The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:52 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:28 pm Wait Mac i might be remembering it wrong. But I hold that my ability to read Michelle stands. Regardless of the specific tell thing I have referenced, she is obvious lol.

To quoth the nutella:
"Is your bike broken? 'Cause you seem to be back peddlin' awfully fast"

(Nutella, 201?, The Piano, Unknown Game)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:42 pm Dom is absolutely a wolf btw.

come the fuck on



[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I tried to fix the quote tags on this.

There was a recent game that I snap read you scum in that I was right but I could never really put into words a salient reason for it. I am having a similar experience.

k

i like how you went from looking for me to verify your opinion to me being bad in no time.
It's almost like you have no real opinions.

These sound like the musings of someone who is only reading posts about themselves, is that a fair assessment?

Only is probably unfair, replace with mostly.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 pm @Michelle and @Dom probably should have the same read as me on this.

to search this "this" at 4 am is not actually possible, can you quote it please?

You played scum with Nutella when Jack nailed her out of the box on day 1 in the Aussie game. It should mean something to you because you know how she feels about it. Does what you know line up with how she is dealing with him here to you? Looking at before I called her out on it specifically.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm I'm going to look at Master Radish next and then nutella.

Any reason for the order here considering Nutella is present and Radishes is not?

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:10 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:52 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:28 pm Wait Mac i might be remembering it wrong. But I hold that my ability to read Michelle stands. Regardless of the specific tell thing I have referenced, she is obvious lol.

To quoth the nutella:
"Is your bike broken? 'Cause you seem to be back peddlin' awfully fast"

(Nutella, 201?, The Piano, Unknown Game)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:42 pm Dom is absolutely a wolf btw.

come the fuck on



[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I tried to fix the quote tags on this.

There was a recent game that I snap read you scum in that I was right but I could never really put into words a salient reason for it. I am having a similar experience.

k

i like how you went from looking for me to verify your opinion to me being bad in no time.
It's almost like you have no real opinions.

These sound like the musings of someone who is only reading posts about themselves, is that a fair assessment?

No.
You're on some special bullshit, though.

You are dealing with two coffee Mac. God-like being.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:52 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:28 pm Wait Mac i might be remembering it wrong. But I hold that my ability to read Michelle stands. Regardless of the specific tell thing I have referenced, she is obvious lol.

To quoth the nutella:
"Is your bike broken? 'Cause you seem to be back peddlin' awfully fast"

(Nutella, 201?, The Piano, Unknown Game)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:42 pm Dom is absolutely a wolf btw.

come the fuck on



[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I tried to fix the quote tags on this.

There was a recent game that I snap read you scum in that I was right but I could never really put into words a salient reason for it. I am having a similar experience.

k

i like how you went from looking for me to verify your opinion to me being bad in no time.
It's almost like you have no real opinions.

Hey Dom do you want to vote for Mac with me?

I gave him a chance here but he hasn't projected any of his usual town radiance to me yet. He's usually a beacon of mindmelds for me, and it may just be that he's mostly been talking about me so I can't mindmeld, but I agree that he doesn't seem to have any of his own reads.

I do have my own reads. I also happen to have used Jack's read on you as a starting point to reading you because it's the most profound thing I have observed in the game to this point based on meta and history between you two. Sue me.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 pm nutella talk to us about your radishes read

Most of his content feels forced. Like he came up with a couple fake suspicions (like the jay readlist thing) that don't seem thought through at all. Maybe not thinking it through could be town indicative, but to me it read like he was trying to come up with something that sounded original and natural -- and that extends to most of his other contributions so far.

Fair assessment.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:10 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:52 pm


I tried to fix the quote tags on this.

There was a recent game that I snap read you scum in that I was right but I could never really put into words a salient reason for it. I am having a similar experience.

k

i like how you went from looking for me to verify your opinion to me being bad in no time.
It's almost like you have no real opinions.

These sound like the musings of someone who is only reading posts about themselves, is that a fair assessment?

No.
You're on some special bullshit, though.

You are dealing with two coffee Mac. God-like being.

Where the hell are the revelations then?

Unfair assessment.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:20 pm [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:04 pm Posts that are longer than a few lines of text are still hurting my head. I apologize.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:35 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:15 pm I also don't get Jack's so sure read on you. Is that normal for Jack, anyone? I seem to remember a more tempered town!Jack.

In my single game (Inception, a few months ago) Jack looked like he was trying to play like he is now, but without being too noticeable. He was scum in that game, so in retrospect I feel like he was trying to imitate his town game as he perceives it.

This makes me hesitate to vote Jack right now, as much as his overall play has been a bit questionable.

I find that town Jack is more unsure in late game in confident end game and scum Jack is the other way around.

Hahahaha you are bad again. Fuck I own your soul.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:27 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:21 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:15 am
I'm glad you're town, Michelle.

Is this legit?

It's correct. Source: am better at reading Michelle than jack is at reading me.

Is posting excerpts from the Aussie game scum chat bad faith here? Because you are absolutely lying and I am nearing 100% confirmation you are wolf because of it.

What?

