The Syndicate

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:24 pm I'm actually more suspicious of Spacedaisy right now than Eloh or Juliets. She's added enough to the above finger-pointing to look involved, but seems to just be swaying back and forth with juliet's and dunya's opinions.

linki Kites! you see it too!

I think there is a good chance it is Elo and dunya together, thus my vote wobbling between the two.

And my opinion has not been swayed by either of them. In fact I argued against some of the things said because I think they were flawed reasons.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:47 pm If we are working against 3 mafia members today is MyLo. A mislynch and we lose.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:32 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Probably dunya.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

It looks like you think both Eloh and Dunya would flip town if lynched. We are at mylo I believe? Either way, it does matter who we lynch. I don't want to trade one townie for another just because they seem to be getting tired of the game.

incorrect. What I mean is if I lynch Elo and she flips civ, Im really going to regret not voting dunya.

If I voted dunya and she flips civ, I would be perfectly ok with that for the reasons stated. I would have zero regret.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?

Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:42 pm Has Kites claimed? Just curious.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:46 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:44 pm wait, @Elohcin would your role allow me to get a second lie detect?

See this is a good idea!

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:46 pm Her role forces you to
Use it on the same person two nights in arow

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:47 pm Based on a priority: ACTIONS, ROLES, NOTHING:

Long Con
dunya
Elochin
Spacedaisy
juliets
Lunalee
speedchuck
Kites

linki: Luna's role isn't a night action?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:50 pm It might make Luna predict the same thing two nights in a row. There won't even be 7 players tomorrow.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:53 pm I've focused on roles for like two weeks eight years and don't really know how to read without them. Voting Juliets or Luna or Daisy would go against my very being.

This game is an existential crisis for me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm this is dumb. I'm so tempted to vote kites

Don't you frweking dare

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:00 pm 60 seconds, Luna better not vote

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:01 pm Cool. Whew.

Y'all better figure things out (and there better only be two scum)

Kites wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:30 am

juliets wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 9:06 am I participated yesterday and got pounded unfairly. I likely won't make that mistake again today unless there are several people involved in a discussion. I hope someone will step up and keep the conversation going. @Kites I have defended you twice now, I would appreciate hearing some of your thoughts about where we are.

I wish I had stuck with Eloh now. dunya kind of convinced me + speed doing the last minute reads based on roles (which seemed fake cos it’s been proven roles aren’t alignment indicative and lynching someone for not claiming is a weak reason) made me switch

I hope luna can reveal something good the next day, provided she doesn’t get killed, or that she isn’t bad

Whatever luna says we can’t blindly follow, we must lynch a baddie or we are done

Kites wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:41 pm Unfortunately my role failed tonight. Ugh.

Who did you target btw? I assumed it was Eloh but I remember you asked if I had claimed my alignment. Did you target me instead?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 7:59 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 11:41 pm Unfortunately my role failed tonight. Ugh.

Luna, do you have any details about why it failed? Though I can't say I'm really surprised. The mafia had to either kill you or prevent you from using your power, or you are one of them.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 11:18 am Still no answer from Epignosis.

@Lunalee so have you been guessing number of people to vote every day?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 11:59 am I'm voting Luna. She's been stringing us along with far too zero results. [VOTE: Luna] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 11:38 am We are in MyLo. We have 5 people on the lynch and we know for a fact at least 1 is bad.

Everyone state 2 names they would be most willing to lynch and let's go from there.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:15 pm This is also the first time we've heard someone is "blocked" since nova died. I struggle to believe mafia have decided to forego their block up until Night 7.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:14 pm If roles aren't alignment indicative, why isn't juliets a suspect to you?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:15 pm It's a real occasion for hey nineteen people.

Deacon Blues
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide

You want a name when you lose. We get it. If you are killed, you will receive an invincible account that can post but cannot vote or be targeted by anything. If you ae lynched, however, you’ll be drinking scotch whiskey all night long and dying behind the wheel- that is to say, out of the game. Expanding man, indeed.

