The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:07 am Everyone >1000 posted in the GoC.

There was a goc?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:42 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:38 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:07 am Everyone >1000 posted in the GoC.
There was a goc?
we weren't invited.

Pretty rude to have a GoC and not invite the mafia team tbb

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:22 am sry if I was rude @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

No worries, wouldn't expect different

Arguments about what is and isn't anti town are, in fact, in and of themselves anti town

Nobody should have respect for my scum game its more often than not poor

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:17 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:16 am Nobody should have respect for my scum game its more often than not poor
Would it be insulting to say that’s why you’re not a strong town read?

It would be more confusing than anything

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:18 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:17 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:16 am Nobody should have respect for my scum game its more often than not poor
Would it be insulting to say that’s why you’re not a strong town read?
It would be more confusing than anything
If you’re mafia I think your play would meet the criteria you provided there.

That its poor...? I don't think I'd be playing poorly if I were mafia in this position so I'm not sure I really follow your point beyond "heh I'm gonna take a jab at nanook lol"

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:25 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am That its poor...? I don't think I'd be playing poorly if I were mafia in this position so I'm not sure I really follow your point beyond "heh I'm gonna take a jab at nanook lol"
Not poor in general, but poor if you’re mafia. You don’t have to agree. Not a terribly important point anyway.

I mean

Hard to say but I think if I were mafia I'd be pretty happy with my position tbh

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:13 am For much the same reasons I don't believe in things like TWTBW.
TWTBW?

Thanks

Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf

Basically means someone is being too obvious to actually be mafia, cause if they were mafia they wouldn't be as obvious

Its generally a dumb concept

Mac is Joseph

I'm not saying my Joseph impersonation is scary good but I will say if I heard it in my house I'd be under the bed shaking in terror

Also I still think bo is town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:07 am I'm not saying my Joseph impersonation is scary good but I will say if I heard it in my house I'd be under the bed shaking in terror
You lost me. What?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am Here's my best Joseph impression

Tsp has 50 posts d0 he's near lock mafier

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am Here's my best Joseph impression

Tsp has 50 posts d0 he's near lock mafier
Oh wow Joseph you know last time you made this read I didn't listen enough to it but this time I think I will, thanks for the tip buddy!

So maybe it isn't perfect but its still pretty solid tbh

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:53 pm well u seem to be taking stuff rly seriously from my pov and u seem to wanna die so it makes me think ur maf
I can't seem to change anything so I gave up

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:06 pm this sucks I'm getting more town reads by posting complete garbage I didn't even think about than when I tried to play serious
kza still obv town

Meh

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town
Al gets wagoned by a bunch of strong, loud townies -> BK is like "hmm I guess I'll ISO Al" -> "Yeah Al's ISO is really unimpressive. I guess I'll vote him". No real fierceness/conviction, and I don't get the "gotcha!" feeling of a town who thinks they've just nailed a mafia after reading an ISO.

-> Completely unrelated conversation about Michelle -> "Actually sorry I don't wanna vote Al after all, I'd just be sheeping someone else and I think this lobby is big enough that I can have my own reads."

This is a scum pattern. Note that Bo is voting Oddmerta (who coincidentally happens to be a big competing wagon to Al), not Michelle. So all that crap about not being convinced by me and Mac's towncases on Michelle doesn't follow logically. And even if he mixed up his own vote and thought he was voting Michelle, I think Michelle is obvious town who looks like an easy misexe and is a trap for mafia to fall into. So if he's voting a top townread of mine to save someone in my bottom POE I hate that too and think it's teammate indicative.

I understand your argument and remain unconvinced by it

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town
why

Honestly

I don't think he can manage this game as mafia

Also, like, his response to Alison just now was a+ stuff tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:22 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:20 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town
why
Honestly

I don't think he can manage this game as mafia
I've seen him do better as mafia than this. Not here but my first experience with him he was mafia and he didn't go belly up. I understand your reasoning but it can just be that he's more participatory in this game. Alison's points are too good for you to be ignoring them off bad meta though.

They're good for a player who thinks like Alison does, i don't think bo is that player

So, meh

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:22 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:20 am Also, like, his response to Alison just now was a+ stuff tbh
The hugging emoji? Why?

Zero desire to push back against a read that's in that moment being parroted as a strong one by mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:22 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:20 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town
why
Honestly

I don't think he can manage this game as mafia
I've seen him do better as mafia than this. Not here but my first experience with him he was mafia and he didn't go belly up. I understand your reasoning but it can just be that he's more participatory in this game. Alison's points are too good for you to be ignoring them off bad meta though.

