The Syndicate

Well this is trippy as hell.

And annoying since I focused a lot of my initial looks at Hyena and Long Con in terms of if their votes + timings implicated them or helped them. Especially Hyena with how erratic his were.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm Continuation: I do think there are likely scum on Drago, but the way EoD unfolded I think there was an attempt to save Drago too. I only focused on that; didn't have time to look at Drago votes for a potential busser.
The person who made me the most squishy faced was Long Con.

Honestly Hyena was the one that I wanted to give the most side eye outside of the obvious one in Nova, just considering the timing of his unvote to tie things up after iiafr did what he'd been hinting at.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm Continuation: I do think there are likely scum on Drago, but the way EoD unfolded I think there was an attempt to save Drago too. I only focused on that; didn't have time to look at Drago votes for a potential busser.
The person who made me the most squishy faced was Long Con.
Honestly Hyena was the one that I wanted to give the most side eye outside of the obvious one in Nova, just considering the timing of his unvote to tie things up after iiafr did what he'd been hinting at.

So something like (Nova, TSP, Long Con, Hyena) is where I'm at now.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:33 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm Continuation: I do think there are likely scum on Drago, but the way EoD unfolded I think there was an attempt to save Drago too. I only focused on that; didn't have time to look at Drago votes for a potential busser.
The person who made me the most squishy faced was Long Con.
Honestly Hyena was the one that I wanted to give the most side eye outside of the obvious one in Nova, just considering the timing of his unvote to tie things up after iiafr did what he'd been hinting at.
So something like (Nova, TSP, Long Con, Hyena) is where I'm at now.

And yes, I am aware 3 of these people aren't here. That's intentional.

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm isnt that a rulebreak if its intentional pawn

I don't believe so since it is multiple names and I do expect that at some point they'll come down to a lower level so the suspicion on them is meant to still be valid.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm I think my top three scum of the pople who are actually here would be... {Pawn Lelouch, Nova Seline, 112}

Pawn gave me bad info at dayend yesterday, Nova has been lurking and was on the counterwagon, 112 has partner equity with Drago and I still think they're acting super weird compared to WC1. All three are good candidates. I can't say which world I'm leaning towards re: 112 scum or town, but I would definitely like to hear more from everybody on this list today.

Gotta remember that I am stuck with my phone right now and had been for all of EOD. I had to go off of memory of the previous vote count.

Not exactly easy to scroll up and see the poll with how fast EOD was going if I wanted to keep up.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:53 pm @Pawn Lelouch Mind explaining why you told me Mac was responsible for "crusading" on the Epi wagon when he... really didn't do dick all except have a bout of paranoia?

Since he is the person who basically started the Epi wagon and was the person who got people to vote on it.

Since no one actually posted any real reasons to put their vote on him outside of vague paranoia that mimicked Mac's. They just followed onto him out of fearmongering about Epi's scum game from Mac.

So from my perspective Mac is by far the most prominent reason and person why Epi was a wagon. I stand by what I said.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:58 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:50 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm I think my top three scum of the pople who are actually here would be... {Pawn Lelouch, Nova Seline, 112}

Pawn gave me bad info at dayend yesterday, Nova has been lurking and was on the counterwagon, 112 has partner equity with Drago and I still think they're acting super weird compared to WC1. All three are good candidates. I can't say which world I'm leaning towards re: 112 scum or town, but I would definitely like to hear more from everybody on this list today.
Gotta remember that I am stuck with my phone right now and had been for all of EOD. I had to go off of memory of the previous vote count.

Not exactly easy to scroll up and see the poll with how fast EOD was going if I wanted to keep up.
Generally you're more hooked into the thread than that, Pawn. Distracted by something?

The fact that I've been arguing with UPS on the phone for the past 2 hours could be a good start?

Seriously fuck UPS. They are some of the most incompetent groups I have ever seen with how consistently they fuck up the smallest things.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:08 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:06 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:59 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:58 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:50 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm I think my top three scum of the pople who are actually here would be... {Pawn Lelouch, Nova Seline, 112}

Pawn gave me bad info at dayend yesterday, Nova has been lurking and was on the counterwagon, 112 has partner equity with Drago and I still think they're acting super weird compared to WC1. All three are good candidates. I can't say which world I'm leaning towards re: 112 scum or town, but I would definitely like to hear more from everybody on this list today.
Gotta remember that I am stuck with my phone right now and had been for all of EOD. I had to go off of memory of the previous vote count.

