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by Michelle
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:28 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

sprityo wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:56 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:46 pm
sprityo wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:39 pm SO that leaves me to these questions

Why are nutella and juliets town together?
What is the case on 112?
What is up with Michelle and Elephant?
Who am I wrong about from TS?
You are wrong about Pawn, he has not scum agenda. I can eat my shoes if Pawn is scum.
Also I have as scum reads Elephant since day 1 and Dom since day 2..
There is not Michelle and Elephant btw is Michelle villager vs Elephant scum.
sorry i shouldve put "between" not "and"

so Elephant and Dom in place of Pawn. Interesting. This is after Dom's day 2 which i know you were there for, but Dom was also around for Day 3 and Day 4 with Epi, iaafr, and Jack. Have you asked them about Dom yet or are you firmly planted in that he's scum?
Everything i read and today interaction made that read stronger. For me my friend Mendel (Elephant) is lock scum.
by Michelle
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:33 pm
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juliets wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:59 pm Also, I had a town read on Michelle day 1 and with her content today I still think she's town. The scum Michelle I saw in the last game I played with her would never have poked and prodded and posted this much (I was scum with her).
thanks for meta, is correct
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:04 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:17 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:10 am
juliets wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:08 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:37 am Morning Juliets ^^
Nutella told me you have a TR on Dom and she trusts you. While we were in the dream thread I had nothing to do but think at the sorrounding players. We were few and Dom sticked out as scummy like a sore thumb.
What gives you your TR on him?
Good morning Michelle, it's not Dom I town read. I can't even remember what he posted day 1 and haven't been with him since. Right now I'm not claiming to have a TR on anyone in my group as I want to re-evaluate everyone (I think I stated this earlier) no matter how strong my town read was in the past days.
@nutella you said Juliets TRs Dom? I think you have old news :p
Literally no idea what you're talking about. I think you must have misread something somewhere. I've only talked about juliets in connection to elephant.
you are right, i confused the 2 idk why in that moment of posting, i searched your post and put it in spoiler
Spoiler: show
nutella wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:30 pm Evenstar, Lexi, 112, Jack and Elephant gg.
I wanted to lynch elephant for a couple days and had a huge theory on him, but he is town according to juliets so I backed off. They have some link and part of my theory was that he had pocketed her, bit she insists that's not the case
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:07 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:58 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:41 am @Master Radishes when you come back please reconsider that hidden and tricky mecanics may exists and your base to consider one of you 3 scum including you is alike Vanity not self pressing at Eod.
This is not pro town play. At least not for me.
I am not a player to say nice words and I am not a good enough english speaker to be at a higher level but I am not an idiot and at logical level I am usually right. Please reconsider and vote the scummiest player, not from my top town reads ofc :)
If you're implying that one of Sprit/Eva/me is not scum because of 'tricky mechanics' you're wrong. If it turns out all three of us as town that is when I start calling this a bastard setup.
why you put yourself in a trio when you think one is scum? If you are villager aren't you clear for youself? This looks politically correct and Vanity made a similar thing when he didn't self press but wolves are happy for that and maybe will take advantage again.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:09 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:06 am hello @Michelle, it's been awhile. may i ask your current thoughts on long con?
morning sir, my yesterday toughts for LC were a town lean. I have too much to read tbh to make a proper read.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:16 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:23 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:15 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:07 pm
sprityo wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:39 pm SO that leaves me to these questions

Why are nutella and juliets town together?
What is the case on 112?
What is up with Michelle and Elephant?
Who am I wrong about from TS?
- I just have reason to believe juliets is town. Nothing to do with me specifically. But supposedly if she is to be trusted, Elephant is town as well. I am still not 100% sold on that but taking her word for it for now.
- idk there are a few things, currently (from stuff she said last night mostly) I think she's just town
- eh they misread each other a bunch
- Jack is scum (plus I'm not 100% sold on Mac and LC but leaning town)
nutella, I'm reconsidering all my reads or things I thought I knew so if you feel strongly about Elephant don't let me stop you.
Mmmmm okay thank you. Eva is still my priority for today but I will keep that in mind. Elephant remains on my list. @Michelle I think you may be right even if I didn't think your reasons were strong. I have other thoughts about scum!Elephant (read my d3-4, or maybe just d4 idr, if you are curious).
I see you see him scum, why not voting him?
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:19 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:30 pm Still re-reading, but,

@Michelle, I'm tunneling Elephant now too. Scummy af.
i know this, i remember you had a SR on day 1 too
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:22 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

for this forum users, is normal when i reply to a post who contains a tag that that tag to pop up blue and covering your text?
And if I press enter that tag is self inserring in my message without shame.

