The Syndicate

good night

Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim
nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?

Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?

Well... i have a problem reading your walls in the previous page. I am always on mobile and i often use spoilers to can read easier.
Fayt said her mobile is at 5% but she doesn't bother to use spoilers instead scrolling so much :/

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:34 am It's getting late over here

go to sleep we can talk when you wake up

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim
nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?
Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?
I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.

You knew that or not when i asked?

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:44 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim
nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?
Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?
I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.
You knew that or not when i asked?
I did yeah. I know of my role and the last dog role.

thanks. I will start rererad and catch up what you posted overnight.

What made you going stright after Nova at SoD?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 am Hit me up with the quotes when you settle down. I want to see what happened there.

working on it. without a multiquote button is pretty hard to copy paste on notebook -_-

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:08 am Reading up on Epi's ISO, he had beef there and it might be the reason behind the drowngrade

What and who's downgrade?
i would appreciate if you make sentences like i am 5 y o because i have posts i understand nothing from you. Thanks.

These posts came into my head as genuine. Scum would be more explanatory from what i know.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 pm Fayt has not posted at all in Day 3. Silenced?

This post is interesting.
Before i go searching, is true i think, why don't you have posts d3 Fayt?

Question for Nova, you sent me to search Long Con's posts and you are looking into Epi's Iso.
Instead searching what townies had to say isn't more accurate to scumhunt by rereading the Iso of flipped mafia? Just saying.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:53 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:40 am These posts came into my head as genuine. Scum would be more explanatory from what i know.
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Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:11 pm I don't think I tend to put a lot of energy into *seeming* Civilian.
this is a mindmelt with my playstyle. I don't post to look villagery. He said it before, i know, but saying it again was a good thing for me

Yeah that's one of the reasons I townread him, I remember mentioned it to you but you said that everything I like him for, you dislike him for. Why was that?

i had the logic (prooved wrong) that the counterwagon was for mafia. This happened in that day but i reconsidered it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:05 pm Worthy of thought.

Rej lynched by a single vote on day 1.

Flipped wolf on his wagon.

Why did Speedchuck not just vote for LC?
It looks like speedchuck was gone from the thread before the LC thing really became viable.
The logic here was good and the wording as simple as it is was made me thinking I was wrong about him.

What do you mean?

I liked the post and I thought i could be wrong about LC

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:08 pm I'm feeling it's LC.
It's not me, nut.
Again, as scum he would add a lot of reasons. He is slightly pockety by calling Nutella 'nut' but as scum the pocketing would be different.

Hmm sure, I can see that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 pm Fayt has not posted at all in Day 3. Silenced?
This post is interesting.
Before i go searching, is true i think, why don't you have posts d3 Fayt?
My posts are in green inside the spoiler.

answered in brown inside the spoiler. I thought green is for out of game communications. I don't like the use of the green to give the town impression for yourself. this is like a subliminal commercial tbh.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:50 am Question for Nova, you sent me to search Long Con's posts and you are looking into Epi's Iso.
Instead searching what townies had to say isn't more accurate to scumhunt by rereading the Iso of flipped mafia? Just saying.
I've been doing that as well, especially the interactions between flipped Mafia and both of you. What townies have to say is important to get a feel for everything again, also since Epi was killed.

I sent you to search Long Con's posts so that you can substantiate your thoughts on your own naturally, I wanted to see what you found genuine and why. So that I can figure you out and get a better read on you.

I see it diferently. A townie would let me read and wait for my answer. I already said i want to read and catch up and you with that search request broke the flow of my thoughts.
My feeling are going into the idea you are searching the best narrative to win as the last cat.

Nova, I started to doubt my first read since that post. I will not continue to talk im that spoiler.
You dog claimed!
Cool, I have to explain to the last dog why am I innocent and to find the liar between two folks who are saying they're both dogs.