Not exactly easy to scroll up and see the poll with how fast EOD was going if I wanted to keep up.
Generally you're more hooked into the thread than that, Pawn. Distracted by something?
The fact that I've been arguing with UPS on the phone for the past 2 hours could be a good start?

Seriously fuck UPS. They are some of the most incompetent groups I have ever seen with how consistently they fuck up the smallest things.
lol agreed tbh
It's a bit better up here in canada I think but I still have known their tender mercies
That said, dayend was not two hours ago, but I'll give you a pass because you did actually produce a decent explanation

Oh for dayend? That's an easy one. My audition timeslot was 5:15 and I was nervous af since it's for Little Shop. I was very focused on having Razzle Dazzle down flat over anything else for like the hour before that.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:33 pm why we analyzing people who ain't here?

Likely useful long term so it's not a bad thing to do by any means. And you questioning this isn't exactly the best look considering how early into the day this is.

Let's see.

The movie had Di Caprio as Cobb (showrunner), Gordon-Levitt as Arthur (producer), Ellen Page as Ariadne (architecht/designer), Tom Hardy as Eames (forger), Ken Watanabe as Mr. Saito (Client), Dileep Rao as Yusef (Chemist). These are the 6 who can definitely be considered part of the team.
‐------
The Possibilities

Cillian Murphy as Robert Fischer (the target), Tom Berenger as Peter Browning (godfather to target), Pete Postelwaithe as Maurice Fischer (target's father), Michael Caine as Professor Miles (Cobb's father in law + Ariadne's mentor), Lukas Haas as Nash (former architect who betrayed the team)

Nonexistent:

Marian Cottillard as Mal Cobb
-----
So 6 guarantees. If we include the target that's 7. I don't see where a 8th fits in here?

So obviously fluff is very obviously something that shouldn't be relied on, but what I'm trying to figure out is where you got the exact number of 8 here. Walk me through thought process.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:23 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:17 pm Let's see.

The movie had Di Caprio as Cobb (showrunner), Gordon-Levitt as Arthur (producer), Ellen Page as Ariadne (architecht/designer), Tom Hardy as Eames (forger), Ken Watanabe as Mr. Saito (Client), Dileep Rao as Yusef (Chemist). These are the 6 who can definitely be considered part of the team.
‐------
The Possibilities

Cillian Murphy as Robert Fischer (the target), Tom Berenger as Peter Browning (godfather to target), Pete Postelwaithe as Maurice Fischer (target's father), Michael Caine as Professor Miles (Cobb's father in law + Ariadne's mentor), Lukas Haas as Nash (former architect who betrayed the team)

Nonexistent:

Marian Cottillard as Mal Cobb
-----
So 6 guarantees. If we include the target that's 7. I don't see where a 8th fits in here?

So obviously fluff is very obviously something that shouldn't be relied on, but what I'm trying to figure out is where you got the exact number of 8 here. Walk me through thought process.
30/4=7.5, err high because large setup
I didn't remember how many peeps there were in the movie, just that there were a bunch

8 is large for a unified scumteam though, and this game does seem to be going heavy on flavour, so... my question to you is "why doesn't Mal exist"? 6 mafia + Mal as an SK plus... I remember in the movie that they got the target to actively fight his own subconcious, they could be a second 3p?

Was talking about in the context of a united team. 3p/SK Mal absolutely can exist, she's just never in a united scum team.

Hm, I'd honestly lean more 3p than SK, since while she doesn't fit as a part of the target's subconscious and thus likely isn't considered straight town, since she's from Cobb she is explicitly against that group. Plus if I remember right she never really attacked the subconscious unless it benefitted her overall goal of getting at Cobb.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:15 pm @Pawn Lelouch Any thoughts regarding how to deal with the setup fuckery?

Well the easiest method is honestly fairly simple and has been mentioned to an extent already. There are 16 players here according to the list. Everyone exclude themselves.