It's very annoying and looks like a bug
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:24 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:19 am then again i dont actually TR elephant so it's fine. also michelle, you should check the poll before talking about votes, nutella's currently voting elephant.
i just woke up, I am still not used to this forum.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:27 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:20 am maybe i should tr elephant though... cuz long con's on him... and im not sure all the pressure on him is all town...
Elephant is so independently scummy that this doesn't really matter. Being this game so fragmented I didn't make associative reads and I have independent SRs and TRs.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:32 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:26 am desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar
what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:38 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:34 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:32 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:26 am desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar
what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.
elephant is not cleared id just rather flip longcon first

im not totally confident on hyena or quin

has quin done any solving you like especially? or has he towntold in other ways?
You have a natural tendency to tinfoil things. I have a TR on Quin and one of the reasons is lack of agenda. Elephant has an agenda and it's visible.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:42 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:35 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:31 am Good, you acknowledge it is. Even if LLD is scum, and with how much I agree with her general sentiments I'm considering it super likely. It isn’t her modeling off you, it’s genuine annoyance regardless of alignment.
*not considering it super likely

One missing word changes that sentence's meaning a lot.
morning Pawn, I know my message was long ago, so i'll ask again, what do you think about Elephant and Dom who are my top SRs?
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:49 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:39 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:38 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:34 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:32 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:26 am desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar
what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.
elephant is not cleared id just rather flip longcon first

im not totally confident on hyena or quin

has quin done any solving you like especially? or has he towntold in other ways?
You have a natural tendency to tinfoil things. I have a TR on Quin and one of the reasons is lack of agenda. Elephant has an agenda and it's visible.
spell it out for me
He tunneled Vanity for days and succeded to lynch him.
We argued 24 hours ago and he played dumb at my questions, tried to shade me and refused to talk about his reads.
He accepted to told me about Nutella, said she is cleared with 2 other players, and after said Nutella is suspicious, after posting that Nutella may be a wolf even if he in his head has her in town core. The exactly wolf tactic to mess up the reads on someone and to express further shades.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:52 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:48 am if michelle is scum, which im also currently considering

i think her read on quin feels more like spew than partner defense

but if shes not and shes genuine then it means nothing for my reads
if I am scum lynch me today. Actually I prefere to die myself first than see another mislynch set up by scum and approved by town like Vanity's. Reading that Eod made me boil of rage.
Of course the flip of scum would be better so I would prefere to lynch Elephant.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:54 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:50 am sorry, i dont quite feel it. im going to stay on long con.
can you link me your case on LC to read it? searching on phone is a pain. Thanks
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:00 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:55 am elephant's push on vanity feel's like a town's push on town more than a scum's push on town. that's my current opinion, if youd like to quote any posts of his to try and change it, you are welcome.
no. It's an useless work today, maybe useful in f3. You are blinded by something but this is okay for me, is Sunday and i will not spend my day to case a guy who make me think in direct interactions he is lock scum.
You let his nice words to change your reasoning while facts are more important.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:06 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:56 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:54 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:50 am sorry, i dont quite feel it. im going to stay on long con.
can you link me your case on LC to read it? searching on phone is a pain. Thanks
it's not a very deep case, i just feel a lack of depth in his gameplay and like
Long Con wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:50 pm
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pm ok finally worked up the will to log in

who should I sheep

first one to mention me with a good reason gets my vote
@iaafr your style early game was all over the place. You would place reads on players, only to flip those reads right after. Was that to make yourself intentionally difficult to read? Do you intend to keep that playstyle going?
this quote in particular pinged me as a forced empty question that i dont actually see the protown value of or any particular drive to read me

no real followup either

does not seem to be naturally curious or wanting to solve peoples alignments in general.
welcome to awkwardness of not MU players. You would lynch all lazy townies who don't like you?.I don't know if LC is villager now but I tinfoiled him heavily in the previous game for posting like that and he was just villager.

