The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:12 am Sloonei is obvious mafia.

I agree tbh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:10 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:14 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:50 am I'm opening up for MR.

I remember bei g sus of them previously and I think we went 112 instead of them? I recall there was discussion along lines of "if 112 os bad MR has to be good." And we kinda tabled the MR suspicion since in spite of 112 being 3p.

There was no 'we'. That was Made's theory.

Are you gonna tell me what you found out about Michelle's role?

Not without Michelle's consent.

@Michelle can you give consent?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:17 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 am I'd be insulted if you're comparing me to Wilgy based on what we've each done this game.

Well, what do I know about you. Why should you be removed from poe before me. Not based on content amount but accomplishment?

I've done Things. Also some Stuff.

Okay how about this.

Wilgy, I have reason to believe you could be lying. Now tell me, in even vague terms, what you think Michelle's role is.

Wilgy you can be vague about it.

Okay so

I targeted Wilgy last night. So he should have role checked himself. That clearly did not happen.

Okay.

So then I wasn't interfered with, but Wilgy was.

So who did that?

Lmao this is why role madness sucks.

So Wilgy was redirected from Michelle to Dizzy.

Or he's lying.

Or someone else is.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:10 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:09 pm Lmao this is why role madness sucks.

Fuck it! We'll do it mountainous!

This is always the way.

Everyone not named Jack or TSP is vanilla. Find the scum.

Hi Tim, I acknowledge you've posted about me.

If there's a redirector then LC and tutuu are back on the table.

I think if Kyle was redirected it can't be on the night of LC,otherwise he would've been dinged later.

Maybe the nights he checked tutuu or Ted though.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:23 pm [VOTE: MR] aubergine

No.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:25 pm MR does have a redirection role though. I think he has claimed it makes the target target themselves?

Yeah. Which is why I pushed Wilgy to out his check of Michelle, seeing as he should've checked himself. But I do believe him.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:27 pm What I'm processing now is this:
I can validate that MR is being honest with his redirect of me onto me.

Does w/MR claim that in hopes that the chaos would plunge the game further, or does t/MR claim that wanting to clarify wtf happened?

Further, why does MR wait until now?

I've been softing it all day.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:29 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:28 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:27 pm What I'm processing now is this:
I can validate that MR is being honest with his redirect of me onto me.

Does w/MR claim that in hopes that the chaos would plunge the game further, or does t/MR claim that wanting to clarify wtf happened?

Further, why does MR wait until now?

I've been softing it all day.

Well, more so what about previous days?

What about them? My role has been out for awhile now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:31 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:29 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:28 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:27 pm What I'm processing now is this:
I can validate that MR is being honest with his redirect of me onto me.

Does w/MR claim that in hopes that the chaos would plunge the game further, or does t/MR claim that wanting to clarify wtf happened?

Further, why does MR wait until now?

I've been softing it all day.

Well, more so what about previous days?

What about them? My role has been out for awhile now.

Like, what did you do previously? I've stated my details at least 3 times just this day cycle. You can explain to me at least 1 more time.

N1 Nanook
N2 112
N3 HK
N4 Ted
N5 Wilgy


112 confirmed something happened to them that Night. HK says his role is passive and wouldn't be affected. Ted was jailkept too so dunno what happened there.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:51 pm Radish does look rather awkward here though. Mechanics wise.

No I don't.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:54 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:51 pm Radish does look rather awkward here though. Mechanics wise.

No I don't.

Yes, you do.

No I don't.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:55 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:51 pm Radish does look rather awkward here though. Mechanics wise.

No I don't.

Who is the other redirector from your PoV?

How would I know?

Not all town have checked in since this was revealed.

Possibly another town redirecter does exist?

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:15 pm skimmed what I've missed and don't really see why everyone believes wilgy, seems an obvious lie to me

He sounds genuine. He handled is naturally. Why would he lie. Etc.

But yeah, it's an easy lie for a role cop tbh.

My mind is not made up.

This all basically confirms dizzy at least.

Btw guys officially biggest game in syndicate history for post count.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:30 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm actually i have to check something

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 pm please hold

*garbled violins begin to play*

nvm I thought maybe MR had claimed a different target earlier but he didn't

and he did indeed soft a bunch of bait toward Wilgy

I admire your determination to catch me with mech.

And it's not even over...

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:13 pm Actually, uh, can we not exceed more than ten votes please

I moved.

Wait. So did Wilgy target Michelle and get Martin's role then?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:16 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:15 pm He targeted Martin, Michelle, and himself last night.

how did I get Dizzy's role w/my check then?

Full disclosure, I haven't read what you are talking about

Wilgy role copped Michelle and got what we think was Dizzy's role.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:19 pm Wait. So did Wilgy target Michelle and get Martin's role then?

wait this makes no sense, ignore me.

