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- Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:10 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
Are you telling me there are mountains taller than 5000 miles????????
- Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:23 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
meters. got it.
- Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:15 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
I've missed this.
Has everyone checked in yet?
Has everyone checked in yet?
- Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:22 pm
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- Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:23 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
Glorfy and Dom haven't checked in to the thread, Mesk and Spacedaisy haven't voted in the poll but are here.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:05 am
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:12 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
I don't think me or dunya said that during Instant, maybe someone said it on discord.
I think we have multiple terms for things here but the popular ones are "Good Boys" for the uninformed majority and "Bad Boys" for the informed minority.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:13 am
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Oh and, "Wild Boys" is the common term for Indy roles.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:20 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
It's gonna become the new thing. Just you wait.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:17 am ... I have never heard the terms "Good boys" "Bad boys" or "Wild boys" used here. Are you from an alternate reality?
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
Hey Jack quick question, about how does accusing someone of being one of the Good Boyz poke them?
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:25 am
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:49 am
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:51 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
ok I'm gonna ask actually, what's the deal with trust meta
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:12 am
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The whole point of poking is to make someone feel uncomfortable and cause them to react, right?
Well... What kind of reaction can you get by saying you trust someone? What would qualify as a baddie reaction to that.
Looking back I see that Jack asked for Spirityo's reads in the same post so that's probably what he meant by poking actually
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:21 am
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:24 am
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that's a valid point that I hadn't considered.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:18 amMaybe Jack (or any player) wants to see how another player responds to the appearance of trust. Maybe sprityo accepts it unconditionally, maybe he rejects it and throws it back in Jack's face, maybe he is skeptical but open to it, etc. I don't know why Jack has done the things he's done, but I don't think it's a terrible play to announce trust early on. But like I've said already, I'm pretty open to any strategy that encourages activity on Day 1.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:51 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
I'd really like to hear [mention]Mesk514[/mention]'s thoughts on current events. My thoughts are clouded by past meta and I think an outsiders' viewpoint could bring some clarity
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:39 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
Oh, hello. I've been waiting to see how Epig would respond to LC's suspicion. Parts of his response have made me feel better but other parts have made me feel worse. In general any time an accused player (or an accuser) uses hyperbole or mischaracterizes the argument against them, it looks bad to me, and I'm seeing that with Epig rn, homing in on the reference to buddying as a "long term strategy" and claiming that LC knows who the Goods Boyz are because he referred to 3 players as civs. It argues against the words of the case without really fighting the spirit of it
LC... My number #1 priority in any game we're both in is to figure out where he stands. He's a skilled manipulator and scumhunter depending on what his situation requires. He is 8x better than me at everything I believe I'm good at and on some level I think i probably wanna be him when I grow up. LC is absolutely 100% nutsy enough to lead a lynch on day 0 regardless of whether he's town boy or a crime boy.
I'm not sure who else gave opinions on the issue other than you and Quin, I'd have to reread you both to give a good impression
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:39 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
Oh, hello. I've been waiting to see how Epig would respond to LC's suspicion. Parts of his response have made me feel better but other parts have made me feel worse. In general any time an accused player (or an accuser) uses hyperbole or mischaracterizes the argument against them, it looks bad to me, and I'm seeing that with Epig rn, homing in on the reference to buddying as a "long term strategy" and claiming that LC knows who the Goods Boyz are because he referred to 3 players as civs. It argues against the words of the case without really fighting the spirit of it
LC... My number #1 priority in any game we're both in is to figure out where he stands. He's a skilled manipulator and scumhunter depending on what his situation requires. He is 8x better than me at everything I believe I'm good at and on some level I think i probably wanna be him when I grow up. LC is absolutely 100% nutsy enough to lead a lynch on day 0 regardless of whether he's town boy or a crime boy.
I'm not sure who else gave opinions on the issue other than you and Quin, I'd have to reread you both to give a good impression
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:48 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
you made your post while I was making mine, did you expect me to drop everything and respond to you? it's 9 an dude. one thing at a time.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:11 pmI don't like this post. In Pirates mafia (the one and only game I've ever seen Kyle play to this point), he was an active force early in the game. He's been more passive so far in this game, so I prodded him for reads. Five minutes later, he came out with this, absent of content but calling for more content from the newcomer. This post is fluff and an excuse to delay participation in the game.
In the pirates game my day 1 involvement was mostly getting to know new players questions and passively observing the current thread dynamics. I got called out for it and almost got lynched for it like twice. How closely were you reading the game?
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:49 pm
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Yes that is correct DDL is my dad.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:52 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 0]
the implication of this joke is that you're married to sprityoJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:15 amI take it you aren't married, having never poked someone in a nice way.
Also, there is no trust exercise. I was just saying hi.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:55 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
it's 10:53, it was 9:30 when I woke up
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:16 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
whether or not I got lynch is irrelevant, the relevant part is that you should remember how that game went.
name one thing that i made happen during the first day of the pirates game. I asked questions about dogs and I think I cobbled together a read list at some point because I had 3 hours without anything better to do, bcus it was a small game filled with players I'd never met.
My most active decision was maintaining a tied vote on MP late in the day phase
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:22 pm
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Wow???? It hurts to hear someone else say itJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:57 pmKyle didn't make anything happen D1 pirates. He came out good due to his vote but he was fairly passive and focused on meta. Like the kid said, he got called out for it.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:23 pm
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24 hour day phases????????????????????????Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:11 pm On Kyle - Obvious difference in the amount of posts between pirate Mafia and this one, even considering shorter phase lengths and the whole debacle at EoD1. Looks bad at face value, like a baddie who can't insert himself properly but I won't condemn him on that alone. We (or I) don't know where to set the baseline for his civilian game.