Spoiler: show

Pretzel Logic
Where did you get those shoes?

You got them from the guy that got lynched that Day, right? Each Night, you will use the lynched number’s ability. It may not make any sense, but you aren’t joking, son.

Reelin’ in the Years
The things that pass for knowledge, I can’t understand

The weekend at the college might not have turned out like you planned, but there’s something else going down if you’re feeling frisky. Each phase you survive, you reel in one role check, but once you cash in those checks (during any Night), you’ve checked out and accrue no further credits. Stow away the time.

Doctor Wu
Katie tried- I was halfway crucified

Are you with them doctor? Can you hear them doctor? Of course not. Before the poll ends each Day, you may send, through the host, an invitation to someone for your doctoral services. You of course don’t actually protect them, but in exchange for your “services,” you will have control of their Night action the next Night should he or she accept. Oh, and one more thing: If your role gets exposed in any capacity (except your lynch), you will be shown to be a traditional doctor with secrets.

Do it Again
Wheel turning round and round

People often return to their vices, and you make sure that they do. Each Night, you will force someone to vote for the same person he or she voted for the Day before. In addition, that person will be forced to target the same individual he or she targeted the Night before, if any.

Bodhisattva
Can you show me the shine of your japan, the sparkle of your china?

The Bodhisattva is one who has attained Nirvana but sticks around to save others. You protect someone each Night at the expense of your own life and by the shine of your Japan. Won’t you take me by the hand?

Any Major Dude Will Tell You
Any minor world that breaks apart falls together again

If a civilian is lynched, you will offer words of encouragement to everyone through the Host that Night.

Aja
Up on the hill, people never stare- they just don’t care

Invite your guest each Night to join you up on the hill, where no one is staring or caring- there’s only Chinese music and banyan trees. While in your care, your target is too relaxed to carry out any Night action but will be protected from any negativity from anyone with murder on his or her mind.

Kid Charlemagne
On the hill the stuff was laced with kerosene, but yours was kitchen clean

You thought you could turn the world around with LSD, but all the “white men” on the street- cocaine- made you obsolete. Fortunately, there’s gas in the car. Yes, there’s gas in the car. And you still have plenty of supply left. Feed your target a tab each Night, and while that cat’s having a cosmic voyage, only the words in his or her role description are available to him or her the following Day.

Black Cow
I can’t cry anymore while you run around

When you’ve had enough of someone, the Night prior, tell that person to drink a big black cow and get out of here. That person is silenced and may not vote during the next Day phase.

Peg
And when you smile for the camera- you know I’ll love you better!

Smile for the camera. Beautiful. If anyone targets your target at Night, you’ll take some pictures, and from these pin shots, the name of the actor will come back to you. It’s your favorite foreign movie.

Hey Nineteen
That’s ‘Retha Franklin

The Cuervo Gold and the fine Colombian indeed make tonight a wonderful thing, but you’re looking for someone with less experience to share that evening with. You can choose someone who has fewer posts than you at the end of the Day phase, target that person at Night, and enjoy BTSC the rest of the next phase.

Time Out of Mind
Tonight when I chase the dragon, water will change to cherry wine, the silver will turn to gold

One night, when you chase the dragon, you will target someone. If you picked a civilian, the silver will turn to gold, and there will be another Day phase right after the next one. If you went after a mafia member, then the water will change to cherry wine, and there will be two Night phases. Oh, and put a dollar in the kitty.

FM
No static at all

Clarity is key, and that fosters the good times. Each Night, you pick three Steely Dan songs to spin. If the first selection is in the game, it will appear on the front page in its complete form (not including secrets). If not, then the second selection may be. If that one isn’t, we’ll try the third number. If none of them are in the game, that’s too bad. Give her some funked-up music, man.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:20 pm My problem with juliets is how she has treated me specifically, how she had me as her second suspect but didn't have a single reason why I'm bad beyond using Mata as a reason as soon as she was killed. She came in strong about it as soon as Mata died. I also hate how she kept pushing roles to be alignment indicative in this game.

