The Syndicate

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P

*hint hint*

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:43 pm i have tmi on tsp bc hes my mason

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:47 am But you have been insanly towny here and in the neibourhood.
Less then that can be said about marmot and Quinn last night in it.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:54 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:50 am

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:47 am But you have been insanly towny here and in the neibourhood.
Less then that can be said about marmot and Quinn last night in it.

Could you explain in a little more detail why Hyena looked insanely townie last night in chat, but Quin and I did not?

Me and hyena activly put in work and and their pushing and willing to consider multiplie options comes off as towny. Not to mention their interactions before in chat.
Quinn: Never was reconsidering and spent the time trying to call all my pushs wolf to the point of coming into thread and saying i was 100% on Nutella LW when i said it was a posibility and incase they got ADDED TO WOLF CHAT from a mechainc that we have no knowledge of i wanted to RB them over Alison someone we didn't know a claim of and might have had a Town Investigative ability to gain infor of.
Marmat: Gave little import and when asked agreed to the suppose targets and then switched it to the person both me a hynea VETOED in wanting to target.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:30 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:12 am Actually, don't nutella and TSP also have a private chat? So much info has come out in this thread, I'm having trouble recollecting.

No that was a joke

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:46 am Marmot seemed to get a lot more flatfooted after I started turning around on TSP and was pretty strongly angling for a TSP exe earlier.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:17 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:09 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:30 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:12 am Actually, don't nutella and TSP also have a private chat? So much info has come out in this thread, I'm having trouble recollecting.

No that was a joke

sorry, just a wider mafia culture thing you probably haven't encountered before, but it's sort of a meme/fairly common thing to fakeclaim masons with someone as a way of stating a confident townread, that's all I was doing.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:36 am If Marmot is a wolf, everything actually works

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:38 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:37 am What is an order?

Lethal or non lethal I know sorta what lethal does

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:42 am Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:44 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am I choose a player and I choose lethal or non lethal and something happens

and? were these the same actions that took people out of thread and gave sloonei the note?

I took Alison out of the thread. I’m inclined to say I didn’t give Sloonei the note because it would mean Marmot is lying. But Marmot could be lying. If Marmot is lying, I probably gave Sloonei the note.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:45 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:45 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:44 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:40 am I choose a player and I choose lethal or non lethal and something happens

and? were these the same actions that took people out of thread and gave sloonei the note?

I took Alison out of the thread. I’m inclined to say I didn’t give Sloonei the note because it would mean Marmot is lying. But Marmot could be lying. If Marmot is lying, I probably gave Sloonei the note.

Lying about what?

Blocking me N2

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:48 am I also think it can rather easily be a cover but eh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:55 am it’s established that 1) marmot is a wolf only with one of punk chat,

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:13 pm I'm voting for Marmot because his ability to unilaterally control the RB is kinda dangerous. TL chop is more likely to hit a wolf. I'm prepared to lose to nutella, I think I will lose to Hyena. Alison is a weird case. Not claiming is bold and Alison has great spew off Vul plus decent mechanical non-wolfiness. Alison /could/ be a lost wolf but again, not claiming is bold. "Quin is town for defending me" is something that I think is not particularly good but it's good enough to chop TL over Quin if we're chopping in the punk gang.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:15 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:13 pm "At some point, you may gain additional abilities."

I mean, you kinda have to take our word for it.

I mean the alternate is a vast conspiracy to deceive like two of us, since Alison seems to be in on it. And apparently Nutella might be in on something too. I'm the only person not in on anything. Weh.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:31 pm So, like, if we yeet someone today, we end up in LyLo tomorrow if a mafia kill goes through, right? Which means if Nutella is scum and Alison is town, all Nutella would have to do is shoot Alison and the mafia will win right?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:23 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:18 am ...Wait. Why's Marmot selfvoting?

Why are you Marmotvoting?

Because I want Marmot to do something other than selfvote, although I suppose that me saying that now defeats the purpose of my vote.

Meh.

I'm not sure what to do about Poison. I'm in a weird situation here. I think her play this game has been close to her mafia play... in an off-site game I read, but NOT the last game I played with her here, when she was mafia and fooled me. I dislike the fact her reads seem rather forced, and she seems to be struggling to find her footing in this game. The biggest thing going for her right now is postcount, because it shows that she is not afraid of voicing her thoughts, but there hasn't really been anything in her posts that made me think "this must come from town." I'm also more paranoid of her scumgame after the last game we played.

Alison is town, because I think that her thought processes not only make perfect sense, but show a lack of TMI. I might be severely underestimating her scumgame, but I think the complexity of her thoughts would be difficult to replicate as mafia. I think that if she were mafia trying to fake these thoughts, the thoughts would make less sense. But what she is saying is cohesive, I understand where she is coming from (for the most part), and she is being fairly consistent. I wrote that I did not like her early townread on Long Con, and she mostly ignored it in a way I also found very towny. There is just this air of stubbornness and confidence around Alison which I really could hardly see as coming from mafia.

TSP is town because he's actually solving in this game and he wasn't really solving in his last one. Or at least, some of his posts looked like he was solving, which is a notable improvement in comparison to the last mafia game I have seen from him. That said, the read is getting weaker, because I'm starting to see him shift back to his "I do not actually care about solving" approach. I also find the lack of shitposting very odd. Could potentially be mafia overcompensating for how I caught him last game...?
For now, I think the differences are notable enough, and I think he still deserves a townread, but I can see a world where he's mafia trying to appease me specifically, since I caught him last game and got nightkilled right after. I didn't have 100% confidence in my last game read, but it was correct, and it makes sense for mafia!TSP to play specifically in a way to fool me here. Although, maybe I'm overestimating my potential impact.
I'm getting sidetracked. The conclusion here is that I'm still fairly confident TSP is town, but I do see a singular world where he's mafia. I don't really think he's mafia, though.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I'm not going to get anything from Marmot if they always selfvote like this. Would still like to see more than a selfvote, though.

By the way, @Enrique; how new are you to the game? Or did you already say it and I missed it? There's a read I have on you which only applies in case you answer in a specific way. I'm not saying what it is yet.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am We may have to pull the trigger now.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:56 pm The lost wolf info then becomes key: we know that there's a wolf in the punk game, eliminate punk gang til find wolf.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:25 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am We may have to pull the trigger now.

Why would you have to pull the trigger now?

the "shoot alison" thing. It's a dangerous power for nutella to have going into F5 and we get info on if it's true. If one of nutella/alison is a wolf as hyena has suggested then it is necessary to shoot alison today or else nutella can just do it in f5 and win