This is completely NAI sir, I thought you have something stronger.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:07 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:05 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:55 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:39 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:30 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:22 am
Spoiler: show
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:13 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:59 am

It looks like you are scumreading me because
a) I pushed vanity for three days,
b) I feel very frustrated that vanity did not turn out to be the scum lynch we needed,
c) I survived the night,
d) you had more information and a better read on Quin than I do.
Is that correct?
no
1. you succeded to finally push your narrative on Vanity
2. you are not frustrated at all. wanna know how a frustrated townie looks like? I may give you a hint but may be ban worthy.
3. You complained about that being last post, mafia usually says such things.
4. i played with Quin previously. he is not the talkative type. More often mafia overexplains like you do.


What do you think about Quin? Pawn? Eve? LLD? TL? Nutella? Don? Jackofhearts?
1. I did not have a static "narrative" on vanity. Each day added new grounds to their scum read.
2. ...
3. The night kills were on town core players until then.
4. Does Quin overexplain as mafia? Does mendel overexplain as town?
1. i don't need to know if your narrative is static or dynamic tbh, i spotted it as scum narrative.
2. you are extremely relaxed and content of the gamestate
3. do you feel yourself as town core? if so, why didn't share oppinions about the players I asked at first glance?
4. Quin? i have town meta, i posted my reason to TR him. Mendel? he's not in the game. What do you want to say?
1. Why is my narrative a scum narrative for you?
2. No, I am not.
3. I felt fairly powerless for most of the game except day 4. I wanted to address your issues with me. I haven't looked at half of the players you asked me about for days, you saw my post on quin,my stance on nutella, and my stance on TL if you ISOd me. Why don't you ask me questions there if that is not enough for you?
4. You did not even ISO me for your case.
1. because is efficient
2. no need to convince me here.
3. i feel in you a powerful player. You cannot be powerless in a madness game except you are hiding TMI and want to show kindness instead of aggresivity as fake feeling. This powerless thingy you're talking about is for me a proof you are content. Town is never powerless. He has logic, votes and still numbers.
4. I will not make that on phone, i quoted the things are essential not your powerwolfing huge Iso
elephant saying he feels powerless resonates with me. it is a feeing that i think is much more obvious from a town perspective in this game.

if you're town, you're in a bad tunnel imo. you could just be scum hiding behind this tunnel though, and im starting to learn more this way.
I am town in a good tunnel.
A powerless player is never town. This is bad Ate
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:10 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:07 am think we see the game differently

wish you'd be a bit more respectful and not repeatedly imply youre obviously right and im obviously wrong in everything
is disagreement a lack of respect?
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:25 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:22 am calling it a night gn
good night
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:36 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Nutella my english misunderstandings are often happening, this is my problem and I know they look odd for natives. My wording lack force sometimes because i have to express myself with the words I know and who are not enough. I am a latin languages specialist because all the language I learned in school are latin based like my native language. English is different and I never studied it, i learned it by reading. So to take posts and say what I feel about them is always hard for me. Regarding Elephant I choose posts I can talk about, I know he has many posts more relevant for a scum case against him.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:55 am
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iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:53 am i just read the parts of the other layer when i was absent, with pawn summarizing the layer he spent with me. it was pretty funny and overall that was an enjoyable read. lld floated the idea that there has to be at least one scum in hyena/dom/michelle and that was her only thought that she expressed in that layer while i wasnt there

also someone for the love of god shoot colin
I agree with you here and the scum is Dom from what i felt while we were in the dream with him.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:13 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:19 pm nutella-- let's focus on something more productive.

is pawn bad or nah
I liked Nutellas answer at this question. Keeping in mind I have Pawn top town and I consider her town and Dom scum this kind of question means for me a shade for both.
For who is productive to instill an indirect doubt? for scum. Who you Dom asking? A consensus TR.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:14 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:09 am I'm supposed to be getting work done but I'm reading random ISOs instead.