Have everyone iso in groups of 3 and give thoughts on them. Once they get all the way through the 5 groups gun to the head on them. That way they likely will have more than 3 vote potentials and won't run afoul of the rules.

At this point the thread narrows focus based on those who are most popular and directs attention on them.

Try and gather more data as they get grilled for insights and info to narrow down further (and note any suspicious behavior from the questioners) to a top 3.

And while nothing can be said outright, it should be easy enough to see where people are personally looking for the final vote to go and for a rough coordination to occur.

Is this perfect? Hell no, but it's the best I can reasonably see done with the constraints placed on us.

And for groups do it alphabetically.

So like 112, Dom, Epi. Eva, iaafr, Jack. Etc

And with the leftover 16th in Sprit, just swap them out with your name in whatever group you fit in.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:34 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:29 pm And for groups do it alphabetically.

So like 112, Dom, Epi. Eva, iaafr, Jack. Etc

And with the leftover 16th in Sprit, just swap them out with your name in whatever group you fit in.
This works. I hate it deeply, but it works. And it's better than the near total lack of posts we're currently experiencing.

Same. It is way too cold and clinical for my liking but I have nothing better I could come up with.

Also can we still see the previous thread or were those just quotes Epi had saved? Since I tried searching from my phone and I couldn't find the old thread at all.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:36 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:34 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:29 pm And for groups do it alphabetically.

So like 112, Dom, Epi. Eva, iaafr, Jack. Etc

And with the leftover 16th in Sprit, just swap them out with your name in whatever group you fit in.
This works. I hate it deeply, but it works. And it's better than the near total lack of posts we're currently experiencing.
Same. It is way too cold and clinical for my liking but I have nothing better I could come up with.

Also can we still see the previous thread or were those just quotes Epi had saved? Since I tried searching from my phone and I couldn't find the old thread at all.

And yes, this sounds stupid but theoretically they could have kept the thread locked and gave the other group a new one as well.

I'm just really hoping we don't have to do everyone off of memory essentially.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:53 pm ... Wait, I have an idea.

A terrible, horrible, awful idea.

Can we rig a hydra game out of this?

...

I'm listening.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:56 pm Everybody votes for the worst hydra and picks their own target from among the members of rhe hydra that was "lynched"

And how pray tell would you pick these hydras? Since a method like alphabetical sure as hell isn't a good idea since a fair few of the hydras are mixed or outright scummy looking.

That would likely be predetermining the group of 3 very early on in a way that I am not at all comfortable with.

Hm. I wonder if mafia's objective is to make it all the way to the bottom level and then back up again successfully since this is a weird game.

The only issue is what happens if the main team sent down dies before reaching it but those shallower are still there.

Do they just move up a level or two or does the higher up player need to venture down as well? But hm, how does that play into game lengths then if that type of scenario is possible.

This speculation is probably pointless but at this point I'm curious and nothing better is happening.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:27 pm remember when i used one of my last posts last round to put drago in a list of five potential players i thought could be scum?

there's no world in which i'm wolfing, basically

Oh no, one of five players that can be scum in a 30 player game. Such majesty and towniness.

If you want to argue for being town there are a hell of a lot better avenues and arguments than that to attempt.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:55 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:46 pm @112 you are way out of your normal town range here. What's your dealio?
i don't think i am tbh- my town range is more of a spectrum
Oh yeah cool cool. I don't believe you.
ok, you got me

real answer is that i've been going through some stuff in real life and it's completely unfalsifiable

Hope the situation clears up soon and well.

<3

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:23 pm This is a game.

If they're gonnna fuck with us with "you're not allowed to catch up on a game and read old posts you missed"

then why not abuse their fucking system

I'm expecting they'll hit us with trying to break the spirit of the rules if we try that and tell us to knock it off.

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:24 pm oh man it just actually hit me that we can't see the d1?

or can we? I thought somebody said we could?

I asked if we could since I couldn't find it on my phone and was asking if Epi's stuff was the only evidence we had of the previous thread outside of our memories.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:25 pm i don't know how epi was accessing it so effortlessly

I presume he had the quotes from the thread at night. Not that many reasonable answers for that question.

(Note: possible implied shade from Dom that Epi had teammates pass him quotes?)