His content here isn't really fluff, but his thoughts haven't come together in the thread the way I'd like given the 24 hour day phases. They're not particularly useful to me as they are. I'd like some more elaborated stuff from him soon if he's up to it.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:29 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] or [mention]Sloonei[/mention] or whoever it was who askedEpignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:59 am If Long Con is a civilian, then is most likely means he is genuine in his suspicion of me.
If his suspicion is genuine, then his accusation that I am being deliberate and calculating in my dealings thus far should be one that he can logically explain.
In other words, if I know what I'm doing (i.e., being deliberate in "setting up a long game"), and Long Con is calling me out on that, then he should be able to explain how my actions in the thread so far will benefit my team and me down the road. What is the long game and how am I expecting it to play out?
If he can't answer that, then his suspicion isn't genuine, and he's trying to get a quick and easy Day 1 lynch out of the way.
iirc this is the post that gave me cause for pause, it read as authentic to me but his posts since then have soured me on him due to the hyperboles and strawman arguments
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:52 pm
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wellllll, that was the plan before you interrupted me. now that I know we have 10 hours and not 34 left I intend to get down to it.
but it won't cost me any of my time or energy for you to explain your motivation so I'm fine with you doing that.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:57 pm
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I didn't say he was attacking LC with hyperbole and strawmen I said he was defending himself by turning LC into a strawman.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:03 pm
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Maybe strawman is the wrong word, but I think focusing on the "long game planning aspect" of the argument allows you to ignore the part of the argument where it's actually just really weird to make a positive declaration towards anyone one day 0, or 1 without any kind og motivation behind it. [mention]Epignosis[/mention]
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:09 pm
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trusting people without factual backup is unnatural. it's an aberration. mafia play with facts from the start so it's easier
let's put LC's case aside for a sec, why Cbob? why Mesk?
let's put LC's case aside for a sec, why Cbob? why Mesk?
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:13 pm
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So then is your reasoning for not necessarily having all the facts correct that it stirs the pot regardless and the end justifies the means? [mention]Sloonei[/mention]
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:19 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
So you don't think they're good necessarily... you just said you didn't think you'd vote for them.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:12 pmI didn't say I trusted them.
I already talked about colonialbob and Mesk.
In that post you did imply you trusted Mesk at least a little bit more because she hadn't apparently read the roles, do you have anything to add to that?
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:33 pm
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You had access to more facts about the pirate game than anyone did, is the thing, depending on how closely you followed the game. Still I respect your answer.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:19 pmI'll never have all the facts about a game that I'm playing in, and the best that we can do is make the most of what is observable to us. The more that is observable, the stronger our foundation will be, so I like to make people talk. I like to think that I'm an avid pot stirrer, and my means are in the interest of solving the game, so I certainly feel justified in prodding people.
How do you feel about my vote being on you right now?
I'm.... Honestly not bothered by it. I get early votes in a lot of games I'm in, and it usually leads to me not getting night killed and having more time to figure out who the mafia is.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:41 pm
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I just want to submit as a data point that the new Pokémon game released 3 days ago and according to the in game time log I've played it for almost 35 hours, so that may be an explanation for my being less active
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:49 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
Nutella, does this mean you think LC v Epi is a goose chase?
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:19 pm
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:46 pm
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Epi I have a huge problem with this line of logic because determining people's relationships to each other while also keeping in mind the uncertainty of other people's motivations is *literally* the entire point of this game.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:57 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
if you're mafia for the prescribed reasons then it also stands to reason that the 3 people you interacted with would be more likely to be civ.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:47 pmSo if I assume three people you've interacted with are good to conclude that you are mafia, how'd that be?
Interacting the way you did with any of them would be unusual if you were both wolves would be unusual.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:01 pm
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:10 pm
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:17 pm
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- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:20 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
I have played maybe dozens of games with LC and at least a dozen with Epi.Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:14 pmNot a fan. It looks like he's hiding from the thread again. Kyle hasn't played with a fair number of people before (or at least since he's been on the Syndicate), so there's no real reason for being 'clouded'.
Also every 5 seconds in this post the Mesk mention comes up even though i havent even mentioned him and its driving me crazy
Also, I'm not hiding??? I've been here posting all day.
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:31 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
current events
LC and Epi were the most relevant clouds, you and Sloonei were satellites to that event.
Mesk has formal mafia experience and no preconceived notions about how Epi or LC (or any of us for that matter) play normally and that makes her viewpoint unique and especially valuable because of it.
the mention thing goes away if you
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:42 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
delete the @ symbol before the names
they kind of still are and I think it's a problem
the squeaky wheels were the only wheels at the time
they kind of still are and I think it's a problem
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:43 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
Oh. Epi left. :/
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:48 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
Did Nutella ever respond to the question about Epi/LC?
it's cus I mentioned Mesk early in the post and the quotations change it back into @mesk instead of making into the coding thing with brackets and shit, it happens for all the quotes in the cascade unless you delete the @ symbol
it's cus I mentioned Mesk early in the post and the quotations change it back into @mesk instead of making into the coding thing with brackets and shit, it happens for all the quotes in the cascade unless you delete the @ symbol
- Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:07 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 1]
Can you expand on this link?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:00 pmI think she's more likely bad if Epi is bad and Epi is more likely to be bad if just one of them is.