To be clear I don't think he's a bad scum player i just don't think he's this scum player, if that makes sense

Also I literally just saw him win as mafia so my meta is reasonably good

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:27 am what happened in zelda mash?

I stomped mac

Maybe bo just exists jn my blind spot but he seems pretty townie to me and these arguments seem pretty silly

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:31 am Maybe bo just exists jn my blind spot but he seems pretty townie to me and these arguments seem pretty silly
I think irreverent and goofy slankers who give sarcastic or joking answers to being suspected are more likely to be in your blindspot!

Sometimes but

Bo hasn't made me laugh once this game and I still think he's town

He also isn't slanking

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:17 pm sup friends

i have read absolutely nothing. someone cliffs me?

You're town, Jay's town, sloon is town, bo is town don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise, mac is probably town

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:58 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:17 pm sup friends

i have read absolutely nothing. someone cliffs me?
You're town, Jay's town, sloon is town, bo is town don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise, mac is probably town
thank you oh great and fearsome one

If you want somewhere to start maybe look at bo

I wanna know if I'm the only one TRing him

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:13 pm Who's Hally?

New tutu

Its a good read and it says good things about Marmot but idk how much it applies here

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:49 pm what’s more likely?

1) my slot is a wolf slot. i am faking all my reads and happened to fake the same sort of read that tutuu also decided to fake

2) my slot is a village slot. i, like tutuu, am genuinely making reads. i unknowingly voiced the same sort of read she had because we normally agree when we’re villagers and both of us are viewing the game in good faith

i submit that it’s clearly option 2 and therefore i’m lock clear

Option 3: tutu had her reads in scum chat and hally picked up on them quickly

Option 4: hally did a quick search to find tutus reads and carry them on

You are probably town tho

Anyways @Hally how are you reading spf

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:54 pm or well, it’s true. but it was meant as a joke. i just like saying i’m lock clear

As a fellow lock clear I can relate to this

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:08 pm i didn’t expect to see 250 posts when i clicked on boknows’ iso

i don’t want to read 250 posts

Skim it plz

I desperately want to not be the only one townreading him

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:08 pm i didn’t expect to see 250 posts when i clicked on boknows’ iso

i don’t want to read 250 posts
Skim it plz

I desperately want to not be the only one townreading him
You're not even close to the only one town reading BoKnows

This is reassuring

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:08 pm i didn’t expect to see 250 posts when i clicked on boknows’ iso

i don’t want to read 250 posts
Skim it plz

I desperately want to not be the only one townreading him
good news bud

This is not

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:34 pm No vote yet from:

AL_sama
Dom
Strawhenge
I'll admit my dilemma: I have not gotten a town-read from the Marmot, and indeed lean scum on him still. However I feel stronger about AL_sama and TSP. If I vote for TSP, I potentially run us into a tie. If I vote for AL_sama, it's not likely enough that it'll gain momentum and surpass another vote leader.

So I either I vote with my reads and it either winds up a tie or doesn't do anything, or I vote with the bandwagon, which I'm loath to do.

I'll vote tsp with you

If I had a gun I'd shoot dom rn

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:49 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:48 pm I got nothing for Dom yet. Hope we get more content from him soon.
This game must be really tough to enter at this point. I really feel for him and Hally
Only if you're Maf

3500 posts is a lot for anyone

@tedxtr you pride yourself on slanker reads, yeah? Got an opinion on dom?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:53 am Would TSP hint at the multiball setup unprovoked on Day 0 if he was mafia with direct knowledge of the setup?

Maybe

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:05 am nook, what are your reads?

Mostly same as they have been, hally Joseph Jay sloonei Michelle bo town

Still masoning with spf afaik

If I believed in scumreads I'd be scumreasing tsp still. Probably kza too, not sure

If it's multiball I have to consider jay and sloonei are doing a goc 2019 revival but I don't wanna

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:07 am I could see mafia TSP fishing for anyone who appears to have TMI that the setup is multiball while maintaining plausibly deniability with the "it's a flavor thing" defense. Fishing for information he rightfully shouldn't have is a move I associate with scum TSP.

This is basically what I was thinking when I said maybe except much more eloquent and useful

If we're making host reads id probably bet on a smaller high power mafia team and 1 or 2 indies over multiball

But that's not a confident host read

Then again the flavor reads like multiball so idk

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:07 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

i have not forgotten about you

not enough info but dom looks pretty =rand

why was he a point of interest for you though?