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:34 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:32 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:25 pm i don't know how epi was accessing it so effortlessly
I presume he had the quotes from the thread at night. Not that many reasonable answers for that question.

(Note: possible implied shade from Dom that Epi had teammates pass him quotes?)
You're assuming they have access to the old thread. Why?

No, I said had. The thread was locked, it was still visible. Only posting was restricted. Wouldn't be hard to ISO and grab quotes at night

What I was doing was assuming you were shading Epi for it with how you phrased your words.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:37 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:34 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:32 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:25 pm i don't know how epi was accessing it so effortlessly
I presume he had the quotes from the thread at night. Not that many reasonable answers for that question.

(Note: possible implied shade from Dom that Epi had teammates pass him quotes?)
You're assuming they have access to the old thread. Why?
No, I said had. The thread was locked, it was still visible. Only posting was restricted. Wouldn't be hard to ISO and grab quotes at night

What I was doing was assuming you were shading Epi for it with how you phrased your words.
I'm confused as to what shade I'd be throwing here.

My thought process of how your words lead your words potentially lead towards a conclusion is this.

Wondering how he had access so effortlessly. Wondering how he had access when we don't. Only those left behind have access. Town can't contact those left behind, while scum probably can. Epi is scum and getting info from teammates.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:02 am I'm just talking 'bout baseball. Don't mind me, folks.

Aw.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:06 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:45 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:37 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:34 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:32 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:25 pm i don't know how epi was accessing it so effortlessly
I presume he had the quotes from the thread at night. Not that many reasonable answers for that question.

(Note: possible implied shade from Dom that Epi had teammates pass him quotes?)
You're assuming they have access to the old thread. Why?
No, I said had. The thread was locked, it was still visible. Only posting was restricted. Wouldn't be hard to ISO and grab quotes at night

What I was doing was assuming you were shading Epi for it with how you phrased your words.
I'm confused as to what shade I'd be throwing here.
My thought process of how your words lead your words potentially lead towards a conclusion is this.

Wondering how he had access so effortlessly. Wondering how he had access when we don't. Only those left behind have access. Town can't contact those left behind, while scum probably can. Epi is scum and getting info from teammates.
..."left behind".

That's specific.
Why do you say it?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:59 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm Epi, your analysis of iaafr makes a lot of sense to me.
I appreciate that, but I'm torn. Do you draw an opinion one way or another?
I don't trust iaafr whatsoever.

...

Because I'm fairly certain we went down a level since we were the ones who lost access to the original thread. The fact that we lost it means that the others are likely all still posting there.

Hence, they were left behind on the first level while we went deeper. Not really that much to say there. It legitimately seems rather straightforward.

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 am pawn wheres your needle on me rn

I keep getting vibes you're the TMI bussy scum in this game, any way for me to rule that out?

Was town reading you before EOD. The 112 into unvote is swigging me out hard but you were solid enough before that and was telegraphed enough that you only got knocked down to null +.

At the very least you aren't being resolved today. There are far more scummy players that need to be addressed first (Nova, Quin, Dom, etc).

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 am pawn wheres your needle on me rn

I keep getting vibes you're the TMI bussy scum in this game, any way for me to rule that out?

Also I doubt you'll believe self meta for obvious reasons but I lean far more on the Beck side of the scale. I bus only when I have to and I'm not going to constantly call out a teammate as scummy and vote them up when there are other wagons available.

Especially when they are the godfather. It doesn't matter if I think they're being sleazy, I can work with that, I've certainly worked with worse. I'm not going to throw away that mechanical advantage for any level of credit Day 1.

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:26 am the main issue I have with pawn is a negative space one where I'd assume he has more takes on my actual takes but he seems cagey

also this whole dom push on me is obviously scummy and scum pawn would be aware of that and it feels like he's on the fence about that too

I've already called him as shading Epi though? So I've already been calling him out. My issue right now is seeing if he's lying/joking or is serious about some of his takes.

Since I don't generally derp clear but he's doing it so consistently, if obv scummily from my perspective. So it's this weird case of conflicting views.

