The Syndicate

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:45 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:04 pm I'd appreciate if anyone that views KZA as a high-level suspect could talk to me about why. @MacDougall you're one. @TonyStarkPrime you implied something like that.

I find KZA's play lacking town edge. There has been nothing I personally have observed where I've got the sense there was a town solving mind behind the keyword. Only being drawn into looking townie by way of omgus.

mac is town and he's an ez read

It's funny how I'm easy to read when I am town but not easy to read when I mafia.

I figured out how to read u

n1 me as mafia or perish

Alrighty then.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:47 am tutuu still has not offered a read on me.

I see you have entered the openwolfing stage. Bit earlier than usual for you Sloonei.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:47 am why tf do people say toan

it's just funny

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:47 am Kza overreacted to nothing burger votes on him and went straight to "guess ill die" mode, he's probably mafia

This read gives me cancer of the scrotal seam.

The thing about Sloonei is not a single post he has made yet do I have to squint too hard to attribute to him in his scum meta.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:48 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:47 am Kza overreacted to nothing burger votes on him and went straight to "guess ill die" mode, he's probably mafia

This read gives me cancer of the scrotal seam.

Yeah its pretty bad right

Yeah usually reads this bad are good cuz they're bad but this one just feels bad. Feels like you're just content to bury the miselim.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:51 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:50 am The thing about Sloonei is not a single post he has made yet do I have to squint too hard to attribute to him in his scum meta.

I'm not sure Sloonei has ever played a game that wouldn't make you feel that way.

I think you misread me. Sloonei routinely is capable of making posts as either alignment that make me go "shit that's so townie it can't be scum" and usually I tinfoil him anyway.

Here I'm not even needing to tinfoil.

You buy into his propaganda of me scumreading him in every game too much Jay. I scumread everyone in every game. When I firm up reads I have a good history of catching or clearing him.

An absence of effort to appear towny could be a levelled way of arriving to a Sloonei townread, but I'd rather just scumread him for not creating any kind of complex solving agenda.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:50 am The thing about Sloonei is not a single post he has made yet do I have to squint too hard to attribute to him in his scum meta.

Everyone clear out, Mac is farting.

Immediately playing the credibility of Mac. A beautiful combination of TMI on myself and yourself simultaneously.

@tutuu aside from me who has been defensive of you if anyone?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:57 am after thinking about it more, i actually feel that alison's approach to reading my slot may be town indicative for her. i would need to re-read her to know for sure, but she could just be town

I was actually thinking the opposite of her. I was just looking at her ISO and being reminded of her mafia meta.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:55 am @tutuu aside from me who has been defensive of you if anyone?

I think noone ur my last friend T_T

Hmmm.

AL_sama wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:50 pm You apparently know Odd better than most of us. What can you tell us about him? How do you read him in this game so far?

he feels townish but take this with a grain of salt since its hard to use meta on him

the vibes I m getting from his posts so far are that he is trying to gather reads by saying blunt things

I really hate this read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:00 am my brain is currently spinning a wheel and eventually it will land on the conclusion that one of tutuu/alison/spf is not town, but right now it's just... spinning.

I did it for you.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:46 pm Town: JJJ, MacDougall, Nanook, Oddmerta, Sloonei, Strawhenge, falcon45ca

Light town: Esooa, fingersplints, BoKnows

Null: Dom, Michelle, Long Con, Marmot

Mixed: tutuu, staypositivefriedn

POE: AL_sama, JPIC, KZA, TonyStarkPrime, tedxtr

Here's where I'm at.

@JaggedJimmyJay @Sloonei @tutuu @Esooa @Michelle

You guys are on Alison duty. Here's the rules.

Alison's current readslist is >rand accurate regardless of alignment. Her reads must remain good and she must remain day in and day out responsible for the pelting of wolves to remain above the line.

The idea is that we force her into the light, or force her to kill her teammates.

If at any stage of the game after I am dead there are more than two consecutive town mislynches and if Alison is still alive, instantly kill her.

As it stands I believe she is town and expect she will self resolve early, but these are the runes. Use them wisely.

I think we go for the big game today. If Alison is town and her readslist is as accurate as I feel that it is we should flip TSP straight away.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am [VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Just seems like a decent candidate when I stare at my POE. Their reads on tutuu and Oddmerta look a bit cooked.

I think Al_sama is probably mafia but they are not who I want to be killing day 1.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

I am willing to just give Alison my vote today tbh.

All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

eh

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?

what's ++ mean? Why not ping me, you just think I'm obv town or what lol?