Pawn's mafia isn't he?
I can only read Pawn villager after our dream level posts.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:18 am
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

Quin wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 pm but like i will actually fight anyone who tries to lynch nutella right now
This is villagery. For who wants more proof of why is Quin town
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:40 am
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Yes sir I will post my reasons for town Pawn.

Just a logic before i will reread.
When you think at his drop of scum read for Drago you can also think at why he started the scum read so early to attract attention to Drago if he was wolf. As wolf you don't need distancing in day 1 in such game. And he still voted scum isn't it?
Please let the Drago wagon for later in the game and focus on the counter wagon i bet we have wolves there.

In spoiler i copy pasted from my notes the case Epi made for Pawn. The conclusion is objective imo. Spoilered in spoiler the all post because it's not well formatted :/
Spoiler: show
Pawn LeLouch
Spoiler: show

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

Dragomir wrote: ↑Man, so many town reads being handed out like candy over here, there's gotta be some TMI underneath them.

Oh totes. The question is who is truthful and who is TMIing. Considering like half of the players have posted at least some reads by now. And that is something that will take a bit to figure out frankly due to needing more data points and associatives to work with. So it can be a concern but not one that should be at the forefront of your mind until at least D1 starts.

Okay.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Here’s a roughly ordered list from where I’m at now. Will try and write out comments for each person if I can later on but that might need to wait a bit due to school. So here's who I got before I needed to post.

Confirmed Town
Pawn Lelouch

Town
Creature

Town Lean
Master Radishes Love his interaction about Creature’s reaction and hard agree on hating the Sprityo post.
Iaafr
Epignosis
Vanity. His Nook insight is a towny type of insight and I have had that exact view on Michelle before in other games and have had it here already. It just feels like a genuine thought process.
Texas Cloverleaf

Null (+/neutral/-)
Evenstar (+)
MacDougall (+)
Nutella (+) 
Spiny Creature(+) Note I am fully admitting to bias here due to the Hyena interactions but I just love her there, and while the content amount is low due to time, the actual content is good imo.

Benson (neutral)
112 (neutral)
Michelle (neutral) I fully admit I just have trouble reading her.
Juliets (Neutral) This is a weird one for me. Since she doesn’t actually have much content that is actually strong. Like she has it, but it all feels fairly shallow. However, I think her reaction to being stilted is real and as someone who is somewhat similar to that I can’t really endorse scum reads based on that due to not finding them accurate, and yes that does seem to be a fair bit of why people are scum reading her. So two conflicting views null out.
Jackofhearts2005 (neutral) Has the Creature read going for him but otherwise everything else is honestly very meh. It exists but that’s about it.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (neutral) There’s a passiveness and wishy washiness that I don’t really associate with town Nook but Vanity raised a really good point regarding him acting like a town who has been burned before which I can see. Two conflicting views null this out essentially.

Trustworthy Liberal (-)
Elephant (-) 
Long Con (-) 
TonyStarkPrime (-) So TSP has only a few things going on with him. The minor spat with Spiny, the one with me, and the relatively singleminded Juliets push. Spiny is a punctuation read that I find laughable on principle and am ignoring, the one on me I honestly didn't mind outside of his weird last sentence flip where he basically swapped to scum reading me at the end of the paragraph after leading up with town, since that was a strange look. Currently have this as a null - and their current position is currently tied directly to the opposite end as Juliets.

Scum Lean
Sprityo Mostly pure shitpost and the actual content post he put out was basically semi-incoherent when I looked through the ISO. Post #1413 exactly, is enough to drag him to scum lean,
Dragomir

Scum
Hyena
-----------------------
Basically Don’t Exist yet and thus auto null (-) until more content.

DFaraday
Dom
Lady Lambdadelta
novaselinenever
Quin
Rej

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

Long Con wrote: ↑

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

Long Con wrote: ↑

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Eh, fuck it. Both Hyena and Dragomir are fairly low, so I'm willing to take out the creep first. Since while I'm pretty damn sure he's one of the people who have been roleplaying their roles like Mac, he's still gross about it.

What makes you think Mac is roleplaying?

... wait, was it that one weird post way back, where Mac was strangely enthusiastic?

It was more of a series of posts from then but pretty much, yeah.

