The Syndicate

welp let's dream. I guess we are mixed anway

but firstly being midnight at me i'll go to sleep.

morning. still at page 1. this page is just pure fluff mostly you guys are bored or what?

iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:16 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:14 am morning. still at page 1. this page is just pure fluff mostly you guys are bored or what?

no reaction to what just happened to the gamestate...?

mind blowing happened :/
we have like half of players and we vote secretly without telling itt who we vote.
Funny what can i say :*shrugs

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:17 am iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?

hey

what are your reads

remember to abide by this gameday's rules

if youre listing scumreads you need to list 3+ without showing order between them

From the people in this thread
Evenstar may be scum because i suspected her previous day and she voted last (i think) for the counter wagon, no matter 112s AI she wanted to save her godfather if she is mafia
Nova is scummy and claimed scum. No need to say many words
LLD so complainy is nagl, i skimmed her Iso and saw her role playing as hydra of 4 (i doubt she is a real hydra)

so here i'm at. Ah and Rej's slot may be scum, but i have just 60% in that direction

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:24 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:17 am iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?

isnt this like a weird overreaction to

still kinda think shes scum? ive been on the fence with her the entire game because... i mean her town game has a decent amount of questions which i don't see the value of, but her game this game feels like 80+% questions i dont see the value of, and more of them as a proportion of posts than usual? maybe im just misremembering though. ive only played like 2 games with her, and she was slanky in one (sonic 3/21) and died early in another (d6 light).

this hedgy ass entry?

how is "self meta is trash" even relevant? im not asking for self meta and im not giving self meta...?

my bad.

i wanted to say i dislike self meta and i sent you if your highness wish to check my meta at MU and see it since you don't know it I've read your 'case' it's just like a water pistol.
If you are villager you will try to figure my slot not by meta.

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:26 am good thing im scum and dont have to worry about these kinds of conundrums

now that you said it thanks for the info

]I'm out. your gifs are very disturbing for my eyes, i have a curious sensitivity at rapid movement on screen, and due to it i don't play video games.

@ me if you need me

[VOTE: @JJJ if you want me in your game go spoiler the gifs please and let me know. Thanks] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:01 am Dragomir was a wolf?

derp clear denied, welcome to my Poe

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:01 am Dragomir was a wolf?

derp clear denied, welcome to my Poe

that post is a joke, michelle

he has indicated in earlier posts that he was aware of drago's alignment

oops.. i'll go read then.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:15 pm

Spoiler: show

Subconscious Phase 1
Who threatens the subconscious mind?
Poll ended at Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


112
7
23%
Voters: Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
Benson
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DFaraday
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dom
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dragomir
10
32%
Voters: Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
Elephant
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
1
3%
Voters: MacDougall
Evenstar
3
10%
Voters: Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
Hyena
2
6%
Voters: Dom, Michelle
iaafr
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
juliets
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lady Lambdadelta
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
1
3%
Voters: Dragomir
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
novaselinenever
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
1
3%
Voters: Lady LambdaDelta
Pawn Lelouch
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Rej
0
No votes
Voters: None
Spiny Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
Texas Cloverleaf
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Trustworthy Liberal
1
3%
Voters: 112
vanity.
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Lynch
2
6%
Voters: iaafr, boo
No vote presently/unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
This is ONLY for hosts/non-players
3
10%
Voters: Sloonei, speedchuck, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 31

++++

Subconscious Phase 1
Consolidated tally, easier to read

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112

if we think at gidfather's role as not being so important like Iaafr says then he was maybe bussed, and so we have to tinfoil later in the game his wagon. I would go for agenda-y players before this.

Based on Drago voting Mac i don't know if we can clear him and put him as lock town.

Maybe the godfather has a back up as green peek so Drago played bad on purpose.

I would take more notes too if i knew we cannot see the day 1 anymore, my notes are all until post 900 and after i gave up from lack of time.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:55 am also I think my insight about the rabbit looking for a specific answer and turning on me when he got one he didn't like feels like a red flag you're ignoring pawn

i need few commas in your text, do i undeestand well you are shading iaafr here?

I don't know how much AI are Epi's analysis for who knows him but from my pov i can only see a villager struggling with so much work.

I am glad we have his quotes to work with from day one and i have few notes i need to share with some pics i made on page 62 who became inactive and is blocked on my browser.