I have some amount of respect for your ability to correctly read slankers

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:27 am I keep forgetting nanook is in this game at times tbh

Sounds like a personal problem

I have like 140 posts if you can't remember any its understandable cause this game is ridiculous but also that isn't my fault at this point

I have a pretty bad migraine so I'm gonna be awol tonight

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:32 pm Nanook & Marmot

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pmWhat'd I miss?
I'm confirmed town jay thinks you're mafia tsp thinks Jay is mafia

Thats the important bits

Cool cool, what do you think of Jay and myself? And also TSP?
Not reading until d3/4, idk, my mac impersonation says hes mafia

Which one?
Its in the order you asked

This exchange is as empty on this side as it was on Marmot's. Nanook gives Marmot a potentially juicy foothold for re-entry and then they both fumble around and say nothing and put no meaningful pressure on one another to produce real content. It fizzles out. Not that nanook is usually the type to hold someone's feet to the flames early in a game, but Marmot can do that from time to time.

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:25 pm Right now I really just want to set fire to Marmot.
I'm hearing set fire to the rain but its set fire to Marmot in my head now
Noted.

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:05 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am Not only am I mafia, but I am on all of the mafia teams.
So much power, uwu
Okay.

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:25 pm Its a good read and it says good things about Marmot but idk how much it applies here
I have to go figure out what this is referring to... I have no idea. Marmot is sort of a ubiquitous presence on the page where this post is found, but there isn't really one clearly definitive read for/about Marmot. But whatever Nanook is talking about, he calls it a good look for Marmot but he questions its applicability. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are you talking about in this post and why did it "say good things about Marmot"? Why didn't you know how much it applied there?

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:47 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:34 pm No vote yet from:

AL_sama
Dom
Strawhenge
I'll admit my dilemma: I have not gotten a town-read from the Marmot, and indeed lean scum on him still. However I feel stronger about AL_sama and TSP. If I vote for TSP, I potentially run us into a tie. If I vote for AL_sama, it's not likely enough that it'll gain momentum and surpass another vote leader.

So I either I vote with my reads and it either winds up a tie or doesn't do anything, or I vote with the bandwagon, which I'm loath to do.
I'll vote tsp with you
I do not know what exactly the votes looked like at this moment, but based on Strawhenge's post, it looks like Marmot is in the lead, TSP is second, and al_sama is third.
Reading this post in isolation, we get this scenario: Strawhenge presents three options; he can vote for one of Marmot, al_sama, or TSP. Nanook sees this and responds by volunteering to vote for TSP. He makes no mention of the other two. Neato.

Nanook basically disappeared for the remainder of the phase, with a limp attempt to elicit a read on Dom from Ted, which could be juicy. I wonder what motivated nanook to prompt ted out of the blue like that.

There is nothing here that would sway me to move my vote off of Nanook. I leave this ISO with more questions than I had coming in.

I thought him comparing Hally's entrance as a sub here to how she entered in bike was a good look.

I was wrong but I'm gonna chalk it up to lolmultiball for now

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:39 pm I have a pretty bad migraine so I'm gonna be awol tonight
Would you like some Chamomile tea?

Probably gonna have some in a bit tbh

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:35 pm I thought him comparing Hally's entrance as a sub here to how she entered in bike was a good look.

I was wrong but I'm gonna chalk it up to lolmultiball for now
I see. Why did you ask ted to weigh in on Dom near the deadline?
What did you think of Marmot's handling of you yesterday?

As I said to Ted, I have some amount of respect for his ability to read slankers. I wanted to see him do something else (no I don't remember why) and I figured that would accomplish it and also maybe give me something to work with on dom

I didn't think about marmots handling of me, it didn't stick out to me

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:35 pm I thought him comparing Hally's entrance as a sub here to how she entered in bike was a good look.

I was wrong but I'm gonna chalk it up to lolmultiball for now
I see. Why did you ask ted to weigh in on Dom near the deadline?
What did you think of Marmot's handling of you yesterday?
As I said to Ted, I have some amount of respect for his ability to read slankers. I wanted to see him do something else (no I don't remember why) and I figured that would accomplish it and also maybe give me something to work with on dom

I didn't think about marmots handling of me, it didn't stick out to me
Do you have any thoughts about how he handled you in hindsight?

Not particularly

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