Her frustration with me for suspecting her seemed genuine though. I really hate to make juliets feel like she's not enjoying a game so I feel like an ass if I do and silly if I don't.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:30 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:25 pm
I'm looking closer at the role Juliets claims to have, and it looks like it has to be civ, since I don't think we had any town killers in this game (at most 1 kill per night sort of confirms that).

Unless Epi made all the roles, and then randomized the alignments. Then such a judgment becomes completely moot.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:29 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:20 pm My problem with juliets is how she has treated me specifically, how she had me as her second suspect but didn't have a single reason why I'm bad beyond using Mata as a reason as soon as she was killed. She came in strong about it as soon as Mata died. I also hate how she kept pushing roles to be alignment indicative in this game.

Her frustration with me for suspecting her seemed genuine though. I really hate to make juliets feel like she's not enjoying a game so I feel like an ass if I do and silly if I don't.

I get that you don't trust juliets for the way she's treated you, but that really isn't the best reason to suspect someone. Juliets genuinely suspects you, so of course you might not like the way she's expressed that. I personally don't see a big problem with it, because I suspect you too.

Since when do you suspect me? Defending juliets and shading me in one post reeks of opportunism tbh.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:38 pm Luna's reaction to speed getting lynched looks like TMI in retrospect.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:36 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:30 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:25 pm
I'm looking closer at the role Juliets claims to have, and it looks like it has to be civ, since I don't think we had any town killers in this game (at most 1 kill per night sort of confirms that).

Unless Epi made all the roles, and then randomized the alignments. Then such a judgment becomes completely moot.

sure I guess. That just really wouldn't make much sense though.

Why?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:35 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:32 pm yo @dunya is your role listed in the page 1 post?

No.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 1:03 pm Luna/Kites
Luna/Eloh
Luna/juliets
Kites/Eloh

Those are the teams that are plausible in my head right now. I don't think juliets and Eloh make sense as teammates based on how juliets treated Eloh most of the game and the whole episode where Eloh seemed genuinely offended by something juliets said. I don't think Kites and juliets make sense as teammates either, I can't say off the top of my head why, but if Kites was her teammate I don't think he would made that post where he discredited her role as a fool proof townie indicator. I could see juliets defence of Luna on Day 6 as teammate behavior. Luna fits in most teams. I promise to ISO her before end of day when I get home from work. We are at MyLo now for certain and I suck in these end games and especially with Luna.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 1:05 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:58 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:36 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:30 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:25 pm
I'm looking closer at the role Juliets claims to have, and it looks like it has to be civ, since I don't think we had any town killers in this game (at most 1 kill per night sort of confirms that).

Unless Epi made all the roles, and then randomized the alignments. Then such a judgment becomes completely moot.

sure I guess. That just really wouldn't make much sense though.

Why?

to have a useless role as mafia? It just doesn't make sense. The only use would be to role-claim so you look town.

Role claim so you can last till end game and have a valid excuse why you weren't night killed. That's useless as mafia?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 1:09 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:57 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 12:38 pm Luna's reaction to speed getting lynched looks like TMI in retrospect.

how? I was convinced he was town since night 2

Your unwillingness to say speedchuck is lying about your role when he did the whole role cop episode was weird as hell to me. You were insanified and if he had been mislynched that phase, your handling of him seems like someone who didn't want to be associated with the lynch. That's the TMI I'm talking about. If I had BTSC with speedchuck, role claimed to him, agreed to be insanified through him, then come into the thread and find him claiming a wholly different role for me I would not be saying he misremembered, that's for sure lol.

Kites wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 3:42 pm kinda wish dunya was dead so I didn’t have to go through all of those posts
real talk, I was a bit suspicious of her because I wanted to lynch Eloh and dunya was so hard against it and helped Eloh survive. But reading her posts and her read on Eloh I can now see where she’s coming from, and I think I understand Eloh somewhat better too. All in all I don’t really have much against dunya, not gonna vote her today

Anyways I thought this could be a possible TMI post, I don’t think she’s bad but I will post it anyways because why not

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:45 am holy shit, good job long con!

if there is a vig among us, take mr. ofhearts out immediately. go.

and i'm with speedchuck on this; long con wouldn't lie. he has nothing to gain and everything to lose especially when the claim was made at the start of another night. and if i had an investigative role, i'd out myself when i hit gold with someone if i don't have enough power to case them. i think almost everyone had jack in their town pile. long con certified town.