On a side note, Nova, how many games you are alive in lylo between the last 3 standing? Can you link me such game? I want to see if this is your usual approach for this day.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:53 pm
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Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:37 pm Your calm and measure attitude has been kind of giving me the heebie jeebies. It reminds me of The Boys game a little bit when you were scum, especially the way you've been second guessing lynches in a weird fear-mongering way. Instances on both ISOs are very similar. It also kind of sells a gentle and innocent tone that I've been letting you coast on in my head.
On top of being in a new game with new people, and this is the first time that info dumping, no role revealing/claims are allowed which is usually my forte, I'm incredibly unsure.

I can never read you Nova. Your posts seem genuine, it feels like you're scum hunting + tunnel people which is what I'm used to with Town Nova. You are incredibly clean after I read through your posts minus the "switch target with me in case Dom is Pitbull"

But at the same time, I also cannot shake off this gut feeling that you possibly bussed Rej, have people town read you all game so you lie pretty low, and kept me alive.

I've never played with Michelle before. I don't know if her game plan was to completely partner with Rej, tried to go on the LC train to save her buddy, and it didn't work because they didn't grab enough people.

I get having a tinfoil but I promise you I'm town. My town play is always obvious that's why people don't suspect me, especially when I'm not inactive or disengaged. Mac had the same tinfoil last phase and then he read my iso and saw that it's not bussing 'cause it doesn't make sense.

self meta is not convincing me. I need proof by games linked here.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:53 pm
I got the dude lynched and started the game going after him 'cause I genuinely read him as scum, simple as that. And I remember D1 when LC wagon was forming and Jay questioning LC as a viable candidate, I was trying to defend him Also lol at the tunnel, yep that's my town self. It's why I've been going after Dom, sometimes I'm wrong sometimes I'm right.

Wow. You read him as scum and Long Con as town and this cannot be TMI from you.

you said

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:23 am We had already talked about it before you went to sleep, so it's not really something to catch up on.

- i am affraid is not relevant for me, this is self meta and potential TMI.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:18 am Megaman and Ancient Greece for sure

isn't OJ closed site?-_-

if it's possible link them please

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?

Fayt may be defended here as scum mate or to be pocketed. I can't take this post as valid to scum read her.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?
Is the discomfort and waffling something to scumread there?
Sure, if yer a nob.

Someone new to the forum is going to be unsure and discomforted.

Nova asks here a thing not very well related with the initial post from what i see, the asnwer is okay-ish but it feels like an interaction made just to have an interaction. Not game related, something general and with no further questions.

The game related thing was Fayt alignament. I will check in Nova's Iso if he posted more about this thing back then.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 pm LC, nutella, Sprit, TSP, Dragomir, and Michelle. JJJ can be subbed in for either of the last two if I'm wrong about the reliability of character calls.

Oh no is it a salad

@JaggedJimmyJay It's your favorite, POE! Come get it, boy. *whistles*

A mocking post where all his Poe is made by townies.

The JJJ cases
- reposted as reference

Fayt

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Nova

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:49 pm Interactions: speedchuck and novaselinenever

speedchuck

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?

Is the discomfort and waffling something to scumread there?

Sure, if yer a nob.

Someone new to the forum is going to be unsure and discomforted.