What does this have to do with anything

Like I think I get it but it's irrelevant here? My ability to read Michelle still stands...???

The part where you keep downplaying Jack being god tier at reading you. I have demonstrable evidence that you know and highly regard his ability to read you. The lines of logic you are using are fallacious as opposed to what they would naturally be if he was actually wrong.

But what would be they be if he was actually wrong?

Surprised, or she'd have a fierce scum read of him.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:17 am Mac, I once again am asking you to clarify why you wanted someone you claim is baddie (me) to corroborate a piece of evidence for you.

Because there are two scum teams

Also because if you are teammates it would force you into an awkward situation which is pretty much the point.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:31 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:20 pm I don't know why I feel resistance to read S-V-S as town. Cause she probably very well could be.

Good read

What? This is a terrible read. What does it even mean?

Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

I see Juliets asked me a thing. I don't know why it's weird tbh. Jack was (is) scummy but in multiball scum are scum hunting so his read is still worth taking stock. Like why would I ignore his read in that context because of an earlier ping? It's day 1 who cares. It's about throwing shit at a wall.

I won't catch up til tomorrow so if there's anything else tag me.

Linki: Oh. What's all this then.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:31 pm ...Mac's timing is IMPECCABLE, huh?

I literally just woke up. I'm in bed in my underpants.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you're gonna die

Why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you’re bad

I'm gonna be pretty sad if I get lynched. I'd appreciate at least being given some idea of why I'm a suspect. Is it because I'm not posting much?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:29 pm Sorry it's the weekend and weekend is family time so I'm not gonna post much on the weekend. Weekend. Someone wanna give me cliffs?

you're gonna die

Why?

Because your biggest role in this game so far has been to cuddle tenderly with Jackofhearts2005.

That's a pretty shitty reason. Good luck if after this many pages we're lynching Mac based on not being productive. Things are different for me now. I can't dedicate hours per day to Mafia. If it takes mislynches to establish to my meta that low production doesn't equal scum so be it.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:40 pm Mac's vote is... unexpected and transparently baddie.

I'm not gonna stick around so I'm voting where it's most likely to be self preservation.

Yeah okay. Enjoy your Mac free paradise Dom. Typical shit.

Oh look I'm being railroaded by Dom and Nanook. I'm in Mafia heaven.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:14 pm I'm going to look at Master Radish next and then nutella.

Any reason for the order here considering Nutella is present and Radishes is not?

This is Mac's only post mentioning Radishes.
He is voting Radish.

When he came in, it was 2 on Mac and 3 on Radish.

He voted to make it 4 on radish.

.... why? Just to protect himself? Why Radish? Colin was right there too.

I didn't have the vote numbers because I hadn't cast my vote yet. It's impossible for me to do anything right if you are going to attack me in this manner.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:42 pm Yeah okay. Enjoy your Mac free paradise Dom. Typical shit.

What the fuck is this?

You know exactly what this is.

I'm going to ignore you. I don't need this negative bs.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:45 pm You guys know you can view the poll without voting right

I probably would have got told I was scum by Dom for that too.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], [mention]sig[/mention] why are you voting for me?

Oh now nobody wants to talk. Funny that.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:58 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:56 pm Still think Tony is bad tbh. One of you freaks that’s always asking for more ISOs to do, go check him out

Any beefs beyond the off-wagon vote?

His exchange with you. I had the same thought about his reads list, wondering where those names came from.

I definitely called out the town ones as they went by and think I had said something about each of the scum ones

I don't even understand this

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 pm Jackofhearts2005, sig why are you voting for me?

sig can't post
feel free to respond to his case though

Ok thank you.

[mention]sig[/mention] it's true that I profile likely so I can see why you'd think that. Even if you weren't suspecting me I would probably silence you if I had that role because it feels like tradition for me to use irritating roles on you. But unfortunately your logic beyond it being on point for meta doesn't hold up. I didn't read a single post during the night. I didn't even know you were suspecting me during the previous phase until I just read your post when Sloonei linked it, or at least I don't remember it. And my content/tone isn't a scum indicative thing for me.

Be mindful of the fact that I think there are quite a few people who would silence you night 1 who aren't me also. I'm sorry but you're barking up the wrong tree. I think you should probably apply the same logic when considering others though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 pm Jackofhearts2005, sig why are you voting for me?

sig can't post
feel free to respond to his case though

Ok thank you.

@sig it's true that I profile likely so I can see why you'd think that. Even if you weren't suspecting me I would probably silence you if I had that role because it feels like tradition for me to use irritating roles on you. But unfortunately your logic beyond it being on point for meta doesn't hold up. I didn't read a single post during the night. I didn't even know you were suspecting me during the previous phase until I just read your post when Sloonei linked it, or at least I don't remember it. And my content/tone isn't a scum indicative thing for me.

Be mindful of the fact that I think there are quite a few people who would silence you night 1 who aren't me also. I'm sorry but you're barking up the wrong tree. I think you should probably apply the same logic when considering others though.

