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- by MacDougall
- Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:47 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
- Replies: 1372
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:41 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:15 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:26 am
I'm glad my vote provoked some content Sabie.
However here's what I see in it.
Player salad. Hitler tell (mild accuse > play your own devil's advocate > outcome null). Interesting tell (mafia say interesting when they don't want to provoke). Forcing reads just to make the post look more exhaustive. Hell you even felt the need to point out three no shows which looked like an attempt to turn what was a rambling salad into a full game read.
Note to civs: If Sabie flips scum her refusal to offer a read on TSP because she has no meta stands in contrast to the fact that she made a non meta analysis of Creature/Epignosis. Very strong chances of TSP mafia if sabie mafia.
Also what's with picking on Glorfindel who is never Mafia. He subs out when he rolls mafia. It is known.
Anyone want to tell me why we shouldn't lynch Sabie today?
Sabie if you are a civilian I will find you. Just keep pushing past me and finding Mafia. Hot tip, I am obviously a civilian here.
I forgot about this. TSP is Mafia. Lynch it.
And I recruited Jack you’ll never stop us now
I don’t believe you take this argument seriously
Why would you not believe that?
Because it came after arguments about why every other person was mafia
And because I pushed for the Sabie lynch both d1 and d2 and apparently that’s your entire argument for being Town so seems a little disingenuous
I don't understand how that is an answer to whether or not I believe my own point about how Sabie chose not to make a read on you.
Do I need to make an argument that I am town? I don't think so. Scum feel the need to evidence themselves as town more than townies do.
- by MacDougall
- Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:15 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
- Replies: 1372
- Views: 37833
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:09 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:04 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:51 pm
You are like a wolf who has given up.
Who did you vote for the day we lynched Sabie again? I forget.
I think I voted nobody.
Okay...
Were you going somewhere with that?
Yeah I was going to accuse you of failing to be on the right wagon but then I had a change of heart because you are way too obvious to be Mafia.
Sabie was bussed 100%. I award you no credit for casing her D1 before you were recruited and no credit for lynching her D2 when she had more important stuff to do than play mafia.
I do not bus. It is not how I play as a wolf. I never bus in this situation because a 3 player team has damn near won the game right now.
If I wanted to save Sabie I could have saved Sabie. All I would have had to do is give Sabie a scripted post and then say "oh yeah nah you're def town omg look at you" and nobody would have said shit.
- by MacDougall
- Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:42 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
- Replies: 1372
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:22 am
Recruiting a high volume poster draws in a player that is going to be a lightning for discussion regardless. That player will be more likely than most to say something incriminating against one of their future partners on Day 1. That player will be more likely to draw scrutiny for changes in behavior (since there is more of it observable in the thread) between Days 1 & 2. Recruiting a high volume poster creates lots of variables that can jeopard the mafia team’s internal balance.
Recruiting a quiet or enigmatic player does not come with the same risk. Take Creature for example. He’s a nebulous figure in this game and no one really knows what he’s about. Recruit him and no one will be alarmed when if he does anything odd because, for all we know, that’s just Creature. Recruit Creature because you’re the only player here with in depth knowledge of his meta, and you can spend the whole game telling everybody there’s no way that he’s mafia because this game doesn’t fit his MO.
Yeah, I’m gonna recruit friggin dead weight as a wolf Creature so I can use a meta argument that nobody buys to prevent him from getting lynched unless I get lynched first?
Really? You wouldn't do something unpredictable with the opportunity?
- by MacDougall
- Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:57 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
- Replies: 1372
- Views: 37833
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:54 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:42 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:22 am
Recruiting a high volume poster draws in a player that is going to be a lightning for discussion regardless. That player will be more likely than most to say something incriminating against one of their future partners on Day 1. That player will be more likely to draw scrutiny for changes in behavior (since there is more of it observable in the thread) between Days 1 & 2. Recruiting a high volume poster creates lots of variables that can jeopard the mafia team’s internal balance.
Recruiting a quiet or enigmatic player does not come with the same risk. Take Creature for example. He’s a nebulous figure in this game and no one really knows what he’s about. Recruit him and no one will be alarmed when if he does anything odd because, for all we know, that’s just Creature. Recruit Creature because you’re the only player here with in depth knowledge of his meta, and you can spend the whole game telling everybody there’s no way that he’s mafia because this game doesn’t fit his MO.
Yeah, I’m gonna recruit friggin dead weight as a wolf Creature so I can use a meta argument that nobody buys to prevent him from getting lynched unless I get lynched first?
Really? You wouldn't do something unpredictable with the opportunity?
No. If I get to recruit my whole team, sure. But there are two Ramses mafia. Even if nobody would expect me to recruit Creature, he’d get himself lynched for people thinking he was one of the other two slots. Wifom only works if it can be used to argue that the wolf is a townie.
What has Creature done since day 1 to make you think he is town? I understand that you read his day 1 play as on his civ meta, but in my view his contributions have fallen dramatically, to the point where the justification for your town read should be gone, and yet you still have it. Why?
- by MacDougall
- Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:53 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
- Replies: 1372
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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:51 pm
Mac, TonyStarkPrime, and birdwithteeth were all on Creature instead of TSP.
I provided arguments for why I do not think BWT is mafia. TonyStark was the Master. So either Mac's bad or Tony wanted to bus his partner today. Or I was dead wrong about my bwt analysis. Or... Jack.
But we are also now looking for the recruit. We know that the team performing the recruitment was sabie + tony. Would they have targeted Oreki? Would they have targeted Creature? Would they have targeted Jack?
I think this lynch confirms Glorf even more, and if it doesn't confirm me then I don't know what more you could want.
You can stop now
- by MacDougall
- Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:00 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:57 pm
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Good game Mac, that was an unlucky bounce for you and sabie. Sorry to undo you guys at the final minute like that.
Shit happens. Was a weird game. I don't know why TSP got lynched but I used all my civ equity trying to defend him when I had no right to.
Glorfindel you were awesome. Best I've ever seen you play.
- by MacDougall
- Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:03 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
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I lost btsc with Tony and Sabie or I would have spoken to them before conceding. I weighed up the situation and I didn't have any way of winning so it would have been an exercise in brute force wifoming which probably would have sent me to the doctor for a round of anti depressants afterwards. I couldn't bring myself to it this time.
- by MacDougall
- Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:04 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)
- Replies: 1372
- Views: 37833
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:57 pm
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Good game Mac, that was an unlucky bounce for you and sabie. Sorry to undo you guys at the final minute like that.
I don't know why TSP got lynched
Nicole?
It's a shame because he had the ability to remove votes but being behind in the poll meant he didn't use them I guess.