That's it. I appreciate the tone of things here for nova.

~~~

novaselinenever

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:29 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:40 pm Scar is the best because he's got Irons

good

Day 0 soul read went wrong. Don't care.

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:57 pm What would happen if we did in fact try to lynch JJJ, Dragomir?

Do you want to?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?

Is the discomfort and waffling something to scumread there?

The latter there is a duplicate, but these fit together as nice little prods into the gritty details of speedchuck's commentary.

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:55 pm How do you feel about Speedchuck after his response to your iso?

nova asked me this after I shared some Day 1 gripes with speedchuck. He's keeping the matter above-ground. I think his approach so far in this review looks authentic.

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:53 pm Speedchuck's someone who I've also been mulling over. His Drago stuff is also in the same veins as Dom, he was shadowing people there and the progression of off him was a little too easy. Also I'm not sure how he ended up on Rej. There was no real conviction behind it or a push at all

Werd.

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:05 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:20 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:07 am speedchuck, why Rej?

Because not Dragomir. Dragomir's current play feels scummy, but doesn't make much sense as scumplay on further reflection.

I buy Dragomir's response to pressure better than Rej's. Rej has been on edge since the first time he was prodded.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:07 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:35 am @Rej what is your absolute favorite thing ever about sprityo in this here game thread?

Gimme a break I cant ISO posts on mobile, can I?

Felt like a disproportionate reaction, hardly worth noting at the time. But it's escalated to the point that he has a vote on you, and that read doesn't seem genuine. He's banking all of his analysis on the one Persona game, which is fallacious as heck. "JJJ isn't doing things exactly like he did in P5" is not a case, it's a justification.

Speedchucks evolution seems well marked here. In fact, he never really jumps on the drago train very hard. Nova, I'm not sure your analysis is fully there.

I don't really like the "current play feels scummy", and how he further reflected on it apparently but it doesn't make sense. Like why doesn't it make sense for him? And where's that reflection at.

I don't mind that his initial take on Rej's thing here, but he seemed to soften up when Jay gave him some more insight on the Persona game and how it was the only game the two player together. It made me think that he didn't really buy his own stuff, and he just pulled Persona out of nowhere.

Dom took speedchuck's side for a moment and nova reinforced his concerns. Continued

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:43 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:02 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Why?

Standard-issue prod. Sure.

~~~

Conclusion: I think this works in nova's favor. I'd be surprised if he's a cat.

Michelle

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:42 pm Interactions: speedchuck and Michelle

speedchuck

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:45 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:38 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:40 pm Scar is the best because he's got Irons

cat-tales detected

What more can you tell me about this here thing?

cats are talking about cats. afaik Scar the lion is just an oversized cat ^^
i will keep my eyes on speedchuck

That's cool. I collect eyes.

Day 0 banter here, though Michelle does voice suspicion of some kind in there (highlighted). I don't care about this much in isolation. Continued

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:18 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:51 pm Also about Rej, he pinged me to see me posting. This is not a scum behaviour and that post, the first i've read, sounded okay. Not a Rej scum read yet either. Ftr anytime i was villager i could read him and he knows it. Scum Rej would not @ me.

Do you have a past with Rej or is this just commenting on general scum behavior, with Rej trying to further conversation instead of letting you stay quiet?

speedchuck prods into Michelle's defense of his teammate with a pointless softball question. Part of me feels he was trying to set the table a bit to make her look like a dope when Rej flipped cat.

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 pm LC, nutella, Sprit, TSP, Dragomir, and Michelle. JJJ can be subbed in for either of the last two if I'm wrong about the reliability of character calls.

Oh no is it a salad

JaggedJimmyJay It's your favorite, POE! Come get it, boy. *whistles*

Michelle is featured in the six-player POE. Sure, whatever.

~~~

Michelle

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Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:18 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:51 pm Also about Rej, he pinged me to see me posting. This is not a scum behaviour and that post, the first i've read, sounded okay. Not a Rej scum read yet either. Ftr anytime i was villager i could read him and he knows it. Scum Rej would not @ me.

Do you have a past with Rej or is this just commenting on general scum behavior, with Rej trying to further conversation instead of letting you stay quiet?

yes. we played few games on my homesite and his homesite. He is a very intuitive and good reader when he's villager. This is not pocketing i saw him as host and i was impressed

Her response to the above. It's exactly what it ought to be, which means little to me.

~~~

Conclusion: There's not much here. I feel vaguely better; I welcome feedback as WIFOM comes into play. She's another fringe suspect.

the conclusion for me made my head explode. He felt better about me but kept me in the Poe. I can't trust his reads because he was wrong about me. But in the same time he may be right and i am searching for nothing.

Fayt why didn't you vote in day 3?

