The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:27 pm I put all the names in Random.org and Master Radishes came up and he's already got the most votes. Universe 1 - MR - 0.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:26 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:16 am How convinced is everyone that Nanook came back in green slot?

I'm letting this sit in the back of my mind. I do feel Nook's playing a bit differently, but there could be a few reasons for that. Also, despite this being my third game with him, we've not played more than, I think, 3 or 4 rounds together due to our various demises.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:29 pm Also, question for everyone: What should be the game plan going forward? Should we try to lynch Radish team and follow those leads? Or should we try to find and expose the other team? Or should be do both/come what may?

I have some thoughts, but I think it's an interesting question.

We've had two GOAT lynches, and the game is still over 36 % scum. That is hilarious and sad. This is what I mean when I say big multiball games should have a multilynch option.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:33 pm

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:22 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:51 pm why does nutella feel off tonally

I'm not seeing any difference.

But, I'm not a huge fan of the Mac switch. Though I do feel like if they were teammates she'd not be so obvious about new opinion.

@nutella For Nutella 1.0 who were you thinking was your mafia targets? I'm assuming you were forming some thoughts there.

I don't understand the question please rephrase

"Prometheus - You can target two players each night. Your main goal is to target each of these roles: Bill Rawls, Serena van der Woodsen, Seamus Fitzroy, Architect, and Lassie. You may choose any of the found roles to die in your place. *secrets*"

Two of the player who your goal was to find are mafia members. So I was just wondering if you had any inclination of who you might have wanted to target if you had the chance.

If that makes sense? Since, at least when I'm third party, I generally focus on whatever goal I have.

Linki: I think we should pursue obvious links to Radish, but be spending most of the next phase trying to hunt the other team and preferably have one of them as a counterwagon. Usually if you eliminate one team the other doesn't inherit the kill so as long as we don't ignore them I'd say full steam on Radish peeps.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:55 pm Michelle: Michelle has what I would consider to be a normal post count by day 3, which makes this easier for me. Early Radishes vote, minor NAI derp, makes some reads against Colin. I think the TMI argument is questionable, but it’s something.
Day 2, after voting Radishes Day 1, votes Turnip. Doesn’t change vote. Susticious. Spends one of few posts Day 2 calling out Mac though, which has to be a good sign. Makes some posts Night 2 saying basically “oh let’s lynch bad guys who are connected to Radish maybe” which is meh. Overall, there are some good posts, but nothing I can glean much information from without better links.
Team A: Meh
Team B w/ Mac: Meh
Team B w/o Mac: Meh

Michelle, come give thoughts?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm I think I like Sloonei, but I don't remember why now.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:22 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:20 pm I've had a hard time making reads this game it's such a big game and so much going on while also balancing real life things. I have a hard time keeping up sometimes and I respond when I'm able to to things that make sense to me. I think mac is going after me because I am easy to go after. I'm not a strong player early game and I know that's a weakness of mine because it takes me awhile to get into it. Also I'd like to point out that mac was town reading me and didnt have any problem with me whatsoever until I voted for him. Then all of a sudden I'm bad because I accused him.

My mind is far from made up at the moment. It would help if you could identify a few town reads that you have so far in this game.

tony because he is way more involved and trying to appear civ when he's mafia from what I've seen.
Juliets seems like she's been putting in effort and trying to figure things out.
Epi seems like his usual.
You now that you've gotten more into the swing of things.
Ted seems okay so far aside from being a little less talkative than I've seen before.
Dom seems more towny this game to me.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:53 am since apparently my inactivity is worrying a few people that i'm calling scum

i have like 39 essays to copy until monday

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:10 pm Do we know how ties are decided?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:37 pm And the reason to vote Mac over Sig is basically game theory of that scum Sig strengthens the case on Mac and town Mac weakens the case on Sig.

No matter what Sig’s flip, we lynch Mac next.

Some Mac flips may make Sig less likely to get lynched.

Ergo, there is no reason to delay a Mac lynch whereas there is a slim chance of payoff if we give Sig another day.

If all likelihood, they are both mafia so the decision isn’t all that important.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm Jack is bad. Sig is town.

Talk to me about these reads.

The primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.

Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.

Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:18 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:12 pm But we need it to be more than that.

@Michelle? @speedchuck?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:01 am There’s a bus driver, talking about vig targets is bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:20 am Michelle

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:13 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 pm @Michelle and @Dom probably should have the same read as me on this.

to search this "this" at 4 am is not actually possible, can you quote it please?

You played scum with Nutella when Jack nailed her out of the box on day 1 in the Aussie game. It should mean something to you because you know how she feels about it. Does what you know line up with how she is dealing with him here to you? Looking at before I called her out on it specifically.

Solely from vibe she puts more feeling here. There it was faked. Usually villagers emotions are stronger.
I would not lynch her today.
For analysing content I need day time reading and now I can't, i barely can stay with the eyes open.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:20 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:13 am I’m on record as being willing to kill drago as well

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:58 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:27 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:26 pmHoly shit.

Welcome Drago.

Hi, what's going on here? I'm not gonna read 35 pages.

@Nanook except he is not playing, what looks like scum for Drago?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:25 am Wait how is Nanook alive?

is this a derp attempt? o.o

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:52 pm Started to Iso Mac on pc but I will have to leave it so I have to post what I picked up

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:27 pm I put all the names in Random.org and Master Radishes came up and he's already got the most votes. Universe 1 - MR - 0.