I think it could be hilarious if I started roleplaying mine. OR I could end up looking like Dragomir. 

Do you think roleplaying is suspicious?

Not at all. When Dragomir is being a creep though when using what I believe roleplaying as an excuse, even as a bad joke, I don't see a reason to keep him around when he's already in my bottom 3 reads.

This is an early vote against Dragomir. The reasoning behind it isn’t strong, but it’s solid for a Day 1. I’m not really sure why Dragomir was “already in [your] bottom 3” prior to the creepiness, so perhaps you could elaborate on that Pawn. 

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

iaafr wrote: ↑hey pawn whatup

which reads of yours should I sheep rn

Drago or TSP are probs my top two scum rn. MR, Creature, Vanity town. Also feeling pretty good about Epi and Texas rn.

Okay.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

iaafr wrote: ↑fuckit bros let's kill drago

Let's go.

[VOTE: DRAGOMIR] aubergine

There’s a measure of enthusiasm here, as Pawn voted Dragomir a second time.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑And thus the triad is broken and I can freely place my vote. Out of TL, Michelle, and Drago, Drago is by far the scummiest imo.

[VOTE: DRAGOMIR] aubergine

Third time’s a charm…

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

Epignosis wrote: ↑

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑

Evenstar wrote: ↑fuck is Day over

You have 12 minutes. Epi and Drago are main 2 wagons.

Like hell.

Off of vote numbers yeah you two are. Unless 112 has made a big enough resurgence to make it a 3 way competition.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑> 112 5 votes

So they have then. 112 + Drago are the main two then.
This might not mean much at first glance, but at the time, I was certainly not a main candidate to be lynched, and I said as much. Why this is significant is that it means Pawn was unconcerned with keeping an eye on the poll in order to manipulate where the votes fell during crunch time.

++++

If I squint hard I could see a Dragomir teammate, but that last point resonates with me.
by Michelle
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
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Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:39 am
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:27 am I've seen Pawn's name appear at the bottom of my screen. Hi Pawn. I actually have to leave now though. :shrug2:
Perfect, I can go back to sleep guilt free!
:haha: that was funny
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Dom wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:38 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:10 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:07 am think we see the game differently

wish you'd be a bit more respectful and not repeatedly imply youre obviously right and im obviously wrong in everything
is disagreement a lack of respect?
:sigh:
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:36 am Nutella my english misunderstandings are often happening, this is my problem and I know they look odd for natives. My wording lack force sometimes because i have to express myself with the words I know and who are not enough. I am a latin languages specialist because all the language I learned in school are latin based like my native language. English is different and I never studied it, i learned it by reading. So to take posts and say what I feel about them is always hard for me. Regarding Elephant I choose posts I can talk about, I know he has many posts more relevant for a scum case against him.
I think you do a pretty good job, tbh.

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:19 am That was 13 pages that were barely worth reading.
Cool!


Can I just say that these posts are kind of just as worthless as the posts you're complaining about? You have control of what is in the thread. Change it if you don't like it.


I struggle to land on someone who isn't Eva. Elephant v. Michelle seemed civ v. civ to me. Can someone explain why it's not?
Thanks for encouragement.

I will tell you why the bolded is wrong. Giving my step by step reads I made in this game, I have Pawn as town and Pawn saying Eve is villager, I would never lynch her today.

aand me vs Elephant is civ vs mafia. Which I think you know because I SR you too.
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juliets wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:19 am @Michelle what makes you SR Dom?
his day on the dream level, I hope I can make a case if I have time.
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Re: I am the Elephant.

Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:18 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:22 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:04 am I can't make much sense of Michelle's D0/D1 ISO, but I found these two gems.
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:19 pm
vanity. wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:13 pm
iaafr wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:12 pm kill Michelle she's not Towny
yeah i'd expect to have a townread on michelle at this point if she were a villa

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine
wait you voted me before reading my Iso? -_-

Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:34 pm
vanity. wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:31 pm i guess michelle is posting more than i know of her scum meta but uhh

no townread still

defaults to a wolfread
omgus suits you
I'd vote Radishes over Sprityo and Evenstar right now, but it's still earlay in the day.
what to do with this gem? What do you see here?
1) You scumread vanity, yet you blame me for the same thing.
2) You criticize vanity for voting without reading the ISO, yet you do the same with me.
3) You shade him for omgus'ing, but he is town; but me omgus'ing makes me a wolf
4) vanity wolfread you.
I will put it as clearly as I can: Vanity is our redirector; I'd bet he redirected your wolf kill onto Tony or Texas, and because you couldn't kill me, you have been pushing this agenda-y lynch ever since.
1. that is old d1 story. reading in d4 I saw he should be saved.
2. I've skimmed it. I have a life tbh.
3. again old d1 early stages
4. so what? village can make mistakes
This is a lie. There is never knowledge from me about Texas until Sod 5 you are spouting nonsenses no offense :/
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Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:23 am
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:03 pm
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:57 am
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:55 am
Elephant wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:54 am
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:39 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:34 am
what do you think about Elephant?
I see someone playing illogically.

Not sure if it's bad, or just illogical.
Could you please point out to me where I've been illogical?
You're voting for Michelle right now, that's a start.
Ok. I like to use my vote at this stage to indicate where my mind is at, and perhaps to get reactions. I haven't been able to put a complete case together, because I am still (!) catching up, but I don't think Michelle has a solving attitude towards me at all, and I scumread that.
I think she's just town who has misunderstood a lot of your replies and part of that is probably just language barrier and part of it is she hasn't had time to look through your whole iso. I don't like that she's so confident on you when she has a flawed and incomplete understanding of you, but I think she's probably just town
I am not a meta person, and I haven played with Michelle as scum (I think), but I believe Michelle is normally not this confident. There is a reason for that, but I agree with you that it might be a towny reason.
I want to trust my gut reads not like in the previous game when I lost in f3 :/
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[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] tell me please where is your head at today
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Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:44 am Since TLiberal is discussed, did @Long Con ever show us perspective in TL's ISO? I know at least one other player promised an ISO, it was either Epi or Michelle, I think?
I did. My SRs comes first, TL will be Iso-ed later.

Logically because he asked me this has a slight TR from me.
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Dom wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:08 am Does everyone know that this game is based on the fact that we lie about each other?
I like you agree you can lie
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:23 pm ....That's not what I asked.

What makes her vote record worse than mine-- someone you were convinced was bad just two days ago?
agreeing you had bad votes. noted
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:25 pm Jack didn't produce much of substance until things boiled over on him in the lower dreams.
He stopped producing, buddied nutella and followed epi's vote on her with zero reasoning.

yuck
time for me to check Jack too.
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:25 pm Jack
sprityo
eva
pawn
iaafr

there be baddies
Whom though? I don't see much content at you.
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Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:53 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:49 am
Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:44 am Since TLiberal is discussed, did @Long Con ever show us perspective in TL's ISO? I know at least one other player promised an ISO, it was either Epi or Michelle, I think?
I did. My SRs comes first, TL will be Iso-ed later.

Logically because he asked me this has a slight TR from me.
I noted that because you doing an ISO on TL tells me if you are doing it from a towny or a scummy perspective. That is why I would like you to do it. It's not even very large.
I can only do it from towny perspective, your shade is useless.
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by Michelle » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am
Dom's Iso is a chain of shades adressed firstly at Iaafr who is my top TR since day 1 with Nutella and Radishes that to mention 3 players.

If we have or not night 2 kills we have no infos, but Nova and Nanook goes to other creepy dream level distinct by this one. No words about everyone else but that isn't worrisome, we know since Boo was mislynched that a thread with normal lynch mechanics still exists and there mafia succeded to push it's narrative.
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
...i'm quite frankly sick of this discourse and want to play the game.
And he played a lot, like we see below:
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
Yeah, I don't love radishes' posts at all.
And that is his last post. What a scum play!