I think Oddmerta has been extremely towny and yes I think you are town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

eh

counter point: ego

You aren't even being rational so I am going to assume you are quite drunk right now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am I think Alison can resolve herself if we allow her to, whether by her role or otherwise. If she is mafia, I don't think she is in a winning position right now. So I am not terribly bothered at the moment.

I think she is just town though. Her reads have been enemy creating, not friend making and salient. No mafia agenda that I perceive. Only agenda to solve and to get her reads out.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am All of my Oddmerta pings have been ++ so you definitely have a wolf on that wagon. Probably just one though.

@tedxtr @staypositivefriend have you guys met? Can you guys share reads and do some solving together for science?

what's ++ mean? Why not ping me, you just think I'm obv town or what lol?

I think Oddmerta has been extremely towny and yes I think you are town.

why

You're a real hard read but I guess I am just really good.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:36 pm [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Reasoning? Is it because he didn't answer your question?

This post is extremely meaningful. But what does it mean!?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am You're a real hard read but I guess I am just really good.

you're soooo good mac, please teach me more please, I am honored to be your student

Also I think tbh my scum game is a bit behind my town game, I've been spending like an entire month playing town only almost and trying to get better and I think I've done it well

When you have a correct ez town read on Mac the correct course of action is usually to just sheep me til the mafia kill me not "eh" my ideas.

You've got a lot to learn kiddo.

Why does BoKnows, known passive participant in forum mafia, choose a random Jay vote on TSP to question? Does it make TSP town or his mafia teammate? One things for sure is it makes Bo mafia lol.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am You aren't even being rational so I am going to assume you are quite drunk right now.

I don't care about any proposed strategy beyond "eliminate the most likely mafioso every day until town wins". Picking and choosing suspects based upon thread posture rather than degree of suspicion is not a business I care to engage in with rare exception. Tony may end up being that player today. He's in my POE too. We'll see how the phase develops.

And I have seven best civilian awards across three websites, so .

Ted your fly is undone.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:18 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 am You're a real hard read but I guess I am just really good.

you're soooo good mac, please teach me more please, I am honored to be your student

Also I think tbh my scum game is a bit behind my town game, I've been spending like an entire month playing town only almost and trying to get better and I think I've done it well

When you have a correct ez town read on Mac the correct course of action is usually to just sheep me til the mafia kill me not "eh" my ideas.

You've got a lot to learn kiddo.

you've questioned me not sheeping you before

Do you really expect me to do that? I only would if I'm feeling particularly lazy

I don't expect you to. I just wish that you would hurry up and get to the point where you realise that being town is easier when you just find other town and work with them instead of questioning your townreads reasons for townreading you for no apparent reason lol.

Getting townread is great for you as either alignment. Catching a wolf for townreading you is fun but it's also not something you should slap a wolf for. The more you force a wolf to be correct the harder it is for them to find a winning miselim. Got someone like SPF who appears to be mafia townreading you? Don't ask them why, just let them and then nope them when they push onto your godreads lol.

That's how we do it in the old folks home anyway.

Wolf: Mac is town
Mac: Thank you wolf, who do you think is mafia?
Wolf: Tutuu is mafia
Mac: Thank you for clearing Tutuu for me, who is mafia now?
Wolf: Ted is mafia
Mac: Thank you for spewing Ted your teammate

Advanced Mafia Fundamentals.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 am I don't expect you to. I just wish that you would hurry up and get to the point where you realise that being town is easier when you just find other town and work with them instead of questioning your townreads reasons for townreading you for no apparent reason lol.

Getting townread is great for you as either alignment. Catching a wolf for townreading you is fun but it's also not something you should slap a wolf for. The more you force a wolf to be correct the harder it is for them to find a winning miselim. Got someone like SPF who appears to be mafia townreading you? Don't ask them why, just let them and then nope them when they push onto your godreads lol.

That's how we do it in the old folks home anyway.

I'm not really playing the game to make it easy. I'm playing the game to figure stuff out, regarding everyone. Maybe if I get to a point where I'm like "I just wanna play some casual mafia" I'd do that but my goal with ~every game, ideally, is to get better so nah

I'm not trying to "slap" anyone into not town reading me though. I just question people about their reads on me cause I think evaluating peoples approach to me is a useful way to read them

That's not casual mafia that's just realising that you don't have to hit the ball very hard to hit winners.

Look at me I'm making tennis analogies.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:19 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 am You aren't even being rational so I am going to assume you are quite drunk right now.

I don't care about any proposed strategy beyond "eliminate the most likely mafioso every day until town wins". Picking and choosing suspects based upon thread posture rather than degree of suspicion is not a business I care to engage in with rare exception. Tony may end up being that player today. He's in my POE too. We'll see how the phase develops.

