The Syndicate

What the fuck is this.

Ok I guess I’m not gonna say much cause I don’t fully understand the rules of this but I’d like to keep playing.

I would like accolades for the drago kill though, please and thank you.

And also Nutella is like almost always town but apparently she’s not here

So this is some weird separated thread shit right? Seems unlikely half the game died with no flips lol

I killed scum, hbu?

Did rabbits ever actually vote for drago yesterday

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm So this is some weird separated thread shit right? Seems unlikely half the game died with no flips lol
I've played in games on here before that have utilised a separated thread mechanic. It's not usual but it would be my first guess. It's possible that we might be the dead or something too.

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. Possible this is like a face off of sorts where we don’t actually decide who dies. Idk lets just make the most of it I guess

Give us a list of 3+ then, just don’t differentiate

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:21 pm 112 is clear today as far as im concerned

i guess im allowed to post my townlist too because it doesnt hint at where im voting

1 scum in here max or i seppuku, this is the never lynch for at least 5 game days towncircle

112
Benson
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Long Con
MacDougall
nutella
Quin
Spiny Creature / boo
vanity.

probably town

DFaraday
Dom
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

was thinking of moving epignosis down

Exsqueeze me, I rallied the drago vote into happening

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:21 pm 112 is clear today as far as im concerned

i guess im allowed to post my townlist too because it doesnt hint at where im voting

1 scum in here max or i seppuku, this is the never lynch for at least 5 game days towncircle

112
Benson
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Long Con
MacDougall
nutella
Quin
Spiny Creature / boo
vanity.

probably town

DFaraday
Dom
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

was thinking of moving epignosis down
Exsqueeze me, I rallied the drago vote into happening
so many people were already hinting at drago being their most likely vote at eod

them consolidating really wasnt due to your influence

but i believe you believe it and i have been considering putting you in top tier anyhow

I mean I literally started the momentum there. I got Nutella to vote with me and it took off after that.

Tbf other people drove it home, but I got the ball rolling there.

Oh I agree that even is town btw, don’t think that’s what w/w interaction looks like very often.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:21 pm 112 is clear today as far as im concerned

i guess im allowed to post my townlist too because it doesnt hint at where im voting

1 scum in here max or i seppuku, this is the never lynch for at least 5 game days towncircle

112
Benson
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Long Con
MacDougall
nutella
Quin
Spiny Creature / boo
vanity.

probably town

DFaraday
Dom
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

was thinking of moving epignosis down
Exsqueeze me, I rallied the drago vote into happening
so many people were already hinting at drago being their most likely vote at eod

them consolidating really wasnt due to your influence

but i believe you believe it and i have been considering putting you in top tier anyhow
I mean I literally started the momentum there. I got Nutella to vote with me and it took off after that.
You asked nutella to vote either Dragomir or ThomasCloverleaf.

I'm getting to you. Don't worry.

Yeah, and they said maybe drago, I voted, and pushed Nutella to vote with me.

Anyways I’m off to work, marvel at my ability to solve the game in my absence.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:50 pm NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:43 am [VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine
There’s no context for this vote, so I can’t do anything with it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:39 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why the fuck is your vote still on me. I don't believe you have any reads of your own since you sheeped that for no reason and don't seem to have taken any stances since. Do you actually suspect me or do you just have zero original thpughts
I think you’re town but a bet is a bet
Garbage reason to vote someone. Anti-town. Screw the bet it's dumb and LLD doesn't deserve that kind of positive feedback rn.
I mean

If you wanna make the same bet on someone I’m game

I just want sheeple to follow my wisdom when I start paying attention
No, I don't. This bet thing is anti-town. Don't do it.
Are you gonna vote drago or Texas with me?
This shows a willingness to vote someone else instead of Dragomir.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
who's the obvious scum?
Drago and to a lesser extent Texas
yea drago feels hard to wagon

i said kill drago like 3 times yesterday and people dont follow me

but its easy to wagon michelle and TL

i normally dont use these kinds of reads but the contrast is really stark

back onto drago it is

[v]dragomir[/v]
It’s too bad we weren’t on at the same time maybe if we’d harmonized people would’ve listened

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:52 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
No low posters. (e.g. Rej, Nova, DFar, etc.) I want to see people voting on people who have been active.
Note for future: if hyena is scum, very likely a partner in the low posters.
Frankly like 1/5 of the game is low posters. And with a game this size there is almost a guarantee that one of them is.

I'd almost bet two low posters are with a scum Hyena. My only hesitation there is that he could be purposefully baiting for this as scum.
Idk if he’s scum or not but yeah if he is I’d say partners in the low posters.

But let’s focus on getting drago dead first.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:07 pm Alrighty guys I have to focus on work now.

Thank you so much for pushing drago with me, please finish the push and bring it home, I believe in you, etc. etc.
Even after reading all of this, I don’t have any idea why Nanook voted Dragomir.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm Wait I’m getting my way? Yippee!

