The Syndicate

I'd say she gives up too quick and the self vote is silly tbh. Idk

If the lynch is JJJ and he flips villager the vig shoudl hit the one who he feels best to flip mafia, he already did a very good job.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:42 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:40 pm I'd say she gives up too quick and the self vote is silly tbh. Idk

WAITASECOND! Fayt can't do this, it ruins the tie. If she's a cat, she just hops off at the last second and survives.

you aee right. Self voters are bad.
[VOTE: Fayt] aubergine

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:49 pm Michelle is giving me the heebie jeebies. I don't like her for some reason.

post them if you really have them

When is Eod?

Fayt wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:00 pm14 minutes

Do yoi have faith in that plan then? Post legacy reads

Late to figure it though

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:59 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:49 pm Michelle is giving me the heebie jeebies. I don't like her for some reason.

post them if you really have them

When I said "for some reason", it means I don't know what it is.

except you need to shade me there is no reason

No one can be mech cleared i think.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:48 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:31 am Michelle's is someone I've been liking less and less. Felt like she was beating around the bush with Jay in how she was handling him, she talked herself into voting him in a weird way lol.

I think I remember thinking something like that about her too.

@Michelle speak to me. Show me your inno child.

I was multitabling and with a busy RL. Now is monday morning and i have ahead the busiest day of the week. I will play in the work breaks.

JJJ pissed me off with his Poe thing and finally my nerves prevailed to logic. I am sorry but i am only a human. A dog i mean.
If this is a reason to lynch me i can only shrug.

I would look for the one who has the largest Poe rn because searching for one single scum doesn't mean you can change all the reads and accuse everyone.
From today I dislike the most Nutella for inconsistency. She may be wolfing and i had a question mark since yesterday. She previously pocketed me as wolf and her easy town read on me strikes me now as odd.

Note that i disliked Epi's posts and words and i answered at his posts but didn't push him back because i thought he may be a civ. The NK says i was right and if i was scum why i would let go the chance to omgus while Dragomir had such a jucy case against him? This is all i can bark in my defense.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:39 am @Michelle where's your head at fam?

at you being scum

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:53 am When you say I pocketed you as a wolf are you referring to the hydra game on mu?

yes. i don't have other reference

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:37 pm That's a weird thing to say lol.

yeah, bad wording is my specialty.
I wanted to say i was right he is civ and the NK prooves it. I hope now is understandable.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine
the first day wagons needs resolve.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

I want for real to know your ideas.
What i dislike at you is not just the 1st day wagon formation, is also the cases you made, the idea you voted JJJ no matter alignament to see his flip, and an insecure feeling I had after D2. And a slight reservation in playstyle. You are holding yourself back. Just my feeling.
If you are not the last cat you have to explain this very good because you are in the spotlight now.
Pointing at me will not help because i am villager.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

your own words sound cool.
How did you come up with this?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:08 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

I want for real to know your ideas.
What i dislike at you is not just the 1st day wagon formation, is also the cases you made, the idea you voted JJJ no matter alignament to see his flip, and an insecure feeling I had after D2. And a slight reservation in playstyle. You are holding yourself back. Just my feeling.
If you are not the last cat you have to explain this very good because you are in the spotlight now.
Pointing at me will not help because i am villager.

What does the d1 wagon tell you? How does it make me bad? I keep seeing it used against but I don't understand why.

Eod 1 had 3 wagons. Rej.flipping mafia, Long Con and you alive, Rej voted on counter wagon Long Con, speed bussed Rej. Long Con also voted Rej. Is asinine to consider both bussed Rej so i doubt LC is mafia.
On the other hand you were on that LongCon counterwagon. If Long Con were mafia Rej would vote you.
Of course this is how i see things. from that wagon just you, me and Nutella are alive rn. Nutella i may tinfoil but i have no real conviction she's scum.
And about me i know i can bark because i am civ.
Idk if i explained well in english but i did my best

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:13 pm Who do you guys think would kill Epi?

Idk. I have no consistent meta knowledge on the playlist . I start to think my meta about Rej was wrong.

Fayt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:13 pm Who do you guys think would kill Epi?

Idk. I have no consistent meta knowledge on the playlist . I start to think my meta about Rej was wrong.

What meta?

playstyle and alignament behaviour

Nova you played more with Drago I think.
Do you see him civ?

low presence at Eod :/ where is everyone?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm uhh ok so it sounds like the pit bull thing might explain that but drago is still not even attempting to make any sense lol

My understanding is that you guys are trying to understand why I'm behaving how I am?

this is correct

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:41 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:38 pm low presence at Eod :/ where is everyone?