Earlier I pointed out that Radishes responded to a case in a similar manner to this. "I see why you think that, but let me rearrange some words for ya!"
Mac, why did you choose to address sig from the perspective of whether or not you could/would have silenced him today? Why do you think sig was targeted by that role? And who do you think we should lynch today?

Because he was silenced and is accusing me of it

Dom tunneling Mac is literally an every game phenomenon. It's tiring.

I don't think Dyslexicon is fully above board here but I base that on nothing concrete.

Lol I feel like there are quite a few people who are just falling in love with the idea of catching me and not actually reading my play. Namely Dom, Nanook, Jack and now Nutella. Dom especially only really amped it up on me when I came back to thread live and a bunch of others (Jay, Nanook, Sloonei) all simultaneously started hounding me. It was too opportunistic and I do not trust.

I'm not really one who generally believes/trusts when people make self meta reads but if you've seen my GoC play, or really the vast majority of my mafia play, before (and I have been mafia in multiple), I can't see how you look at this game and think you're seeing the mafia version of Mac.

I'm not saying that I'm playing well or anything, quite the contrary, but mislynching me today would be a poor result. We should lynch someone who sucks more at Mafia ergo if they are mislynched would be no loss. Someone like Jay, Epi, or Sloonei.

Jack isn't town here. If there's one read you should come back to if/when I die it should be this one. I can best summarise it by saying that he feels like he is only half attempting to scum hunt when compared to his actual range. Which would be forgiveable if he wasn't also ever present. He is holding back. Actually this is probably explains why I've had suspicion on a range of other players too. Jay, Sloonei, S~V~S, TSP, Dyslexicon all fit the bill.

I feel quite good about sig, sprityo, sabie, michelle, turbup. You should all climb into my pocket and defend me from the scallywags.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:45 am What is Sprityo doing?

Voting me. Voting Nanook. Flying to Oklahoma.

Sounds like a desperate cry for help tbh.

Seems like he's reading the game well to me.

nutella tunneling me because I'm not mind melding with her ranks as one of the all time shittiest reasons to suspect someone.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:40 am I mean I’m just not really willing to think that anyone is going to seriously consider a world where one of the scum teams had to play short handed for an entire cycle

Hey so like I'm not scum so could you like not vote to lynch me plz?

I'm never voting for Colin after reading his first three posts. Colin never rolls Mafia and always gets lynched because of exactly this kind of stuff.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:43 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:40 am I mean I’m just not really willing to think that anyone is going to seriously consider a world where one of the scum teams had to play short handed for an entire cycle

Hey so like I'm not scum so could you like not vote to lynch me plz?

I mean I kinda think you are, so

I promise I am not though. If you vote someone else you will be happy at the end of the game that you ignored your intuition in favour of arbitrarily trusting me for no apparent reason.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:44 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 am Jack isn't town here. If there's one read you should come back to if/when I die it should be this one. I can best summarise it by saying that he feels like he is only half attempting to scum hunt when compared to his actual range. Which would be forgiveable if he wasn't also ever present. He is holding back. Actually this is probably explains why I've had suspicion on a range of other players too. Jay, Sloonei, S~V~S, TSP, Dyslexicon all fit the bill.

I can’t see anything but town Jack in this game. There was a burst of emotion (not a deliberate appeal to emotion) on Day 1 that I thought projected a level of agitation that would not have been reached if he was bad.

Then you aren't town either.

Mac out here solving the game, get your gamesolves.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:46 am And like your TRs are not good imo, so idk man I’m probably just gonna keep killing you tbh, until/unless something better comes around

My skill at reading some of these people is only matched by my own hubris about how good my skills are at reading them.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:45 am The other thing that makes me feel OK about a mac TK is that we have actual battle lines over it, people are invested on both sides, as opposed to radishes where we have a few people invested in killing him and everyone else seemingly kind of shrugging and going “eh, idk, maybe?”

And I tend to think that in a game like this a polarized TK is more likely to lead to scum than one where the strongest defense against it amounts to a half hearted “idk he’s kinda null.”

I dunno, it seems like the only thing that's likely to happen after I get mislynched is that you mislynch Turnip Head for TMI or some dumb shit.

Ohhh I remember why Dom has decided to just tunnel me and not actually read the thread. It's because I snap scum read him and was right. Hardy har har.

I can understand that some people wanna catch the big fish. Especially you big game hunter types like Sig. And we all know the big fish is the Big Mac. I get it. It's the big dick move. Mac is scum, we did it fam! Let's all rejoice we killed the King.

But consider how dumb you will all feel when I flip town and you have left Dragomir alive.

Now I am not saying we should lynch Dragomir. In fact I don't really think that listening to my reads is actually all that good of an idea given I have probably read about 10% of the total game posts. But still.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] read posts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 am Jack isn't town here. If there's one read you should come back to if/when I die it should be this one. I can best summarise it by saying that he feels like he is only half attempting to scum hunt when compared to his actual range. Which would be forgiveable if he wasn't also ever present. He is holding back. Actually this is probably explains why I've had suspicion on a range of other players too. Jay, Sloonei, S~V~S, TSP, Dyslexicon all fit the bill.