since there were even kills that took place on both tribes

it's good to see you fired up again

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:51 pm it's good to see you fired up again

How do you feel now that I have unequivocally identified your teammate?

well.... I feel a little bit guilty that you're putting so much effort into doing this now when you're probably going to have to start all over again in 72 hours, but at least you seem to be having fun.

i have a suggestion, if anyone's interested

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:19 pm i have a suggestion, if anyone's interested

dude tell me about it

well today seems like one of those days where shit just dies down and no one posts anything cus everyone's made up their mind, and that's fine. It seems inevitable. I need to be lynched for proc of elim purposes

it'd be good to fill this time and space with speculation on who the last baddies are but all of the speculation that's currently being done is being done under the assumption that I'll flip as an Even Steven and is therefore about to be useless.

So I'd suggest/request to anyone who's just bored that they get a head start on speculation regarding other baddie-leftover grouping possibilities? Regardless of your feelings about me and my role in this game, and even if you plan to vote me anyway, it would make me feel a little better about the fate of this game.

or shit dude i guess i could do it

ill have to look at my work schedule

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:51 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:40 pm or shit dude i guess i could do it

ill have to look at my work schedule

If you're not the even we're looking for, it's between Epi and Daisy for me.

If we assume evens are killing even nights, Scotty was killed by them and has been a force against Strex. Unlikely to be either. The end of the Sloonei lynch had me thinking he was good after all. Feeling good about 2.0 also.

Should I be clearing either of the other 2 of being even?

the "other two" being epi and daisy, or sloonei and scotty?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:53 pmNot a bad idea. Why don’t you get us started my man?

don't tell me what to do :[

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:03 pmthe former

no i don't think so

I don't think Sloonei is an even. Like.... He just put a fuckload of energy into analysis on me and potential baddie partners of mine. if he were a baddie then he just would spend the time on that. Like i guess it would be a solid way of seeming like he's doing work but sloonei's been so absent, him making a huge case thing whatever about partners that he knows is actually useless wouldn't be necessary for maintaining any sort of facade. I think he is a civ who legitimately believes I'm bad. No mafia member would go through that amount of effort knowing that it was meaningless.

I think Epignosis is probably clear too based on his actions leading to the lynch of Nutella and Long Con. I haven't actually read this part yet, I guess i've just been kinda assuming it's true.

mmm if Scotty or Epignosis are mafia then that means that categorically at least one of the remaining Cerberus 1.0 must be mafia to account for Scotty's murder, clearing all remaining pikachu1.0s

If spacedaisy or sloonei are mafia then the 4th member could be pretty much anyone, i think?

how come only quin gets to have a dad :/

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:58 pmEven so, we lynch Kyle and we will know for sure if we have another out there or not.

you definitely won't

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:52 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:58 pmEven so, we lynch Kyle and we will know for sure if we have another out there or not.

you definitely won't

well I guess technically you will lol

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:59 am Kylemii:

Who killed sprityo Night 8?

Who killed Scotty Night 2?

You have to answer those questions to get me to move my vote.

okay first of all, I don't have to do anything, Epi. You're going to lynch me regardless, and then you will work together to figure out those two answers for yourselves, and probably succeed, because I believe in you punks. whether you lynch me or don't the result is the same.

secondly i'm already working on figuring those things out you nerd. i can't just solve an endgame on a whim, especially when one of the mafia is gauranteed to be among the hard hitters like you, spacedaisy, sloonei, or scooty, and especially when im basically working alone.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:18 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:07 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:59 am Kylemii:

Who killed sprityo Night 8?

Who killed Scotty Night 2?

You have to answer those questions to get me to move my vote.

okay first of all, I don't have to do anything, Epi. You're going to lynch me regardless, and then you will work together to figure out those two answers for yourselves, and probably succeed, because I believe in you punks. whether you lynch me or don't the result is the same.

secondly i'm already working on figuring those things out you nerd. i can't just solve an endgame on a whim, especially when one of the mafia is gauranteed to be among the hard hitters like you, spacedaisy, sloonei, or scooty, and especially when im basically working alone.

Did I end up voting for you yesterday?

No, I did not.

All you did was ask.

Today, you can't ask. You have to do some work for my vote to move off you.

So yes, to get me to move my vote, you have to do things.

i don't understand why you act like answering the question of "hey please solve the entire game real quick" is like some kind of simple errand like "hey can you grab a carton of milk on the way home", while you wave your single vote around as if it's some suitable reward for climbing mount everest.

and im already working on helping to answer those questions, not so you will change your vote but because those questions are nearly synonymous with asking the question "who's bad". but more importantly because i am going to die today and i want to do as much as i can to steer this game towards the right path, even if my efforts don't ever amount to much i want to make them because... well it's fun i guess.

epi, i want to ask you, regardless of my alignment, do you think this game will go in a positive direction while i'm still alive? half the tribe is so confident that im bad that they're already trying to plot out my teammates. people don't want to dig deep into the conversation of which one of SD, Epi, Scotty, or Sloonei might have killed because I'm here, and it's easier to believe I did a murder than to believe that any of y'all "supertowns" did it.