Starting with Dragomir
- on post 405 he was complaining about too much content posted,
- liked Juliet's answer in post 418 and i remeber she didn't have a strong stance about the game at start but idk what's about exactly,
- post 448 points out that Nova is a dangerous guy
- 452 asked iaafr if hes 3rd part and this i consider to be a shade because for me iaafr was villagery very early in the game.
- p779 says one player is good guy but i didn't write correct to know who is the guy. I post this to check it if we'll have again day one to reread (if we'll have)
- p 810 to Eve: youre maf and iaafr is T - idk how to take this, it may be a wrong take to trust it
- p826 he gave up to SR 112 based on role playing
and expalins in p849 why 112 is not scum for roleplaying and this is curious because scum would need to shade a townie not to clear him so i think 112 is suspicious going to p852 where he questioned Eve about why she SR 112
- few interactions he had with TSP, in p867 he says he hates how TSP is phrasing and i disliked his tone towards TSP in post 867 like they are probably not same AI

After flip i reread Drago's posts but the Iso vanished at refresh page, all i remember was a mess of posts without certain meaning so my idea is that we cannot trust his Iso to scumread someone because if he wanted to live and go deep he would post better and so i think he wanted to die and set few deep (at least 2) deep wolves based on his flip.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:03 am Epi: I'm not going to waste words: 112 is a good candidate to be aligned with Dragomir, and I do not regret my Day 1 vote in the least.

Immediately after

Iaafr: 112 is clear today as far as im concerned

what about your oppinion?

btw if you post gifs please spoiler them for my eyes (i have health real problem with quick moving images, thanks for understanding)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.

yep.. he worked overnight, few good hours the day 1 was still visible.

Can someone tell me how exactly flipped Drago in flavour's words?

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:30 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.

I asked this question earlier.

My quote post was my draft from night. Don't know how epi put that together unless his being an admin is giving him unfair viewing privileges.

i didn't think at this o.o

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:34 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:29 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.

yep.. he worked overnight, few good hours the day 1 was still visible.

Early birds and all, I suppose.

Can you say it again?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:08 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:38 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:34 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:29 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:27 am How the fuck is Epi doing interactive isos?

Did he do all these during the night phase? I can’t read D1.

yep.. he worked overnight, few good hours the day 1 was still visible.

Early birds and all, I suppose.

Can you say it again?

nvm google helped me -_-

my top suspects after day one one who unfortunately is not in this thread, is Elephant, and like i previously said Evenstar, LLD, Nova and Rej from this thread.

Starting with the Elephant, because i cannot update with present posts the infos and thoughts:
- general non commital posts, a too weak presence and avoiding confrontations with sweet words
- voted 112. flipped mafia counter wagon, I know it's not crucial but it helps
- i will post below few ideas taking one Elephant posts from Epi's day 1 analysis on 112

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:21 pm

Spoiler: show

112

112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:30 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:50 am

112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome

Man, this got all kinds of fakey fakey shit in it. Goddamn.

wrong again, drago

The first interaction is Dragomir giving an over-the-top assessment of 112's post that doesn't quite serve as an accusation and doesn't possess any meat. It goes nowhere.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:50 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:09 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:54 pm but it rly could just be me mindmelding with 112s personality rather than alignment and not doing so with mac and nutella etc

but uh 112s personality here is like my town personality and the timing of that question of that read on nutella and mac was like

its a question id have already asked in this gamestate if i were in a more tryhard/contentforcey mentality

i don't understand the purpose of 112 saying that thing in the first place

i make posts to psych myself up sometimes like when i actually feel like im gonna have a good town game

idk

i relate to the sentiment and find it towny

How do you mindmeld with a personality? That doesn't make any sense to me.

This reaction exists.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:14 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:12 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:07 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:04 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:00 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:44 pm

Read the last page and you'll find out.

I did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?

Then it'd mean no safe claims for scum, meaning 112 isn't roleplaying a safe claim.

Yeah no I don't buy this is a real thought. Scum have to be able to fake the form of a town role PM, or else D1 mass-flavour-claim breaks the game.

No I get I it I think. Drago thought that 112 had a safe claim and was trying to use that to leverage town cred in a way where 112 wouldn’t use the claim to leverage cred if they were actually town. That falls apart if all character claims are random.

tell 'em

There are reasons why I posted what I did. None of them should particularly concern anyone.

This exchange says more about Evenstar than it does 112.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:15 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:17 am Question for all of you, do you guys believe this game would have some fake claims? I personally think yes. It's a big factor in why I suspect 112 as a matter of fact.