This is awful for a champion.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

rainbow reads. tells to Sig they are with meme purpose

bbl at this, sorry short conclusion, I am confused by Mac

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:16 pm I just noticed, Radishes didn't vote in his big counter wagon on Mac. I think is important to know Mac's alignament because of that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:18 pm on Mac . .
i am idiot

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:20 pm Anyway I like more that wagon's composition

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:46 pm Good morning, a good one indeed ^^

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:52 pm Jack is bad. Sig is town.

Talk to me about these reads.

The primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.

Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.

Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.

Is this a slip? Not his, but the other scum faction.

Sorry if someone said this already

I'm not getting much from this. Their interactions have been few, and that reflects Michelle's quiet game to this point. Her accusations of Mac don't make me feel anything. I highlighted the reason she provided for voting Mac; I don't entirely understand it. Her vote came about 5 hours prior to EOD. Eh. I'm not inclined to dissociate them.

Conclusion: Decent

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:25 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:18 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:12 pm But we need it to be more than that.

Michelle? speedchuck?

What?

we were looking for people to join the sig wagon for mechanical reasons.

I'm pressed for time. I'd like more than 'mechanical reasons' as an explanation.

but [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

If sig is mafia he has a 50% chance of starting the day with -2 votes on him. If we are inclined to lynch him and neutralize his team today, it is ideal to give him a comfortable lead in the poll.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:24 am I’m not sure why mac flipping the exact role that he is required to be for the “sig slipped” theory to make sense makes it harder to kill Sig, not easier?

I also don’t super understand the demoralization given we just killed a pretty nasty scum role, tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:46 pm Timing is good. Audrey (my first born) just got admitted to hospital. Good luck to my team. Well done to my adversaries.

Wish your kid to be well, this is worrisome

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:59 am I'm just saying if you're really the cop and you have a red peek on a player and can't say so and you're about to get lynched, you go to your grave voting for your red peek.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:33 pm How about a non-speedchucker tell me something about ted.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:19 pm I wish we got three lunches out of the inception thing

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:33 pm How about a non-speedchucker tell me something about ted.

If you think I am a non-speedchucker @ me and I will focus on his Iso tomorow (in 8 hours)

You are indeed not speedchuck. I encourage it!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm We’ve had at least 5 huge wolf wagons at eod.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:46 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.

If speedchuck is scum he’s a lot more comfortable open wolfing than most people are, so I’m going to keep playing the odds and say he’s town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

i wish some details about the Sig wagon please

Dig into it. I’m not certain of anything but that voting Sig over Mac D3 would be really tempting for Mac’s team.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:05 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:46 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.

If speedchuck is scum he’s a lot more comfortable open wolfing than most people are, so I’m going to keep playing the odds and say he’s town.

After I read the last page of Speed's Iso, thinking at how I felt interacting with him in the previous day I think the words Nanook used above matches my ideas.
Speeds effort today shows a civvie spirit imo.

@JaggedJimmyJay I can't make a wall case but the tl;dr is posted by Nanook.

Um, my thoughts pertain to two specific Chuck posts, neither of which especially recent, so....I kind of doubt we share the same opinion if you’re basing that off his recent stuff

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:49 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

I disagree with the scuminess of the analyses, he made them in the game where I lost in f3 because I followed his read and ignored my "what if he's wrong" inner voice. He was wrong but he was villager.

I dislike his wagon today, isn't Sig outed wolf?

Yes he is.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:27 pm I prefer lynching Nanook over JJJ in case that isn't clear.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:57 pm I may not self-preserve. If I am so suspicious that I am out-pacing a confirmed mafioso in the poll, then y'all need to get past me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:02 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

i wish some details about the Sig wagon please

Dig into it. I’m not certain of anything but that voting Sig over Mac D3 would be really tempting for Mac’s team.

D3 I voted for Mac. I don't inderstand, do you mix the 2 wagons, from today and day 3?

Who lynched Sprityo? Do you have the poll?

The votes I listed are from today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

I disagree with the scuminess of the analyses, he made them in the game where I lost in f3 because I followed his read and ignored my "what if he's wrong" inner voice. He was wrong but he was villager.

I dislike his wagon today, isn't Sig outed wolf?

Consider that if Jay is a villager, TH and Colin’s wolf equity both skyrocket and he can at least view all of Jay’s analysis as honest.

And if Jay is a wolf, it will be hilarious that I lynched MAC and Jay over outted Sig.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:14 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

I disagree with the scuminess of the analyses, he made them in the game where I lost in f3 because I followed his read and ignored my "what if he's wrong" inner voice. He was wrong but he was villager.

I dislike his wagon today, isn't Sig outed wolf?

Consider that if Jay is a villager, TH and Colin’s wolf equity both skyrocket and he can at least view all of Jay’s analysis as honest.

And if Jay is a wolf, it will be hilarious that I lynched MAC and Jay over outted Sig.

If you have the slightest idea that JJJ may be villager go vote scum Sig !

We thought Mac might be town or scum. We voted Mac. It worked out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:27 pm Nanook and Michelle defending Jay here is I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T-I-N-G.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 pm do we think the night polls mean anything?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:13 am True but also oh well. We're doing good so I'm not worried. We need to sort everyone out, imo all players deserve a turn in the spotlight so we don't overlook anything. I think Jay looks town atm and that was a good opportunity to put him under the microscope

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:53 am Wow you've got your finger on my pulse. That's exactly what I've been doing.

Poe in the morning