There’s enthusiasm, but it looks like false enthusiasm.

++++

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME’s posts are teammate compatible. There’s an early vote followed by reasonless pushes for Dragomir’s lynch. That doesn’t mean NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME has to be Dragomir’s teammate, but as far as I’m concerned, he can remain a suspect and warrants further scrutiny.

So what you’re saying is that instead of going with Avery defensible Texas vote, as scum I opted to bus my partner instead, because lolwhynot.

You’re not gonna find detailed reasons from me for many reads tbh, I don’t believe in overexplaining.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:08 pm
So what you’re saying is that instead of going with Avery defensible Texas vote, as scum I opted to bus my partner instead, because lolwhynot.
No, what I said was, "NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME’s posts are teammate compatible. There’s an early vote followed by reasonless pushes for Dragomir’s lynch. That doesn’t mean NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME has to be Dragomir’s teammate, but as far as I’m concerned, he can remain a suspect and warrants further scrutiny."

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:08 pmYou’re not gonna find detailed reasons from me for many reads tbh, I don’t believe in overexplaining.
I wasn't looking for detailed reasons. I was looking for any reason.

It was the way he made then backed off that shitty joke, it didn’t feel like a town progression to me.

That isn’t gonna convince people though, a naked vote is easier to get support for than that ime, so better to vote then rally, otherwise it’s not hard for the case to be discredited.

I think I’ve posted from a laptop 3 times, get on my level

Apparently fights happened, I haven’t read them and probably won’t if we’re being honest, but I will say anyways that everyone should cool their jets and take a deep breath, extended yell fests are not super fun usually. This format and posting restrictions are frustrating but if they’re so inhibiting just follow my lead and only reply to pings and do a semi-random pop in or two. It’s very freeing and sometimes helps you see the game a bit better from the 10,000 foot perspective.

[mention]Evenstar[/mention] if I said you’re town, would you agree?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:28 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:59 am @Evenstar if I said you’re town, would you agree?
Nanook, I really want to scum read evenstar but no one else seems to agree. Why not?

Dunno about anyone else but I don’t want to because of their interaction with drago D1. I think that shitty joke probably gets dropped differently if they’re scum together, or they turn it into a big production.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:28 am

Your gif is broken.

It says “alright, it’s fuck o’clock”

You’re welcome

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:39 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:59 am Apparently fights happened, I haven’t read them and probably won’t if we’re being honest, but I will say anyways that everyone should cool their jets and take a deep breath, extended yell fests are not super fun usually. This format and posting restrictions are frustrating but if they’re so inhibiting just follow my lead and only reply to pings and do a semi-random pop in or two. It’s very freeing and sometimes helps you see the game a bit better from the 10,000 foot perspective.

@Evenstar if I said you’re town, would you agree?
Yes, but I'd say it's still too early for you to have that kind of hard opinion on me.

Now if you were calling Lexi town I'd agree, because I sussed Lexi multiple timea D1 and I'm still not dead

also I don't think scum lexi frustration-posts like this, she leans back and lets us tear each other apart with a few carefully selected jibes

If Lexi is genuinely frustrated, she’ll post it as either alignment I think?

I actually think you’re easier to TR (based off associations with drago) here than Lexi—we don’t know how much if any control scum had over the division, so you being alive after sussing her D1 isn’t really a point that works either way I think? Not without some assumptions about the setup I’m not really prepared to make at this point in time.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:13 pmGO NATS

FINALLY SOMETHING WE AGREE ON, GO NATS

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:36 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:28 am
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:39 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:59 am Apparently fights happened, I haven’t read them and probably won’t if we’re being honest, but I will say anyways that everyone should cool their jets and take a deep breath, extended yell fests are not super fun usually. This format and posting restrictions are frustrating but if they’re so inhibiting just follow my lead and only reply to pings and do a semi-random pop in or two. It’s very freeing and sometimes helps you see the game a bit better from the 10,000 foot perspective.

@Evenstar if I said you’re town, would you agree?
Yes, but I'd say it's still too early for you to have that kind of hard opinion on me.

Now if you were calling Lexi town I'd agree, because I sussed Lexi multiple timea D1 and I'm still not dead

also I don't think scum lexi frustration-posts like this, she leans back and lets us tear each other apart with a few carefully selected jibes
If Lexi is genuinely frustrated, she’ll post it as either alignment I think?

I actually think you’re easier to TR (based off associations with drago) here than Lexi—we don’t know how much if any control scum had over the division, so you being alive after sussing her D1 isn’t really a point that works either way I think? Not without some assumptions about the setup I’m not really prepared to make at this point in time.
I'm assuming that this is still a mafia game, IE mafia have some way to prevent people from talking. Maybe that's selecting people for the new layer, maybe it's kills, IDK, but it remains the case that Lexi and I are in yhe same layer despite my suspicion of her D1 and in Finals she straight up NK'd me even when I was looking horrible just because she thought I'd tunnel her the next day.