Speaking about Rej I'll never do the mistake to judge him lightly because this became like a punishment for me, to play in f3 as not cleared villager and search itt all day -_-

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Reading very fast the above post i took the @ as invite to play, so as townish pocket attempt. In reality he wanted to ML me asap. Thanks @Rej, shame on you tbh
The bolded is like he put equality between Dragomir and Nova. Above he has Spiryto and me linked suspected and we are both villagers, and after he puts Drago and Nova in the same tier as villagers.
Why wants scum Rej to put Nova as villager here?

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:00 am JJJ and Mac look worser than before.
Fayt is ok.
Epi is also ok.

And here he posted an OK for Fayt. And Epi

i can say i feel lost.

These next 2 posts i quoted tp have them close but i will comment on them im other post this is hard to do on phone because is already huge

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:04 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm Rej, as far as I am concerned your vote is on Dragomir right now. You're exploring ideas and asking questions, but the day is over in less than 40 minutes. Who do you want to lynch?

I have my vote nowhere for exactly such a moment. We can agree on doing the Long Con gamble lynch. Else my lynch would be wasted on others I feel, in a sense that we can't get enough votes maybe.
So my vote on Long Con should be bringing us forward.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Gonna take a smoke, gonna check all 5 minute instances.
Why not Dragomir? You had a case for him more than Long Con and you call it a gamble for LC so that means you're unsure of him right?

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:51 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:47 pm I have mild concern about Fayt's initial conditional reading of Dragomir and I (in terms of whether we're teammates instead of whether we're dogs or cats in isolation). It's not a remotely confident read. Fayt can have another day to get acclimated with the place.
What is the concern there? Reads to me like someone who thinks two persons aren't team-compatible with how they interacted with each other.
Well sure, that's the message they were conveying. The concern I have is that it doesn't actually amount to a read on either of us. If Dragomir is town, I can be mafia. If Dragomir is mafia, I can be town. Or we can both be town. Okay? Pick one. It leaves a lot of avenues open.
Perhaps I've said it wrong. I just didn't think you guys were both cats if the event Dragomir flips scum.
cuz I hold respect for Dragomir and he was proactive early, even if spilled some shit, he also probably isn't in the mood to do so. I would never obviously save a scummate. if Dragomir had a bad day he would tell his scum mates "yeah it is okay, just vote me, I will be fine".
#metareadsofmillenium

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:15 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:04 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm Rej, as far as I am concerned your vote is on Dragomir right now. You're exploring ideas and asking questions, but the day is over in less than 40 minutes. Who do you want to lynch?

I have my vote nowhere for exactly such a moment. We can agree on doing the Long Con gamble lynch. Else my lynch would be wasted on others I feel, in a sense that we can't get enough votes maybe.
So my vote on Long Con should be bringing us forward.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Gonna take a smoke, gonna check all 5 minute instances.
Why not Dragomir? You had a case for him more than Long Con and you call it a gamble for LC so that means you're unsure of him right?

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:51 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:47 pm I have mild concern about Fayt's initial conditional reading of Dragomir and I (in terms of whether we're teammates instead of whether we're dogs or cats in isolation). It's not a remotely confident read. Fayt can have another day to get acclimated with the place.
What is the concern there? Reads to me like someone who thinks two persons aren't team-compatible with how they interacted with each other.
Well sure, that's the message they were conveying. The concern I have is that it doesn't actually amount to a read on either of us. If Dragomir is town, I can be mafia. If Dragomir is mafia, I can be town. Or we can both be town. Okay? Pick one. It leaves a lot of avenues open.
Perhaps I've said it wrong. I just didn't think you guys were both cats if the event Dragomir flips scum.
cuz I hold respect for Dragomir and he was proactive early, even if spilled some shit, he also probably isn't in the mood to do so. I would never obviously save a scummate. if Dragomir had a bad day he would tell his scum mates "yeah it is okay, just vote me, I will be fine".
#metareadsofmillenium
This doesn't make any sense. You're talking about a "gamble" when voting LC, while you've been saying that Dragomir is a scum lean. What's your case on LC?
Long Con just gave fuel to Dragos lynch and to my Wagon. He is like a literally Arsonist, the way he played this DP.
Now make your own read about Long Con