This feels fake. Most of us are here.

Then is about JJJ was very vocal. it feels cold

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:40 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:36 pm Nova you played more with Drago I think.
Do you see him civ?

Yeah he's being too stubborn in the way he's going about his ass on the line, I don't feel the lynch. Also it's not just about experience with him, like his behavior doesn't make much sense.

exactly this is a problem. All of us we need to catch the meaning

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:41 pm I'm still waiting to hear back from you Michelle.

ask again is 11 pm and i am already v tired. sumimasen

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:53 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:52 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm uhh ok so it sounds like the pit bull thing might explain that but drago is still not even attempting to make any sense lol

My understanding is that you guys are trying to understand why I'm behaving how I am?

this is correct

Ok, I can't explain to you guys in a logical explanation.

if JJJ overexplained and you cannot explain what we are going to do?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:21 pm @Fayt @novaselinenever @nutella @Michelle Let's lynch LC together.

but you are voting Dom isn't it?

no sorry i was mixing thr wagons

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:36 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:28 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:21 pm @Fayt @novaselinenever @nutella @Michelle Let's lynch LC together.

I'm not lynching LC.

What are you gonna do if Dom is town?

I've been mulling over Mac, his facilitator role is unimpressive. Feels like he's doing the bare minimum and he's just like letting stuff happen. He hasn't really been memorable, and he's been cruising on a feel good look he has. But yeah Dom's probably bad for sure, dude's shady af lol.

why this? we have just one mafia left

Fayt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:41 pm fayt went to dom for a few seconds so nova could have changed but then went back lol

sorry mobile is hard for me to follow. I thought the plan was to tie it, then i noticed late that

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:40 pm Michelle or Fayt. Hmm.

haha this is hilarious. We both helped you survive yesterday ans now you find us scum? Are we playing the same game?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:27 pm Macdougall is the Pinscher

do we have an IC?

is midnight my head can't think properly

I will play in 8-10 hours

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:45 pm It's just Drago. It really makes the most sense the way things have gone down here.

I get what you say.

But i have a question, why wanted Nova to switch with Fayt, at eod, the wagons. Where is the sense?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:35 pm It's freaking Michelle.

you are a freaking huge meowning cat.
I know how fabricated your case is.
I will answer at that.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:28 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:40 pm Michelle or Fayt. Hmm.

haha this is hilarious. We both helped you survive yesterday ans now you find us scum? Are we playing the same game?

You know who else helped me survive? Nova and Nutella. You know who's left in the game? Mac, Nutella, you, Fayt, Nova. You know who's confirmed town? Mac? Who the fuck am I supposed to suspect? Myself? Don't bitch about something irrelevant.

You know what? I don't remeber to ever talk to you on that tone. It's rude. If you are town is meaningless because in the game is one scum left and you have no proof of me being scum, if you are scum it wakes up the dog sleeping inside me. There is no way i'll let you today mislynch me because you discovered a new agenda.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:44 pm @Michelle What happened to your suspicion of Fayt?

I need some time to reread.
I came itt late and I see Drago is too vocal into ML me. I read your opinion about him being more town than scum. I see him more scum because he pushed convincingly Long Con and Epi, 2 flipped townies before. Any good wolf can make cases tbh.
Rethinking everything is a good movement rn.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:54 pm Alright SCAMPS.

Let's go through the actual motions here instead of the dumb ones. Let's start with GTH.

@Fayt @Dragomir @novaselinenever @nutella @Michelle

Be here in exactly 36 minutes.

3 am is not my fav hour. sorry

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:14 pm I honestly cannot see where there was a plan to vig Fayt specifically documented. I can see where the plan was to lynch Fayt and vig Jay, but given Jay got lynched the only existence of a "lynch Fayt" plan is in the undertone of the aforementioned plan. Speaking as though there was a clear and decided plan for the vig to vig Fayt is bad faith imo.

And this is the only post anywhere near the EOD that references any kind of vig directive.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:43 pm If the lynch is JJJ and he flips villager the vig shoudl hit the one who he feels best to flip mafia, he already did a very good job.

As an aside it's interesting that Michelle is referring to the vig as a "he" is it not? Given that Nutella and Fayt are both females are were in the game, is this not revealing that Michelle actually knows who the vig is *cough* because rolecop *cough*?

unfortunately no, idk that info, for me is tricky because in my language words have gender modifiers. Vigilante is male by default.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine i have to go to work.