Maybe I'm getting horribly outplayed, but I wanna go easy on Lexi anyway for non-play-related reasons. She doesn't need resolving right now IMO.

I mean I’m not calling for her head, just saying that I don’t think the normal logic necessarily applies.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:46 am Also, talk to Pawn about whether you should be TRing me. He's definitely able to read me - he nailed me early as scum in both my qualifier game and my Wildcard game from specchat.

Why would I talk to pawn when a) I’m already TRing you, b) I don’t need more reasons to, c) I prefer to make my own reads when I feel like I have a good read to make.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:52 am
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:46 am Also, talk to Pawn about whether you should be TRing me. He's definitely able to read me - he nailed me early as scum in both my qualifier game and my Wildcard game from specchat.
Why would I talk to pawn when a) I’m already TRing you, b) I don’t need more reasons to, c) I prefer to make my own reads when I feel like I have a good read to make.
Because Pawn will tell you I have a hellbus meta and you probably shouldn't be confidently TRing me yet. I'm interested in you having a correct view of the game, not blowing sunshine up your ass.

I mean it’s not about bussing, it’s about the interaction between you and drago around his shitty joke that doesn’t read as w/w to me.

More specifically it’s the way he made the shitty joke, didn’t retract it until there was thread pushback beyond just you. If you were partners I’d think the joke would die quietly, die after you pushed back with some sort of apology, or be blown into a bigger thing. It’s a weird fit for w/w for him to make the joke then basically ignore you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm @Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.

Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.

#readslistsarescummy

Hi I’m nanook I kill scum and I’m here for the next 2-10 minutes, ama

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:52 pm Hi I’m nanook I kill scum and I’m here for the next 2-10 minutes, ama
I guess we're all waiting for Pawn to get his laptop.

Some random questions:

Thoughts on Nova?

Who are your remaining nulls?

Don't be specific or anything, but do you think you know how you're going to vote yet?

I have none, I’ve seen their name I think but none of their posts have stuck with me. I guess that’s slight scum points maybe, but tbh I’m not sure if the problem is on their end or mine.

Pretty much everyone outside of even and Nutella and Texas is close enough to null not to matter tbh. Maybe another name or two I’m forgetting but I’m not checking the playerlist.

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:12 pm Texas isn't in our group so you gotta start picking up scumreads from in here

I do agree on Texas tho

That’s so much work tho

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:52 pm {Epignosis, Nova, Radishes}
Take Radishes out, put in IIAF

Don't know about Nova, but also one of You/Pawn/Nanook is scum IMO, so....

You know I’m town, or should.

Also I’m mad I can’t collect on our bet with the restriction rules.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:44 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:42 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:52 pm {Epignosis, Nova, Radishes}
Take Radishes out, put in IIAF

Don't know about Nova, but also one of You/Pawn/Nanook is scum IMO, so....
You know I’m town, or should.

Also I’m mad I can’t collect on our bet with the restriction rules.
And I am clearly the towniest town who has ever towned. Not a muddy as hell ball of null at all, I swearsies. :v

I don’t push drago the way I did if he was my teammate.

Lexi knows this.

My hot take is that Epi is town

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:15 am i like how nook and epi havent even commented on this theory yet

It’s a silly theory imo but you do you, I’ve seen much worse theories lead to good conclusions

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:48 am does anybody wanna have a galaxy brain read contest?

Pawn is scum lying about his computer woes to cover for not playing his usual word heavy style.

Mic drop.

Wait do we have to actually believe these

Eh fuck it I guess I’ll stick with it then

Let’s embrace the big brain

That’s not the big brain read I’m on board with but ok lol

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:58 pm We've got several low posters, replacements catching up, Mac dealing with sick children, Nook refusing to engage, Pawn without a laptop, LLD flipping out...

Who's left who wants to play with me?

(Although I'll be in and out over the next few hours myself.)

I don’t think I’ve refused to engage for the most part, I just haven’t been doing it proactively? If you’ve got questions or whatever I’m about to take a much needed nap but I can answer before or after.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 pm But to reiterate my scum read bottom group is Dom, Nova, Quin, with my upper group as Rej/Colin, LLD, Sprit.

You, Epi, iaafr, Mac, ES, 112 as my null+ or higher groups. Michelle and Jack are my nulls.

Not sure if that’s compatible with post restrictions

112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:33 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:58 pm We've got several low posters, replacements catching up, Mac dealing with sick children, Nook refusing to engage, Pawn without a laptop, LLD flipping out...

Who's left who wants to play with me?

(Although I'll be in and out over the next few hours myself.)
I don’t think I’ve refused to engage for the most part, I just haven’t been doing it proactively? If you’ve got questions or whatever I’m about to take a much needed nap but I can answer before or after.
w/t interaction, calling it now

That’s productive

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