Yeah. We had safeclaims in Mass Effect, the last join venture Jay hosted, which also allowed flavor claiming.

But in this game characters are random, in ME like me being shep meant that I was good and you being some bad alien thing meant you were bad

From what I've read of you: you seem too reasonable to be town. What do you think?

In the wake of Dragomir flinging crud at him, 112 expresses suspicion of TSP (Unless "you" here refers to somebody else. ).

112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:20 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:43 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:34 am iaafr

creature
dragomir
michelle
sprityo
benson

evenstar
hyena

null line

112
macdougall
jackofhearts
nutella

why the fuck are both Creature and Dragomir so high here
Also not getting great vibes from benson
Nutella and Jack ought to be higher, too
overall, garbage readslist, making me feel worse about Iaafr

This is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.

I hate the tone of the bolded.

I hate the uselessness of our boldface feature against the dark background.

Again, I'm not sure what to do with this. 112 throws a jab at Dragomir but doesn't elaborate or go anywhere with it.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:27 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:13 am i read you wrong d1 of wc1 too

anyway im over the nutella read

i read hyena's iso and i dont love it and there are a few scummy points

like trying to signal that he needs to interact more with mac before he can develop a read (recently played against a scum who insisted he needed more realtime interaction)
kinda high fluff interaction ratio and his pushes are a bit strange

so something like dragomir/hyena/112 now

still feel 112 is posturey after all and not actually that towny?

i mean theyre promising big so im waiting on the delivery

i like the thought here. drago/hyena aren't terrible picks- as in i can see why you'd have them there, particularly drago. but they're also on the borderline between being good reads for a civilian to push and good reads for a wolf to push if that makes sense. i know you're wrong about me, so that gives me additional pause here.

in the game i remember playing with you, i had a strong and confident town-read on you right up until i was mislynched with you on the wagon. i'm not feeling as confident as i am in you as i was then, and you going back and forth on your read on me--and notably changing it after being called on a potential pocket attempt--makes me wonder.

My my my. 112 likes the thought but pushes against it anyway in the most vapid and ambivalent way possible.

What jumps off the page even more is that 112 has lumped Hyena (alignment unknown) into the same category as Dragomir (mafia). The category itself makes no sense whatsoever, and I have to question the motive behind lumping to the two individuals together in so equivocal a boat.

This is 112's worst post in the wake of the Dragomir reveal.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:40 am Drago calls people on tonal stuff, but his is possibly the worst in the game. Is this an instance of someone accusing others of what they think they themselves are guilty of?

I don't know. Is it?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:55 am i make like 100 posts a game when i'm town that can arguably be read as tmi. i think tmi reads should only be given good weight when they're very blatant. i haven't even read the alleged mac-drago tmi though, just want to say that i can understand why mac might be frustrated here.

I'm going to get to MacDougall, but this exists and like the question above, does nothing to express a concrete opinion on Dragomir.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:33 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:56 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:17 am

Spoiler: show

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:27 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:13 am i read you wrong d1 of wc1 too

anyway im over the nutella read

i read hyena's iso and i dont love it and there are a few scummy points

like trying to signal that he needs to interact more with mac before he can develop a read (recently played against a scum who insisted he needed more realtime interaction)
kinda high fluff interaction ratio and his pushes are a bit strange

so something like dragomir/hyena/112 now

still feel 112 is posturey after all and not actually that towny?

i mean theyre promising big so im waiting on the delivery

i like the thought here. drago/hyena aren't terrible picks- as in i can see why you'd have them there, particularly drago. but they're also on the borderline between being good reads for a civilian to push and good reads for a wolf to push if that makes sense. i know you're wrong about me, so that gives me additional pause here.

in the game i remember playing with you, i had a strong and confident town-read on you right up until i was mislynched with you on the wagon. i'm not feeling as confident as i am in you as i was then, and you going back and forth on your read on me--and notably changing it after being called on a potential pocket attempt--makes me wonder.

This is the only literate post of 112 to date, I believe, and it stays fairly non-committal.

@112 , I would like to know your opinion on Benson, Master Radishes, iaafr, nutella, and Epignosis. What are their alignments, and how are they connected?

@112

they're probably all town and connected by the interconnectivity of the universe.

This reflects well on Elephant. Also note that I am good here but I became a suspect of 112's for my "lazy list."

