The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:54 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:49 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:47 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

He had that gross moment where he essentially shat on the lapluie lynch after having previously voted for her.

He called me the indy when it was irrelevant, suggesting he is trying to figure that out -- dunno why a civilian cares outside the context of avoiding a wasted lynch.

He's been present but forgettable.

Mafia thinking behind this series of posts, if you please:

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:46 am The only person with a believable reason to vote jack is Mac

Jay has a poop reason

dizzy didnt even outright say it according to their iso

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:47 am oh yeah, jack only has 5 posts, you guys are really stretching it here. let me look at epi/juliets/inh and see what i think about that cluster

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:55 am epi votes for, as far as i can tell a believable reason, something about juliets not being inquisitive enough or something along the lines

INH kinda rolls with him. like literally just votes right after he does

they seem like best friends

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im giving juliets the benefit of the doubt today. im not voting for juliets

Those posts don't scream civ to me? What are you seeing?

Dude is flinging his views all over and doesn't care. In three posts, he called you credible and said everyone else voting Jack was not credible, he said Jay's view was shit (nice), and said Dyslexicon didn't even post the vote, then defended Jack again and followed up on a promise to examine my vote along with the votes of juliets and INH.

What's the mafia move there if sprityo is bad?

Making posts that don't look bad?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:29 pm 3 min?

Sticking with Epi. I don’t think Sprityo is bad.

Check out the TMI on this guy

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:29 pm 3 min?

Sticking with Epi. I don’t think Sprityo is bad.

Check out the TMI on this guy

Jack by name. Jack by nature.

Well that's shit

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:54 pm I’m starting to suspect Mac.

Is that silly?

I imagine scum Mac is just same old bulldog but barking in all the wrong directions.

It's natural to start to get tinfoily but I assure you that I am a civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:54 pm I’m starting to suspect Mac.

Is that silly?

I imagine scum Mac is just same old bulldog but barking in all the wrong directions.

Feel free to check the most valid comparison and report back.

I do look civvie in that game though, hence why we easily won.

Hey Epi why did you vote for Kyle?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:09 pm Hey Epi why did you vote for Kyle?

Let Seven Nations tell you.

Hey Epi why did you vote for Kyle?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:33 pm @JaggedJimmyJay this isn't a big deal but your rainbows have consistently been all the wrong colors and it's hurting my soul :\ why are you doing this?

Rainbow lists with 12 colors are pointless.

but so pretty

And we wonder why Epi doesn't bother trying.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:47 pm I could lynch one of Mac or JJJ tomorrow. Or whoever moved the thread en masse to sprit

Oh yeah let's just lynch the players actually trying because they fucked up so says the guy who has been blending and doing fuck all most of the game. Get rekt.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:26 pm I swear if many people had their way around here, civilians would never win games.

Day 1- Town lynches Player 1 because Player 2 said he was bad
Day 2 - Town lynches Player 2 because Player 3 said he was wrong
Day 3 - Town lynches Player 3 because Player 4 said he was wrong

Meanwhile the scum nightkill player 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15 and 14 and post nothing.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:40 pm If Epignosis is mafia and wins by playing this way, then I won't care because he'll have forfeit all of his pride in his performance in favor of cheap gimmicks.

Well, I'm not against a cheap win.

Winning's winning

Lolwot

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

It's 2018 bro get with the times.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:46 am [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

It's 2018 bro get with the times.

I'm mad at myself for not seeing this when you saw it.

Meh just make sure he gets lynched. I have a COURT APPEARANCE in the morning and won't be here at EOD.

Scotty is slinging random mud everywhere rather than voting for the guy with a good case against him.

This is what Jay is talking about with the house of cards.

Wolbre being silenced seems likely to have been randomised. Silencing him makes no sense if he is a civ and barely any sense if he is Mafia. So that means the silencer role is highly likely to be one of Dom, INH or Pennywisr. If not this, then he is being silenced by a teammate to give him cred or for wifom.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:37 pm Scotty is slinging random mud everywhere rather than voting for the guy with a good case against him.

This is what Jay is talking about with the house of cards.

Restate the case in your own words, please. You tend to bull around which is great when you're town and you're not bulldozing at town but at least one of those isn't true and I don't know where your head is at besides being pointed in the wrong direction.

Where's your head on everyone but me?

Bulldozing better not stick. I hate it.

I think you knew Epi was a civ and made an opportunistic vote on him. I feel like I have been seeing a fake scum hunting version of Jack all game.

You want me to provide you with a read on every player in the game? That sure is something I ask of civs when I take suspicion off them to try to slip them up. Do you actually think I am Mafia or is this omgus or worse.

ISO Scotty for me please. Do me one analysis and I will consider analysing the player list.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Tone. I always look for your tone.

