The Syndicate

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I am predisposed to sympathize with Nero's caution in that post, but I understand your point. I have not been viewing Nero's post so strongly and I am inclined to agree with Soneji's take on it. Nero could have just been saying that we should be careful about those things. He was not necessarily saying that they would happen, just that they're possibilities. A townie should be conscious of these possibilities.
That said my mind is by no means made up on this matter.

I think I have a way to convey why his comment struck me as unnatural. When you say that "a townie should be conscious of these possibilities", I don't necessarily disagree -- but I want to you to ask yourself where your mind is when you're pursuing the lynch of a suspect you genuinely have without objective confirmation of that player truly being a baddie (like an ID or something). Are you worried about other players bussing/saving your suspect (keep in mind that at this point, the tally largely favors your suspect being lynched), or are you worried about ensuring your work was in your town's best interests? I think a townie, in a natural state, sees a tally that favors his/her preferred lynch, will say to themselves something like "okay, here we go. I think we've done this correctly, and I hope it works out." Then after the lynch is finalized and the baddie role is confirmed, that townie is able to expand their mindset to encompass more complex dynamics -- like "who attempted to save my suspect? Who might have bussed my suspect?"

Nero brought that concern into the thread as a foregone conclusion well before any lynch had been finalized, like it was his desire to lock the tally on Epignosis and create an unfavorable circumstance for a wide breadth of possible voting activity after his post. This implies an extreme degree of confidence that Epignosis is going to flip cop -- I'd argue more confidence than even you have in that truth right now. Ask yourself, if in this Day 11, a larger wagon mounted on Epignosis, what your immediate concerns would be, and what you would post in this thread.

Your answer may differ from mine, I don't know.

Sloonei wrote:But why was Epi's badness a foregone conclusion to you?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:You are interpreting my statement to the extreme. I wanted to be careful and to think things through, not go wild and CFD-like again. I know that was our only time lynching a cop, but at the moment of my statement it would be stupid and dangerous to do so. It was just a warning.

After you answer Sloonei's question, please answer this one:

Why would it have been stupid or extreme? The Epi wagon eventually shifted to a Nero wagon, and then again to a Dom wagon. It wasn't quite a "CFD", but it was definitely a mass-shift. And Dom was a cop.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nero, you've opened this phase with eagerness on two fronts:

1. Let's lynch Elohcin.

2. Let's lynch chaindeath.

What do you think of Epignosis right now and where does he stand among your lynch priorities?

chaindeath wrote:Sloonie, chaindeath doesn't think that Nero could be presenting this case as a townie genuinely.

Sloonei wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nero, you've opened this phase with eagerness on two fronts:

1. Let's lynch Elohcin.

2. Let's lynch chaindeath.

What do you think of Epignosis right now and where does he stand among your lynch priorities?

This recent spreadsheet stuff has me intrigued, so I would prefer either Chaindeath or Elohcin, just so we can get more time to see if Epignosis really is bad. Maybe Soneji is indeed bad?

The people I am most sure of are Chaindeath and Elohcin. Im willing to give Epignosis more time. With that said though, I will vote for the player that the majority decides to lynch, providing it isn´t myself or one of my town reads(Sloonei and TH obv.)

I wont be around at EoD though, so that sucks.

you want to lynch somebody else to get a read on Epi while we're in a lylo? wut? Why are you lacking confidence about Epi? You voted for him yesterday, didn't you? What about that whole thing where he tried to trap you?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:My confidence that we're both right is strengthening. Turnip head HURRY.

Sloonei wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nero, you've opened this phase with eagerness on two fronts:

1. Let's lynch Elohcin.

2. Let's lynch chaindeath.

What do you think of Epignosis right now and where does he stand among your lynch priorities?

This recent spreadsheet stuff has me intrigued, so I would prefer either Chaindeath or Elohcin, just so we can get more time to see if Epignosis really is bad. Maybe Soneji is indeed bad?

The people I am most sure of are Chaindeath and Elohcin. Im willing to give Epignosis more time. With that said though, I will vote for the player that the majority decides to lynch, providing it isn´t myself or one of my town reads(Sloonei and TH obv.)

I wont be around at EoD though, so that sucks.

you want to lynch somebody else to get a read on Epi while we're in a lylo? wut? Why are you lacking confidence about Epi? You voted for him yesterday, didn't you? What about that whole thing where he tried to trap you?

Sloonei wrote:That is a question for everyone, not just the prisoner. We've got two cops left (police chief and beat cop). For the moment it's 5 vs 2, or 4 vs 2 vs 1 depending on how you want to treat the Prisoner. This is the biggest advantage we've had pretty much all game, but we're not out of the woods yet. 2 of the players remaining are still bad. I think we can safely dismiss the Prisoner and Turnip Head, and I can't speak for everyone else but I don't think I'm a cop either. So that leaves us 2 cops among the 4 of chaindeath, Elohcin, Nerolunar, and Soneji. 2 out of those 4 are bad. Which 2?

Sloonei wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Sloonei wrote:That is a question for everyone, not just the prisoner. We've got two cops left (police chief and beat cop). For the moment it's 5 vs 2, or 4 vs 2 vs 1 depending on how you want to treat the Prisoner. This is the biggest advantage we've had pretty much all game, but we're not out of the woods yet. 2 of the players remaining are still bad. I think we can safely dismiss the Prisoner and Turnip Head, and I can't speak for everyone else but I don't think I'm a cop either. So that leaves us 2 cops among the 4 of chaindeath, Elohcin, Nerolunar, and Soneji. 2 out of those 4 are bad. Which 2?

I think Elohcin and Chaindeath are cops.

So do I, but I'm having trouble being convinced that you're not a cop. So I'll ask this: What would you say has been your strategy in this game, and how have you used this to the benefit the town?

Quin wrote:I got to the roles and I am absolutely kicking myself. I thought my lover must have died at the beginning because in 9 days we never found eachother, shiiiit.

I'll catch up with everything after lunch.

Sloonei wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Quin wrote:I got to the roles and I am absolutely kicking myself. I thought my lover must have died at the beginning because in 9 days we never found eachother, shiiiit.

I'll catch up with everything after lunch.

Its unbelieveable. Good game though Thanks MP and Daisy for hosting. This has been the best game I have had here so far

I sucked though. Chaindeath was town after all

The most fitting scenario would have been you and chaindeath as the lovers.

agleaminranks wrote:This game was an insane and complicated hooplah. It was real fun getting the opportunity to play. I'm amazed at how detailed and how much foresight had to go into the game and how much of a treat it was to watch it all unfold. Three cheers for our spectacular hosts.