And the rest of the takes has been due to general household chores taking up time from me doing major commenting. Laundry, dinner, arguing about UPS needing signatures to drop off a laptop charger cord without signatures since they deliver during class times. You know, the usual stuff that is just kinda more difficult than usual to post while doing.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:21 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:09 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:06 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:45 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:37 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:34 pm

You're assuming they have access to the old thread. Why?
No, I said had. The thread was locked, it was still visible. Only posting was restricted. Wouldn't be hard to ISO and grab quotes at night

What I was doing was assuming you were shading Epi for it with how you phrased your words.
I'm confused as to what shade I'd be throwing here.
My thought process of how your words lead your words potentially lead towards a conclusion is this.

Wondering how he had access so effortlessly. Wondering how he had access when we don't. Only those left behind have access. Town can't contact those left behind, while scum probably can. Epi is scum and getting info from teammates.
..."left behind".

That's specific.
Why do you say it?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:59 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm Epi, your analysis of iaafr makes a lot of sense to me.
I appreciate that, but I'm torn. Do you draw an opinion one way or another?
I don't trust iaafr whatsoever.
...

Because I'm fairly certain we went down a level since we were the ones who lost access to the original thread. The fact that we lost it means that the others are likely all still posting there.

Hence, they were left behind on the first level while we went deeper. Not really that much to say there. It legitimately seems rather straightforward.
Epignosis, what do you think of this one?

I don't know that they don't have their own thread, entirely new and entirely separate. You do. Why?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:12 am
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:16 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:11 pm hey it's a pet peeve when people attack me on misunderstandings

getting peeved by that and getting peeved by people in dynamics without any misunderstandings essentially attacking me apropos of nothing isn't a contradiction

epi doesn't even have a conclusion on me and I made it clear 3 posts ago I don't have time for meaty shit I'm just realtiming the bullshit I can respond meaningfully to on mobile which is mostly you making shit up about what I'm sayijg
I didn't make anything up.

You simply wrote unclearly and then called me illiterate. Instead of explaining the misunderstanding, you blew up.
Why?
... wolfy pickup in posting rate tbqh. Is Dom usually like this? Where was this player yesterday?
This player was trying to get their bearings in a big game where he missed the first 47 pages.[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

Because it's obvious? The literal first post of the thread says we submerged to a deeper level of dream. You can't skip levels of sleep -> dreams, both in Inception and the real world. The other thread was also a singular layer of sleep.

If we changed rules with a new layer, why would they change the thread with the same rules? Since it can be reasonably assumed that the player groups will meet up at some point, even if only sections rejoin.

So just having one thread for every level makes far more sense than making multiple every time a group splits.

@iaafr this is what I mean by derp clears from Dom.

Ugh, messed up the quotes.

Also I kind of have a angleshooty read on one of the left behind players. Should I say it or keep quiet?

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:50 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:40 am Also I kind of have a angleshooty read on one of the left behind players. Should I say it or keep quiet?
Im suppressing angleshoot reads personally but u do u

also not giving you cred for asking this because I know some players who like to towntell by talking about angly reads (knightsofneeee in particular)

Wasn't expecting credit since I doubt anyone else saw this for a start. And honestly I'm going to state it to get this out from banging around my head.

So look at those who are in the forum. It's only us/the GMs normally. There hasn't been the other players popping up at all. So we can safely assume that different areas obviously, since otherwise we would have seen the other player names popping up down there to show activity in their thread. We haven't.

Except for one name. Only TSP's name has popped up here as someone who isn't a GM or in here. And since I rather doubt he was the nightkill, there is something rather fishy going on with that player, though there are no specifics yetm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am I LOVE YOU ALL LIKE A FAMILY

Oh?

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am that reminds me, I should start logging on as invis, so i, deepest scum player who intends to endgame, cannot be angleshot

I thought we agreed I'd be the deepest scum player after I bus Dom since I had the Drago cred from bussing since Hour 1?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:37 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am I LOVE YOU ALL LIKE A FAMILY
Oh?
WHAT IS UP MY BRUTHA

Feeling pretty damn good after a Nats win for the Series. I take it you're the same?