How eerie. You are talking to a parallel universe version of yourself.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Tone. I always look for your tone.

How eerie. You are talking to a parallel universe version of yourself.

Please explain.

You and Kyle are the same person.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:41 pmSlight town read on:
Kyle

can i plz ask why

Tone. I always look for your tone.

am i shining?

Kyle you have been so under the radar here. Would you pleae do me a courtesy and give me some of your thoughts?

A game in which Long Con is still alive on day 4 is a game that I have rarely seen.

DDL why did you vote for Marmot? Is that one of those teammate distance for cred votes that never get you cred but instead get you lynched for not having the balls to vote on wagon?

Marmot why are you here?

How is Jay on two votes? Tinfoil is real.

Scotty, Jack ... tell me what makes Marmot, Kyle, DDL, Wolbre, Long Con, Juliets, myself and the other one of you more civ than Jay?

Also has anyone heard from Nova?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:09 pm Mac godanmit you can't attack me for voting for Marmot and attack Marmot in the same post.

What is your stance on Marmot anyway?

What? Of course I can. Either or both of you could be bad? What kind of bullshit logic is this?

I agree with your read but I don't see him as vote worthy yet.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:12 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:09 pm Mac godanmit you can't attack me for voting for Marmot and attack Marmot in the same post.

What is your stance on Marmot anyway?

What? Of course I can. Either or both of you could be bad? What kind of bullshit logic is this?

I agree with your read but I don't see him as vote worthy yet.

I'm gonna be the Epi now.

We are here to lynch baddies.

So if someone looks bad.

That's the one and only reason to vote for them.

Epi would be offended at your terrible impersonation.

So Marmot is the scummiest player in the game then? Seems like you have been reading the game rather differently.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:10 pm How is Jay on two votes? Tinfoil is real.

Scotty, Jack ... tell me what makes Marmot, Kyle, DDL, Wolbre, Long Con, Juliets, myself and the other one of you more civ than Jay?

Also has anyone heard from Nova?

Wait

nova is playing this game?

The problem with this game is that Jay is the only one who looks like a civ. I have slight civ reads on Juliets and Kyle, the latter of which I only just got for gut reasons. Everyone else looks scum.

So do better at being civs if you are civs.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pmFiiiiine.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

There's my stance. You've thrown at least 3 bs arguments at townies this game and none of your mountain king routine has done anything to actually lynch anyone bad. I've been pinged by you all game and dismissed it as being too self centered but that doesn't change the fact that I've been pinged by you all game and if I had to stake the game on the next lynch, I'd want you to be it.

Me and everyone else here. This is so fake. Your pings are fake. Get out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pmI'm not waffling on Mac any more than I'm waffling on the state of the stock market. I just don't know. I'm not going back and forth and wringing my hands. There's just no data.

Take a stance. He has plenty of data.

You first, mongrel.



Day 1, you went after Sprityo, me and LC.

Day 2, Avito

Day 3, Sprityo again.

And now back to me.

When I’m dead, you’ll ignore it. Wrong again. Oh well. All the way to victory.

DDL says you’re tunneling but I don’t see it. Just like on Day 1, your argument is full of things you don’t believe and when you get called on it, instead of clarifying, you just say I’m wrong and I’m arguing against a position you didn’t take.

Hard to argue against a case that’s a moving target. And when I push that, you fall back on me not having enough reads, which your continued bullshittery is not helping with.

You already know that of course. Like I said, you’re not out for truth. You’re out for a mislynch.

This is like when you try to use your ultimate spell in a video game without it fully powered up.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:58 pm By your own logic, you must be bad then, eh?

You've made it abundantly clear that you don't understand my logic -- or at least that you don't care to address it.

Does that make me bad, Jim?

The logic itself is what makes you bad. Your inability to understand it would not make you more good or bad. Your failure to address it if you do understand it while instead attacking straw men arguments makes you bad.

So clarify your damn case.

No more “that’s not what I meant.”

Tell me what you mean. Cause at this point, I don’t think you mean anything. Just throwing shade.

You cannot believe this.

Does anyone else actually believe that Jack thinks Jay hasn't explained the case?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:19 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pmFiiiiine.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

There's my stance. You've thrown at least 3 bs arguments at townies this game and none of your mountain king routine has done anything to actually lynch anyone bad. I've been pinged by you all game and dismissed it as being too self centered but that doesn't change the fact that I've been pinged by you all game and if I had to stake the game on the next lynch, I'd want you to be it.

Me and everyone else here. This is so fake. Your pings are fake. Get out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pmI'm not waffling on Mac any more than I'm waffling on the state of the stock market. I just don't know. I'm not going back and forth and wringing my hands. There's just no data.