So either I get lynched today and you guys do better tomorrow or I cobble together some half assed case, all on my own, and somehow get 60% of the living players to listen to me. best case scenario? I end up miraculously being right and causing a mafia to get lynched. worst case scenario i inadvertently push things closer to the bad end and still be the focal point of half the game, again, keeping the 4 aforementioned heavy hitters from really looking into each other and making the hard choices that they need to make.

am i wrong?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:35 amWho does your gut tell you is the killer?

Based on the treatment of the case against me, Scotty. If it's not Scotty then I think it's likely SD and maybe also you? idk.

What are your thoughts on DDL?

wasn't your case was entirely based on a potential tie to me? I actually haven't spent much time or energy paying attention to things players outside of our group of five have said or done recently. i'd have to review him. do you think his behavior regarding my lynch could be indicative or opportunism

DDL was a pikachu 1.0 member so if he's mafia then his only compatible teammates are you or spacedaisy.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:44 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:54 am DDL was a pikachu 1.0 member so if he's mafia then his only compatible teammates are you or spacedaisy.

wut

He said DDL was a pikachu 1.0 member so if he's mafia then his only compatible teammates are you or spacedaisy.

thanx

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:58 pm kyle, when my neck was on the line, I became as invested as I could in finding baddies. Your strategy here seems to be unsubstantiated claims and shrugs. I think you’re bad, and you’re only putting in the bare minimum here to save yourself.

I'm literally not trying to save myself dude, I've been advocating for my own death this whole day phase. I haven't made any unsubstantiated claims all I've done so far is outline the literal limits to who can and can't be mafia based on our PoE and extended PoE.

You seemed nonplussed after the lynch switch yesterday, almost like you knew it would happen, and instead of that lighting a fire under your butt, you’re trying to guilt trip the town into, like, looking elsewhere, man.

what are you even talking about. if you feel guilty isn't that on you? I'm not saying "oh no I have to die now how unfair etc etc" im saying that me dying is the most effective choice for moving the game forward and allowing you punks to get your shit together.

My suggestion is to do some digging in players you seem to not know anything about before we mislynch you. Because right now, comments like

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:51 amI actually haven't spent much time or energy paying attention to things players outside of our group of five have said or done recently. i'd have to review him. do you think his behavior regarding my lynch could be indicative or opportunism

Where you use vaguery to talk about a player and turn the question back towards other people make me want to triple lynch you.

I'm sorry? I asked a reasonable question to Sloonei who spent an hour or something reviewing DDL if he thought the behavior he viewed as bad in a different context might also be bad in a real context. Why wouldn't I ask him that?

Also, where is this whole holier-than-thou attitude coming from?

just cus i don't react to things in the way you would doesn't mean im reacting to them incorrectly

also, hey, you said you'd be willing to get lynched for PoE purposes how is my viewpoint any different than yours other than the fact that I'm actually following through??

ugh it's totally scotty

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:47 pm But who killed Scotty?

I've already responded to this question like 3 times. Scotty's killer, if still alive, would have had to have been within the group of SD, Sloonei, Boomslang, and i think one other person that I don't remember? technically he could have also self targeted. maybe the other one was INH? gth id say his killer/partner's Boomslang.

do you have a reason to trust Scotty aside from the fact that he was killed like 2 months ago?

he has been the most inconsistent in suspecting me, and he's trying to shoehorn me into behaviours that i don't even have. With the way he's acting he seems like he's already aware that I'm going to flip civ.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm also, hey, you said you'd be willing to get lynched for PoE purposes how is my viewpoint any different than yours other than the fact that I'm actually following through??

Says the guy that has waited to place a vote towards the end so that he may save himself.

If you really wanted to follow through like you are alleging, then why not vote yourself?

what are you even talking about dude. I always vote late.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:16 pm Oh and Kyle, I apologize if I'm coming off as antagonistic and/or judgmental- that's not meant to be the case, at any point in the game. I do often forget that people don't play with the same logic that I play with, and it can farkle my frustration pipes.

no of course not lol. I've actually really enjoyed going head to head with you, no matter how this plays out.

also your use of metaphors in particular is enjoyable and often bizarre and I'm thankful for it.

how.... what. where did the siren come from

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm also, hey, you said you'd be willing to get lynched for PoE purposes how is my viewpoint any different than yours other than the fact that I'm actually following through??

Says the guy that has waited to place a vote towards the end so that he may save himself.

If you really wanted to follow through like you are alleging, then why not vote yourself?

what are you even talking about dude. I always vote late.

that's also kind of missing the point. my acknowledging that my death will likely put the game back on track does not mean that my dying is the only way to put it there. lynching an actual even would do just as well.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

what?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:28 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

what?

You clicked the siren button.

Huh??

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:38 pm The vote for Kyle above is kind of a sequel for the last Kyle vote tho.

sequels are always worse than the original :[

what is the purpose of the siren button

i have one request