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:51 pm Has Michelle played another game here that isn't Girl Genious?

no but i can link you my MU games

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:29 am Fayt why didn't you vote in day 3?
Day 3 was the tie plan between me and JJJ. I originally thought that would clear me or JJJ but I was wrong. The mechanic doesn't clear anyone. At the time the votes were me: 3 and JJJ: 3 but then Dragomir switched at the last second to JJJ so it made me: 3 and JJJ: 4.

idk if that was the last second. But why a vote on host and not on another scumread in your Poe?

Btw link me please a scum game and a town game, i hope is allowed

a full town game
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... es-Re-Rand

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Hitters-V
last wolf game if needed

and who you are? is there an Iso possibility?

Reading Nova's posts

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:53 am
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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:57 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:18 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:20 pm I don't get the scumreads on Dragomir. Sounds a bit forced by JJJ and novas, also it was quite a speedy jump.

Mac is looking OK

There was a thing with Sprityo and Michelle that bothered me. They just quoted each other and then dropped the D0 fluffing. It gave me a "picky" vibe.
I really wait for @sprityo and @Michelle post to deduct further about their alignment in the game.

Again about the above tizzy I feel like JJJ is town. It fits with his previous townplay of engagin agressively to collect as much data as possible from something, I like it and I wanna see more of it through the course of the game!

I am too tired to read a wolf in Drago or novas, in best case I want them to be town with us.

I will go sleep now, I hope I won't have to catch up that much pages when I am at work after I woke up.
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Forced how?

Because they came too quick. Drago is easy to discuss and have a wagon formed on. Both civ and scum might know this.
Forced means that they're unnatural, so fake. How can JJJ be a town feel then?

the bolded gives me pause tbh

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am [VOTE: Rej] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:44 pm I like Fayt. They seem to be unsure about a lot of things and trying to go through different scenarios and how that would affect their stances. I don't feel like it's some manipulation or with ulterior motives to keep their options open, especially with how they seem to stumble to articulate their thoughts. It strikes me as natural, and not something fabricated.

in the following post Speed says he don't want to lynch Fayt. In the thread's flow this looks worse for Fayt Because Nova was saying something pro-Fayt 2 minutes before and the necessity of the defence coming from JJJ voting for Fayt was not needed if Fayt were villager .
idk..

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Also why to question as mafia the vote for a villager? The only meaning I can find is that Nova asks this as villager for a villa read. *shrugs

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:55 pm How do you feel about Speedchuck after his response to your iso?

is natural for mafia to ask this about a mate?

is no way i can read all game without the Iso possibility
What i see is you previously played with Nova, in one game he is villager in the other his flip is not revealed.
What role was that?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:24 am Hmm that scum game reminds me of GG. You seem to be kind of under the radar as scum, and have a serious attitude in a down to business way. Also shy with your votes looks like. Kind of different from the vibes I was getting early on here with a more free attitude and interactive.

I am a free villager always. My interaction with JJJ was because he wanted to restrain my freedom by putting me in the Poe.

my time to play is short, i have few homechores i need to do and after i will go to the theatre and that may end after endgame

From all i have read until now my honest thoughts towards Nova changed since this morning because i found few ideas that doesn't fit as scum behaviour. I started by suspecting him tbh because he voted Dragomir in the last day, the same Dragomir he defended in the previous day.
Side note, Dragomir was host in 2 games on my site one where i played as independent in an original setup and one as villager. My playstyle is always changing and his meta read is old. The Tos game we played recently is not valid as meta because i had just few posts and suceeded to mantain my town presence in little words.
I linked you my last town game because of that.

yay register on a new forum. mmkay

you know what? i made a mistake in registering and i have to do it again but not today. I am sticking with this game.
Looked at few random posts (page 42 and around) and noticed a not stressed player posting with that username. Site difference though may change meta so i don't think at first game here Fayt would play the same like in her homesite no matter alignament.