Take a stance. He has plenty of data.

You first, mongrel.



Day 1, you went after Sprityo, me and LC.

Day 2, Avito

Day 3, Sprityo again.

And now back to me.

When I’m dead, you’ll ignore it. Wrong again. Oh well. All the way to victory.

DDL says you’re tunneling but I don’t see it. Just like on Day 1, your argument is full of things you don’t believe and when you get called on it, instead of clarifying, you just say I’m wrong and I’m arguing against a position you didn’t take.

Hard to argue against a case that’s a moving target. And when I push that, you fall back on me not having enough reads, which your continued bullshittery is not helping with.

You already know that of course. Like I said, you’re not out for truth. You’re out for a mislynch.

This is like when you try to use your ultimate spell in a video game without it fully powered up.

That's exactly what the picture is!

Oh what?

If this day is really going to come down to Jack vs. Jay I don't know how it is a conversation.

Jay had raised valid points against Jack. He raised them first. Jack looked like he had TMI on Epi. Particularly given that Jay decided to utilise Epi's death to uncover this type of evidence, what he found on Jack is compelling. At worst it is a huge civ look because his analysis is logical and sensible.

Jack's case is that Jay's case ... doesn't exist or makes no sense or something? Which is at best showing he isn't actually trying to read the thread because it's the best and most thoughtful case there has been in the game so far.

Lynch Jack and prosper people.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:37 pm Scotty is slinging random mud everywhere rather than voting for the guy with a good case against him.

This is what Jay is talking about with the house of cards.

Restate the case in your own words, please. You tend to bull around which is great when you're town and you're not bulldozing at town but at least one of those isn't true and I don't know where your head is at besides being pointed in the wrong direction.

Where's your head on everyone but me?

Bulldozing better not stick. I hate it.

I think you knew Epi was a civ and made an opportunistic vote on him. I feel like I have been seeing a fake scum hunting version of Jack all game.

You want me to provide you with a read on every player in the game? That sure is something I ask of civs when I take suspicion off them to try to slip them up. Do you actually think I am Mafia or is this omgus or worse.

ISO Scotty for me please. Do me one analysis and I will consider analysing the player list.

Why?

How so?

Coming up.

Did I say I thought you were mafia? Can it be omgus if you don't actually say the other person is mafia or vote for them or anything? I honestly don't know how to read you except as town based on results and shared feelings. We haven't gotten results and we don't share reads. So does that make you bad or just having a bad game? Fuck if I know. I know I'm having a bad game but I've never played with bad you.

No. You are flailing. I am not repeating myself. If you cared you would not ask such asinine questions.

Juliets INH already has Wolbre's vote so vote for Wolbre, Pennywise or Dom. Hell it seems Nova has gone awol now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm This whole "you're going for a mislynch" thing is so bogus. I had Jack as a civilian read 48 hours ago. I don't need to cook up some convoluted plan to make Jack my specific target if I am pursuing a mislynch. My read turned because I don't believe in it anymore.

Again, Epi looked so bad, 3 people said they thought he was the unlynchable mafia member.

Your case is dishonest, just like the one you made against me D1, just like the one you made against Sprityo.

Both Jay and myself have referenced posts. I think Kyle did too. You opportunistically got your vote onto Epi in a way that made you capable of hand waving away your vote in the event of the mislynch that we now know would have happened. The case is not bogus. Stop saying that it is. It is disingenous anti-intellectualism and I will not accept this in the house of Mac.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:31 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 4:37 pm Scotty is slinging random mud everywhere rather than voting for the guy with a good case against him.

This is what Jay is talking about with the house of cards.

Restate the case in your own words, please. You tend to bull around which is great when you're town and you're not bulldozing at town but at least one of those isn't true and I don't know where your head is at besides being pointed in the wrong direction.

Where's your head on everyone but me?

Bulldozing better not stick. I hate it.

I think you knew Epi was a civ and made an opportunistic vote on him. I feel like I have been seeing a fake scum hunting version of Jack all game.

You want me to provide you with a read on every player in the game? That sure is something I ask of civs when I take suspicion off them to try to slip them up. Do you actually think I am Mafia or is this omgus or worse.

ISO Scotty for me please. Do me one analysis and I will consider analysing the player list.

Why?

How so?

Coming up.

Did I say I thought you were mafia? Can it be omgus if you don't actually say the other person is mafia or vote for them or anything? I honestly don't know how to read you except as town based on results and shared feelings. We haven't gotten results and we don't share reads. So does that make you bad or just having a bad game? Fuck if I know. I know I'm having a bad game but I've never played with bad you.

No. You are flailing. I am not repeating myself. If you cared you would not ask such asinine questions.

Okay. I'm off the fence. I think you're bad, too.