Dom goes near Elephant in my scumpile of players outside the dream and to make them a trio i will add Nova.
Quin wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am
but also like when i have a minute i'll read through who's left and give thoughts now that i'm not buried in activity
@Quin don't limit yourself at the current list, you have to give your ideas for everyone in this thread for me to make a read on you. Thanks for cooperation.
this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.
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sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:01 am Did....did anyone else (besides juliets) read my day 4 post wall or did I just get ignored again? :/

I hadn’t heard anything about it is all. Especially for anyone with Radishes or Evenstar in their scum list or is currently voting them @112
link it please, I am in other Iso rn
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btw I made these posts very easy on computer because I came to work for few tasks. Wow being on PC <3

After I will go and vote (election day in my country for president) so if I am not answering I am busy irl.
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by Michelle » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am
Dom's Iso is a chain of shades adressed firstly at Iaafr who is my top TR since day 1 with Nutella and Radishes that to mention 3 players.

If we have or not night 2 kills we have no infos, but Nova and Nanook goes to other creepy dream level distinct by this one. No words about everyone else but that isn't worrisome, we know since Boo was mislynched that a thread with normal lynch mechanics still exists and there mafia succeded to push it's narrative.
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
...i'm quite frankly sick of this discourse and want to play the game.
And he played a lot, like we see below:
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
Yeah, I don't love radishes' posts at all.
And that is his last post. What a scum play!

Dom goes near Elephant in my scumpile of players outside the dream and to make them a trio i will add Nova.
Quin wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am
but also like when i have a minute i'll read through who's left and give thoughts now that i'm not buried in activity
@Quin don't limit yourself at the current list, you have to give your ideas for everyone in this thread for me to make a read on you. Thanks for cooperation.
this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.
It says "Phase 2", but this is a day 3 post, right? Are you as certain about Dom as you are about me?
Nova flipped town, btw.
yes, how do you know? scumchat told you isn't it?
Almost.
I know, we talked today btw.
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sprityo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am @Michelle see above
thanks I will read it and answer at it.
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taking advantage of pc to write my paper notes

D1 vote count

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf?, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112

D2 vc
[5] boo - Long Con, Hyena, nutella, Benson, vanity.,
[5] DFaraday - Trustworthy Liberal, Creature, juliets,boo , Elephant
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - DFaraday

D3 vc
[1] Creature - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
[2] Elephant - Long Con, vanity.
[3] Nova/Ty4on - nutella, juliets, Creature
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - Nova/Ty4on
[3] vanity. -Trustworthy Liberal, Elephant, Hyena

D4 vc
[3] Trustworthy Liberal - Long Con, vanity., Creature
[5] vanity. - Elephant, juliets, Hyena, nutella, Trustworthy Liberal
non voting - Quin, LLD
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Dom wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:40 am
112 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:11 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:09 pm
iaafr wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:06 pm I was complaining about the weird turn of events

all out d2 is a hypothetical where we had the whole playerlist and weren't restricted by strange rules

I wasn't complaining about the threadstate given the restrictions, I was complaining about the restrictions and the playerpool getting fucked with

but sure yea double down on your bad reading comprehension dude
"my opponents are mean and critiquing me! but they are also illiterate!"

Decide if you're on the civility police task force or not. Your meaning was far from clear. Get over yourself.

You seem to have an awful lot of time to complain about me, but none to rebut Epi's claims that you have quarreled with almost nothing specifically.

Image
iaafr let's get this guy

he's trying to beat your spirit down imo

don't fall for it
This is a bad look for 112.
how come you can quote and I can't?
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Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:28 am
Spoiler: show
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:24 am
Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:15 am
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by Michelle » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:09 am
Dom's Iso is a chain of shades adressed firstly at Iaafr who is my top TR since day 1 with Nutella and Radishes that to mention 3 players.

If we have or not night 2 kills we have no infos, but Nova and Nanook goes to other creepy dream level distinct by this one. No words about everyone else but that isn't worrisome, we know since Boo was mislynched that a thread with normal lynch mechanics still exists and there mafia succeded to push it's narrative.
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
...i'm quite frankly sick of this discourse and want to play the game.
And he played a lot, like we see below:
Dom wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm
Yeah, I don't love radishes' posts at all.
And that is his last post. What a scum play!