Long Con had just told us the result and Jack hadn’t even responded with his nonsense yet. Others were somewhat skeptical of this information but dunya goes and calls LC a confirmed civ already. Think she was maybe too certain and quick with that conclusion?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:09 pm I am here y'all. I still have a couple household chores, but I am taking a break so I can talk.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:19 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:14 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:09 pm I am here y'all. I still have a couple household chores, but I am taking a break so I can talk.

Hi! What do you think of the likelihood of a dunya/Long Con/Mac/Jack team?

This is an interesting scenario Luna, based on that quote Kites pulled. I need to ponder (as always).

Kites wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:30 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:08 pm

Kites wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 3:42 pm kinda wish dunya was dead so I didn’t have to go through all of those posts
real talk, I was a bit suspicious of her because I wanted to lynch Eloh and dunya was so hard against it and helped Eloh survive. But reading her posts and her read on Eloh I can now see where she’s coming from, and I think I understand Eloh somewhat better too. All in all I don’t really have much against dunya, not gonna vote her today

Anyways I thought this could be a possible TMI post, I don’t think she’s bad but I will post it anyways because why not

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:45 am holy shit, good job long con!

if there is a vig among us, take mr. ofhearts out immediately. go.

and i'm with speedchuck on this; long con wouldn't lie. he has nothing to gain and everything to lose especially when the claim was made at the start of another night. and if i had an investigative role, i'd out myself when i hit gold with someone if i don't have enough power to case them. i think almost everyone had jack in their town pile. long con certified town.

Long Con had just told us the result and Jack hadn’t even responded with his nonsense yet. Others were somewhat skeptical of this information but dunya goes and calls LC a confirmed civ already. Think she was maybe too certain and quick with that conclusion?

if you assume this to be possible TMI, then you must assume dunya and Long Con as the remaining mafia. Honestly, they are good enough to make that happen.

I must? I don’t see how this would make LC mafia
And like I said I don’t really think dunya is particularly suspicious, I wanted to highlight this post for thoughts and you gave an interesting thought

Was that quote alone enough for a vote? We are at Mylo or Lylo whatever and we gotta think this through carefully. Maybe you’re the baddie here is Eloh or juliets your team mate?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:36 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 4:28 pm I see kites is trying to prove himself worthy of civ status. I know we cannot vote him, but he would have been who I voted for.

My next suspect is Luna (still). Everything about her and her role seems very fishy to me. Tell me if this is correct. I read she wasn't able to even use it til last night and then it was blocked last night. I also read that we have yet to have feedback with the words "blocked."

Juliets would be my deepwolf pick. If she is bad, she deserves a win. She has done well, but I feel like the past few days have been wonky. She got real rigid in her civ reads and then when she was getting too much attention, she started backing off a bit.

linki - at this point it is very difficult to know. The only thing keeping LC out of my POE is the fact that if Mafia pulled off a gambit with LC's claims, then it would have been Jack to do the dirty work since he was more involved and could then be thought of civ the rest of the game. As for dunya. I have a hard time reading her. Her role *sounds* civ...I know, I know...means nothing really. I suppose I could actually lump her in as deepwolf like my thoughts on Jules. I have thought them both to be civ this game. Juliets/Dunya could be w/w. Wouldn't that be something. They did the little heated argument in the thread yesterday that ended in

Yeah Elo the point about "wouldn't it have been Jack doing it" was made earlier and a pretty good point. I just don't know what to think. My head is a scrambled egg. On the Luna suspicions, I would have to read the roles again to see if there is anything with the word "block" who's not already dead. All the roles aren't revealed in the OP though so I'm conscious of that.