I will be back in 8 hours and deff be here at Eod

Firstly though this need at least few ideas:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm So here is why Michelle is bad.

1. Her reads and "pushes" have been her just piggybacking off of others. She was just a supporting role, never a force in the decision of a wagon being created and all of her scum reads only arrived after others have suspected the said player. Thus the supporting role she has been. The only I guess original, if that, was the Fayt vote. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 70#p556470 this was based on pure bullshit. Just pure bs. I can't count this. It's still a supporting role push cause it only came after LC taked about Fayt being a potential cat.

TMIying Fayt villager rn?
Also what supportive role means in mafia? What crime brings approving a read?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm
2. She tries to cover up her siding with Rej as pocketing when there was no such thing. Rej only mentioned her like twice and that was to ask for thoughts. The only thing else was that gth "ok" read he gave to her and multiple other players. You cannot tell me you'd be pocketed cause of this. Here, read. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 85#p554985 http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 63#p555063 I don't buy it. Especially the last one, no reads of her own, just sides with Rej cause she town reads him. Shit, if that doesn't sound like 2 scum buddies trying to help each other, I don't know what does.

The only post i've read before defending Rej was Rej's post because he pinged me.
Pocketing has many levels. A ping is pockety by itself.
You don't buy it? I didn't sell anything.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm
3. Her progression of reads on me is asinine. I know this sounds like omgus. I don't care. The progression was scummy. So I will use it against her. She went from a hard town read on me http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 21#p556021 to scum reading me. Yes, I know that reads can change but for her, there was just no progression in it. It was sudden. This also supports the supporting role theory I have on her as she's just been supporting the notion of me being scum. If half the players in this game didn't sus me last DP, she wouldn't either. I guarantee it.

Now, this is my case. Make of it what you will.

My read on you was based on tone and feeling. Now i see you are pushed flipped villagers and have a Fayt dog TMI read. Maybe my feelings are off but my logic is solid.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:04 am I hate how you guys throw away your correct tone reads to make a logical case for whatever reason.

sometimes logic is the last weapon

When I saw Drago and Nutella flipping dogs i knew that the night kill will be the only confirmed from us.

Is midnight at me, i will start reread and post in the morning. And my day will be short because i'll go to the theatre at 8 pm so i will miss end of day most probably.

I want to interact directly with both of you, Fayt was Jay's suspect and survived that day lynch and Nova, who was never suspected during the game.
I am lost. None of you knows me, playing previously with Nova doesn't help too much.

I am a dog, if my word counts, alas in mafia doesnt, and I am lock villager in my eyes. I didn't have am agenda so when i suspected Long Con and i realised he may be dog i gave up and searched the last cat elsewhere.
I am also villager because i was an idiot in day 1 defending the obvious mafia (i know if at least i would read Rej's posts i would notice that something is off). I would not openly defend him like that, i would vote the same but with other words. My posts back then shows i had no idea my friend Rej is mafia.
And when Dragomir had his case on Epi even if i disliked Epi's posts i found him not cattish and didn't go in that direction.
I was wrong about Jay and that pissed me enougj to blind me and start to suspect Dragomir very much.
I voted yesterday with the conviction he will flip mafia.
He posted honest and i was again an idiot.

This is all from the top of my head, and unfortunately I need to sleep rn :/

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:42 pm

thank you sir

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:54 pm Kind of stopped getting those vibes later on, especially with D3 and how she was handling Jay. Felt like she was talking herself into voting him and beating around the bush with questions about his PoE. Cooled off D4 and later on

Yes I have a playstyle with errors.
Villagers can make mistakes and also they can find each other in lylo.
From what you posted until now you didn't make up your mind isn't it?

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:09 pm It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.

Do you know who the last two dogs alive are?

Nova, i had to trust someone , and LCs words felt honest. I am playing by feeling and logic. Now i have a logic and i want to post it.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:20 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:17 pm Nova, i had to trust someone , and LCs words felt honest. I am playing by feeling and logic. Now i have a logic and i want to post it.

Give me some quotes of that time.

i can't man is midnight, i barely see. That's why i said i will play in the morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:27 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:14 pm

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:09 pm It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.

Do you know who the last two dogs alive are?

I'm Dog. I don't know about you or Nova but I believe you more than Nova at this point.

I could be wrong though :/ Maybe you're the one fooling me but the only one I know is myself.

i was talking about the dog breeds still alive. Sorry my thoughts are hard to put in english at this hour.

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim

nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.