And I have seven best civilian awards across three websites, so .

Ted your fly is undone.

wut

Town ted: God damn it Mac you are obvious town can you hurry up and read me town so we can fucking dominate together
Scum ted: Reeee your strategies are whack. I am the best and only I have the secrets of mafia.

Your fly is undone

I am not sure but I think I have gone to a new level of being obvious town in this game. I haven't seen a single person sus me yet. It's beautiful.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:26 am Town ted: God damn it Mac you are obvious town can you hurry up and read me town so we can fucking dominate together

I think we're well on our way. Just do what you do and synergize it with what I do and we'll be fine.

I am directing this at Ted why are you replying? Are you a Ted sock?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 am Isn't the point of getting better at the game to make the game easier

When you townread people and they make you waste keystrokes on things when you can just sheep obvious god mode townies. Worst.

Yeah I mean I thought you were Ted so it's me who's having a stroke not you.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 am [VOTE: fingersplints
] aubergine

this is a wolf. i will explain tomorrow. goodnight!

Could be. Could be. Could be. If it is you're town good job.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 am Yeah I mean I thought you were Ted so it's me who's having a stroke not you.

are you alright fella

actually no I have had the most stressful day and here I am now playing mafia at the end of it which is one of my primary vices and a strong precursor to heavy drinking

see the thing about me is that I understand myself well enough to be able to see the signs and mildly remedy them with pre-emptive humour

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:37 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:26 am Town ted: God damn it Mac you are obvious town can you hurry up and read me town so we can fucking dominate together

I think we're well on our way. Just do what you do and synergize it with what I do and we'll be fine.

I am directing this at Ted why are you replying? Are you a Ted sock?

You responded to my post about my best civilian awards and then said the thing about "I'm the best and have all the secrets". I thought you were talking to me and calling me Ted for some MacDougall reason analogous to me calling you Doug.

I thought it was a reference to the film Ted

having an actual stroke probably

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:37 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 am Yeah I mean I thought you were Ted so it's me who's having a stroke not you.

are you alright fella

actually no I have had the most stressful day and here I am now playing mafia at the end of it which is one of my primary vices and a strong precursor to heavy drinking

maybe it's a good day for fishin

It's dark and pouring rain but fishing would do me good no doubt about it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:39 am It's dark and pouring rain but fishing would do me good no doubt about it.

Weak, Australia. Do you normally like to fish around the ocean coast, or is there a smaller body of water near you?

Oh I am a fisher of many bodies of water. My latest endeavours have been primarily beach fishing. My boss made me a beach fishing rod for Christmas and it's long as fuck. Like 12 feet maybe or more.

I do enjoy a fish in a river, or a fish in a boat, or even a deep sea fish. Never done an ice fish though. I hear the Ice Fishing is pretty good in Minnesota.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:47 am I feel like you have the right temperament for fly fishing, jay

unironically agree

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:39 am It's dark and pouring rain but fishing would do me good no doubt about it.

Weak, Australia. Do you normally like to fish around the ocean coast, or is there a smaller body of water near you?

Oh I am a fisher of many bodies of water. My latest endeavours have been primarily beach fishing. My boss made me a beach fishing rod for Christmas and it's long as fuck. Like 12 feet maybe or more.

I do enjoy a fish in a river, or a fish in a boat, or even a deep sea fish. Never done an ice fish though. I hear the Ice Fishing is pretty good in Minnesota.

I've very little experience with fishing. I suspect I would most enjoy beach fishing, since it'd likely come with a decent breeze and just feel generally relaxed in a way I'm not sure I'd get from a river or lake.

Beach fishing can be pleasant but it can also be tiring and unpleasant. Sunburn, sand everywhere, saltwater everywhere. Sometimes insects. Sometimes jellyfish.

The most pleasant form of fishing for peace is definitely not beach. You're definitely looking for trout fishing in a mountain stream if you want peace.

Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I dab on you dab dab dab dab

it's simply the easiest point of discussion for me with other players

Try doing something mildly scummy and then omgussing anyone who goes after you for it. Much more fun imo.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I don't think that theory makes sense, if Esooa is mafia here she has lots of nightkills she could make that wouldn't raise an eyebrow (Sloonei, you, Jay, me, etc.) which would provide more than enough explanation why she's still alive.

Sorry I didn't mean that. I meant town Esooa trying to look scummy and attract sus by tilting those townreading her. It was a joke tho.

I don't usually laugh at your posts but when I do I choke on my spit and die.

Michelle is town tho.