Nova tell me please why you went for Dragomir yesterday? You had him as strong villager in the other day.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:06 am Nova tell me please why you went for Dragomir yesterday? You had him as strong villager in the other day.
Post above.

i reformulate and please answer and don't send me to search because i have zero time left:
Why you voted yesterday for Drago after you had him as villager in the previous day?

Fayt what language is your native?

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 am Fayt what language is your native?
vietnamese

thanks. mine is romanian.

where is your head at rn?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:06 am Nova tell me please why you went for Dragomir yesterday? You had him as strong villager in the other day.
Post above.
i reformulate and please answer and don't send me to search because i have zero time left:
Why you voted yesterday for Drago after you had him as villager in the previous day?
Because of the info Nutella shared and Mac's case, and how he didn't bother defend against them afterwards. I started to doubt him and thought maybe my meta read and feelings are wrong.

Are the posts i consider townish from you out of your scumrange?

Tbh i could read exactly nothing. I am as dumb as i was 12 hoirs ago.
Dragomir last read on Fayt was villager. The fact that anyone else didn't vote for Fayt and didn't brought up she is scum is not helping at all.

And Nova is like umiversally town read. Exactly this is a problem by itself Do scum kill Epi before Nova?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:22 am Michelle you seem to be way more active in that MU town game compared to the scum one and Genius Girl on here. Is activity usually alignment indicative for you?

in a way yes. Each time i rand scum RL comes as demanding and i finish by making a fool out of myself itt by low posting and defending myself by Ate-ing
(Ate= appeal to emotions)
As villager i always find moments to say something even of it's an idiocy like at Eod 1 here.

You know for a player so experienced your today is non commital. I dislike this and idk what to vote. I hoped you can make yourself lock town in my eyes and instead of that you are wishy washy

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:51 am I've been over at animebase looking over your old games and that SK game where you were scum doesn't really resemble GG or that MU game.

Each games adds to my playstyle a layer i am not even conscious of. No game is the replica of another

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:06 pm I'm back

me too. looks like it was without pauses and ended sooner as expected.

what's up with Rej posting -_-

[mention]Fayt[/mention] when you started to play mafia? You mentioned a short time of playing

what about you Nova?
What is happening if i don't vote?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:32 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:26 pm what about you Nova?
What is happening if i don't vote?
Started playing last year.
Think it'll be an rng coin toss. Why would you do that though? Vote Fayt.

no is not RNGed Is win for cats and our host said it clearly :/

Look i asked Fayt in the morning if she knows the alive dogs and she considered i want her to claim and was ezitant. You posted very quick the remaining breeds.
You know who keeps track of who's alive as role? I had no idea who the other except me is tbh. But mafia have to know who's who and try to hunt roles for best NKs.

And now you just said if i don't vote is RNGed which for a person so interested in the game is very curious.

I am ready for anything.
Fayt was JJJs first suspect. After she was cleared by Dragomir who considered her villager.

[VOTE: Fayt] aubergineokay. JJJ has now his lynch he wanted to have so badly

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:46 pm I am ready for anything.
Fayt was JJJs first suspect. After she was cleared by Dragomir who considered her villager.
JJJ is wrong about me. I'm town and he was wrong about you too.

how do you know i am villager?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:59 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:55 pm [VOTE: Fayt] aubergineokay. JJJ has now his lynch he wanted to have so badly
Well with the way you've been prodding me really makes me think you're good, so yeah this is it

i have such a headache that mafia is the last thing i want rn tbh.
This game wasn't good for me no matter the result. I am sorry i played so bad.

Nova if she is mafia because you're voting her, she KNOWS you are dog. Why to say this to her?

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