If there's one attribute about Jack, it's that I care.

If you care then read the thread instead of asking dumb questions and wasting my time trying to make me repeat myself. That is what I do when I am bad. I recognise the behaviour. It is designed to eventuate in rationalising your fake read. Lookie! You did it!

Of course your only two scum reads are the two players most vocally suspicious of you.

I am done here. It's 7.40am and I have to get ready for the day. If anyone other than Jack is lynched I will be so disappointed.

I'm back. Wasn't jailed.

Show me potato salad

God damn it we are getting fucked on

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 6:32 am Mac, could JJJ be bad? Or am I just tin foiling because of our lynch results?

He could be bad and yes you are tin foiling. He hasn't done anything in this game to trigger me. If he had I'd have gone mental about it by now.

We have been in agreeance all game. That kind of mind meld I have to believe is civ/civ. Either he is town or he is playing a perfect game and pied pipering us to our doom. Do I believe he could do that? Yes. I just don't see the value in throwing the game on a pure tin foil. We lynched scum at lylo three days in a row in Tree Mafia to win. Jay is right that when you get one the rest often fall. If Jay is Mafia we still have three other teammates to find here and if he is civ he has more of this game tracked in his head than anyone. If we lynch Jay tomorrow and he is civ then our chance of winning is astronomically low.

At any rate it should be the easiest day to find scum tomorrow because they have a smaller crowd to hide amongst. I expect a lot of things will click. The hard part will be facilitating a wagon. Jack was lynched today with 3 votes. Assuming we don't hit scum tonight with the vig they could brute force the vote. It is important everyone is vigilant and questions all votes and that any civilians who have time to analyse and case make do so. We cannot afford to let the Mafia get away with easy votes tomorrow. We have to try to make them make very tough vote decisions and we need to have a lot of teamwork.

This means we have to make votes for good reasons. Operate at a high standard and don't allow anyone else to cast lazy votes or make lazy cases. If we hold ourselves to this standard the scum won't be able to get away with cheap play.

My tonsilitis has spread into a full blown upper respiratory tract infection. This sucks balls.

Okay Wolbre who should we lynch then?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:42 pm Yes, after dominating the civilians to a perfect record through five day phases with the finish line so close, only *now* do I become demoralized.

Y’all make no sense.

I don't get what you are trying to say here?

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:44 pm DDL
INH
JJJ
Juliets
Kyle
LC
Mac
Marmot
Nova
Wolbre

Is who we have left.

People I feel are genuine:
Juliets
Kyle
LC

People who idk if they remembered their 1986 MacIntosh Desktop login:
Penny
INH
Nova (Spoilers, I feel like he's about to vanish off the face of the earth again)

People who I am okay with:
DDL
Mac (led town into the fire but less so than JJJ imo)
Marmot (Who?)

People who I think are scum and everyone is giving them a free pass:
JJJ

In order of who I think we need to lynch if we make it thru the night: JJJ, Marmot, Nova, Penny, INH, Mac, DDL from least to most likely.
If we really insist on lynching an inactive, well I guess it's Penny, Inh/Nova tied for second most favorable to lynch. But tbh I think it was just an excuse by jay to get him closer to a victory and then sip his cup of town tears

I don't get what you are trying to say here?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:49 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:45 pm who said "demoralized"

If y’all cannot tell that I am demoralized right now then you need to take lessons on telling when people are demoralized

Literally everything I have done in this game has been wrong. This is the worst I have ever been. I have no idea how to proceed. This is the planet Jupiter.

Spare some of that pity juice for the rest of us please

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:51 pm I understand why I am in this position though. There's no reason to trust me at all beyond vague shit like "tone", and I wouldn't figure anyone would care about that in my case specifically under these conditions.

So the people who are giving me a pass are hard to take seriously. Long Con, DDL, and Mac have not wavered in their trust of me despite my continued pants-on-head failure in this game. I'd figure on two evil-doers in that group at this point.

Well in my defense:

1. You have done nothing suspicious except be wrong
2. I have also been wrong so suspecting you for being wrong is hypocritical as heck
3. I was silenced yesterday and probably would have got my tinfoil on pretty hard if not for that
4. My ability to play here has been affected by bedrest and medication

In respect to point 3 though you still just sound civvie as balls. If you are bad then good day to you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:42 pm Yes, after dominating the civilians to a perfect record through five day phases with the finish line so close, only *now* do I become demoralized.

Y’all make no sense.

I don't get what you are trying to say here?

I have a phone-it-in attitude right now, which is being being called evidence of my being evil, and that makes no sense if I am on the verge of a perfect victory -- or at least considerably less sense than I am demoralized after playing like shit.

I feel the same way with a side of too ill to function