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:37 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:35 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am that reminds me, I should start logging on as invis, so i, deepest scum player who intends to endgame, cannot be angleshot
I thought we agreed I'd be the deepest scum player after I bus Dom since I had the Drago cred from bussing since Hour 1?
youd be sus as hell in endgame dude it's always the sloppiest active wolf who endgames this is wolfing 101

Depends on how many tinfoil heavy players town has left alive past midgame imo. That's always a key factor on who should endgame.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:48 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:37 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am I LOVE YOU ALL LIKE A FAMILY
Oh?
WHAT IS UP MY BRUTHA
Feeling pretty damn good after a Nats win for the Series. I take it you're the same?
No I've just overloaded myself with CBT inspired dopamine to counteract my pure sorrow at not finding my passport and having to cancel my amazing vacation.

Def fair. Might be making some brownies tomorrow honestly if the weather is too bad to trick or treat and go to some of the parties.

And yeah, here's hoping you'll be able to find or replace the passport to be able to schedule for a new vacation soon.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:20 am THIS THREAD IS NOW A SEXY CHAT ROOM
Can I change my gimmick to posting only anime gifs and images?

-Angel

Go for it. The more anime we have in here the better.

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:33 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:32 am This is how I feel rn about this game.

-Lexi
can you do at least one ostensibly pro town thing before i start to think this is a scum psychological warfare demoralization campaign

Tbh the gifs are hyping me up more than anything else but I can see your viewpoint with the ways the text is pushing towards.

Hm, some Zetsubou Sensei would work well with the ideas you're pushing for imo.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:40 am Oh I see.

I understand.

You want me to be happy!

I have a gif for this too.

Spoiler: show
Just a reminder that she's been dead the whole time <3
-Nyx

Like, I approve. But still, monster. ;_;

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:46 am but that's okay

I'm sure this is a good game that doesn't make me want to Kermit.

Let's have hope.

-Nyx

Nah, despair is pretty great. In fact let's have some Broken Hope. (If only BB was here rn to hear this ;_;)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:33 am I've seen a few things directed my way; I may or may not have time this morning to get to responding to them before work.

I'm a bit taken aback no one is seeing EoD as I did. With under 10 mins to go there was a sudden push of votes that nearly prevented Drago (the Godfather) from being lynched. The three votes that essentially nearly prevented a scum being lynched were Nova, Eva, and TSP. I don't understand how there's not a scum in there.

Oh there absolutely is, possibly even 2, I am just fairly certain that TSP is the guaranteed one. My ideal lynches today are (Nova, Dom, and probably Quin + the Rej replacement) with an heavy emphasis on one half of this group)

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:16 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:50 am Anyway Epi's posts are performative, not informative and they're designed to seep into the nature of people's want for content.

It's IIoA. They say many words, but not much in the end.

More than that, they're doing the Bullets for Bullets tactic I outlined in my scum guide. It feels like the goal of the posts is to be unreadably long and make you skim and say generally "agreeable" things people can't exactly contest without strictly committing anywhere.
@Pawn Lelouch at some point i want your thoughts on this thought in particular

Well for starters I laugh at the idea that the posts were unreadably long and designed to skim when they barely break 2 paragraphs total for the longest ones.

Now the question here is if they actually fall under informative or not. And I know you're going to call me a fence sitter again but I'm conflicted for that aspect.

He has some genuinely good insights in some of the posts, but oftentimes he is posting one to two word answers on if he agree with a post or not without ever explaining why he thinks this. So leaves the thought process blank and let's people just think up a reason and let's our imagination do the work for him as to why he feels this way.

Some of this could absolutely be the clear laziness he felt in some of the later ones showing up, but it's honestly semi-consistent as I am reading through them all.

I town lean read him regardless of this analysis, but in regards to LLD's assertion I think one is flat out wrong and the other one is very much one that depends on perspective. Since it feels like very little to me but I am also a heavy wall poster when I am doing proper analysis so I have a self admitted bias on this front.

While the flat out wrong section is a small ding against LLD imo.

Sorry about the delay in writing the lld response and the MR one.

Got kinda distracted talking politics with a friend in texts for awhile and didn't really check the thread while I was doing so.

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:50 am imagine actually apologizing for not capitulating to rabbits endless impatience as if youre obligated to answer quickly

I don't like being boring and making people wait. Simple as that.

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