Dom goes near Elephant in my scumpile of players outside the dream and to make them a trio i will add Nova.
Quin wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:02 am
but also like when i have a minute i'll read through who's left and give thoughts now that i'm not buried in activity
@Quin don't limit yourself at the current list, you have to give your ideas for everyone in this thread for me to make a read on you. Thanks for cooperation.
this is my first post against Dom. before criticize it think at the low level of info we had in the dream level.
It says "Phase 2", but this is a day 3 post, right? Are you as certain about Dom as you are about me?
Nova flipped town, btw.
yes, how do you know? scumchat told you isn't it?
Almost.
I know, we talked today btw.
Can you please dial down the hostility? Nanook and Nova are mentioned, that's how I know.
"Almost" is not the answer I was hoping for.
The point about nova is that your read on nova was wrong. But then, you weren't very confident on them, so maybe that's ok.
the fact I call you wolf is not hostility, is game my read.

Thanks, your last sentence implies that being my confidence my reads are ok.

Elephant agrees he and Dom are scum
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@Dom please requote your post 99 from dream level. thanks
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Elephant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:58 am Dom is site staff, that's why he can quote. Jimmy wrote it would be disabled, but it apparently isn't.

I missed out on some besoke tantrums last night. Evenstar calming the waters is a good look for her.
yeah this works like our democracy here :|
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work time for me for real.

cya later
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Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:21 pm Elephant:
If you are town, why do you have four votes?
Who is scum on your wagon?

Long Con, iaafr, Michelle, nutella:
Why are you voting for Elephant? What is the scummiest post in his ISO?
Firstly i deleted the @s -_-

And secondly I'll say I posted all I had on Elephant since day 1 today. Shady behaviour since day 1, scum logic and tactics, interactions today with visible intent to shade me and switching to pocketing for towncred, not to mention his wishy washy reads for Nutella, refuse to cooperate by sharing reads.
His scummiest post? There are many for me but read his Iso and don't look elsewhere than your own logic on the game and you will know why I consider him scum.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:37 pm
Michelle wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:31 am Jackofhearts2005 tell me please where is your head at today
Towncore :nicenod:
Jack
Nutella
Mac
Michelle (beyond my original sheeped reasons, I like the Elephant push)
Juliets (but like the green ranger, she’s not quite as core as the others but this feels better with five people and there have been no pings)

Probably Town
Eva (mason?)
Iaafr
Sprityo

Probably town but I’m tinfoiling
Dom
Epi
Radishes (I’m aware I have all of the final 3 in probably town and it is a problem)

Nullish
Quin
TL
Colin

Scumish
LLD
Elephant

Scum
LC
Pawn

I’m sure I’ve forgotten somebody but there’s no poll on the full reply.
Thanks, now I see why Dom pushes you. I have a TR on Quin who is nullish for you and Pawn who is your top scum because of their behaviour in the dream thread.
Elephant is lock scum for me after today's interactions and after the day in the dream level with him I gave him high scum equity
I wish for a consensus wagon for scum today.
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Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:03 pm
juliets wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:08 am From my catch-up, one thing that I think might not be clear is one reason people were looking at TLib as possible scum is because several of us read GH's article Stopping the Juggernaut after we kept mislynching people.

The article is about what to do when from a town perspective the game is going horribly wrong, i.e., how to find the wolves. In it he says "Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn't really pushed. What makes this archetype so important is that it has a high chance of flipping wolf." (There's more about this but this line sums it up.) This described TLib pretty well. He didn't have much to say most of the time but we could see that he was in the thread, he was generally toward the bottom of our list, and we had not pushed him hard. This wasn't the only reason people were looking at TLib but it was one of the reasons I was looking at him.

I urge @Trustworthy Liberal to get more involved today and give his thoughts if he is town. I would like to be able to town read him like I did at the beginning of day 2 after he voted Drago.
Okay am online now and going to try to play for a bit but you are already wrong in this post. The bolded I completely wrong I've been pushed multiple times and been one of the main counter wagon this game also you bringing the article and using I to push me I retrospect is slightly sus I my opinion.

I've had a bad weekend and every time I was able to play people were fighting and seemingly attacking each other I posts some getting personal which I extremely aganist how i ever want to play and why I kinda just walked away for yesterday sorry just now playing with that kinda attatude.
I am strongly against TL lynch today, this post shows no agenda, while scum with visible agenda have town points and free pass.

Time for me to keep my word, i will Iso TL from now on.

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