The idea of the only literate post by a player is heavily shady no matter AI but i often saw wolves downgrading posts made by town. This strikes me as rude in the usual sweetness of Elephant words and feels unnecessary. The fact he asks oppinions about iaafr i have a TR for and also Radishes who looked very decent all day 1, Nutella who's analysis on me were accurate and not pockety, and Benson and Epignosis who seems leaning town (more sure about Epi rn) so he is questioning 112 about my TRs, this rings a bell for me

I don't get why @Epignosis gives him a good look, but for me he is top scum because my gut read is aligned with my logic.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:21 pm

Spoiler: show

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:19 am

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:10 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:52 am I went to sleep last night with my girl being the leading wagon, now it's Elephant and Hyena. What happened?

Why is this of such immediate importance?

Cause I want to know what is going on. I hate being behind, can't do anything.

This is a softball interaction that goes nowhere.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:21 am

Benson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:07 am Drago has seemingly disappeared while several people are calling for his head. Never a good look.

I need him to post so I can re-evaluate that read. I'm still kinda holding on to his start that I liked.

it feels like you really had to force this post tbh

Raise your hand if you agree with 112 that Benson had to force this post.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:06 pm

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pm

Ok @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.

There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.

Thanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.

So Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.

For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.

But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.

I've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?

Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:07 pm Well that 112 read goes to shit now.

It’s clear that Dragomir’s opinion was bunk. Elephant (rightly) afforded Dragomir the opportunity to walk his view of 112 all the way back to I-don’t-have-vote-for-him-ville.

++++

112 all but disappeared down the stretch of Day 1, and the final vote ended up on one T. Liberal, a one-off.

I'm not going to waste words: 112 is a good candidate to be aligned with Dragomir, and I do not regret my Day 1 vote in the least.

Jack when you stop joking around please tell me where your head is at

Going to Iso Eve and LLD because Nova and Rej's slot have obvioulsy a low profile this game

But taking a break first

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112

got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?

the setup is closed, i know nothing more than the flip and my own role.
Claim is not allowed for roles and actions and he have to submit our vote this DP by PM to our host without sayinhg itt who is exactly from a list of 3 suspects we are allowed to pick up. I consider logic all 3 will be from out part of the game.

*our part ..not out part

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:48 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?

There was mention of a 3P role in the old thread. I don't recall specific numbers on how many scum.

Drago asked iaafr if he's 3rd part in one post, i don't remember the answer.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?

take care of him, that's important rn

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112

got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?

His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.

Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.

when in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?

take care of him, that's important rn

She's just asleep on me atm so no biggie.

awww <3

I think mafia still have scum chat so they will vote the same player and town will hardly make a mindmelt to lynch so i disagree with Mac .
Is not impossible but is too much randomness in this lynch

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:46 pm jack posted a scum's list, not sure why nobody's calling him on it

i am waiting clarifications tbh

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:58 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.

Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature

Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo

Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn

Maybe scum
Nanook

Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112

got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?

His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.

Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.

when in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)

Today. I barely remember Radish’s D1.

then you can quote and give me details.

on D1 i was more focused on the interaction between Radishes and Elephant and i came after reading it with town read of radishes and SR on Elephant.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:02 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 am Hallo Colin good chum! Welcome to fucktown.

Thanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.

Me bad? No. Never.

You seem cute though.

I wish to see content from Rej's slot/ [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]

Mafia games related what 'cute' means [mention]MacDougall[/mention] ?


[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] you may tyt with my request i will go to sleep anyway in short time.

Speculating about the existence of anothe thread is really useless this DP for all of us here because all we see game related is only this one. This is our dream we need to solve and we should avoid any distraction.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:51 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:16 pm @Michelle

612 and 615 should give you an idea of why I suspect Radishes.

This is not a real reason, this is "look at these posts I think they're bad." Point at actual specific things you thought were "dishonest."

612 is a Radish posts where he quotes a post of mine where I point out a specific thing that I think it dishonest it also provides context for MY post, 615, where I point out a specific thing that I think is dishonest.

Michelle: Tyt answering my question.
Jack: I already did right here.

i don't consider that an answer. You are avoiding my question. I don't really want to read Radishes with my question for you. I want to read you and see how you formed your oppinion. Because it's your alignament i need to solve while talking to you.
The fact you are so unaware about my reasons and you're beating around the bush is not good.

And good morning

started with the notification, i have a lot to read

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:06 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:26 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:17 am iaafr speculating about a mera he doesn't know a thing smh

self meta is trash. my MU profile has all my games, i had time to put links and alignaments until summer.