If anyone else has any 'gotcha' mech can we just save it for another round?

This is like D4 all over again.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:17 pm I think Ted is lying about being third party. I'm basing my suspicions of you on today's actions, you were very supportive of him being third party and us chopping Wilgy.

Could've saved me at any time dad. Here I was about to drown.

Sorry bro, had to let the conversation go so we could see who was the most supportive of letting Ted live.

Nah it was a good call.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:29 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:19 pm does anyone want to get robbed tonight

Steal tutuu or Made

Yeah, good choices.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:32 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:31 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:19 pm does anyone want to get robbed tonight

Maybe steal Radish's tbh, so that we can confirm he is telling the truth about how his role work?

I also advocate this one. Would put some minds at ease

I'm fine with this.

I'm still holding onto my roleblock btw. I guess you might steal that?

I will say, just to stop myself going for retrospective credit I don't deserve (regardless of flip),

I instantly disbelieved Ted's 3P claim. It felt too convenient. But he has been so insistent that he was winning me over. I couldn't reconcile it with Kyle's claims and was going to shrugginly advocate we chop Ted today. But I definitely felt he was being sincere by the end.

So one way or another he's succeeded in convincing me of something he wanted to convince me of.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:45 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:44 pm I just don't get how wilgy got to dizzy

Me neither.

The most obvious solution is Radish lying about how his redirect works.

I'm not though.

My brain has turned off. Mech stuff sucks.

Starting next round I'm going to use it only to clear Jack/TSP, and going to play fully mountainous.

I probably won't keep that promise, but

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:21 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:19 pm My brain has turned off. Mech stuff sucks.

Starting next round I'm going to use it only to clear Jack/TSP, and going to play fully mountainous.

That seems like a really bad idea tbh. I'm pretty sure I'm an easy mech clear if nobody wants to solve me in any other way, for example.

I think you're likely mech clear, yeah. Like, your role appears to be confirmed to exist, it doesn't contradict anything you said, you claim you targeted an obv town who was likely the target that night anyway, and what kind of bastard host gives the scum team a super Doc with only one dayvig shot in play?

Also you just sound like a light version of full Dizzy. So even under mountainous rules I'm probably going to slot you as a light green at least.

I do just want to say,

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:19 pm There was a second on me, and I can't explain it. You want me to pull information out of the aether?

mafia would never redirect you with outed cop roles and doctors.

town would always claim if they redirected you.

Ted is not wrong here. Scum redirecting Wilgy seems super unlikely. Only tutuu has yet to claim whether she town redirected him or not.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:22 pm Seems like one of Radish/Wilgy is mafia. Seems. I don't really see it. But maybe. Maybe Wilgy. How did he get my role though? I believe he really did.

I'm not sure there's a way to get around yeeting Ted here. He's not town, and he may be mafia. "If you ignore the track" is not really something we can do. But for me, I wouldn't be surprised if he just flips 3p.

I don't think it's hard to imagine we're both town. But a redirector needs to exist in that scenario, and we've yet to uncover evidence of one until now.

I mean

Look

We kill one

We decide what to do about the other tomorrow

I see that gif in my dreams now.

And someone seriously needs to update Tutuu's post.




Not it.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm this is so level one lol

fake claim role cop

rip a claim from earlier in the thread

"oh no, I was redirected"

sooper ez

cmon

I mean he probably is a role cop. More likely he just copped Dizzy and knew about it.


Thing he has going for him is straight out saying 'I copped Michelle' and then not really hesitating to give Dizzy's role.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:32 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:30 pm this is so level one lol

fake claim role cop

rip a claim from earlier in the thread

"oh no, I was redirected"

sooper ez

cmon

I mean he probably is a role cop. More likely he just copped Dizzy and knew about it.


Thing he has going for him is straight out saying 'I copped Michelle' and then not really hesitating to give Dizzy's role.

what

he waffled on it for several pages

michelle even almost claimed for him, i had to remind them not to

I guess I just mean why the elaborate lie about being redirected? Why not just true role cop someone, we all say 'oh Wilgy seems like town then' and easy done.

I don't know what to believe anymore man. For awhile this felt like actual 'light' role madness and now it's just making my eyes glaze over.

Does anyone have a 'double chop' power we can use on both of them today?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:34 pmto sow confusion

which he has succeeded in

an unknown redirector screws everything up

That seems like a silly idea. As mafia you always claim as close to the truth as you can, or else you'll get found out. I'm not Wilgy, but that just seems ...not the most logical thing to do. But what do I know.

Yeah.

Also, of the two of them, Wilgy's claim felt most like it was made without agenda. Like he felt like a townie thinking it was better not to give anything up, but accepting he needed to to clear himself.

Ted was just like 'oh lol actually I'm 3P'.