You as player can't read me and your read is so much based on meta?

hey

what are your reads

remember to abide by this gameday's rules

if youre listing scumreads you need to list 3+ without showing order between them

From the people in this thread
Evenstar may be scum because i suspected her previous day and she voted last (i think) for the counter wagon, no matter 112s AI she wanted to save her godfather if she is mafia
Nova is scummy and claimed scum. No need to say many words
LLD so complainy is nagl, i skimmed her Iso and saw her role playing as hydra of 4 (i doubt she is a real hydra)

so here i'm at. Ah and Rej's slot may be scum, but i have just 60% in that direction

Michelle uses "the godfather is valuable" to scumread me

do I caught you for wrong reasons?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:39 am if we think at gidfather's role as not being so important like Iaafr says then he was maybe bussed, and so we have to tinfoil later in the game his wagon. I would go for agenda-y players before this.

Based on Drago voting Mac i don't know if we can clear him and put him as lock town.

Maybe the godfather has a back up as green peek so Drago played bad on purpose.

I would take more notes too if i knew we cannot see the day 1 anymore, my notes are all until post 900 and after i gave up from lack of time.

I don't know if this is town openmindedness or TMI, but it's worth weighing into a Michelle read.

So your oppinion is Dragomir wasn't bussed and his wagon is pure?

and you on counter wagon are looking good? How should i take your vote after i considered you scum at Eod 1?

Your words let room for anything, and i want from you a ferm read on me not double meaning sentences.

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p

nah.

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:23 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

ummmm a theory that all the syndicate players in this game are scum and youre 3p because you played here before the other muers so youre like a half syndicate player

your idea is similar with Sprityo's chart reads based on who's off Drago's wagon.
Coincidences will not solve the game.

Let's think as host. Would you do this? To give scum role only to your homies and let all guests as townies? And the ones with connections with the site 3rd part roles?

Ftr idk if Nova counts as Syndicate player, also not Rej or Dragomir from what i know, I wish Mac to confirm if i am right.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:45 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:23 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p

why do you have this idea?

ummmm a theory that all the syndicate players in this game are scum and youre 3p because you played here before the other muers so youre like a half syndicate player

your idea is similar with Sprityo's chart reads based on who's off Drago's wagon.
Coincidences will not solve the game.

Let's think as host. Would you do this? To give scum role only to your homies and let all guests as townies? And the ones with connections with the site 3rd part roles?

Ftr idk if Nova counts as Syndicate player, also not Rej or Dragomir from what i know, I wish Mac to confirm if i am right.

@sprityo am i right with the last sentence?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:13 pm [10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112
No Vote: ColinIsCool, [Player #30 who im not gonna look up]

So this is MY color chart based on my two pools.

I'm my world, it looks like mafia favor the counter wagon as well as random 1 off votes.

i voted Hyena with Dom. Why is Dom green and me red?

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:09 am funny thing is i can vibe with like the majority of your colors except me and evenstar

you said i am villager and now you vibe with his reads including me red. How's that?

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:12 am also im pretty sure i considered evenstar spewed town by drago

and i think spiny creature's strongest townread was evenstar and i kind of want to trust that too

did you previoulsy play with Spiny creature?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:22 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p

nah.

This is exactly what a 3p would say.

nah

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:47 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:10 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:51 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:16 pm @Michelle

612 and 615 should give you an idea of why I suspect Radishes.

This is not a real reason, this is "look at these posts I think they're bad." Point at actual specific things you thought were "dishonest."

612 is a Radish posts where he quotes a post of mine where I point out a specific thing that I think it dishonest it also provides context for MY post, 615, where I point out a specific thing that I think is dishonest.

Michelle: Tyt answering my question.
Jack: I already did right here.

i don't consider that an answer. You are avoiding my question. I don't really want to read Radishes with my question for you. I want to read you and see how you formed your oppinion. Because it's your alignament i need to solve while talking to you.
The fact you are so unaware about my reasons and you're beating around the bush is not good.

I’m sorry you don’t really want to read the posts where I answered your questions directly.

do you mind to requote that post?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:56 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:55 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:22 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p

nah.

This is exactly what a 3p would say.

nah

She said it again!

You can't read me it's official. Let's see if I can red you

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:21 am @iaafr

Remind me why you think individual Syndicate players besides Epi look scummy?

Like you, Pawn, 112 and Radishes have all expressed that your suspicions mostly lie on Syndicate regulars.

I don’t have any Syndicate regulars in my scumpool. What am I missing?

the mirror?